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barrett
09-03-2009, 10:36 AM
I'm posting this in Texans Talk because it's a two part story and he's starting from the bottom. Obviously Mr. McNair will be in the top half so it will be relevant later today.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-ownerrankingspartone09020&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

32- Oak (crazy Al)
31- Cincy (Cheap and lazy Mike Brown)
30- Chicago (Virginia McCaskey)
29- Det (William Ford)
28- Cle (Randy Lerner)
27- Stl (Chip Roosenbloom)
26- Arizona (Bill Bidwell)
25- Jax (Wayne Whiner)
24- Buf (Ralf HOF Wilson)
23- SF (Denise Debartalo)
22- NO (Tom Benson)
21- Tacks (Some guy named "Bud")
20- NYJ (Woody Johnson)
19- SD (Alex Spanos)
18- Min (Zygi Wilf)
17- Mia (Stephen Ross and the cast of "Friends")

Question is, where do you think Bob will end up? Top 10? Top 5?

Thorn
09-03-2009, 11:05 AM
I'll guess top 10.

eriadoc
09-03-2009, 11:12 AM
It depends on the criteria, I guess. If it's all about making money, then Bob will be top 5. If it's all about winning and/or football operations, then Bob's probably in the middle. I'm sure the list is about money, because Jerry Jones should be middle-to-bottom of a list that is about football operations. Any owner that interferes with football ops pretty well sucks, and the results bear out.

HoustonFrog
09-03-2009, 11:16 AM
It depends on the criteria, I guess. If it's all about making money, then Bob will be top 5. If it's all about winning and/or football operations, then Bob's probably in the middle. I'm sure the list is about money, because Jerry Jones should be middle-to-bottom of a list that is about football operations. Any owner that interferes with football ops pretty well sucks, and the results bear out.

Not exactly true. If it is about an owner playing GM than Jerry gets some knocked off but if it is about making money for the league, making money for the franchise and promoting and doing things for the league than he is Top 3.

barrett
09-03-2009, 11:18 AM
It could even be higher. Apparently the guy polls other owners and I feel like McNair is extremely respected amongst the owners and league office. Plus we're considered a model franchise for the squeeky clean NFL image.

eriadoc
09-03-2009, 11:50 AM
Not exactly true. If it is about an owner playing GM than Jerry gets some knocked off but if it is about making money for the league, making money for the franchise and promoting and doing things for the league than he is Top 3.

Which is why I said ...

I'm sure the list is about money, because Jerry Jones should be middle-to-bottom of a list that is about football operations.

HoustonFrog
09-03-2009, 12:16 PM
Which is why I said ...

Well I consider "football operations" to include more than just GM type work. I mean it is broad to me. But he and McNair should be up there.

McNair is 6th

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AugyqpQOeFyoRc8dOG7USMCr0op4?slug=ms-ownerrankingsparttwo090309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

6. Houston Texans – Bob McNair: Did I just rank a man whose team has never reached the playoffs in the top 20 percent of his profession? Yep, and I don’t feel remotely bad about it, because McNair does everything the right way, is in it for the long haul and will surely taste on-the-field success one of these years. (To see if I think 2009 is that year, tune in to The Gameface on Friday.) There’s nothing I don’t like about McNair’s approach – he’s good at making money, he spends it willingly, he’s not overly meddlesome and he always takes the league’s overall interests to heart. Even on the rare occasions when I’m critical, as with the franchise’s decision to draft Mario Williams(notes) rather than hometown hero Vince Young(notes) with the No. 1 overall in 2006, the man ends up looking correct in the end. Trust me, McNair’s a winner – it just hasn’t happened yet.

Jerry #2..#1 was Kraft

2. Dallas Cowboys – Jerry Jones (Stephen Jones): Think that uproar over the height of the massive video screens at Cowboys Stadium and their potential for deflecting punts is stressing out Jones? Hold on while I let out a Texas-sized guffaw. It doesn’t take a marketing genius (a term that happens to apply to Jerry and his eldest son, Stephen, the team’s executive vice president and stadium point man) to realize that any criticism about the facility’s construction plan are more than offset by the abundant publicity resulting from the controversy. After building the most impressive sports facility on the continent, the Joneses deserve to have a little fun in the sun – depending upon whether the roof is open or closed. Lampoon Jerry Jones all you want, and try to write off his three Super Bowl championships as the product of Jimmy Johnson’s greatness, and you’ll drown in a sea of cliché and superficiality. These are the facts about Jones: Over the past two decades no owner has been bolder (beginning with the out-of-the-blue hiring of Johnson in 1989); no owner has done more to move the league from its de facto communism of the pre-salary-cap era to the more entrepreneurial present; nobody has been as willing to put his wealth, reputation and vision on the line in the pursuit of winning. That doesn’t mean Jones will always do things the way you (or I) insist he should. I’d love to see him hire a Dimitroff-type executive and trust him to run the personnel operation, and I wish he hadn’t have bit on the Roy Williams trade. But if I were a Cowboys fan, I’d get down on my knees and thank the football gods for sending Jerry and his family to North Texas, and none of you will ever convince me otherwise. Among his many recent accomplishments: Jones, as chairman of the NFL Network, joined forces with Goodell to settle a long-running dispute with Comcast after successfully demonstrating that customers would cancel their cable service if denied access to the channel. Said one rival owner: “You’ve got to give it up for Jerry. The stadium’s spectacular. Four words: Big vision, big testicles.”

barrett
09-03-2009, 12:29 PM
I love it, McNair fly's as under the radar as the Texans. Only difference, he's got the respect. Basically saying "Bob's doing everything right... that's really all I know about him."


oh, and if you wanted to know the rest:

16. Denver Broncos – Pat Bowlen
15. Kansas City Chiefs – Clark Hunt
14. Atlanta Falcons – Arthur Blank
13. Seattle Seahawks – Paul Allen
12. Green Bay Packers – Green Bay Packers Inc. (Mark Murphy)
11. Philadelphia Eagles – Jeffrey Lurie
10. Baltimore Ravens – Steve Bisciotti
9. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Bryan, Joel and Ed Glazer
8. Washington Redskins – Dan Snyder
7. Indianapolis Colts – Jimmy Irsay
6. Houston Texans – Bob McNair
5. New York Giants – John Mara/Steve Tisch
4. Pittsburgh Steelers – Dan Rooney/Art Rooney II
3. Carolina Panthers – Jerry Richardson
2. Dallas Cowboys – Mister Burns
1. New England Patriots – Robert Kraft (Jonathan Kraft):

Texan_Bill
09-03-2009, 01:05 PM
Valuation:
The Texans are ranked 6th both in 2008 and 2009. Gurls were / are ranked 1.


Total Revenue generated:
1. Washington Redskins $ 345m
2. New England Patriots $ 302m
3. Dallas Cowboys $ 280m
4. Houston Texans $ 256m


Operating Income:
Heading into the 2008 season the Texans ranked 2nd in opertating income (43.9 mill). Heading into this season the Texans dropped to 10th (41.5).

Dallas ranked 10th in 2008 at 30.6 million and drastically fell to 29th (9.2) heading into 2009 - only ahead of Minnesota (8.2), Seattle (-2.4) and Oakland (-5.7).

Dan B.
09-03-2009, 02:47 PM
It depends on the criteria, I guess. If it's all about making money, then Bob will be top 5. If it's all about winning and/or football operations, then Bob's probably in the middle. I'm sure the list is about money, because Jerry Jones should be middle-to-bottom of a list that is about football operations. Any owner that interferes with football ops pretty well sucks, and the results bear out.

Yeah umm... Dan Snyder, Jerry Jones, and McNair in the top 10? Clearly money was the focus.

For my money I'd put Steelers #1 and GB #2. The Rooneys are a model for any owner in any sport. And GB's ownership model deserves huge respect.

OzzO
09-03-2009, 04:30 PM
out of the top 16, not sure about:

Jerrah and the boys - just get a real coach, should improve tremendously
Snyder and the skins - to throw all that money around and nothing to show, iffy.
Glazers and the bucs - meh - we'll see, kinda iffy - but has brought back the franchise
Bowlen and the broncs - tell recently, yeah - but now, not so sure.

If you didn't check the article, he was grading on attempt to answer a basic question: If you were a fan of this team, how would you feel about having this person in charge of the franchise? I’m also influenced by the impact these respective owners have upon the NFL as an entity, and I give high marks to those who get the most out of their brand and spend a significant share of the revenues they accrue attempting to enhance the product.

toronto
09-03-2009, 05:09 PM
I'm sorry, but as nuts as Al Davis is, The Fords have ruined the Detroit Lions and have no Super Bowl appearances EVER. 0-16. Not even Al accomplished those 'feats.'

My best friend, a diehard Lion fan, has told me he doesn't care anymore until the Fords are gone. He can't take it anymore. After 25 years, he's been beaten into submission, and like a lot of other Lion fans, was actually OK with 0-16, so it would cement the Fords' legacy.

ESAD2-14
09-03-2009, 05:26 PM
I am surprised to see that D. Snyder is as high up on that list as he is. I would have figured him more toward the bottom. I guess factoring in revenue and marketing helped boost him towards the top. If that list was based on football decisions he would be towards the bottom IMO.

It did seem like the author of that article was drinking some Jerry Juice though. I do not deny that JJ is a successful owner, and he does have 3 super-bowls to his name, but it seems like a lot of the accolades showered upon him at the #2 spot were based on his new stadium. Oh well pretty shiny stuff impresses some more then it does others.

WWJD
09-03-2009, 06:24 PM
[QUOTE=ESAD2-14;1240090]I am surprised to see that D. Snyder is as high up on that list as he is. I would have figured him more toward the bottom. I guess factoring in revenue and marketing helped boost him towards the top. If that list was based on football decisions he would be towards the bottom IMO.

It did seem like the author of that article was drinking some Jerry Juice though. I do not deny that JJ is a successful owner, and he does have 3 super-bowls to his name, but it seems like a lot of the accolades showered upon him at the #2 spot were based on his new stadium. Oh well pretty shiny stuff impresses some more then it does others.[/QUOTE

I disagree. Jerry has alot of power for a reason. He makes a ton of money for the NFL.

ESAD2-14
09-03-2009, 09:56 PM
I disagree. Jerry has alot of power for a reason. He makes a ton of money for the NFL.

You won't get an argument out of me on that, facts are facts and JJ brings in the cash. I was just saying that Michael Silver, the author of the article, seemed to lavish a lot of his praise on JJ because of the stadium. Silver seemed to get a little goo goo eyed with his description of JJ at #2.

I'm not taking a shot at the Cowboys, this time :heh: