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cuppacoffee
09-01-2009, 10:24 AM
Where is the payback for Farves crackback block.

Even the announcers mentioned it.

Softies all.


:coffee:

False Start
09-01-2009, 10:27 AM
Where is the payback for Farves crackback block.

Even the announcers mentioned it.

Softies all.


:coffee:

Gary Kubiak teaches his "kids" not to play that way..... :butterfly:

Seriously though, I was hoping there would be some kind of pay back.

DexmanC
09-01-2009, 10:31 AM
The ONE guy who would have retaliated got traded to the Chargers
on gameday.

V Man
09-01-2009, 10:52 AM
Where is the payback for Farves crackback block.


Same place that the payback for Jared Allen's shot on Schaub last year is. (nowhere to be found)

GP
09-01-2009, 10:55 AM
When Jared Allen pushed Owen Daniels out of bounds, and Owen tumbled a little bit and Jared was walking away, I wished Owen Daniels had got down on all fours to dive at Jared Allen's legs in a non-contact way....just to poke fun at him.

That would have drawn HUGE applause and cheering from the crowd.

Just a fake little dive at his legs, and then a pat on Allen's helmet.

cuppacoffee
09-01-2009, 11:07 AM
The ONE guy who would have retaliated got traded to the Chargers
on gameday.


Yeah, that worked out well. :thinking:

Replacing him really helped the run defense. :rolleyes:

The guy played last year (according to reports) with a sports hernia that went undetected by our crackercrack medical staff.


:coffee:

TEXANS84
09-01-2009, 11:13 AM
Duane Brown was our only enforcer last night.

DiehardChris
09-01-2009, 11:13 AM
Duane Brown might be that guy. He took a huge shot at Jared Allen on that play where one of the Vikings kicked Chester Pitts while he was down. It wasn't even Allen who did it, but Brown went after him anyway. Gotta love that.

b0ng
09-01-2009, 11:17 AM
I guess nobody saw Demeco attempt to break the dude favre threw to on the very next play.

EDIT: seriously, Ryans was pimp slapping Vikes players around last night.

Honoring Earl 34
09-01-2009, 11:22 AM
I wonder if Kubiak says some of the things he says with a wink and a nod cause Gibbs system is famous for being dirty . In other words he won't give them permission , he's waiting for someone to take charge .

Hooston Texan
09-01-2009, 11:32 AM
Same place that the payback for Jared Allen's shot on Schaub last year is. (nowhere to be found)

To be fair, we did take out Allen's shoulder later in the game last year. Allen whined about that in his pseudo-apology to Schaub.

As for the other post about TJ's supposedly-undetected sports hernia injury--did I miss something? Johnson had a groin issue last offseason that roughly coincided with his honeymoon. It limited him in the 2008 OTA's/camp but was (because of the timing) the subject of much humor around the net.

As for the thread topic, I'd love to have a monster hitter at safety that strikes fear into the hearts of opposing receivers. Barber seems to have the ability to be that guy, but I think he needs to shore up other parts of his game to be that player. That said, Ryans and McCain laid some nice licks out there yesterday.

drewmar74
09-01-2009, 11:34 AM
I guess nobody saw Demeco attempt to break the dude favre threw to on the very next play.

EDIT: seriously, Ryans was pimp slapping Vikes players around last night.

No, I saw it. Demeco hit that boy so hard it hurt me on my couch!

Mr. White
09-01-2009, 11:51 AM
I wonder if Kubiak says some of the things he says with a wink and a nod cause Gibbs system is famous for being dirty . In other words he won't give them permission , he's waiting for someone to take charge .

I think you're onto something.

The NFL isn't like the NHL used to be when every team had a Bob Probert or Marty McSorley.

The real enforcers are the coaches. When you see a guy take a shot at another guy's knees, chances are that a coach instructed him to do it.

By the same token, when you see guys not retaliate, then that's coached as well.

Double Barrel
09-01-2009, 12:00 PM
Kubiak's Kids play nice football. Enforcers are for mean teams.

eriadoc
09-01-2009, 12:31 PM
The defense definitely seemed to ratchet up the intensity a bit after the illegal block on Wilson. That made me happy. And as for enforcer status, Duane Brown just jumped up my list of favorite Texans for his retaliation against Ray Edwards. That was a bush league move by Edwards and ought to be fined by the league, and Brown jumped right in there to stick up for Chester. That penalty was 100% worth it.

J. Sean Wonton
09-01-2009, 01:18 PM
We have one. We just need to get him a job on both sides of the ball.

http://assets.houstontexans.com/assets/fanzone/08-CIN-Leach-1152_MW_0138.jpg

beerlover
09-01-2009, 01:23 PM
Cushing is that guy if he can just stay healthy :polevault:

RipTraxx
09-01-2009, 01:39 PM
Not sure if this is worth starting a new thread for. But was anyone else impressed as i was w/ Bryce McCain?

I figured Quinn was gonna be the sleeper DB. But I loved the way brice played.

Also. Deljuan Robinson is PRETTY good.

jppaul
09-01-2009, 01:44 PM
Seriously just get Vonta Leach a beer bottle. Jk. Duane Brown showed that he is the enforcer of the offense, loved his mean streak last night. DeMeco Ryans is the enforcer of the defense, flat out laying the wood.

Runner
09-01-2009, 01:46 PM
Puttin' on the foil!

Kimmy
09-01-2009, 01:57 PM
The block is being highlighted on Yahoo this morning. They've got video and calling it 'uncool' I want a little 'umph' in our play as well, not dirty, but 'you don't come in our house with that sh!t' attitude!

The story (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Brett-Favre-throws-a-dirty-block-at-Eugene-Wilso?urn=nfl,186324)

You Tube Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQCSYvHuoRE)

If you didn't see it for yourself on ESPN, take a look at this filthy little crackback block that Brett Favre(notes) threw at the knees of Texans safety Eugene Wilson(notes) in the third quarter of the Monday Night preseason game.

Yeah, he's like a little kid out there. Specifically, that little girl Esther in "Orphan."

Mike Tirico's right, that wasn't cool. It was dirty, is what it was, not to mention illegal. My kudos and thanks go to Tirico and Ron Jaworski for pointing it out and not using the kid gloves on the usually sacred Favre.

It's not the worst thing any of us have ever seen, but I cringe any time I see an NFL player do something that is both unnecessary and puts someone else in such danger. I know that it's a dangerous game, and physical plays have to be made, but this, in my view, doesn't fall into that category.

Favre didn't have to go that low. Favre didn't have to put Eugene Wilson's knees in jeopardy. Like Jaws said, that's a potential career-ender.

That said, though, even though I've made no secret of my disapproval of Favre's nonsense over the past couple of years, if this were someone else, I'd probably be way more upset about it. I'm not saying that it's okay, of course, but Favre's been a quarterback in the NFL for 83 years and I can't recall a single other incident of dirty play.

So I won't label him a dirty player. The man's history earns him the benefit of the doubt. Make no mistake, though, the play itself was dirty. Here's what the NFL rulebook says about the crackback block:

An offensive player who lines up more than two yards outside his own tackle or a player who, at the snap, is in a backfield position and subsequently takes a position more than two yards outside a tackle may not clip an opponent anywhere nor may he contact an opponent below the waist if the blocker is moving toward the ball and if contact is made within an area five yards on either side of the line. (crackback)
It was correctly called by the officials and resulted in a 15-yard penalty. Wilson limped off with a knee injury, the severity of which is unknown.

Malloy
09-01-2009, 02:03 PM
I want Leach at safety! :)

brakos82
09-01-2009, 02:07 PM
I want Leach at safety! :)
I want 22 Vonta Leaches. :kingkong:

Carr Bombed
09-01-2009, 02:25 PM
The ONE guy who would have retaliated got traded to the Chargers
on gameday.

Yeah, that worked out well. :thinking:

Replacing him really helped the run defense. :rolleyes:

The guy played last year (according to reports) with a sports hernia that went undetected by our crackercrack medical staff.


:coffee:

Where is all this "Travis Johnson is a enforcer" or has a "mean streak" stuff coming from? I heard this stuff in the trade thread.

When has Travis Johnson ever enforced ANYTHING on the field? The only time he's done anything remotely close to "enforcing" is when somebody put a hit ON HIM and he didn't do anything until he got into the locker room :rolleyes: Travis Johnson is not a enforcer and never has been.....stupid play does not equal "tough" play. Just, because Travis Johnson's fat ass comes running in well after the play is over and falls on somebody who's already down, that doesn't make him a "tough player", it makes him a dumbass who just cost his team a penalty.

Runner
09-01-2009, 02:46 PM
The ONE guy who would have retaliated got traded to the Chargers
on gameday.

Yeah, that worked out well. :thinking:

Replacing him really helped the run defense. :rolleyes:

The guy played last year (according to reports) with a sports hernia that went undetected by our crackercrack medical staff.


:coffee:

Where is all this "Travis Johnson is a enforcer" or has a "mean streak" stuff coming from? I heard this stuff in the trade thread.

When has Travis Johnson ever enforced ANYTHING on the field? The only time he's done anything remotely close to "enforcing" is when somebody put a hit ON HIM and he didn't do anything until he got into the locker room :rolleyes: Travis Johnson is not a enforcer and never has been.....stupid play does not equal "tough" play. Just, because Travis Johnson's fat ass comes running in well after the play is over and falls on somebody who's already down, that doesn't make him a "tough player", it makes him a dumbass who just cost his team a penalty.

If I remember right, he hurt someone and then taunted him when he was down. I don't think he intended to hurt him, and I don't think he knew the guy was hurt that bad when he was taunting. My memory is fuzzy so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but that is what is passing as "enforcer".$

Malloy
09-01-2009, 02:47 PM
Trent Green knocked himself out on TJs knee.

Carr Bombed
09-01-2009, 02:50 PM
If I remember right, he hurt someone and then taunted him when he was down. I don't think he intended to hurt him, and I don't think he knew the guy was hurt that bad when he was taunting. My memory is fuzzy so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but that is what is passing as "enforcer".$

TJ never hurt anybody........Trent Green hurt himself. Again, I don't know where this "TJ is a enforcer" crap is coming from, the guy has NEVER been a enforcer.

HOU-TEX
09-01-2009, 02:52 PM
I want 22 Vonta Leaches. :kingkong:

^^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Runner
09-01-2009, 02:59 PM
Trent Green knocked himself out on TJs knee.


So he's known as an enforcer (now) because he mocked somebody he didn't know was hurt (and was unconcious)? I knew it wasn't some shot he took intentionally.

Note that I'm not saying he is an enforcer, I'm just trying to determine where the perception comes from.

Apparently the Texans are pretty soft if that's their bad ass play in eight years.

Runner
09-01-2009, 03:01 PM
If I remember right, he hurt someone and then taunted him when he was down. I don't think he intended to hurt him, and I don't think he knew the guy was hurt that bad when he was taunting. My memory is fuzzy so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but that is what is passing as "enforcer".$

TJ never hurt anybody........Trent Green hurt himself. Again, I don't know where this "TJ is a enforcer" crap is coming from, the guy has NEVER been a enforcer.

You do realize I'm trying to come up with an answer to your question about why he's being called an enforcer, right. I'm not defending that perception.

badboy
09-01-2009, 03:05 PM
To pay back Favre (the guy who did the illegal block) our players had to get to Favre and that did not happen after illegal block. That HOF QB knew just what he was doing.

Hooston Texan
09-01-2009, 03:09 PM
If the definition of "enforcer" is someone who commits the dumbest personal fouls imaginable, then, yes, Travis Johnson was indeed our enforcer.

Carr Bombed
09-01-2009, 04:00 PM
You do realize I'm trying to come up with an answer to your question about why he's being called an enforcer, right. I'm not defending that perception.

Yeah, I know.

Texans_Chick
09-01-2009, 04:33 PM
Trent Green knocked himself out on TJs knee.

Favre might have enforced himself. Just because he didn't obviously brain himself on that play and get carted off doesn't mean that the hit didn't effect him any.

I mean, dude has all sorts of stuff wrong on him--cracked rib, whatever in his throwing arm--who knows what that hit did to him in his cumulative list of injuries/excuses? Hip replacement? Loose dentures? More brain damages that causes the inability to make up his own damn mind and kicks a fanbase to the curb?

Texan_Bill
09-01-2009, 04:43 PM
The Hanson Brothers were in town last year for an Aeros game. The Texans should've given them a look.

http://graneyandthepig.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/hansonbros.jpg

Malloy
09-01-2009, 05:14 PM
Favre might have enforced himself. Just because he didn't obviously brain himself on that play and get carted off doesn't mean that the hit didn't effect him any.

I mean, dude has all sorts of stuff wrong on him--cracked rib, whatever in his throwing arm--who knows what that hit did to him in his cumulative list of injuries/excuses? Hip replacement? Loose dentures? More brain damages that causes the inability to make up his own damn mind and kicks a fanbase to the curb?

I agree, not the smartest move in the book. I must admit that I laughed my BEEP off when Green knocked himself out after trying to waste TJ's knee, and if Favre had knocked himself out on Wilson I would have reacted in the exact same manner. Call it poetic justice, I'm a sucker for that stuff :)

Dapper
09-01-2009, 07:31 PM
To pay back Favre (the guy who did the illegal block) our players had to get to Favre and that did not happen after illegal block. That HOF QB knew just what he was doing.

Diles would have moved up my favorites list if he had jacked Farve up instead of patting him on the ass after the play was over. He saw the flag and could have gotten even money and much rep if he would have just rocked him into the turf!
STAND UP FOR YOUR TEAMMATES TEXANS!!:foottap:

TimeKiller
09-02-2009, 09:08 AM
What a coward. Wilson wasn't even looking, a 12 year old could've blown him up at that point. Going fetal at his knees while he wasn't looking. My lasting impression of Favre the Great.

Texan_Bill
09-02-2009, 09:42 AM
Favre = Trent Green??

Ryan
09-02-2009, 01:13 PM
I think Cushing can be this guy once he gets on the field.

badboy
09-02-2009, 01:22 PM
Diles would have moved up my favorites list if he had jacked Farve up instead of patting him on the ass after the play was over. He saw the flag and could have gotten even money and much rep if he would have just rocked him into the turf!
STAND UP FOR YOUR TEAMMATES TEXANS!!:foottap:Diles should not do anything to hurt his playing time & a retaliatory hit might have got coach mad. A player with nothing to lose such as Mario, Ryans, etc should have walked nonchalantly up to Favre and punched him in the gut.

dalemurphy
09-02-2009, 01:29 PM
Diles should not do anything to hurt his playing time & a retaliatory hit might have got coach mad. A player with nothing to lose such as Mario, Ryans, etc should have walked nonchalantly up to Favre and punched him in the gut.

Believe me, I wanted someone to retaliate after that play. However, I doubt many of the players knew precisely what happened on the play. And, for good or bad, this organization's value system doesn't encourage that kind of attitude or behavior.... I'm sure everyone did appreciate how Demeco handled it though- planting the RB on his back the very next play.

badboy
09-02-2009, 01:39 PM
Believe me, I wanted someone to retaliate after that play. However, I doubt many of the players knew precisely what happened on the play. And, for good or bad, this organization's value system doesn't encourage that kind of attitude or behavior.... I'm sure everyone did appreciate how Demeco handled it though- planting the RB on his back the very next play.I agree but Favre will gladly let his RB take the repercussions of his stupid behavior. I am pretty radical about this. Unless a penalty will cost the game, some body better go after Favre. You back up your buddies, esta todo! Ask Nolan Ryan who was known to hit a batter or two. Most players did not know about the hit, but a thinggy called a huddle gets the word passed pretty damn quick. Brett should have been spinning like a top looking for who was going to lay his butt out.

Now, I done got angry all over again!

dalemurphy
09-02-2009, 01:52 PM
I agree but Favre will gladly let his RB take the repercussions of his stupid behavior. I am pretty radical about this. Unless a penalty will cost the game, some body better go after Favre. You back up your buddies, esta todo! Ask Nolan Ryan who was known to hit a batter or two. Most players did not know about the hit, but a thinggy called a huddle gets the word passed pretty damn quick. Brett should have been spinning like a top looking for who was going to lay his butt out.

Now, I done got angry all over again!


At the game, Barrett was making fun of me because I was yelling vigorously for someone to hit him hard and late but I was using expletives like "darn" and "gosh" because we had some kids in our section. I suppose the joke is that I'm teaching kids revenge but I don't want them to say the wrong word. The reality is that I wanted revenge on that SOB but I didn't want to get thrown out of the stadium or have to deal with an irrate parent.

CloakNNNdagger
09-02-2009, 02:16 PM
This is what can happen with some teams, if their player is kicked. I remember watching this one. VIDEO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM-5qbFBXEc)