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IBleedTexans
08-31-2009, 08:18 PM
Just happened on a bootleg run by matt . Hope it's nothing serious!!!!

Porky
08-31-2009, 09:00 PM
Matt Schaubalier hurts his ankle running out of bounds? No way. Tell me it ain't so.

gtexan02
08-31-2009, 09:05 PM
Someone needs to tell him that the key to staying healthy is a nice pair of mittens and the fetal position

Hervoyel
08-31-2009, 09:21 PM
The man injures himself running away from somebody.

He is Chris Chandler reborn. I love this guys game and I am impressed with his desire to compete and play but we need a QB. Matt is a placeholder who can't stay healthy.

This is going to be a long and painful season.

DexmanC
08-31-2009, 09:45 PM
We need a quarterback with David Carr's durability, and Matt Schaub's
non-suckiness. Draft 2010

IBleedTexans
08-31-2009, 10:23 PM
We need a quarterback with David Carr's durability, and Matt Schaub's
non-suckiness. Draft 2010

I think you guys are going to far he probaly got a minor tweek but as far as his toughness I think he proved alot tonight . Staying in against that Vikings defense says alot about his passion for the game period . I'm tired of everyone ragging on matt he's a hell of a player and when he plays well every one jumps on the bandwagon

Runner
08-31-2009, 10:26 PM
I think you guys are going to far he probaly got a minor tweek but as far as his toughness I think he proved alot tonight . Staying in against that Vikings defense says alot about his passion for the game period . I'm tired of everyone ragging on matt he's a hell of a player and when he plays well every one jumps on the bandwagon

I think it is fair to say that he is a good player when healthy and has a tendency to miss games because of injury. Since there was no "dirty hit" excuse on this injury, I think that concern over his durability is warranted. This appears minor, but is it a portent of things to come?

Spike
08-31-2009, 10:43 PM
If Matt misses any of the regular season due to this injury, the sky will officially be falling.

Had it been a regular season game, I think he would have played on the ankle. He looked pretty good in that last series taking us down the field. It was the pre-season, he ended the night well with two positive possessions, there was no reason to put him back in the game.

DexmanC
08-31-2009, 11:25 PM
This appears minor, but is it a portent of things to come?

Umm... Using $800 words here?

I think the word "sign" would go well with us common folk. I ain't got no
degree!

:sarcasm:

Marcus
08-31-2009, 11:26 PM
Well OK, he limped off the field from turning his ankle. But I guess it wasn't noticed that he also limped back on, and took the team downfield ??

I guess my biggest test this season will be to try to avoid the negative nellies.

I'll fail it unmiserably.:tease:

stingray
09-01-2009, 12:06 AM
This appears minor, but is it a portent of things to come?

Umm... Using $800 words here?

I think the word "sign" would go well with us common folk. I ain't got no
degree!

:sarcasm:

So that is what it means? I thought that's how rednecks pronounced "important".

imatexan
09-01-2009, 12:16 AM
The man injures himself running away from somebody.

He is Chris Chandler reborn. I love this guys game and I am impressed with his desire to compete and play but we need a QB. Matt is a placeholder who can't stay healthy.

This is going to be a long and painful season.

Come on Herv, you seem to be really doom and gloom.
I understand you have your reasons but lets wait for what the Texans show us during the first few games of the regular season!
:fans:

MEGA SWATT
09-01-2009, 12:45 AM
We should nickname him saltine, a little twist and all that's left is crumbs.

Runner
09-01-2009, 07:23 AM
This appears minor, but is it a portent of things to come?

Umm... Using $800 words here?

I think the word "sign" would go well with us common folk. I ain't got no
degree!

:sarcasm:

Portent is only worth about $125. While "sign" is a synonym, it does not carry the connotations of evil and calamity that portent does. Portent was therefore the more efficient and descriptive word choice.

Warning or omen may have been good options, although augury would have been even less clear than portent.

Mr. White
09-01-2009, 07:34 AM
Jaws was wrong. It's not "if" Matt Schaub.

It's "when" Matt Schaub.

blitz90
09-01-2009, 08:26 AM
Nothing to worry about sportsfans, just an ankle sprain. He'll be ready to roll for the Jets.

HoustonFrog
09-01-2009, 08:29 AM
He said the rubber out of bounds caught his foot and he tweaked the ankle. Doesn't sound serious but also doesn't make you feel good when part of the sidelines is hurting you.

Kaiser Toro
09-01-2009, 08:34 AM
Every ding Schaub has this year will necessitate the sky falling crowd to come out of the woodwork with the torches, pitchforks and AK-47s.

Silver Oak
09-01-2009, 08:37 AM
I thought the guy diving at his feet caught the back of his leg, but my angle was skewed.

Silver Oak
09-01-2009, 08:38 AM
Every ding Schaub has this year will necessitate the sky falling crowd to come out of the woodwork with the torches, pitchforks and AK-47s.

and I don't get it. other NFL qb's lost time the past two years and there isn't the same talk of fragility.

I guess I expect more of our fans to not listen to the reporters copy and paste stories, than to fall in line with this crap.

Kaiser Toro
09-01-2009, 08:44 AM
and I don't get it. other NFL qb's lost time the past two years and there isn't the same talk of fragility.

I guess I expect more of our fans to not listen to the reporters copy and paste stories, than to fall in line with this crap.

I was pissed while watching it unfold that the staff did not take him out just for precaution, as I have always felt that Schaub once dinged tries to go back out and either hurts himself more, or the team. As fate would have it, however ugly as it was, he led that team down the field for a red zone TD. Just as Ryans was starting to take over the game on the D side of the field, it was nice to see the titular leader of the Offense sack it up and get the result. For the first time in a long time I saw two players providing directional inspiration, for their respective units.

HoustonFrog
09-01-2009, 08:47 AM
I thought the guy diving at his feet caught the back of his leg, but my angle was skewed.

No, he missed..according to Schaub in the paper, the turf or rubber just caught his foot.

Hardcore Texan
09-01-2009, 08:49 AM
I think it is fair to say that he is a good player when healthy and has a tendency to miss games because of injury. Since there was no "dirty hit" excuse on this injury, I think that concern over his durability is warranted. This appears minor, but is it a portent of things to come?

Durability is a concern no matter how we slice it, but to say last year's injuries weren't cheap shots is disingenuous, Allen was freakin' fined for them, they WERE cheap and dirty.

jlam
09-01-2009, 09:00 AM
Durability is a concern no matter how we slice it, but to say last year's injuries weren't cheap shots is disingenuous, Allen was freakin' fined for them, they WERE cheap and dirty.

Just a thought from an outside point of view since I was thinking about it last night while watching the game, but after seeing the replays of the low hits on Schaub from Allen, I thought the first one was pretty legitimately unavoidable as he appeared to have really lost his balance and was stumbling forward and downward towards Schaub. I couldn't tell if he was pushed or if he was just tripping over himself from trying too hard to get there, but it didn't look dirty to me.

The second one looked dirty and certainly avoidable, and I'd be pissed about it if it were my team's QB. I can't help but wonder, though, that if the second hit hadn't taken place if the league would have fined him for the first one. I kind of doubt they would have.

eriadoc
09-01-2009, 09:09 AM
From the NFL.com Game Center:

What we learned ...

Matt Schaub is still fragile: Schaub has been trying to shake the injury bug since being named the Texans' starting QB two seasons ago -- he has missed five games in each of the last two seasons -- but sprained his left ankle on a scramble in the second quarter. The good news for the Texans is Schaub kept playing on the injured wheel and managed to lead the Texans to a touchdown and field goal before the half. Schaub finished 10 of 14 for 108 yards and an interception.

Porky
09-01-2009, 09:13 AM
Make all the excuses you guys want, but Matt Schaubalier is the reincarnation of Chris Chandalier. Say what you want about Favre, but the guy has played in every game since being a starter. What, he's never run out of bounds or had a dirty hit? Yet, he has been there play after play, week after week, year after year. How about Paymeaton Manning. How many games has he missed? Until last year, Tom Brady was durable as hell. Going back, look at guys like John Elway and Joe Montana. They rarely missed starts. Sure, these guys all generally had great lines, but all of them took hits. All of them had to scramble out of bounds. All of them got sacked or took late hits. It goes with the territory.

Let's face it guys, Schaub is made of glass. It's like going to the museum, don't touch, look only. Maybe if we put a sign on him - you break it, you buy it. :bender:

Texan_Bill
09-01-2009, 09:21 AM
Make all the excuses you guys want, but Matt Schaubalier is the reincarnation of Chris Chandalier. Say what you want about Favre, but the guy has played in every game since being a starter. What, he's never run out of bounds or had a dirty hit? Yet, he has been there play after play, week after week, year after year. How about Paymeaton Manning. How many games has he missed? Until last year, Tom Brady was durable as hell. Going back, look at guys like John Elway and Joe Montana. They rarely missed starts. Sure, these guys all generally had great lines, but all of them took hits. All of them had to scramble out of bounds. All of them got sacked or took late hits. It goes with the territory.

Let's face it guys, Schaub is made of glass. It's like going to the museum, don't touch, look only. Maybe if we put a sign on him - you break it, you buy it. :bender:

That's Crystal Chandelier to you....

Seriously though, I'm not quite ready to pin that on Schaub but it's getting close. I'm not going to freak out over every little ding he gets but he really needs to show some toughness. The guys you mentioned are/were some tough hombres not to mention watching Dan Pastorini as a kid.

Goatcheese
09-01-2009, 09:30 AM
If he misses 5 games this season I may start calling him Matty ice pack. For now, it's a minor injury that he played through for two drives after it happened. Not really something I'm worrying about.

:tiphat:

HOU-TEX
09-01-2009, 09:52 AM
If he misses 5 games this season I may start calling him Matty ice pack. For now, it's a minor injury that he played through for two drives after it happened. Not really something I'm worrying about.

:tiphat:

His injury issues are a bit disconcerting, but that drive with :27 left in the half was not. Props to OD too.

Thorn
09-01-2009, 10:01 AM
While he does play well, when healthy, I have to admit I'm starting to lose faith.

Porky
09-01-2009, 10:44 AM
I wonder if Minn would take that 5th we just acquired from SD to get Sage back? :gun:

GuerillaBlack
09-01-2009, 10:58 AM
His injury issues are a bit disconcerning, but that drive with :27 left in the half was not. Props to OD too.

Yep. He played through it. Matt has definitely shown toughness. I don't know why people say he doesn't. He always tries to play through the injury. He'll be fine.

BigBull17
09-01-2009, 11:02 AM
Yep. He played through it. Matt has definitely shown toughness. I don't know why people say he doesn't. He always tries to play through the injury. He'll be fine.

And he would have stayed in but its a pre season game. Precautionary.

HOU-TEX
09-01-2009, 11:21 AM
Yep. He played through it. Matt has definitely shown toughness. I don't know why people say he doesn't. He always tries to play through the injury. He'll be fine.

Sure, he's tough (as any football player should be), but what does that have to do with his body's ability to remain injury free?

DocBar
09-01-2009, 11:24 AM
Maybe Schaub has never HAD to play through injury before, so he isn't comfortable with it and can't distinguish between pain and injury. Last night could've helped in that area. Yeah, the ankle hurt, but they had so damn much tape on it, he wasn't making it worse. I dunno. Maybe I'm reaching here.

Runner
09-01-2009, 11:28 AM
Yep. He played through it. Matt has definitely shown toughness. I don't know why people say he doesn't. He always tries to play through the injury. He'll be fine.

And he would have stayed in but its a pre season game. Precautionary.

Speaking for myself, I make a distinction between toughness and durability. Having the mental fortitude to play through pain and injury is a good trait. It us also separate from not getting injured in the first place.

ChampionTexan
09-01-2009, 11:55 AM
Does anybody remember Tom Brady being in a boot the week before the Super Bowl vs. the Giants? Does anybody remember Tom Brady having a sore shoulder after the last New England preseason game.

Kyle Orton has a cut finger, Matt Cassell has a sprained knee, Brett Favre has cracked ribs (maybe) (kind of) (oh, okay - probably he doesn't).

If you expect your NFL QB not to be dinged, then you can exclude virtually everybody who ever played (including Favre a number of times when he was in GB).

QB's (and all NFL players) get dinged! Yeah, I wish it wouldn't have been without being hit, but turning an ankle while running isn't exactly an injury that's never happened to NFL level players before - particularly when, as it appears in this case - it doesn't cost playing time.

Schaub goes into this season needing to demonstrate he can be relied upon to start 16 games a season. Nothing has caused me to believe more or less than I did 24 hours ago that he'll do that.

Hooston Texan
09-01-2009, 12:39 PM
Maybe Schaub has never HAD to play through injury before, so he isn't comfortable with it and can't distinguish between pain and injury. Last night could've helped in that area. Yeah, the ankle hurt, but they had so damn much tape on it, he wasn't making it worse. I dunno. Maybe I'm reaching here.

According to Kubiak, Schaub wanted to play in the Indy game and the second half at Minnesota last year, but Kubes said no. In the Minnesota game, Schaub should have left after Allen's second knee-shot (the really egregious one), but he played the entire half. He was clearly affected by the injury, and it hurt his play.

At Virginia, Schaub separated his throwing shoulder in the first game of his senior year (not the same shoulder he injured in 2007). He missed two games after that. The shoulder clearly bothered him for most of the rest of the season, but he didn't miss a snap once he returned. He played well, but not nearly as well as he did during his break-out junior season. So, yes, the guy has had to play hurt before.

The only way he's going to quiet the "can he stay healthy" doubters--which includes pretty much everyone at this point--is to stay healthy. My concern is that his eagerness to prove that could have resulted in a more serious injury last night.

hollywood_texan
09-01-2009, 01:00 PM
Nothing to worry about sportsfans, just an ankle sprain. He'll be ready to roll for the Jets.

Agreed.

There is a durability issue with Schaub, but these ankle sprains happen from time to time to a lot of players. My point is, I wouldn't connect this injury to his other injury concerns.

Thorn
09-01-2009, 01:09 PM
Agreed.

There is a durability issue with Schaub, but these ankle sprains happen from time to time to a lot of players. My point is, I wouldn't connect this injury to his other injury concerns.

Folks who live in tornado alley tend to get nervous when storm clouds darken. Same principle here, so itís useless to tell everyone to calm down when they see Schaub limping.

BigBull17
09-01-2009, 01:10 PM
Speaking for myself, I make a distinction between toughness and durability. Having the mental fortitude to play through pain and injury is a good trait. It us also separate from not getting injured in the first place.

He DID play through it. The coach pulled him because it was pre season. He would have played in the regular season.

Runner
09-01-2009, 01:52 PM
Speaking for myself, I make a distinction between toughness and durability. Having the mental fortitude to play through pain and injury is a good trait. It is also separate from not getting injured in the first place.

He DID play through it. The coach pulled him because it was pre season. He would have played in the regular season.

I know he did. That is the example I was using to highlight the difference between toughness and durability. I state they are two different things.

I did not say Schaub wasn't tough.

My writing must be much more unclear than I think lately. I've been getting a lot of arguments about things I didn't say.

HOU-TEX
09-01-2009, 02:29 PM
Sure, he's tough (as any football player should be), but what does that have to do with his body's ability to remain injury free?

I know he did. That is the example I was using to highlight the difference between toughness and durability. I state they are two different things.

I did not say Schaub wasn't tough.

My writing must be much more unclear than I think lately. I've been getting a lot of arguments about things I didn't say.

Well, at least it's you instead of me. I posted basically the same thing earlier.

eriadoc
09-01-2009, 02:44 PM
My writing must be much more unclear than I think lately. I've been getting a lot of arguments about things I didn't say.

So you're saying people can't read now.

(just kidding!)

:)

Runner
09-01-2009, 02:52 PM
My writing must be much more unclear than I think lately. I've been getting a lot of arguments about things I didn't say.

So you're saying people can't read now.

(just kidding!)

:)


Dammit!



Good one though.

El Tejano
09-01-2009, 03:12 PM
Any word on the ankle and how long it will take to get better?

The Pencil Neck
09-01-2009, 04:37 PM
Any word on the ankle and how long it will take to get better?

They're saying he's at 99% to be ready for the Jets.

IBleedTexans
03-09-2010, 02:52 PM
Just brought this thread back to make some folks eat it . Lol j/k , but in all seriousness he did make it thru the entire season . Played hurt one game, maybe he's not made of glass after all.

Section516
03-09-2010, 02:54 PM
SHHH! YOU WILL ANGER THE GODS! :bat:

Hardcore Texan
03-09-2010, 03:29 PM
Ha ha, I loved reading some of the replies, so many people were throwing Matt under the bus after one tweaked ankle.

IBleedTexans
03-09-2010, 03:38 PM
Ha ha, I loved reading some of the replies, so many people were throwing Matt under the bus after one tweaked ankle.

That's why I brought it back so people could re think their responses. I had a few good laughs re reading thru some of the post.

Thorn
03-09-2010, 04:34 PM
That's why I brought it back so people could re think their responses. I had a few good laughs re reading thru some of the post.

So some people were wrong. Big deal, it's the internet. People are wrong on the internet daily, including here. Schaub has played three seasons with the Texans, two of those he missed games because of injuries and that's why folks have reacted they way they have. It's no big deal, and quite frankly expected.

alphajoker
03-09-2010, 04:51 PM
It is the off-season indeed. :kitten:

Hardcore Texan
03-09-2010, 06:02 PM
So some people were wrong. Big deal, it's the internet. People are wrong on the internet daily, including here. Schaub has played three seasons with the Texans, two of those he missed games because of injuries and that's why folks have reacted they way they have. It's no big deal, and quite frankly expected.

This is true. But some of these posters repeatedly tell us how right they are.....:jk:

But you're right, lots of reason to be anxious about any little hint of an injury last year. And Matt proved a lot last season, hopefully he proves even more next season :fans:

We need him to play full seasons on a regular basis. ;)

Carr Bombed
03-09-2010, 06:38 PM
Just brought this thread back to make some folks eat it . Lol j/k , but in all seriousness he did make it thru the entire season . Played hurt one game, maybe he's not made of glass after all.

Umm, I'm still not seeing how Matt proved he isn't injury prone. I've got into arguments over this subject before, but lets get real here. If that injury happened to the other shoulder Matt would of missed MULTIPLE GAMES.......AGAIN

The guy still picked up a some what major injury.....until he makes it through a entire season healthy he still holds that tag,..with me anyways.

And as long as Chris Myers is our starting center, if you held a gun to my head and made me place a bet on whether or not Schaub will mis a game/games next season I'm going to bet on him missing some time. (especially next season where there's nothing, but 3-4 teams with dominant NTs on the schedule) He has been hurt every single year here, including last year. Matt picked up a ton of toughness points with me, but as far as his ability to avoid injury...that didn't move much.

Thorn
03-09-2010, 07:20 PM
This is true. But some of these posters repeatedly tell us how right they are.....:jk:

But you're right, lots of reason to be anxious about any little hint of an injury last year. And Matt proved a lot last season, hopefully he proves even more next season :fans:

We need him to play full seasons on a regular basis. ;)

Last year Schaub proved he can go 16 games. Now he needs to prove he can do it consistently. I'm over my Schaub bashing days anyway. It's clearly obvious we have one of the better starting QBs in the NFL right now. But you do have to admit to the facts, and thems are he's played three seasons as a full time starter and missed games in two of them.

But hey, even if he is "injury prone", I'd still take him over just about 3/4 of the rest of the starting QBs in the NFL.

Hervoyel
03-09-2010, 07:46 PM
Ha ha, I loved reading some of the replies, so many people were throwing Matt under the bus after one tweaked ankle.

That's exactly right.... except for the part where it isn't. Nobody was throwing Matt under the bus after one tweaked ankle. People (myself included) were throwing Matt under the bus after two years of 11 starts due to injuries and a tweaked ankle that seemed to come out of nowhere and confirm that we'd be looking at another year of the same thing.

Carr Bombed
03-09-2010, 07:51 PM
Last year Schaub proved he can go 16 games. Now he needs to prove he can do it consistently. I'm over my Schaub bashing days anyway. It's clearly obvious we have one of the better starting QBs in the NFL right now. But you do have to admit to the facts, and thems are he's played three seasons as a full time starter and missed games in two of them.

But hey, even if he is "injury prone", I'd still take him over just about 3/4 of the rest of the starting QBs in the NFL.

Oh don't get me wrong....I LOVE SCHAUB and have been high on him since day 1, but he's still injury prone in my book.

It's like this...if a RB fumbles 15 times in a season, but only loses 1 fumble would you still think he was prone to fumble the ball? Matt Schaub still picked up a serious injury last season.....just because it was on his non throwing arm, that doesn't mean it should be ignored when talking about how prone he is to injury.

Hardcore Texan
03-09-2010, 09:20 PM
Last year Schaub proved he can go 16 games. Now he needs to prove he can do it consistently. I'm over my Schaub bashing days anyway. It's clearly obvious we have one of the better starting QBs in the NFL right now. But you do have to admit to the facts, and thems are he's played three seasons as a full time starter and missed games in two of them.

But hey, even if he is "injury prone", I'd still take him over just about 3/4 of the rest of the starting QBs in the NFL.

That's exactly right.... except for the part where it isn't. Nobody was throwing Matt under the bus after one tweaked ankle. People (myself included) were throwing Matt under the bus after two years of 11 starts due to injuries and a tweaked ankle that seemed to come out of nowhere and confirm that we'd be looking at another year of the same thing.

I was just commenting that in hind sight it was kind of funny to see the reactions from people, it was some knee jerking, didn't say it wasn't a little deserved. I hope you guys both saw the rest of my post.

But you're right, lots of reason to be anxious about any little hint of an injury last year. And Matt proved a lot last season, hopefully he proves even more next season

We need him to play full seasons on a regular basis.

buddyboy
03-09-2010, 11:34 PM
That's exactly right.... except for the part where it isn't. Nobody was throwing Matt under the bus after one tweaked ankle. People (myself included) were throwing Matt under the bus after two years of 11 starts due to injuries and a tweaked ankle that seemed to come out of nowhere and confirm that we'd be looking at another year of the same thing.

Which would have been exactly right...except for the part where him tweaking an ankle didn't confirm anything.

gtexan02
03-10-2010, 01:58 PM
Someone needs to tell him that the key to staying healthy is a nice pair of mittens and the fetal position

Now THAT is funny :clown: