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GP
08-16-2009, 12:31 AM
Name the QBs who are capable of running the Kubiak system. Because it sounds like nobody here is happy with the two backups.

For fun, let's say we're GM for a day. We just cut both backup QBs and we're holding talks and tryouts with free agent QBs.

My first idea is unavailable. He plays in the CFL now, but he was on a pass-happy college team and went undrafted in this year's draft.

List guys who are free agents. Can't be a "wish I had THIS guy" idea.

Koolaid Time
08-16-2009, 12:33 AM
Hell, let James Casey try out. He played some QB at Rice.

GP
08-16-2009, 12:37 AM
Hell, let James Casey try out. He played some QB at Rice.

Are you attempting to use a loop-hole here? :foottap:

LOL.

Free agents only. Nice try, though...

m5kwatts
08-16-2009, 12:40 AM
I'm fine with Orlovsky, he didn't finish drives yes but he made some good throws. I see something there with him. Rex's performance was very disheartening, looking like he did with the Bears doing dumb things like fumbling snaps and closing his eyes and throwing hail marys into double coverage.

I doubt Rex is released but they might bring in some QBs just to take a look, especially if Rex's injury is something.

Carr Bombed
08-16-2009, 12:48 AM
LOL, don't you think we should give these guys atleast a couple of preseason games before we just declare they suck? They did just start learning this system. Relax people, it was the very first game with live bullets....if their performances don't improve next week, then I'll start to worry. The coaches/QBs now have live tape they can go over and improve from.

GP
08-16-2009, 01:05 AM
LOL, don't you think we should give these atleast a couple of more preseason games before we just declare they suck? They did just start learning this system. Relax people, it was the very first game with live bullets....if their performance doesn't improve next week, then I'll start to worry. The coaches/QBs now have live tape they can go over and improve from.

Well you're no fun.

You could've said "Bring back Zabransky."

Or maybe BJ Symons.

Carr Bombed
08-16-2009, 01:14 AM
Well you're no fun.

You could've said "Bring back Zabransky."

Or maybe BJ Symons.

Silly GP, I've always been a Dave Ragone type of guy :cool:

Specnatz
08-16-2009, 01:16 AM
Silly GP, I've always been a Dave Ragone type of guy :cool:

Maybe we can get TJ to call and see if Trent Green would like to come to Houston?

GP
08-16-2009, 01:23 AM
Maybe we can get TJ to call and see if Trent Green would like to come to Houston?

LOL.

That was uncalled for.

Specnatz
08-16-2009, 01:35 AM
LOL.

That was uncalled for.

But you laughed.

Spled
08-16-2009, 01:38 AM
You've got to wonder if Philly is going to keep 4 quarterbacks. I'll take Feely or Kolb.

Carr Bombed
08-16-2009, 01:41 AM
You've got to wonder if Philly is going to keep 4 quarterbacks. I'll take Feely or Kolb.

Why? That guy hasn't done anything in this league that the players on this roster haven't already done. Honestly the guys we have now have done more. Kolb has been a disappointment so far in Philadelphia.

LOL, I mean this is a guy who has his own "Sucks" forum...

http://www.talk-sports.net/nfl/sucks.aspx/Kevin_Kolb

Joe Texan
08-16-2009, 01:47 AM
Why is OOMPA LOOMPA even out there

Specnatz
08-16-2009, 01:51 AM
Why? That guy hasn't done anything in this league that the players on this roster haven't already done. Honestly the guys we have now have done more. Kolb has been a disappointment so far in Philadelphia.

LOL, I mean this is a guy who has his own "Sucks" forum...

http://www.talk-sports.net/nfl/sucks.aspx/Kevin_Kolb

He was drafted in 2007 and has only been in half a game and it was against the Ravens who have either the best or second best D in the league. He went in after McNabb got benched at halftime. Honestly there is not enough information on Kolb to say one way or the other.

As far as that forum is ... anyone can make up something like that.

There is a Tom Brady sucks forum

http://www.talk-sports.net/nfl/sucks.aspx/Tom_Brady

GNTLEWOLF
08-16-2009, 01:57 AM
Where is Brian Griese?.........or <putting on crash helmet and flack jacket> we might be able to trade for Carr

ChampionTexan
08-16-2009, 02:06 AM
In no particular order:

Brett Favre:jk:

Vinny Testaverde:jk:

Jake Plummer:jk:

Carr Bombed
08-16-2009, 02:09 AM
He was drafted in 2007 and has only been in half a game and it was against the Ravens who have either the best or second best D in the league. He went in after McNabb got benched at halftime. Honestly there is not enough information on Kolb to say one way or the other.

Yes, but the signing of Mike Vick does not give Kolb much of a vote of confidence.....the organization is looking to push McNabb for whatever reason and Kolb isn't doing it, he isn't even coming close...he just lost his job to a guy who spent the last 2 years in jail.

As far as that forum is ... anyone can make up something like that.

There is a Tom Brady sucks forum

http://www.talk-sports.net/nfl/sucks.aspx/Tom_Brady


LOL, the only difference is, is that Patriot fans aren't starting that forum (serioulsy who's going to start a Brady sucks thread in 2009)...those are just haters. Kolb has done absolutely NOTHING in this league for anybody to say we should bring him in over what we have now. If the eagles had any confidence in Kolb they wouldn't have signed Mike Vick....obviously Kolb is the odd man out. I know the guy is a fan favorite here, because he played for Houston, but for a 2nd round pick he has done NOTHING... He's starting to look like one of the multiple overhyped QB Houston has produced. I'd pass.

indiantexan
08-16-2009, 02:14 AM
Yes, but the signing of Mike Vick does not give Kolb much of a vote of confidence.....the organization is looking to push McNabb for whatever reason and Kolb isn't doing it, he isn't even coming close...he just lost his job to a guy who spent the last 2 years in jail.




LOL, the only difference is, is that Patriot fans aren't starting that forum (serioulsy who's going to start a Brady sucks thread in 2009)...those are just haters. Kolb has done absolutely NOTHING in this league for anybody to say we should bring him in over what we have now. If the eagles had any confidence in Kolb they wouldn't have signed Mike Vick....obviously Kolb is the odd man out. I know the guy is a fan favorite here, because he played for Houston, but for a 2nd round pick he has done NOTHING... He's starting to look like one of the multiple overhyped QB Houston has produced. I'd pass.

IIRC, Kolb was out with an injury before they signed Vick

Carr Bombed
08-16-2009, 02:37 AM
IIRC, Kolb was out with an injury before they signed Vick

Yes he was hurt, but according to sources, the eagles were in talks with the Vick camp before that injury took place.........Kolb is not living up to his draft status there.

ObsiWan
08-16-2009, 04:34 AM
What's Quinn Gray doing now days?
:hides:
then there's Brian Griese or Cleo Lemon...

I think we stand pat folks.

ObsiWan
08-16-2009, 04:45 AM
Where is Brian Griese?.........or <putting on crash helmet and flack jacket> we might be able to trade for Carr

Flak jacket/crash helmet won't be enough.
you'd better dress like a bomb squad dude and then go hide in a bunker.

GNTLEWOLF
08-16-2009, 05:01 AM
Flak jacket/crash helmet won't be enough.
you'd better dress like a bomb squad dude and then go hide in a bunker.

I don't get internet in my bunker...security issues and all. would it help if I said I was just kidding about the Carr thing?

Mari-OWNED!
08-16-2009, 05:21 AM
I have no problem with Orlovsky as our backup.

If I was GM, Orlovsky would be the #2 and hell I'd even keep Grossman as the #3 just in case we get some injuries... (Knock on wood!)

Thorn
08-16-2009, 07:13 AM
Dan O has potential and will improve under Kubiac's system, so we are good with him as long as Schaub doesn't go down early in the season. As to the 3rd string QB, I'm sure there are some avaliable but they would be coming in late for training. If they don't dump Grossman immediatly and get someone this coming week, they'll probably hold onto Grossman. They should've had a 4th option all along, to depend on a failed QB from another system for a backup probably wasn't smart.

As to throwing out names, I can't because I don't really keep up with college players or other teams that well. And all the good Carr and Farve jokes have already been made. LOL

ObsiWan
08-16-2009, 07:32 AM
Well you're no fun.

You could've said "Bring back Zabransky."

Or maybe BJ Symons.

where IS Zabransky now days anyhow?

ObsiWan
08-16-2009, 07:37 AM
edit: double post
sorry

ObsiWan
08-16-2009, 07:39 AM
I don't get internet in my bunker...security issues and all. would it help if I said I was just kidding about the Carr thing?

Maybe. It doesn't bother me
...but some of these guys aren't as forgiving as I am...
http://www.starwarsaficionado.com/i//DEATHSTAR1.jpg

Specnatz
08-16-2009, 10:08 AM
What's Quinn Gray doing now days?
:hides:
then there's Brian Griese or Cleo Lemon...

I think we stand pat folks.

Cleo Lemon took a physical yesterday and was about to sign, I forget the team it was on the scroll while I was watching NFLN.

ChampionTexan
08-16-2009, 10:55 AM
where IS Zabransky now days anyhow?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uE1n8xARdX4/SEZ_SpwOGqI/AAAAAAAAFVg/bhNqLNsgiuo/s400/Eskimos%2BTraining%2BCamp.jpg

HouSportsWriter
08-16-2009, 11:03 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uE1n8xARdX4/SEZ_SpwOGqI/AAAAAAAAFVg/bhNqLNsgiuo/s400/Eskimos%2BTraining%2BCamp.jpg


i liked him 2,,,,

Joe Texan
08-16-2009, 11:10 AM
Oompa Loompa need to call Charlie and get his old job back

swtbound07
08-16-2009, 11:22 AM
shayne boyd.

b0ng
08-16-2009, 12:13 PM
We need to see some QB's who get cut in preseason first. Like somebody brought up the Eagles are currently holding 4 QB's on their roster. I'm sure other teams have a bloated number of QB's right now that will get the axe when we slim the rosters down a little (Isn't there a cut down to a higher number than 53 right before preseason is over?).

But to contribute, Joey Harrington. He may not be an FA right this second but. . .

Kimmy
08-16-2009, 05:00 PM
With Grossman out, this thread just got a lot more interesting!

GP
08-16-2009, 07:24 PM
Andre Ware.

Bubby Brister (because his name MUST always be used in these threads)

Billy Joe Tolliver.

Bucky Richardson.

GNTLEWOLF
08-16-2009, 07:52 PM
Andre Ware.

Bubby Brister (because his name MUST always be used in these threads)

Billy Joe Tolliver.

Bucky Richardson.

Ken Stabler
Darrell Lamonica
Bart Starr
Archie Manning
Dan Pastorini
Joe Montanna

CloakNNNdagger
08-16-2009, 08:06 PM
Ken Stabler
Darrell Lamonica
Bart Starr
Archie Manning
Dan Pastorini
Joe Montanna


If I recollect Jeff "head case" George's only real career "injury" was a case of shoulder tendinitis that kept him out of only one preseason game. Injury free........but mindless too.

drewmar74
08-16-2009, 09:13 PM
If I recollect Jeff "head case" George's only real career "injury" was a case of shoulder tendinitis that kept him out of only one preseason game. Injury free........but mindless too.

Beat me to it.

George is the original 6 foot 5 laser rocket armed QB.

See, Manning was just copying the original!

http://photos.indystar.com/photos/2007/8/24/5420/show.jpg

http://thecollegefootballreview.com/images/MiscHumorous/JeffGeorgeColts.jpg

Mean Machine
08-16-2009, 09:26 PM
With 3 games remaining in the pre-season, and Rex Grosssman out for 4-6 weeks, we have to bring in a 3rd QB. The list is pretty bleak:


Player Exp. Status '08 Team
Anthony Wright 10 UFA NY Giants

Brad Johnson 17 Released Cowboys

Brett Favre 18 Retired N.Y. Jets

Brooks Bollinger 6 UFA Cowboys

Drew Henson 3 RFA Lions

J.P. Losman 5 UFA Bills

Jamie Martin 14 UFA 49ers

Ken Dorsey 6 Released Browns

Marques Tuiasosopo 8 UFA Raiders

Quinn Gray 6 Released Chiefs

Trent Green 15 Released Rams

GNTLEWOLF
08-16-2009, 09:41 PM
If I recollect Jeff "head case" George's only real career "injury" was a case of shoulder tendinitis that kept him out of only one preseason game. Injury free........but mindless too.

and...a recent article by jason Whitlock was all about hawking Jeff George's skills and trying to get someone to sign him...

GNTLEWOLF
08-16-2009, 09:42 PM
Where is AAron Brooks these days?

GP
08-16-2009, 10:26 PM
Ken Stabler
Darrell Lamonica
Bart Starr
Archie Manning
Dan Pastorini
Joe Montanna

LOL.

I think we need to combine our two lists, keeping only the quirky names:

Bart
Archie
Bubby
Billy Joe
Bucky

Those names sound like they could belong to some of my dad's fellow cotton farming friends.

V3rm0nt3r
08-17-2009, 12:11 AM
With 3 games remaining in the pre-season, and Rex Grosssman out for 4-6 weeks, we have to bring in a 3rd QB. The list is pretty bleak:


Player Exp. Status '08 Team
Anthony Wright 10 UFA NY Giants

Brad Johnson 17 Released Cowboys

Brett Favre 18 Retired N.Y. Jets

Brooks Bollinger 6 UFA Cowboys

Drew Henson 3 RFA Lions

J.P. Losman 5 UFA Bills

Jamie Martin 14 UFA 49ers

Ken Dorsey 6 Released Browns

Marques Tuiasosopo 8 UFA Raiders

Quinn Gray 6 Released Chiefs

Trent Green 15 Released Rams

Bollinger Losman Gray and MAYBE Dorsey have signed with UFL teams. add to that list Boyd.

m5kwatts
08-17-2009, 12:17 AM
No way its anyone other than Brink

NitroGSXR
08-17-2009, 12:36 AM
Anyone think Curtis Painter will make the Colts final 53? I really can't see them carrying three QBs although I have absolutely no idea what they've done in the past nor the new coaches philosophy on carrying 3 with Manning at the reins.

I can see the Colts stashing him away but can't we sign players off other teams practice squads?

I'm trying to keep my mind open to QBs being cut or stashed.

Spled
08-17-2009, 01:06 AM
Kolb must be doing something right, he's still # 2 qb-
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20090816_Kolb_still_No__2_QB__says_Reid.html

ObsiWan
08-17-2009, 02:17 AM
Anyone think Curtis Painter will make the Colts final 53? I really can't see them carrying three QBs although I have absolutely no idea what they've done in the past nor the new coaches philosophy on carrying 3 with Manning at the reins.

I can see the Colts stashing him away but can't we sign players off other teams practice squads?

I'm trying to keep my mind open to QBs being cut or stashed.

We can't wait for someone to be cut.
We need a camp arm right away.
I'll be surprised if Brink isn't back by Tues.

kiwitexansfan
08-17-2009, 02:50 AM
Don't all the UFL players have a get out clause if an NFL team comes calling.

I would think it would be a player who is familiar with the Texans scheme, think Brink, Zabransky or the immortal BVP.

b0ng
08-17-2009, 05:27 AM
Anyone think Curtis Painter will make the Colts final 53? I really can't see them carrying three QBs although I have absolutely no idea what they've done in the past nor the new coaches philosophy on carrying 3 with Manning at the reins.

I can see the Colts stashing him away but can't we sign players off other teams practice squads?

I'm trying to keep my mind open to QBs being cut or stashed.
All practice squad players are cut for one day and then signed to rookie minimum contract. Any team can claim them on waivers but I think they have to be put on the final 53 due to these players being cut on the way down to 53. Practice squad players do not count against the roster max.

NitroGSXR
08-17-2009, 06:46 AM
We can't wait for someone to be cut.
We need a camp arm right away.
I'll be surprised if Brink isn't back by Tues.

I'm not saying we wait to sign somebody. Just looking for a replacement somewhere. We absolutely cannot count on that happening. It's just somebody that I'd like to keep a real close eye on.

ObsiWan
08-17-2009, 07:19 AM
I'm not saying we wait to sign somebody. Just looking for a replacement somewhere. We absolutely cannot count on that happening. It's just somebody that I'd like to keep a real close eye on.

Understand.
You know this whole unfolding scenario brings up an interesting question, just what will Kubiak do with Rexy boy?

We all know that we'll need a third QB for a camp arm. So maybe Brink comes back, maybe Smithiak has someone else on the Roledex.... But supposedly Grossman will be healthy by the first or second game of the season.

Soooo what do we do with him on "Cut day"? Do we...
(a) Straight up cut him and grab someone else ASAP?
(b) Put him on the PUP and cut his replacement when he comes back?
(c) Roll the dice and only go with two QBs this year?
(c) Use a roster spot on him because "book 'em Dan-O" (Hawaii Five-O reference for you younguns) looks a little too shakey to be the long term answer as our Schaub insurance policy?

what say you?


...feel free to turn this into a poll if you think it's an interesting enough question.

Thorn
08-17-2009, 07:47 AM
Understand.
You know this whole unfolding scenario brings up an interesting question, just what will Kubiak do with Rexy boy?

We all know that we'll need a third QB for a camp arm. So maybe Brink comes back, maybe Smithiak has someone else on the Roledex.... But supposedly Grossman will be healthy by the first or second game of the season.

Soooo what do we do with him on "Cut day"? Do we...
(a) Straight up cut him and grab someone else ASAP?
(b) Put him on the PUP and cut his replacement when he comes back?
(c) Roll the dice and only go with two QBs this year?
(c) Use a roster spot on him because "book 'em Dan-O" (Hawaii Five-O reference for you younguns) looks a little too shakey to be the long term answer as our Schaub insurance policy?

what say you?


...feel free to turn this into a poll if you think it's an interesting enough question.

Longer term, I think DanO will be just fine, not so much in the immediate future though. He needs some work by Kubiac and the staff to get him up to snuff. Out of your options, I'd go with A and just go ahead and get rid of Grossman now. How much worse can Brink be than Grossman? Personally, I think Brink would be an improvement over Grossman, and even still I bet there are better options than Brink out there for us.

TimeKiller
08-17-2009, 09:39 AM
I remember when it was Schaub's first year in the system he looked like he had some accuracy issues. DanO is still learning much.


Honestly....I'd call Favre hahahaha....

El Tejano
08-17-2009, 09:44 AM
I think JP Losman would be a good pick up for us. Judging by those who are available. He's young and wants back in the league somehow. I think he could do good in the WCO.

V3rm0nt3r
08-17-2009, 10:09 AM
I think JP Losman would be a good pick up for us. Judging by those who are available. He's young and wants back in the league somehow. I think he could do good in the WCO.

if there is that clause in UFL contracts i'd totally be willing to give Losman a shot. the only problem is that Losman doesn't want to come back into the league battleing for a number 2 or possibly number 3 spot. he went to the UFL because he wanted to start, not because he couldn't find another backup gig in the NFL.

if he's successful in the UFL than i expect him to come back into a position much like the one we put Rosenfels in this year in Minn.

disaacks3
08-17-2009, 10:24 AM
With 3 games remaining in the pre-season, and Rex Grosssman out for 4-6 weeks, we have to bring in a 3rd QB. The list is pretty bleak:


Player Exp. Status '08 Team
Anthony Wright 10 UFA NY Giants

Brad Johnson 17 Released Cowboys

Brett Favre 18 Retired N.Y. Jets

Brooks Bollinger 6 UFA Cowboys

Drew Henson 3 RFA Lions

J.P. Losman 5 UFA Bills

Jamie Martin 14 UFA 49ers

Ken Dorsey 6 Released Browns

Marques Tuiasosopo 8 UFA Raiders

Quinn Gray 6 Released Chiefs

Trent Green 15 Released Rams

Out of that list, I'd take Losman...he's used to playing catch against our secondary already. :hides:

OzzO
08-17-2009, 12:07 PM
It's pretty much been mentioned, but...

Quarterback Rex Grossman is out for four to five weeks because of a pulled hamstring. Kubiak is considering re-signing Alex Brink, who was waived before camp, or another veteran. chronic (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/6575113.html)

From that same article, something to watch for when we play the Saints...

Rather than sign a veteran fullback to back up starter Vonta Leach, Kubiak said Sunday that Casey would get more repetitions in that role this week when the Texans practice against the Saints three times before playing them Saturday at Reliant Stadium.

I think the emphasis will be on the former path.