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axman40
07-20-2009, 09:54 PM
In a complaint that reads like the rape allegations made several years ago against NBA star Kobe Bryant, Harrah's employee Andrea McNulty alleges sexual assault against Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger in a lawsuit filed last week in Washoe County, Nevada.

But lawyer David Cornwell strongly denied the allegations Monday night, in a statement released to PFT. "Ben has never sexually assaulted anyone; especially Andrea McNulty," Cornwell said.

In the civil suit, which Cornwell confirms was served on Roethlisberger over the weekend and a copy of which our own Gregg Rosenthal has obtained, McNulty alleges that Roethlisberger asked her to come to his hotel room to fix the television, and that he thereafter forced her to have sex with him.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/07/20/roethlisberger-denies-civil-allegations-of-sexual-assault/

WWJD
07-20-2009, 10:00 PM
I have to say I've never heard of a woman TV repair person???

infantrycak
07-20-2009, 11:38 PM
"especially whatever her name is" Nice phrasing counsel. So there are other people that might have more reason to make the allegations.

Just an observation - no judgment on the merits at all although my suspicion is in Ben's favor.

DiehardChris
07-21-2009, 12:12 AM
The fact that this is a civil case and so far as I can tell there is no CRIMINAL charge kind of makes me not take it as seriously as I probably should. I mean - if it's rape, shouldn't this be a criminal case?

HoustonFrog
07-21-2009, 08:09 AM
The fact that this is a civil case and so far as I can tell there is no CRIMINAL charge kind of makes me not take it as seriously as I probably should. I mean - if it's rape, shouldn't this be a criminal case?

That is what his attorney is saying too. PFT is also lamenting the fact that sources like ESPN are failing to pick up the story.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/07/21/espn-ignores-big-ben-story-so-far/

It's been more than 12 hours since we reported on the existence of a Nevada lawsuit against Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger. It's been roughly 12 hours since we reported that the case includes Kobe Bryant-style allegations against the two-time Super Bowl winner.

As expected, the Associated Press has finally caught up with the story, and as usual failed to credit us in any way, shape, or form, despite the quasi-legitimacy that our NBC partnership provides.

But the folks in Bristol, to whose news desk we sent an e-mail not long after the story was published, have said nothing about the lawsuit.

It conjures memories of the Mike Vick "Ron Mexico" lawsuit from several years back, which was flat out ignored by ESPN and others for days, if not weeks.

So why? Would ESPN have squatted on the thing if a member of the NFL reporting army brought this one to the table? Or does the adage "if it's not our news, it's new to us" still apply?

Our money is on the latter.

But let's see if the story makes it into the Tuesday morning SportsCenter loop.

texasguy346
07-21-2009, 03:48 PM
Her story seems a bit strange to me...

Suit claims Roethlisberger sexually assaulted woman
Tuesday, July 21, 2009
By Jonathan D. Silver, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


An employee of Harrah's Lake Tahoe hotel in Nevada has claimed in a civil lawsuit that Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger sexually assaulted her in his room last July while he was in town for a celebrity golf tournament.

The complaint, filed Friday in Washoe County, Nev., also names eight Harrah's employees accused of being part of a widespread cover-up in the Harrah's organization. They include the resort's president, security chief and other supervisors.

...

At the time of the alleged assault last summer, the woman was an "executive casino host" who also worked as a concierge for the American Century Celebrity golf tournament.

The complaint said the woman was introduced to Mr. Roethlisberger by a hotel employee. They talked about fly fishing the day before the alleged assault.

One of the co-defendants, John Koster, listed as Harrah's Northern Nevada president, was paired with the quarterback for the golf event. The complaint said the woman learned that Mr. Koster "boasted" about his friendship with Mr. Roethlisberger. The security chief, identified as Guy Hyder, "emphasized how important it was for plaintiff to ensure that Roethlisberger had a nice trip."

The woman claims that around 10 p.m. on July 11 while she was at her post on the 17th floor, Mr. Roethlisberger asked her to fix a broken television sound system in his room on the same floor, according to the complaint.

She found the television working properly and tried to leave but claims that Mr. Roethlisberger grabbed, kissed and fondled her. Then, the complaint alleges, he pushed her onto his bed and had forcible intercourse with her.

After the alleged assault, the woman washed her face and "tried to pull herself together," the complaint states.

"There are cameras on this room, aren't there," Mr. Roethlisberger allegedly asked her.

"Yes," she replied, "There are cameras everywhere."

"Roethlisberger, acting very worried, sternly instructed her, 'If anyone asks you, you fixed my television. You fixed my television. Now go!' " he said sternly, according to the suit.


The complaint details a year-long battle that the woman says she waged against her bosses, depression and anxiety.

The woman assumed hotel security would investigate and notify the hotel's executives, the complaint said. She did not go to the police because she "was afraid of the consequences of reporting it to police authorities since it was obvious to her that Harrah's and its personnel, particularly Hyder and Koster, would side with and support Roethlisberger, the celebrity friend of Koster," according to the complaint.

She said her bosses dismissed her concerns, including Mr. Hyder, who allegedly told her she was overreacting and that "most girls would feel lucky to get to have sex with someone like Ben Roethlisberger."

The complaint blames Mr. Hyder for failing to preserve any physical evidence of the alleged assault, interview witnesses or conduct an investigation.

The woman was in and out of hospitals several times since the alleged incident, ringing up $380,000 in medical bills, the suit says.

According to the complaint, while Mr. Roethlisberger was invited back to Harrah's during this year's golf tournament, which took place last week, the resort "insisted" that the woman take a paid two-week leave "to accommodate her assailant."

The suit lists 12 claims, including assault, sexual assault and battery, false imprisonment, fraud, invasion of privacy and defamation.



link (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09202/985356-66.stm?cmpid=steelers.xml)

For those interested in reading the Civil Complaint PDF (http://www.post-gazette.com/downloads/20090721_roethlisberger.pdf)

spurstexanstros
07-21-2009, 05:16 PM
I have to say I've never heard of a woman TV repair person???




Seriously, I think these athletes need to not be alone with other women who is not their wife or girlfriend because bad things happen. If he did it shame on him, but nowadays the allegations are enough to ruin a reputation.

TEXANRED
07-21-2009, 10:23 PM
"especially whatever her name is" Nice phrasing counsel. So there are other people that might have more reason to make the allegations.
Just an observation - no judgment on the merits at all although my suspicion is in Ben's favor.

And when he says Whatever her name is he means last years Texans defensive coordinator Richard Smith.

TexanSam
07-21-2009, 11:12 PM
Why did it take her a year to file the suit? This seems really fishy.

awtysst
07-22-2009, 12:24 AM
Seriously, I think these athletes need to not be alone with other women who is not their wife or girlfriend because bad things happen. If he did it shame on him, but nowadays the allegations are enough to ruin a reputation.

I read somewhere that Albert Pujols is fairly paranoid about this type of thing. He always rooms with at least one other player. If he is going up in an elevator and there is only one woman in the elevator he waits for the next one or takes the stairs.

Paranoid, but perhaps justified too.

Showtime100
07-22-2009, 08:01 AM
So amazing how ESPN has their fingers in their ears yelling "la-la-la-la-la" about this whole thing. I thought maybe Mike & Mike In The Morning might have a word on it, but instead I know what Ashton Kutcher's last tweet was and that T.O. has a cereal coming out. I know the show is fluff, but it doesn't stop them with other athletes.

I won't be home today but would be interested to see if they dare piss Big Ben off not to mention tarnish their corporate relationship and report the known fact this is he's being sued.

But shortly after 1 p.m. ET today, Florio discovers that ESPN has issued a strict "DO NOT REPORT" order, baffling its staffers. Thanks to the Sports Media Watch for the link.


The Leader....pffft. ESPN has an interest in keeping him clean - see Shaq's "reality" show. Just so screwed up on so many levels.

Kaiser Toro
07-22-2009, 08:14 AM
They just had the ESPY's and Roethlisberger was scheduled to attend, which probably meant he would be interviewed during the the build up, the show, and after

In addition, top athletes scheduled to attend so far include: Carmelo Anthony, Helio Castroneves, Santonio Holmes, Shawn Johnson, Michael Phelps, Ben Roethlisberger, Misty May-Treanor, Kurt Warner, and more.

http://espnmediazone.com/press_releases/2009_07_july/20090708_StarstoLightUpThe2009ESPYsHostedbySamuelL Jackson.htm

gary
07-22-2009, 11:20 AM
No one will ever know because no one was there. It is just another case of he said she said nothing more and nothing less. The aren't any cameraes in any hotel room that I know of. How is she going to prove her case? Marks on her? I doubt it. We all have our questions about this story. Why wasn't Ben ever charged? She is already asking for money and waited a year to file her suit. Why? I don't know if I buy she was too scared to tell anyone right away I know I would. I have never heard of a lady repair person. We don't know if something happend but she agreed to it and now she sees it as a way to make money so she is now telling a lie. I think she has already won though regardless of the outcome of the case beacause she has changed the way people will look at Ben for the rest of his life.

Blazing Arrow
07-22-2009, 12:31 PM
I read somewhere that Albert Pujols is fairly paranoid about this type of thing. He always rooms with at least one other player. If he is going up in an elevator and there is only one woman in the elevator he waits for the next one or takes the stairs.

Paranoid, but perhaps justified too.

Maybe he just prefers the company of men?

Blazing Arrow
07-22-2009, 12:37 PM
No one will ever know because no one was there. It is just another case of he said she said nothing more and nothing less. The aren't any cameraes in any hotel room that I know of. How is she going to prove her case? Marks on her? I doubt it. We all have our questions about this story. Why wasn't Ben ever charged? She is already asking for money and waited a year to file her suit. Why? I don't know if I buy she was too scared to tell anyone right away I know I would. I have never heard of a lady repair person. We don't know if something happend but she agreed to it and now she sees it as a way to make money so she is now telling a lie. I think she has already won though regardless of the outcome of the case beacause she has changed the way people will look at Ben for the rest of his life.

yes if Ben Roethlisberger raped you in his hotel room I would imagine you would be screaming from the top of your lungs.

And she was not a repair person she was the hotel concierge. He just asked her to see if she could fix the TV. Assuming she is telling the truth which on that part she probably at least is she would have probably attempted to fix it on her own before calling hotel repair. Probably assumed the motorcycle accident made the use of remotes difficult for him.

bah007
07-22-2009, 01:34 PM
I read somewhere that Albert Pujols is fairly paranoid about this type of thing. He always rooms with at least one other player. If he is going up in an elevator and there is only one woman in the elevator he waits for the next one or takes the stairs.

Paranoid, but perhaps justified too.

Isn't Pujols married?

StarStruck
07-22-2009, 02:17 PM
Isn't Pujols married?

It doesn't matter. Some claims are legitimate and others are scams. If caught up in a scam it's still going to cost you money and a blemish on your reputation. It's unfortunate that people in the limelight need body guards or witnesses, but sometimes that's what it takes to protect yourself.

At this time, I don't see adequate proof of the claims and will wait to see how the events unfold before casting doubt of Roethlisberger's innocence.

gary
07-22-2009, 02:43 PM
yes if Ben Roethlisberger raped you in his hotel room I would imagine you would be screaming from the top of your lungs.

And she was not a repair person she was the hotel concierge. He just asked her to see if she could fix the TV. Assuming she is telling the truth which on that part she probably at least is she would have probably attempted to fix it on her own before calling hotel repair. Probably assumed the motorcycle accident made the use of remotes difficult for him.Look Mr. Did I say screaming? You do not wait a year that my friend is just way too long. She has already stated the amount of money she would like. Wouldn't you want the cops to know ASAP to try to get the person locked up? I now understand she is not the hotel T.V. repair person. This case is Kobe Bryant 2.0.

NitroGSXR
07-22-2009, 02:47 PM
Isn't Pujols married?

Exactly. He doesn't want to be Gatti-ed.

I'm the same way and I have no money.

Blazing Arrow
07-22-2009, 03:44 PM
Look Mr. Did I say screaming? You do not wait a year that my friend is just way too long. She has already stated the amount of money she would like. Wouldn't you want the cops to know ASAP to try to get the person locked up? I now understand she is not the hotel T.V. repair person. This case is Kobe Bryant 2.0.

Not necessarily. If she was afraid she would loose her job over it she might not want to tell anyone. Assuming she did tell the security at the hotel she could have also expected it to be taken care of but never was. She could have been ashamed that she let it happen. She also probably thought no one would believe her as is evident from this threads reaction. There are a lot of reasons why she could have waited but I am sure the hotel telling her that she needed to go on vacation for a couple weeks while he came back if the event really did happen was the final straw. Also the reason they may not be going after him criminally is because of lack of evidence. A prosecutor could have taken a look at her story and said there was no way to get a guilty charge on him. Lawyer steps in and says maybe not in criminal but in civil trial she could.

And the comment about the screaming was if he attack YOU. He is a big dude and he might go all prison shower on you and it would be hard to stop if he really wanted it.

WWJD
07-22-2009, 03:58 PM
Isn't Pujols married?

Yea he is..with a few little ones I think.

Billy Graham has always done this..when he was traveling preaching he would not be alone with a woman other than his wife or daughters.

Too bad Jimmy Swaggart didn't do the same although I think he traveled to his conquests.

Blazing Arrow
07-22-2009, 04:12 PM
I take back what I said she is a nut job. Even though she is not pregnate she hopes her kids grow up to be as great a man as he is? :mcnugget:

So she hopes her son grows up to sexually assault someone :thinking:

gary
07-22-2009, 04:37 PM
Not necessarily. If she was afraid she would loose her job over it she might not want to tell anyone. Assuming she did tell the security at the hotel she could have also expected it to be taken care of but never was. She could have been ashamed that she let it happen. She also probably thought no one would believe her as is evident from this threads reaction. There are a lot of reasons why she could have waited but I am sure the hotel telling her that she needed to go on vacation for a couple weeks while he came back if the event really did happen was the final straw. Also the reason they may not be going after him criminally is because of lack of evidence. A prosecutor could have taken a look at her story and said there was no way to get a guilty charge on him. Lawyer steps in and says maybe not in criminal but in civil trial she could.

And the comment about the screaming was if he attack YOU. He is a big dude and he might go all prison shower on you and it would be hard to stop if he really wanted it.You might not scream while the rape is going on but to wait one year no matter how you look at it it's weird. She had the option of telling Ben to wait for the repair man. You say lack of edvidence. How much evidence is she going to have to have in court now? Probably not as much but she is still going to need something. We'll never ever know for sure what happend if anything. It is odd though that she is alreay talking about money and a certain amount and the trial is not even on your way yet. This whole thing sounds like a big old money making thing to me with the key word being sounds.

Second Honeymoon
07-22-2009, 05:51 PM
Not necessarily. If she was afraid she would loose her job over it she might not want to tell anyone. Assuming she did tell the security at the hotel she could have also expected it to be taken care of but never was. She could have been ashamed that she let it happen. She also probably thought no one would believe her as is evident from this threads reaction. There are a lot of reasons why she could have waited but I am sure the hotel telling her that she needed to go on vacation for a couple weeks while he came back if the event really did happen was the final straw. Also the reason they may not be going after him criminally is because of lack of evidence. A prosecutor could have taken a look at her story and said there was no way to get a guilty charge on him. Lawyer steps in and says maybe not in criminal but in civil trial she could.

And the comment about the screaming was if he attack YOU. He is a big dude and he might go all prison shower on you and it would be hard to stop if he really wanted it.

She reported the incident to her boss err the Head of Security immediately and her boss did nothing. She then tried to go other avenues within the chain of command. Doors shut in her faces, friends lost in the process. She was shat upon by a large corporation and the masses are just like oh meh never mind.

She didn't go to the cops in fear of losing her job or perhaps worse (this is Nevada casinos we are talking about) There is a paper trail, her home searched, her laptop hacked, and her life pretty much screwed. As much as I want to champion this guy, there is evidence going against him as well as conspiracy/coersion possibilities amongst the co-defendants.

She may not want to get him thrown in jail because of how many people that would affect and she would be a pariah and subject to much scorn and abuse or perhaps worse for the rest of her life. She may just want some sort of personal justice and for the aholes at Harrah's to get their just deserves. As for video, lets see what she looked like leaving Roethlisberger's room on the night in question. It's on tape. Everything that happens outside of a bedroom in a casino is on tape.

As for Ben, if there is evidence that he assaulted this woman, and there is evidence more than just her word, he should miss a year or more. We need to punish scumbags that treat woman this way. Ben aint the first one either.

Maybe I am being all chivalrous about this but I was born to believe that when there is smoke there is generally fire. This is pretty smoking if you ask me. I was also born that your not supposed to force women to have sex with you...I don't know, maybe I just had good parents and strong morals.

gary
07-22-2009, 06:14 PM
She reported the incident to her boss err the Head of Security immediately and her boss did nothing. She then tried to go other avenues within the chain of command. Doors shut in her faces, friends lost in the process. She was shat upon by a large corporation and the masses are just like oh meh never mind.

She didn't go to the cops in fear of losing her job or perhaps worse (this is Nevada casinos we are talking about) There is a paper trail, her home searched, her laptop hacked, and her life pretty much screwed. As much as I want to champion this guy, there is evidence going against him as well as conspiracy/coersion possibilities amongst the co-defendants.

She may not want to get him thrown in jail because of how many people that would affect and she would be a pariah and subject to much scorn and abuse or perhaps worse for the rest of her life. She may just want some sort of personal justice and for the aholes at Harrah's to get their just deserves. As for video, lets see what she looked like leaving Roethlisberger's room on the night in question. It's on tape. Everything that happens outside of a bedroom in a casino is on tape.

As for Ben, if there is evidence that he assaulted this woman, and there is evidence more than just her word, he should miss a year or more. We need to punish scumbags that treat woman this way. Ben aint the first one either.

Maybe I am being all chivalrous about this but I was born to believe that when there is smoke there is generally fire. This is pretty smoking if you ask me. I was also born that your not supposed to force women to have sex with you...I don't know, maybe I just had good parents and strong morals.Where did you hear or read she reported it to her boss or anyone? All I have heard is she waited this long.

Blazing Arrow
07-22-2009, 06:21 PM
Where did you hear or read she reported it to her boss or anyone? All I have heard is she waited this long.

She said it in her statement for the case. That is why she has brought them into the case as well.

Second Honeymoon
07-22-2009, 06:22 PM
Where did you hear or read she reported it to her boss or anyone? All I have heard is she waited this long.

I have read the entire court document and there are about 20 different incidents and actions by herself to her superiors and to executive level management at the casino. she was taken out of her job, demoted, written up for being upset, harrassed, threatened, all these things are referenced as it pertains to her trying to get justice without losing her job and making herself a national pariah.

Harrah's completely mishandled her complaint. They did nothing except demean her, break into her home and go through her personal laptop for information and to see how much her and her lawyer had on Big Ben. It's completely crazy the amount of grief Harrah's gave her and how much pressure they put on her not to go to the cops and to let them handle it....and they did nothing except try and cover everything up.

Read the court document and its pretty freaking unreal how much they tried to railroad this woman, allegedly of course. Everyone told her that she was lucky Ben had sex with her (seriously, they said that) and that most girls would be happy. So much dirt and Harrah's is gonna pay for this one.

Ben is just lucky that she doesn't want to be Public Enemy Number One and bring her case in front of the police. Nevada law mandates that there must be a written complaint filed before they (nevada law officials) open up an investigation and they continue to stand by in case this gets ugly.

Blazing Arrow
07-22-2009, 06:37 PM
Suspend his ass! Though I would love to watch him eat turf while covered in two tone blue week one.

gary
07-23-2009, 09:23 AM
Suspend his ass! Though I would love to watch him eat turf while covered in two tone blue week one.I understand where you and SH are coming from and I hope the truth comes out in all of this but I doubt the NFL is going to suspend Ben unless they find out for sure what happend.

swtbound07
07-23-2009, 09:44 AM
until proven to be a nutbag, I'm always going to side with the woman claiming rape. Always.

gary
07-23-2009, 09:54 AM
until proven to be a nutbag, I'm always going to side with the woman claiming rape. Always.I'm not going to side with either one of them untill I know more even though it may seem like I am already on Ben's side I'm not really.

gary
07-23-2009, 10:28 AM
I know this is a civil case and I'm not sure if it would help at all. How a lie detector test for Ben? Are those overatted?

swtbound07
07-23-2009, 10:31 AM
I know this is a civil case and I'm not sure if it would help at all. How a lie detector test for Ben? Are those overatted?

put it this way. i can and have beaten a polygraph to prove a point.

Blazing Arrow
07-23-2009, 10:53 AM
I understand where you and SH are coming from and I hope the truth comes out in all of this but I doubt the NFL is going to suspend Ben unless they find out for sure what happend.

Most of the call for suspension is based on without Big Ben they are starting Batch as there QB. Anything to pigion hole the sqeelers is alright by me.

Texan_Bill
07-23-2009, 10:54 AM
I know this is a civil case and I'm not sure if it would help at all. How a lie detector test for Ben? Are those overatted?

SWT is right. Lie detectors can be beaten. A friend of mine has beaten one, once a year for several years.

gary
07-23-2009, 11:50 AM
put it this way. i can and have beaten a polygraph to prove a point.I know people have beat them but it still might be worth a shot you just never know who might not beat them.

swtbound07
07-23-2009, 12:02 PM
I know people have beat them but it still might be worth a shot you just never know who might not beat them.

The point is that they are inaccurate. How do you know who has beaten them or not? How do you know the result is good?

If it says he is telling the truth, how do you know he didn't beat the test?

If it says he is lying, how do you know the test isn't wrong?

No point in the test. Its too flawed.

gary
07-23-2009, 12:44 PM
We'll never know the truth and that hurts.

Carr Bombed
07-23-2009, 12:48 PM
until proven to be a nutbag, I'm always going to side with the woman claiming rape. Always.

Yeah, except in cases like this........how many times have we heard this kinda story with athletes/celebrities........this is nothing, but a obvious money grab. If the girl was really raped she would've pressed charges, not gone directly for his wallet. :rolleyes: You know people with money are targets too.... and alot of time they are targeted by women like this.

gary
07-23-2009, 12:59 PM
put it this way. i can and have beaten a polygraph to prove a point.

Yeah, except in cases like this........how many times have we heard this kinda story with athletes/celebrities........this is nothing, but a obvious money grab. If the girl was really raped she would've pressed charges, not gone directly for his wallet. :rolleyes: You know people with money are targets too.... and alot of time they are targeted by women like this.I'm not sure if you are being funny here or for real.

Carr Bombed
07-23-2009, 01:11 PM
I'm not sure if you are being funny here or for real.

I'm just very skeptical of this story. I hate Kobe, but I never believed he raped that girl either.

gary
07-23-2009, 01:27 PM
I'm just very skeptical of this story. I hate Kobe, but I never believed he raped that girl either.I am as well too bad we'll never know.

Texaninlild
07-23-2009, 02:20 PM
If she files a criminal report on it and lies, she can go to jail. If she lies and just sues in a civil case, does that keep her out of jail?

Blazing Arrow
07-23-2009, 02:48 PM
Considering the hell the girl who accused Kobe went through I would be a little tentative about pressing legal charges either. The Yahoo article basically told people where she lived. I could see some nut job Steeler fan trying to hunt her down if it happened or not.

GuerillaBlack
07-23-2009, 02:55 PM
I'm just very skeptical of this story. I hate Kobe, but I never believed he raped that girl either.

I'm the same way.

gary
07-23-2009, 03:01 PM
She says the hotel told her to get lost and to be happy that it was Ben. How do we know that is true?

Second Honeymoon
07-23-2009, 09:44 PM
She says the hotel told her to get lost and to be happy that it was Ben. How do we know that is true?

because they didn't open an investigation and in fact badgered and harrassed her even going so far to go through her home and snoop for what type of evidence she had and what she was planning.