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El Tejano
07-16-2009, 10:31 AM
I'm only bringing this up because I was recently looking through my old Oiler stuff. I found this Steve Mcnair rookie card:

http://sportscardinfo.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/card-of-the-day-steve-mcnair-1995-skybox-impact-rc-171/

Mine however is signed. I got it signed by him on the second to last game ever played in the Astrodome against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Steve was hardly known yet and I ran into him on the way to my vehicle after the game (about an hour after the game). I ate chicken and drank a Miller Genuine Draft with Steve on the tailgate of his truck and he signed my card.

With everything happening to Steve over the last week, I am respectfully asking this just because I need to know. As a collector myself you always want to know when a card is hitting it's peak value or if there is a potential for it to increase. The card itself has always been in an engraved plastic frame that says "Steve Mcnair". It only came out when I got Steve to sign it.

What is this card worth. I looked up and down the internet but no price.

Texecutioner
07-16-2009, 11:17 AM
You might want to just lurk around on the web and see. I remember when I was a kid baseball cards were so popular and their were shops all over the place. Now I don't see any of them anywhere. I think the market for sports cards has dipped a bit, but I could certainly be wrong. I know that basketball and football cards were never worth what baseball cards were though. Just check around the web and I'm sure there is a website that should be able to tell you. Cool story though. I can't believe that Mcnair was just sitting outside in the parki9ng lot drinking bear like that. Pretty cool.

El Tejano
07-16-2009, 11:41 AM
Here is how the story goes. This happens to be one of my favorite days of my life and what made losing the Oilers more sad.

As I was angrily leaving the Astrodome, I exited the wrong exit. And since we parked in an entirely different side to begin with, my friend and I found ourselves walking around the Astrodomes with face paint and all Oiler attire looking like a bunch of geeks. However, this turned out to be a blessing in disguise because as we walked around we encountered all Oiler players leaving the locker room and going to their cars where many other fans were just waiting for autographs and stuff. I quickly got Eddie George to sign his rookie card, I took a picture and got an autograph with Al Del Greco. To me, that was cool enough, but then I saw Steve and his crowd around him (like 6 people, he wasn't really a big name then though.).

I go over there (now with some of the face paint wiped off) and I am the last one to get an autograph. As I am waiting and he starts to sign my autograph, his mother and other family members pull up in a car, pop open the trunk and low and behold there is two huge boxes of hot fried chicken and and an ice chest full of Miller Genuine draft. Steve signs the card and then asks me "We got plenty of chicken here. Are you hungry?" I point to myself and look over my shoulders and ask "Me?" He's like "yeah you" and my friend is like "dude we don't have to go back to Austin right away. Eat some frickin chicken!" Then Steve asks me my age, I tell him I'm I just turned 21 and got the tickets for my birthday, he says "happy birthday" pops open a bottle for me and hands it to me. I'm there in awe just trying to see if this is a dream or not. Steve then pulls down the tailgate to his Ford, sits up on top and tells me to have a seat. There we are eating chicken, drinking beer and I told him how much he made my last days as an Oiler fan my best memory.

Some people find this story hard to believe but if you recall, the Oilers players did alot of personal things like that at that time because they were leaving and alot of them went out of their way to show true fans thier grattitude.

The story gets better though.

My friend and I waive bye to Steve and shake hands and we start going back to our car. We finally are almost there when I see the equipment manager fixing a flat tire on his vehicle. I knew who he was because I always used to see this hispanic gentlemen holding the cables to Jerry Glanville and Jack Pardee's headset on the sidelines. I told my friend I was going to say hi and offer help. Well we did help him and I told him that my Dad and I always see him on TV in Austin during the games and we always wish we had his job on Sundays. After talking with him and helping him, he asks "Would you guys like a gameball from the game today?" My friend and I look at each other like "this can't be happening". The gentleman asks us to follow him and we do. Right to the Oiler training facility where only Oiler staff is allowed. He goes into the building and comes out with two game balls. I have that ball to this day and I have pics of me standing in frong of signs that say "Houston Oilers Players and Staff Only".

That was a truely awesome day. When I got home my Dad shows me the VCR tape he recorded that shows me on TV at the game with all face paint and all Oiler gear screaming like a maniac. Awesome!!!!

NitroGSXR
07-16-2009, 11:44 AM
Unfortunately it's only worth a few dollars. Maybe 5 bucks at the most. Ebay is the best guage for a price on this sort of thing.

Vinny
07-16-2009, 11:46 AM
its the art of speculation and the bottom line is simple. If you think that S McNair gets into the HOF then the card will appreciate considerably. Personally I don't have a clue to the value of sports trading cards but I think the only way this card really appreciates much in a "peak" or crest more than it is valued now is with a HOF induction.

El Tejano
07-16-2009, 11:53 AM
its the art of speculation and the bottom line is simple. If you think that S McNair gets into the HOF then the card will appreciate considerably. Personally I don't have a clue to the value of sports trading cards but I think the only way this card really appreciates much in a "peak" or crest more than it is valued now is with a HOF induction.

But Titan fans would love it.

Goldensilence
07-16-2009, 12:00 PM
Forget ebay. I would try something like Beckett.com

NitroGSXR
07-16-2009, 12:08 PM
Forget ebay. I would try something like Beckett.com

Beckett has better prices but all it is is a price guide. Beckett will tell you what you may want to hear but eBay is where everybody is selling them and it also gives you a better indicator of how the market is coming along for specific cards. eBay killed the card shops all around the US. It also killed the value of higher priced cards because now we know they're not as rare as 'they used to be' as indicateds by the millions who have a 1990 UpperDeck Ken Griffey rookie. Card ahops and Beckett were able to lie and inflate prices of sought after cards.

I collected baseball cards for years. Stopped once the internet revolution shutdown card shops all over. Still got them though.

rockabilly
07-16-2009, 12:08 PM
I have about 3 or 4 different McNair rookie cards - so its hard to say which is "THE" rookie card that would have any value.

Texecutioner
07-16-2009, 12:13 PM
I have about 3 or 4 different McNair rookie cards - so its hard to say which is "THE" rookie card that would have any value.

Whichever one has the best brand will be most likely. When i was young Upper Deck and Leaf were the top brands and Topps was like the lowest on the pedastool and always had the ugliest cards, but you could find a pack of Topps pretty much anywhere.

NitroGSXR
07-16-2009, 12:22 PM
Whichever one has the best brand will be most likely. When i was young Upper Deck and Leaf were the top brands and Topps was like the lowest on the pedastool and always had the ugliest cards, but you could find a pack of Topps pretty much anywhere.

Not necessarily true. Bowman are the worst of the bunch in my personal opinion. I hate Bowmans but the 1995 Steve McNair Bowmans Best card is probably the most sough after card. It's got Steve in his Alcorn State jersey.

El Tejano
07-16-2009, 12:22 PM
I saw a guy selling the exact same card on ebay for like 125.00. Wow!

El Tejano
07-16-2009, 12:23 PM
Not necessarily true. Bowman are the worst of the bunch in my personal opinion. I hate Bowmans but the 1995 Steve McNair Bowmans Best card is probably the most sough after card. It's got Steve in his Alcorn State jersey.

So does the one I have.

Blazing Arrow
07-16-2009, 12:24 PM
But Titan fans would love it.

I have pleanty of the cards but what do you want for the memory? :photos:

El Tejano
07-16-2009, 12:27 PM
I have pleanty of the cards but what do you want for the memory? :photos:

Well I got a picture of me with the card, I got video footage of me at the game, and I got the game ball as told earlier in the thread. So I have plenty memorabillia to talk about and proof to show my story is true. I'm thinking there may be a Titan fan that got more out of his career than I did who would appreciate this.

TimeKiller
07-16-2009, 12:52 PM
I wouldn't sell that for anything if I were you....

NitroGSXR
07-16-2009, 01:00 PM
I wouldn't sell that for anything if I were you....

Absolutely concur.

That's a great piece of memorabilia right there. So great that in the right auction, it'd garner a decent amount of money. I'd suggest a card show would be a good start on assessing its value.

Texecutioner
07-16-2009, 01:06 PM
I wouldn't sell that for anything if I were you....

If he can get some good money for it I would.

He can always get some nice blown up Mcnair snap shots somewhere and hang them up and it would most likely be the same thing as having a football card. I've got a few old sports pics in frames and they look pretty good hanging. I've got the old cover of Campbell on the Sports Illustrated hanging in my office. It's really cool, and would look better than having a football card in a case any day. Plus, I've always thought a big autograph on a card looks pretty tacky unless it was on the back or something like that.

gtexan02
07-16-2009, 01:30 PM
Take it on antiques roadshow?

HoustonFrog
07-16-2009, 01:38 PM
Here is how the story goes. .................................................. ............................That was a truely awesome day. When I got home my Dad shows me the VCR tape he recorded that shows me on TV at the game with all face paint and all Oiler gear screaming like a maniac. Awesome!!!!

Thanks for the story. That is awesome!

If you are going to get minimal money for that card, keep it and the memories with the other memorabilia. The story and the cards/ball is something you can always tell family about.

NitroGSXR
07-16-2009, 01:41 PM
Take it on antiques roadshow?

The more exposure one gets for the memorabilia set is good. This is a set that can be sold for a considerable amount of money but there is a small select group of collectors who would be interested in paying a real premium for such an unique piece. Gonna be a lot of work getting the maximum value out of this set.

I'd keep it. That's an amazing memory. I'd never let it go. Not for a couple grand.

El Tejano
07-16-2009, 01:48 PM
I wouldn't sell that for anything if I were you....

I'm not really thinking of selling it, but I'm considering it. I kind of feel like there may be another Titan fan that would get more out of it than I do/did. As an Oiler fan I never got to see Steve be who he became. Since he wasn't an Oiler anymore I lost interest and when he became a division rival I lost more interest. The sentimental value is kind of gone because he doesn't play for my favorite team. I have the other stuff to keep the memory though.

I also figure the card will reach it's highest peak and even if he gets in the hall of fame, that may be years away and the value will only come back up to where it is right now again.

El Tejano
07-16-2009, 01:55 PM
To further explain my feelings about it. I feel like me keeping it is like a Titan fan from Tenn. keeping an Earl Campbell or Warren Moon rookie. There's just no connection except for the story. I got other pieces from that day that can make up for that.

I have an Earl Campbell rookie as well. That, I will never sell. That is going to be a family heir loom and will be in my will.

gtexan02
07-16-2009, 02:04 PM
To further explain my feelings about it. I feel like me keeping it is like a Titan fan from Tenn. keeping an Earl Campbell or Warren Moon rookie. There's just no connection except for the story. I got other pieces from that day that can make up for that.

I have an Earl Campbell rookie as well. That, I will never sell. That is going to be a family heir loom and will be in my will.

It will fetch more as a set with the ball and the story

eriadoc
07-16-2009, 03:31 PM
There's a company (I forget their name) that comes on sports radio about once a year and promotes their shows. They have an annual show in the GRB. They buy and sell at these shows, and they take calls over the air. The one thing worth mentioning about this card is the autograph. The card may only be worth $5, but the auto may tack on some value. Conversely, it may harm the value. I'd ask those guys if I were you.

Second Honeymoon
07-16-2009, 04:23 PM
Beckett has better prices but all it is is a price guide. Beckett will tell you what you may want to hear but eBay is where everybody is selling them and it also gives you a better indicator of how the market is coming along for specific cards. eBay killed the card shops all around the US. It also killed the value of higher priced cards because now we know they're not as rare as 'they used to be' as indicateds by the millions who have a 1990 UpperDeck Ken Griffey rookie. Card ahops and Beckett were able to lie and inflate prices of sought after cards.

I collected baseball cards for years. Stopped once the internet revolution shutdown card shops all over. Still got them though.

very wise words. the comic book shop industry took a hit too but not quite as severe...in some cases some were comicbookshop/baseballcardshop...they got the double whammy

awtysst
07-16-2009, 07:00 PM
Beckett has better prices but all it is is a price guide. Beckett will tell you what you may want to hear but eBay is where everybody is selling them and it also gives you a better indicator of how the market is coming along for specific cards. eBay killed the card shops all around the US. It also killed the value of higher priced cards because now we know they're not as rare as 'they used to be' as indicateds by the millions who have a 1990 UpperDeck Ken Griffey rookie. Card ahops and Beckett were able to lie and inflate prices of sought after cards.

I collected baseball cards for years. Stopped once the internet revolution shutdown card shops all over. Still got them though.

So, I have a Randy Johnson rookie card. I had no idea how much it was worth, but figured being Randy Johnson(a clear HOF player) it had to be worth at least $20-$30. Apparently the same card is selling on EBay right now for $0.99. Guess I won't be able to retire on my baseball card collection!

NitroGSXR
07-16-2009, 07:23 PM
So, I have a Randy Johnson rookie card. I had no idea how much it was worth, but figured being Randy Johnson(a clear HOF player) it had to be worth at least $20-$30. Apparently the same card is selling on EBay right now for $0.99. Guess I won't be able to retire on my baseball card collection!

It's not about the player. I remember back in the day... the most sought after card was not the Griffey nor was it the Gregg Jeffries nor the Ramon Martinez... it was the 1989 Fleer Billy Ripkin error card. I have three. At their highest point, they were worth over 500 dollars. Now that card sells for about 4 or 5 dollars. More than his famous brother, Cal Ripkin Jr who is in the hallowed hall! Billy Ripkin? Who?!

TimeKiller
07-16-2009, 08:14 PM
I don't understand your point really, are you a fan of sports or just a fan of Houston?

It would take a few zeros to get me to sell something like that. Hell, I keep all the ticket stubs from events I have fun at (like Biggio's 3000 hit game, retirement game, MNF ticket or basically any Texans victory, awesome concerts, awesome movies) in a jar. I call it the Karma Jarma.

El Tejano
07-17-2009, 09:48 AM
I don't understand your point really, are you a fan of sports or just a fan of Houston?

It would take a few zeros to get me to sell something like that. Hell, I keep all the ticket stubs from events I have fun at (like Biggio's 3000 hit game, retirement game, MNF ticket or basically any Texans victory, awesome concerts, awesome movies) in a jar. I call it the Karma Jarma.

I'm not a sports fan. My favorite teams are Houston Texans, Houston Rockets and since I'm not that into baseball Houston Astros and Texas Rangers but Astros get first bid. I'm also a Texas Longhorn fan but once they go pro and to a team I don't like I don't really care about any of the players.

Michael Jordan could walk in the door saying he is giving a pair of his game worn championship winning Jordans autographed to the first 5k people in line and I will not get in that line. However, if Hakeem Olajuwon said he is giving autographs on a blank sheet of paper, I'm there.

I'm very loyal to my pro teams. I grew up with those teams (except Texans) so I have more sentimental value in the team vs. other players. When it comes to old Oilers I have more sentimental value in guys like Earl Campbell, Dan Pastorini, Warren Moon, Mike Munchak, Bruce Matthews, Ray Childress.

I know I'm not the only person like that or maybe that's just the old school in me. So I'm assuming there has to be a Titan fan that is like this who would see the value in a card like this. Especially during these times.

False Start
07-17-2009, 10:15 AM
I have his rookie card too. I also have Lamar Lathon, Bubba McDowell, Bo Orlando, William Fuller, Lorenzo White, and a few others that I cant remember off the top of my head. They probably aren't worth anything, but they are one of my favorite possessions. I used to buy packs upon packs just to try and get the whole Oilers team.