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Texans_Chick
06-30-2009, 07:56 AM
Trent Green as a guest columnist at MMQB suggested that TEN quarterbacks would get over 4000 yards. That's a big number. Matt Schaub was suggested as one QB who could do it.

I discuss this in more depth at the TC blog: Does Matt Schaub get +4000 passing yards in 2009? (http://blogs.chron.com/texanschick/2009/06/does_matt_schaub_get_4000_pass.html)

At FanHouse, I put that prediction in context for the rest of the league:Will 10 Quarterbacks Top 4,000 Passing Yards This Season? (http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/06/29/will-ten-quarterbacks-top-4000-passing-yards-this-season/)

I think they are interesting reads if you don't have anything else to do. They were some of the few blog posts I've written where I learned things as I wrote them.

Maddict5
06-30-2009, 08:19 AM
matt will definitely get 4000- once he stays healthy for 16 games

nero THE zero
06-30-2009, 08:20 AM
That's averaging 250yds per game if you play all 16. In this offense, Schaub's more than capable if he can play all 16. So, the question's not really, "can Schaub throw for 4000 yards." He can easily do it if he can stay healthy. Thus, the question is, "can Schuab stay healthy for 16 games."

Texans_Chick
06-30-2009, 08:49 AM
That's averaging 250yds per game if you play all 16. In this offense, Schaub's more than capable if he can play all 16. So, the question's not really, "can Schaub throw for 4000 yards." He can easily do it if he can stay healthy. Thus, the question is, "can Schuab stay healthy for 16 games."

No it goes beyond that.

If the defense plays better, the Texans may not even have to get 4000 yards passing. It's no surprise that a lot of the QBs with the highest pass averages per game were QBs who played with crappy defenses. Brees, Cutler, Schaub.

It will be also interesting to see if the refs end up calling hits on the QB closer next season--if that truly is a point of emphasis.

The low hit on the QB rule was first enacted after Carson Palmer's knee injury. Then Brady went down. Jared Allen gets fined $50,000 for hits on Schaub that weren't even called in the game. After the season, there were talks of rule changes relating to low hits to the QB, but it wasn't a rule change--it is the same rule that was enacted after the Carson Palmer hit. They were talking about actually making that rule a point of emphasis.

Texan_Bill
06-30-2009, 09:00 AM
Not to mention that the rushing is getting better. So no, I don't think Schaub will reach 4,000 unless we really, really suck. In fact, I don't want to see Schaub reach 4,000. Kind of in the same vein that I didn't want Hakeem to score 30+ in a game. The result was usually bad when he did..

eriadoc
06-30-2009, 09:36 AM
I don't care how many yards he gets. The more important number to me, when it comes to QBs, is how many TDs he throws for. Every year, there are more QBs that throw for 4K yards than those who throw for more than 25 TDs. I want to see more than 25 TDs from Matt.

Texan_Bill
06-30-2009, 09:39 AM
I don't care how many yards he gets. The more important number to me, when it comes to QBs, is how many TDs he throws for. Every year, there are more QBs that throw for 4K yards than those who throw for more than 25 TDs. I want to see more than 25 TDs from Matt.

Add to that the number of turnovers. That needs to go way down.

dalemurphy
06-30-2009, 09:48 AM
No it goes beyond that.

If the defense plays better, the Texans may not even have to get 4000 yards passing. It's no surprise that a lot of the QBs with the highest pass averages per game were QBs who played with crappy defenses. Brees, Cutler, Schaub.

It will be also interesting to see if the refs end up calling hits on the QB closer next season--if that truly is a point of emphasis.

The low hit on the QB rule was first enacted after Carson Palmer's knee injury. Then Brady went down. Jared Allen gets fined $50,000 for hits on Schaub that weren't even called in the game. After the season, there were talks of rule changes relating to low hits to the QB, but it wasn't a rule change--it is the same rule that was enacted after the Carson Palmer hit. They were talking about actually making that rule a point of emphasis.

Schaub and Sage combined for about 4500 yards last season. If Schaub plays 16 games and our receiving corp is relatively healthy, it's unlikely he wouldn't top 4000 yards.

Maddict5
06-30-2009, 10:33 AM
No it goes beyond that.

If the defense plays better, the Texans may not even have to get 4000 yards passing. It's no surprise that a lot of the QBs with the highest pass averages per game were QBs who played with crappy defenses. Brees, Cutler, Schaub.



i agree that less passing yards will more than likely mean better D & a better w-l record. however matt wasnt going to sneak over 4000 yds last season if he had stayed healthy; he was going to breeze past it, he was on pace for over 4,600 yds. hell he wouldve gotten 4000 in only 14 games

hopefully we do lose some of those passing yards but we're not going to lose more than 600 yds (13%) of our passing offence

BornOrange
06-30-2009, 10:34 AM
If he can stay healthy, he will definitely be close. However, as others have suggested, an improved defense and a better running game could actually lower our passing yards from last year.

Also, the most important stat for QB's isn't yardage, or TD's, or even TD/Int ratio, but wins. Red zone efficiency and 3rd down efficiency are also more important.

beerlover
06-30-2009, 11:16 AM
I expect his QB rating to be higher. this reflects not so much yardage as it does flawless execution which should translate into more wins. His 92.7 QB rating must improve, hopefully over 100? last year I think Rivers was the only QB to throw at least 4,000 yds. & have a decent rating (105.5). Warner who led Arizona to the Superbowl with 4,526 yds. was prone to throwing key int's so his rating dropped to 96.9, but in the playoffs his QB rating skyied to 112.2 with a 286.6 yds. per game avg. (of course the difference in that Superbowl game was the INT by Harris returned for a TD).

In a nutshell 4,000 yds is possible but attention to ball protection, red zone effeincey & QB rating are all where it counts the most :texflag:

Vinny
06-30-2009, 11:20 AM
I think our offense is going to be possibly the best in the league next season. I think we see lots more Slaton used like Westbrook to really jack up Schaub's totals and completion %. He is going to really put up some big numbers this season now that we have everything in place outside of resolving our back up rb situation. The line, the receivers and the QB have all been in the system long enough and everyone is in the peak of their careers except possibly Brown who still has to prove he can stay on the field and play at a high level on every snap.

FirstTexansFan
06-30-2009, 12:56 PM
Just a quick thanks to all the posters in this thread. Every posting articulate, and well thought out. I feel truly blessed as a fan to have these boards to come to for my Texans fix. There isn't a better source of information out there.

Bull
06-30-2009, 01:36 PM
Watch the offensive line that will tell the story............

Texecutioner
06-30-2009, 02:18 PM
Trent Green as a guest columnist at MMQB suggested that TEN quarterbacks would get over 4000 yards. That's a big number. Matt Schaub was suggested as one QB who could do it.

I discuss this in more depth at the TC blog: Does Matt Schaub get +4000 passing yards in 2009? (http://blogs.chron.com/texanschick/2009/06/does_matt_schaub_get_4000_pass.html)

At FanHouse, I put that prediction in context for the rest of the league:Will 10 Quarterbacks Top 4,000 Passing Yards This Season? (http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/06/29/will-ten-quarterbacks-top-4000-passing-yards-this-season/)

I think they are interesting reads if you don't have anything else to do. They were some of the few blog posts I've written where I learned things as I wrote them.

If he plays 16 games TC, I think he can do it.

Ryan
06-30-2009, 02:47 PM
the only number i care about is the total amount of W's.:fans:

Polo
06-30-2009, 03:15 PM
I don't think that Matt will reach the 4,000 mark, but I do think that our offense in general will be really productive...

The only way I think Matt reaches that plateau is if our defense really sucks, or if we are constantly playing other high powered offenses...

Hooston Texan
06-30-2009, 03:43 PM
Last year, Texan QBs threw for over 4400 yards while playing a quarter of their games against the three nastiest defenses in the league: the Titans, Steelers and Ravens. Plus we had 3 other games against teams that finished in the top ten against the pass (Indy and Oakland).

This year the only teams we face that were in the 2008 top-ten against the pass are Indy, Tennessee and Oakland. The Titans are obviously the most formidable of that group, but the loss of a motivated Fat Albert will hurt them big time. Meanwhile, Indy and Oakland play the pass well, but they are not exactly nightmare-inspiring (well, except for whichever WR draws Asomogha).

I think that, with the current personnel, we will maintain our downfield passing attack. We have the weapons to attack the intermediate zones, and I don't see us being afraid to use them--especially now that our running game is more than an afterthought. If Schaub plays 16 games, he'll get 4000.

badboy
06-30-2009, 04:24 PM
I think Matt will throw for 3 TDs by end of 3rd quarter and running backs will get at least one more. We will get a defensive TD at least every other game.

Goatcheese
06-30-2009, 07:13 PM
I think he will almost certainly go over 4,000. What I really want to see is 30+ TDs and 10 or fewer picks. I definitely think he's capable of it with this offensive scheme, and the weapons they've surrounded him with.

thunderkyss
06-30-2009, 07:34 PM
First of all, I think it's ridculo... ridecul.. ridicul... insane, to think 10 QBs will pass for over 4000 yards in 2009.

Secondly, I hope Matt doesn't.

I hope we'll play like the Bronco's, who would jump to an early lead, then run the clock out on the ground. I hope we have over 2000 rushing yards. I hope our defense keeps the other guys out of the end zone, and our offense methodically and efficiently score on every possession.

Not to say I wouldn't mind a "Greatest Show on Turf" offense, or a high scoring "Colts" type offense.

I'll agree we're closer to those offenses than the Bronco's, so It's possible for Schaub to break 4000 yards.....

But 10 ?

No way.

SteveSlaton20
06-30-2009, 07:43 PM
ridiculous*

Maddict5
12-28-2009, 12:57 PM
matt will definitely get 4000- once he stays healthy for 16 games

i agree that less passing yards will more than likely mean better D & a better w-l record. however matt wasnt going to sneak over 4000 yds last season if he had stayed healthy; he was going to breeze past it, he was on pace for over 4,600 yds. hell he wouldve gotten 4000 in only 14 games

hopefully we do lose some of those passing yards but we're not going to lose more than 600 yds (13%) of our passing offence

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