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gtexan02
06-19-2009, 01:15 PM
From ESPN Insider:
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/news/story?id=4269904

Anyone who still thinks A Davis was just as good as AJ should read this:

7. Andre Johnson, WR, Texans

We could just list the wide receivers whom Johnson has spent his career playing across from, but that doesn't quantify just how important Johnson's presence is to making the Texans' offense work. Instead, we'll look back to 2007, when Johnson was on the shelf for seven games. Their passing DVOA was 11th in the league with Johnson in the lineup and 19th without, but he had an even bigger impact on the running game; the Texans actually had the fifth-best rushing DVOA in football when Johnson was around, falling to 28th when he was injured. Think he keeps a safety or two occupied?

Am I allowed to post this?

eriadoc
06-19-2009, 01:26 PM
I think he should be higher than 7th. IMO, only Manning and Brady are more irreplaceable.

If those really are your new plates, I am very disappointed. You should have used these plates:

http://rts.texasonline.state.tx.us/NASApp/txdotrts/specialplateorder/jsp/special_plate_image.jsp?imageData=aced000573720033 7478646f747274732e7370656369616c706c6174656f726465 722e646174612e5370656369616c506c74496d616765446174 615d0cb03d74859f7f0200085a000c6362436f766572506c74 4e6f490008636948656967687449000d6369496d6167654865 6967687449000c6369496d6167655769647468490008636953 74617274584900086369537461727459490007636957696474 684c000a6373496d61676555524c7400124c6a6176612f6c61 6e672f537472696e673b7870000000004b000000930000012c 0000006c00000029000000b474002b2f696d616765732f6170 70732f7478646f747274732f7674722f706c617465732f7465 78616e732e6a7067

gtexan02
06-19-2009, 01:59 PM
Bb01b?

Texecutioner
06-19-2009, 02:22 PM
I don't think 7th is bad at all. I mean there are so many positions where there are great irreplaceable players on each team.

Troy Polumolu and Ed Reed are irreplaceable no question as safeties.

Mario and Jared Allen are irreplaceable as DE's.

Brady, Brees, and Manning are irreplaceable as QB's.

There are several irreplaceable O lineman.

This is hard to rank.

nero THE zero
06-19-2009, 02:52 PM
Who ever thought AD was as good as AJ?

gtexan02
06-19-2009, 03:06 PM
Who ever thought AD was as good as AJ?

If you followed the board back then, there were quite a few. I can recall at least a few from the "All your eggs in one basket" thread as well

For example

Actually, Andre Davis did replace AJ and did a fine job.

nero THE zero
06-19-2009, 03:10 PM
If you followed the board back then, there were quite a few. I can recall at least a few from the "All your eggs in one basket" thread as well

For example

I've followed the board since before Andre Davis was ever here. I don't recall anyone ever saying AD is as good as AJ. Saying that he did a fine job in AJ's stead is not the same as saying he is as good as AJ. That's not to say some troll didn't make a silly statement like that. We've seen that. But, to act like that was some sort of prevelent idea is inaccruate.

eriadoc
06-19-2009, 03:17 PM
Bb01b?

No, not the text - the plate.

pbat488
06-19-2009, 03:18 PM
I think he should be higher than 7th. IMO, only Manning and Brady are more irreplaceable.

If those really are your new plates, I am very disappointed. You should have used these plates:

http://rts.texasonline.state.tx.us/NASApp/txdotrts/specialplateorder/jsp/special_plate_image.jsp?imageData=aced000573720033 7478646f747274732e7370656369616c706c6174656f726465 722e646174612e5370656369616c506c74496d616765446174 615d0cb03d74859f7f0200085a000c6362436f766572506c74 4e6f490008636948656967687449000d6369496d6167654865 6967687449000c6369496d6167655769647468490008636953 74617274584900086369537461727459490007636957696474 684c000a6373496d61676555524c7400124c6a6176612f6c61 6e672f537472696e673b7870000000004b000000930000012c 0000006c00000029000000b474002b2f696d616765732f6170 70732f7478646f747274732f7674722f706c617465732f7465 78616e732e6a7067

Bb01b?

i'm guessing he means the Texans logo thing, not the actual digits/letters.

gtexan02
06-19-2009, 03:19 PM
I've followed the board since before Andre Davis was ever here. I don't recall anyone ever saying AD is as good as AJ. Saying that he did a fine job in AJ's stead is not the same as saying he is as good as AJ. That's not to say some troll didn't make a silly statement like that. We've seen that. But, to act like that was some sort of prevelent idea is inaccruate.

Not sure why you are taking this quite so literally. I dont think anyone would ever say that the two are exactly equal--thats crazy. I was implying that I remember, and still see, some posts doubting AJ's irreplaceability because of Andre Davis' performance in during the 2007 season. Thats what this thread is about

texasguy346
06-19-2009, 03:20 PM
No, not the text - the plate.


I believe gtexan lives in Virginia or somewhere in that area. Might be hard to find one of those plates up there. :cowboy1:

gtexan02
06-19-2009, 03:21 PM
I believe gtexan lives in Virginia or somewhere in that area. Might be hard to find one of those plates up there. :cowboy1:

I do indeed! Maybe I should have included that in the photo...ok, changed it

Something sad happened to me only a short while after I got the plates.... someone actually asked me what the "Toxins" were. :(

We need more national media coverage...

eriadoc
06-19-2009, 03:22 PM
i believe gtexan lives in virginia or somewhere in that area. Might be hard to find one of those plates up there. :cowboy1:

fail!

:D

Hardcore Texan
06-19-2009, 03:30 PM
How do you get some of those Texans plates?

badboy
06-19-2009, 03:37 PM
If you followed the board back then, there were quite a few. I can recall at least a few from the "All your eggs in one basket" thread as well

For examplegtexan need to improve your reading skills. The quote of mine said he did a fine job and he did. Never said he was AJ equal. The entire point of my thread was which one player could not be replaced and the team be successful. My choice was QB Matt Schaub. If AJ goes out this year, Aj has a decent replacement. Productivity not the same but does not immediately regulate team to "uh oh" status. Schaub goes out for season and we have a 2nd stringer with little more than potential (though I like him) and Rex Grossman that no other team wanted. Again, I never said AD= AJ.

CloakNNNdagger
06-19-2009, 04:07 PM
How do you get some of those Texans plates?


This should help:

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Insideop
06-19-2009, 04:48 PM
gtexan need to improve your reading skills. The quote of mine said he did a fine job and he did. Never said he was AJ equal. The entire point of my thread was which one player could not be replaced and the team be successful. My choice was QB Matt Schaub. If AJ goes out this year, Aj has a decent replacement. Productivity not the same but does not immediately regulate team to "uh oh" status. Schaub goes out for season and we have a 2nd stringer with little more than potential (though I like him) and Rex Grossman that no other team wanted. Again, I never said AD= AJ.

:popcorn: Keep it going boys! It's a long off season with nothing left to do but :pirate: and :deadhorse! :D

gtexan02
06-19-2009, 05:35 PM
gtexan need to improve your reading skills. The quote of mine said he did a fine job and he did. Never said he was AJ equal. The entire point of my thread was which one player could not be replaced and the team be successful. My choice was QB Matt Schaub. If AJ goes out this year, Aj has a decent replacement. Productivity not the same but does not immediately regulate team to "uh oh" status. Schaub goes out for season and we have a 2nd stringer with little more than potential (though I like him) and Rex Grossman that no other team wanted. Again, I never said AD= AJ.

Before flinging around insults to others reading skills, maybe you should check yours. I said just a few posts (5) above yours:

Not sure why you are taking this quite so literally. I dont think anyone would ever say that the two are exactly equal--thats crazy. I was implying that I remember, and still see, some posts doubting AJ's irreplaceability because of Andre Davis' performance in during the 2007 season. Thats what this thread is about

Texans_Chick
06-19-2009, 06:03 PM
I would never ever want something to happen to AJ.

That being said, the Texans of 2007 are likely a little different than the Texans of today. Because of:

Another year for Schaub and rest of offense
Steve Slaton
Alex Gibbs

I hope to never have to find out how irreplaceable AJ is.

Polo
06-19-2009, 11:59 PM
I think that because of the offensive scheme we run we can get by with back up players in some spots more easily than other teams can.

I think all this irreplaceable stuff is just for arguments sake. AJ is a beast. I'll wait to quantify how much of a beast he til he retires.

Vinny
06-20-2009, 02:28 PM
I would never ever want something to happen to AJ.


I hope to never have to find out how irreplaceable AJ is.
as long as the team rises into the playoffs and wins a game or two there, he will be our first HOF player.

TexansFanatic
06-20-2009, 02:39 PM
as long as the team rises into the playoffs and wins a game or two there, he will be our first HOF player.

What about Carr? :shades:

gtexan02
06-20-2009, 02:43 PM
He said Fame, not shame :)

SteveSlaton20
06-20-2009, 02:45 PM
Can you post the whole list?

I don't have insider.

Vinny
06-20-2009, 02:47 PM
Can you post the whole list?

I don't have insider.we only allow you to post a "tease" and a link to insider...sorry pards. I can't control what goes on behind the PM's though...just sayin'

False Start
06-20-2009, 02:53 PM
as long as the team rises into the playoffs and wins a game or two there, he will be our first HOF player.

That is going to be an awesome sight! :texflag:

Yankee_In_TX
06-20-2009, 03:03 PM
If you followed the board back then, there were quite a few. I can recall at least a few from the "All your eggs in one basket" thread as well

For example

*me*

I said we had so many friggin' problems that we were putting WAY too much on AJ being back on the field changing the way the defense plays. I said he's our best player, but 1 guy CANNOT make that much difference.

I admittedly eat crow every time that topic comes up.