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ObsiWan
06-03-2009, 04:39 PM
From the Sporting News (http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=555600)...
this is the kind of mindset I like to hear from our leaders


"I play this game of football for only one reason and that's to win," Johnson said Monday. "I don't play it for anything else. When you go over guys' careers (http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=555600#), of all the former guys that have played, the first question they ask is how many Super Bowls have they won."

"So that's my goal. To win as many Super Bowls as I can before my time is up."

...


Johnson and Schaub often talk about their goal of making the playoffs, but Johnson said that talk is getting redundant.

"We talk about it, but it doesn't really matter if you don't put it out on the field," Johnson said. "We know what we have to do. It's not a secret. It's crazy to just keep talking about it all the time when it's not happening. It's on both of our minds and we know where we want to be."

Johnson believes the first step in reaching that goal is to get off to a better start than they did last season. The Texans started 0-4 after their schedule was rearranged by Hurricane Ike and they had to take a bye in Week 2 and play their first three games on the road.
"When you look at that I think that was the biggest thing," Johnson said. "We started off in the hole. We can't do what we did last year, 0-4 that's not a great thing."

gtexan02
06-03-2009, 04:43 PM
I admire Johnson for his loyalty. I am glad to hear him have such a single mindset. It means he would have moved on if he didn't think the team was moving in the right direction

TexansFanatic
06-03-2009, 04:50 PM
This is my favorite part of the piece:

"As he sweats through the third week of Houston's organized practices, he's often smiling. He likes the look of the team so far and is excited about the season despite the opener being more than three months away. "

Johnson knows this team is ready to win.

Can't wait!

RipTraxx
06-03-2009, 04:54 PM
And this is partly b/c of a 28 year old OC........

We need to hold on to lil shanny as long as we can.

barrett
06-03-2009, 05:18 PM
Kubiak said in his 610 interview that he doesn't expect Shanny to be around very long. I'd hate to loose him. I don't think he's the genius in the system. It's Kubiak and Shanny Sr.'s baby but he's got the blood line and I like his contrast to Kubiak. I think they are good together. Kubiak's comments got me thinking...

Lets say we loose Shanahan in the next 2 seasons. I'm looking at our staff and I'm wondering where the next successor is coming from. I believe the Texans subscribe to the Indy line of thinking that we promote from within for the most part. So, who's to follow? I know there were alot of offensive coaches in Denver that werent retained when they hired that chump McDaniels. I wonder what ever came of them? I wonder who on our staff would fill that role if Shannahan were to leave?

I assume that if we make it deep into the playoffs in the next two years we can expect him to go by by. expecially if his Dad comes back.


Oh, and Johnson is coming out of his shell. Anybody notice this?

m5kwatts
06-03-2009, 06:24 PM
And this is partly b/c of a 28 year old OC........

We need to hold on to lil shanny as long as we can.

I've thought about the fact that since NFL teams are going with younger and younger head coaches and the fact that he has coaching bloodlines, its very possible he could be interviewing for head coaching jobs next offseason. I guess it all depends on how well the offense does, if it gets even better I think he'll be a pretty hot candidate. Heck, even Jason Garrett got interviews with the Lions and Rams after his cowboys offense got even worse last year.

BeatDaTitans
06-03-2009, 06:43 PM
Look I'm fifteen and live in Tennessee we have to go to the super bowl and shut up these darn Titan fans.....they are all saying that we arent even a threat we are going to beat them.....God Bless The Houston Texans...... I say if Andre is tired of losing and being a push over team then its gameover for the rest of the NFL, Steve will produce again, Andre is Andre he does what he does, We need to protect Matt Shaub and the football. And finally we could have a defense so I hope that we dont just talk bout anymore....

Hardcore Texan
06-03-2009, 06:56 PM
Lil Shanny will not be ready to be a HC in the next 2 seasons IMO. I think he needs at least another 4 and it wouldn't hurt to have more. That doesn't mean someone does pursue him though if we go deep in the playoffs for a couple of years straight.

As to the original topic of the article, this why AJ is one of my favorite Texans.....well that and he's a badass.

TexansSeminole
06-03-2009, 07:29 PM
they are all saying that we arent even a threat we are going to beat them.....

I absolutely LOVE it when I hear this kind of stuff. Not so much in the past, but last 2 seasons I loved it. Most people don't know a whole lot about the Texans, and when their team gets beaten by the Texans they really do look very sad.

I live in Tallahassee, Florida. During the 2007 season, we were playing the Dolphins and as you can imagine there are tons of Dolphins fans in the sports bar. I am the only Texans fan in the place, and there are alot of Dolphins fans talking crap to me, including my own friends. The game was on all of the big screens, and the commentary was blaring through the speakers throughout the place despite the bar having every other game on other smaller TVs. I sat front and center at the largest screen in the place and got very loud with chants of "3 and 0" when Kris Brown hit that game winning field goal. It was very fun to shut up 20+ Dolphins fans. I did, however, high tail it out of there pretty quickly as I realized that I was in a pretty vulnerable situation.

Last year there weren't a whole lot of Dolphins fans talking crap to me. Honestly, I think they have gained respect for us over the years. Eventually all teams' fans will. Until then, enjoy the crap-talking, it can make it alot more fun when the Texans win.

TheRealJoker
06-03-2009, 07:41 PM
I absolutely LOVE it when I hear this kind of stuff. Not so much in the past, but last 2 seasons I loved it. Most people don't know a whole lot about the Texans, and when their team gets beaten by the Texans they really do look very sad.

I live in Tallahassee, Florida. During the 2007 season, we were playing the Dolphins and as you can imagine there are tons of Dolphins fans in the sports bar. I am the only Texans fan in the place, and there are alot of Dolphins fans talking crap to me, including my own friends. The game was on all of the big screens, and the commentary was blaring through the speakers throughout the place despite the bar having every other game on other smaller TVs. I sat front and center at the largest screen in the place and got very loud with chants of "3 and 0" when Kris Brown hit that game winning field goal. It was very fun to shut up 20+ Dolphins fans. I did, however, high tail it out of there pretty quickly as I realized that I was in a pretty vulnerable situation.

Last year there weren't a whole lot of Dolphins fans talking crap to me. Honestly, I think they have gained respect for us over the years. Eventually all teams' fans will. Until then, enjoy the crap-talking, it can make it alot more fun when the Texans win.

Why would any Dolphins fan talk crap during that pathetic season they had?

TexansSeminole
06-03-2009, 07:57 PM
Why would any Dolphins fan talk crap during that pathetic season they had?

Because we are the Texans. Believe it or not, everybody talks crap about the Texans. Maybe not last year, but prior to last year.

Second Honeymoon
06-03-2009, 09:11 PM
Lil' Shanny and Kubiak both need to improve our performance on 3rd Down and Short and in Goal Line situations. Don't get me wrong. The current regime has done a good job putting a good offensive product on the field. They have shown the ability to move the ball and aren't afraid to try and catch a defense with their pants down. They just turn the ball over and have too many 'wtf' playcalls in critical situations. Obviously clock management hasn't been a strong suit either. I'm just saying, lets actually win some meaningful football games before we get too excited about all the preseason prognostications or worry about coaches leaving.

I remember what happened after the 7-9 year in Year 3. 4 of those 7 wins were against bad divisional foes (jags/titans) and the other wins were against a poor Raiders, poor Dolphins, and the other one was the game that the Texans defense singlehandedly won against the Steelers. Carr and the Texans had like 60 yards total offense and somehow the defense willed it to victory.

We played like crap in the games that mattered that year and that pretty much happened last year too. We won a few games but only when the season was already over and nothing to play for (and other teams with little to nothing to play for)

If we start 0-4 again like last year, Kubiak better refresh his resume because his seat would be as hot as it gets.

Back to OT, In Andre We Trust. Best professional football player in Houston since Bruce Matthews, Mike Munchak, and Ray Childress.

JCTexan
06-03-2009, 10:16 PM
Lil' Shanny and Kubiak both need to improve our performance on 3rd Down and Short and in Goal Line situations. Don't get me wrong. The current regime has done a good job putting a good offensive product on the field. They have shown the ability to move the ball and aren't afraid to try and catch a defense with their pants down. They just turn the ball over and have too many 'wtf' playcalls in critical situations. Obviously clock management hasn't been a strong suit either. I'm just saying, lets actually win some meaningful football games before we get too excited about all the preseason prognostications or worry about coaches leaving.

I remember what happened after the 7-9 year in Year 3. 4 of those 7 wins were against bad divisional foes (jags/titans) and the other wins were against a poor Raiders, poor Dolphins, and the other one was the game that the Texans defense singlehandedly won against the Steelers. Carr and the Texans had like 60 yards total offense and somehow the defense willed it to victory.

We played like crap in the games that mattered that year and that pretty much happened last year too. We won a few games but only when the season was already over and nothing to play for (and other teams with little to nothing to play for)

If we start 0-4 again like last year, Kubiak better refresh his resume because his seat would be as hot as it gets.

Back to OT, In Andre We Trust. Best professional football player in Houston since Bruce Matthews, Mike Munchak, and Ray Childress.

The Texans seven wins in 2004 were against Kansas City, Oakland, Tennessee (twice), Jacksonville (twice), & Chicago. The Pittsburgh win was in 2002.

Carr Bombed
06-03-2009, 11:12 PM
I absolutely LOVE it when I hear this kind of stuff. Not so much in the past, but last 2 seasons I loved it. Most people don't know a whole lot about the Texans, and when their team gets beaten by the Texans they really do look very sad.

I live in Tallahassee, Florida. During the 2007 season, we were playing the Dolphins and as you can imagine there are tons of Dolphins fans in the sports bar. I am the only Texans fan in the place, and there are alot of Dolphins fans talking crap to me, including my own friends. The game was on all of the big screens, and the commentary was blaring through the speakers throughout the place despite the bar having every other game on other smaller TVs. I sat front and center at the largest screen in the place and got very loud with chants of "3 and 0" when Kris Brown hit that game winning field goal. It was very fun to shut up 20+ Dolphins fans. I did, however, high tail it out of there pretty quickly as I realized that I was in a pretty vulnerable situation.

Last year there weren't a whole lot of Dolphins fans talking crap to me. Honestly, I think they have gained respect for us over the years. Eventually all teams' fans will. Until then, enjoy the crap-talking, it can make it alot more fun when the Texans win.

How about his...

At the time of our inaugural season I lived up in Dallas and had to listen to months of **** talking since the schedule came out and everybody saw the first game of the year was Houston vs Dallas in primetime. I got so PO'd (alot of those idiots actually thought Campo was taking them on a deep playoff run with crackhead Carter, remember that year they were like the first "hard knocks TV" team) that I just started making bets with all of them. I didn't say one word all summer, but as soon as I rolled in for work that next morning I was grinning from ear to ear and every idiot that felt the need to pop off at the mouth all summer suddenly didn't have a thing to say.

Would it have been the classy (Houston) thing to talk crap, stoop to their level, and return the favor of what I went through all summer......no, but I made a exception, because that's exactly what I did. :cool: I took a piece of their paychecks and I let them all have it for a few weeks.....some of them for the remainder of the season. (that year they only won 1 more game than we did) I wasn't that popular after that, but I didn't care I HATED LIVING IN DALLAS (I never felt comfortable there......hate that city) So I moved back where I belonged. Dallas Sucks... Most Cowboy fans (not all, because they're was a few intelligent ones) are just "snobs" who act like they have some sort of entitlement.

Vinny
06-04-2009, 10:26 AM
And this is partly b/c of a 28 year old OC........

We need to hold on to lil shanny as long as we can.at the end of the day this is Kubiak's offense. I see Shanny as an interchangeable part. It wouldn't worry me to lose him, not that I'm looking for him to go anywhere.

Second Honeymoon
06-04-2009, 04:55 PM
The Texans seven wins in 2004 were against Kansas City, Oakland, Tennessee (twice), Jacksonville (twice), & Chicago. The Pittsburgh win was in 2002.

i thought dunta played in the pittsburgh win where we only had like 50ish yards offense. was it glenn who made all those plays at DB?

Well it was a bad KC team instead of a bad Miami team and I don't remember much about the Chicago win obviously.

infantrycak
06-04-2009, 05:51 PM
i thought dunta played in the pittsburgh win where we only had like 50ish yards offense. was it glenn who made all those plays at DB?

Well it was a bad KC team instead of a bad Miami team and I don't remember much about the Chicago win obviously.

It was 2002 and Aaron Glenn. Set an NFL record with only 47 yards of offense (20 minutes of time of possession) in a win. Glenn made it to the pro bowl on the back of that performance. 21 of 24 points scored on three turnover returns for TD's by the D.

The Chicago win was an interesting up and down game. Doing pretty well in the coldest game of the year then the OL started giving up the ghost, Carr went into a hissy fit at the OL and then they managed to finish the game out.

Second Honeymoon
06-04-2009, 07:22 PM
It was 2002 and Aaron Glenn. Set an NFL record with only 47 yards of offense (20 minutes of time of possession) in a win. Glenn made it to the pro bowl on the back of that performance. 21 of 24 points scored on three turnover returns for TD's by the D.

The Chicago win was an interesting up and down game. Doing pretty well in the coldest game of the year then the OL started giving up the ghost, Carr went into a hissy fit at the OL and then they managed to finish the game out.

i hear ya. my memory isn't what it used to be plus I have kinda blocked that era of Texans football from my mind. almost unwatchable at times.

wasn't that pre-roethlisberger? the steelers game that is. didn't they draft Ben the following offseason after that embarassment at Heinz?

infantrycak
06-04-2009, 07:29 PM
wasn't that pre-roethlisberger? the steelers game that is. didn't they draft Ben the following offseason after that embarassment at Heinz?

2004 was Ben's first season.

TexansFanatic
06-04-2009, 10:35 PM
It was 2002 and Aaron Glenn. Set an NFL record with only 47 yards of offense (20 minutes of time of possession) in a win. Glenn made it to the pro bowl on the back of that performance. 21 of 24 points scored on three turnover returns for TD's by the D.


That win was so satisfying for us Pittsburgh haters. We got our butts beaten up and down the field and still won. :laughjump:

barrett
06-05-2009, 12:52 AM
Lil Shanny will not be ready to be a HC in the next 2 seasons IMO. I think he needs at least another 4 and it wouldn't hurt to have more. That doesn't mean someone does pursue him though if we go deep in the playoffs for a couple of years straight.

As to the original topic of the article, this why AJ is one of my favorite Texans.....well that and he's a badass.

All that may be true but that doesn't mean the we would get to keep him. If and when his dad decides to coach again I would expect him to go one of two routes. Either he would do the Texans thing and say "I wish my dad all the success up in Dallas but Coach Kubiak gave me my chance and my job is here with the Texans."

or,

He'd thank Kubiak for his help and split to help his dad.

Carr Bombed
06-05-2009, 02:39 AM
at the end of the day this is Kubiak's offense. I see Shanny as an interchangeable part. It wouldn't worry me to lose him, not that I'm looking for him to go anywhere.


Exactly...Mike "Shanny" is the only head coach (if he comes back) that is going to be able to take him from us. (unless somebody wants to give a new OC and a young guy fresh behind the ears a head coaching job....don't see that happening).

Just like how everybody around the league thought Kubiak was just a glorified QB coach with the OC label for many years around the league (despite that he was qualifed to be given a chance), the same thing is true with Kyle. People around the league knows Gary likes to dominate the play calling on Sundays and is given the final call over the final play with Kyle.....Mike did the same thing with Gary and many teams knew it and used that fact against him for years.

If Kyle leaves this team it's to join his dad's staff only to be his dad's OC (because the only way this guy becomes a HC is if we win the SB in the next couple of years...the guy still has to put in his work as a coordinator like Gary did, before anybody will take him seriously as a HC) and it's not a sure fire thing that his dad even wants to get back in the thing at his age.

HJam72
06-05-2009, 04:54 AM
Exactly...Mike "Shanny" is the only head coach (if he comes back) that is going to be able to take him from us. (unless somebody wants to give a new OC and a young guy fresh behind the ears a head coaching job....don't see that happening).

Just like how everybody around the league thought Kubiak was just a glorified QB coach with the OC label for many years around the league (despite that he was qualifed to be given a chance), the same thing is true with Kyle. People around the league knows Gary likes to dominate the play calling on Sundays and is given the final call over the final play with Kyle.....Mike did the same thing with Gary and many teams knew it and used that fact against him for years.

If Kyle leaves this team it's to join his dad's staff only to be his dad's OC (because the only way this guy becomes a HC is if we win the SB in the next couple of years...the guy still has to put in his work as a coordinator like Gary did, before anybody will take him seriously as a HC) and it's not a sure fire thing that his dad even wants to get back in the thing at his age.

Dang, we better start lookin' for another one. :fans:

thunderkyss
06-05-2009, 05:31 AM
It was 2002 and Aaron Glenn. Set an NFL record with only 47 yards of offense (20 minutes of time of possession) in a win. Glenn made it to the pro bowl on the back of that performance. 21 of 24 points scored on three turnover returns for TD's by the D.

The Chicago win was an interesting up and down game. Doing pretty well in the coldest game of the year then the OL started giving up the ghost, Carr went into a hissy fit at the OL and then they managed to finish the game out.

I wish I could remember football games with this kind of detail through the years.

I love football, & I've seen some great games.


But I can't remember crap

dalemurphy
06-05-2009, 05:37 AM
All that may be true but that doesn't mean the we would get to keep him. If and when his dad decides to coach again I would expect him to go one of two routes. Either he would do the Texans thing and say "I wish my dad all the success up in Dallas but Coach Kubiak gave me my chance and my job is here with the Texans."

or,

He'd thank Kubiak for his help and split to help his dad.

I seriously doubt he goes anywhere, especially to work for Daddy, without a promotion. Since he is our OC and is going to be the primary playcaller, a promotion would be Head Coach. I would be surprised if he had an opportunity to become a head coach in the next 4 years or so.

The only organization that I know would hire a 29 year old as a head coach would be the Raiders. And, given the history of Shanny Sr. and the Raiders, I don't think that will happen.

barrett
06-11-2009, 11:39 PM
I agree that he would only leave for a promotion, UNLESS it was to work with his father. I think that would be a reasonable lateral move.