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ObsiWan
05-26-2009, 01:08 PM
From TSN (http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=552520)...


Tackles are the stat of choice for the guys who play in the middle of the field. But more and more, middle linebackers, particularly in Tampa-2 schemes, are asked to play more in coverage, so their ability to diagnose plays quickly becomes more critical. Inside linebackers generally are the smartest and most instinctive players on the defensive side of the ball.

1. Brian Urlacher, Bears
2. Patrick Willis, Niners
3. Karlos Dansby, Cardinals
4. Ray Lewis, Ravens
5. Jon Beason, Panthers

6. DeMeco Ryans, Texans. Ryans' tackle numbers have gone down in each of his three seasons, but he still is highly productive. He is great at diagnosing plays and gets to the ball quickly. He is an outstanding athlete with great range and instincts.

7. James (I ain't goin' to no stoopid White House) Farrior, Steelers
8. E. J. Henderson, Vikings
9. Barrett Rudd, Buccs
10. Kirk Morrison, Raiders
11. Antonio Pierce, Giants
12. Bart Scott, Jets
13. A. J. Hawk, Packers
14. London Fletcher, Redskins
15. D'Qwell (what kinda freakin name is that?!?) Jackson, Browns
16. Jerod (not to be confused with Col. Mustard) Mayo, Patriots
17. Nick Barnett, Packers
18. Curtis Lofton, Falcons
19. Paul Posluszny, Bills
20. Jonathan Vilma, Saints

HOU-TEX
05-26-2009, 01:11 PM
Harrison was the one who refused to go to the White House.

mexican_texan
05-26-2009, 01:22 PM
I don't think Barrett Ruud is THAT much better than Jerod Mayo.

RipTraxx
05-26-2009, 01:59 PM
I don't think Barrett Ruud is THAT much better than Jerod Mayo.

I dont think Dansby is better then Ryans. I may be biased, but i've seen both play and there is no way...pure atheleticism, ok. But not production.

mexican_texan
05-26-2009, 02:07 PM
I dont think Dansby is better then Ryans. I may be biased, but i've seen both play and there is no way...pure atheleticism, ok. But not production.
Most media monkeys don't bother doing research. They don't know DeMeco was injured, they saw Karlos Dansby in the Super Bowl. Hell, you can't bother them to actually watch regular season games.

Maddict5
05-26-2009, 04:45 PM
ej henderson & demeco should be above beason

TimeKiller
05-26-2009, 05:42 PM
I can't believe Ray Lewis is ranked that high but I don't disagree with the list overall.

I just realized, our LB corp could be Ryans - Willis - Cushing right now. Seriously. I expect a lot from Okoye this year.

dalemurphy
05-26-2009, 05:48 PM
ej henderson & demeco should be above beason

Umm, no. Beason has become a great player, IMO. Also, his tackle numbers are inhibited by the fact that the Panthers' official scorer credits very few assists. The Texans, on the other hand, are very generous with assisted tackle credits, which helps inflate Demeco's statistics.

I think Demeco is very good and it's kind of a silly exercise to rank him. He's better than most and I doubt that I'd trade him for more than 1 or 2 guys on that list.

dalemurphy
05-26-2009, 05:50 PM
I dont think Dansby is better then Ryans. I may be biased, but i've seen both play and there is no way...pure atheleticism, ok. But not production.

Dansby is a great player! He's been limited by injuries but he does so many things well. He's good in coverage, he's a good pass rusher and blitzer, and a strong tackler with very good speed and size.

ATXtexanfan
05-26-2009, 06:38 PM
demeco's tackle numbers are down because he's not the "only one" that can tackle now. dude doesn't miss alot in the open field. hard to argue with the list. like to see tackle numbers spread out amongst the defense. less tackle numbers for the D means less time on the field for the D.

barrett
05-26-2009, 07:18 PM
he's a fine, fine tackler. one of the best in the biz. i'd like to have a better understanding of what's asked of him in coverage. He seems slow to cover weather it be in a zone or man situation. while I have no doubt that mentally he's very instinctive and quick in his decisions something seems less than ideal about him in coverage.

can anyone offer some better insight into his duties in coverage last year?

dalemurphy
05-26-2009, 11:22 PM
he's a fine, fine tackler. one of the best in the biz. i'd like to have a better understanding of what's asked of him in coverage. He seems slow to cover weather it be in a zone or man situation. while I have no doubt that mentally he's very instinctive and quick in his decisions something seems less than ideal about him in coverage.

can anyone offer some better insight into his duties in coverage last year?




I think that is the question he kept asking Richard Smith.

TimeKiller
05-27-2009, 07:38 AM
I think that is the question he kept asking Richard Smith.
He never got an answer because Smith kept laughing at the word "duties"

BigBull17
05-27-2009, 08:16 AM
I can't believe Ray Lewis is ranked that high but I don't disagree with the list overall.

I just realized, our LB corp could be Ryans - Willis - Cushing right now. Seriously. I expect a lot from Okoye this year.

That hits you right in the nuts, don't it? If Okoye doesn't pick up his game, I will be pissed.:foottap:

Vinny
05-27-2009, 10:25 AM
Urlacher totally overrated...he didn't play that well last year and he can't protect the deep middle like he used to since he seems to have lost a step. He's only a big time player in shorter space now imo.

HOU-TEX
05-27-2009, 10:44 AM
Urlacher totally overrated...he didn't play that well last year and he can't protect the deep middle like he used to since he seems to have lost a step. He's only a big time player in shorter space now imo.

Agreed. It seems like it's been a couple years now he's been kind of average. Possibly the season before the neck injury? Perhaps that was also the reason he wanted the new contract, because he knew his playing days were beginning to diminish?

beerlover
05-27-2009, 10:45 AM
That hits you right in the nuts, don't it? If Okoye doesn't pick up his game, I will be pissed.:foottap:

stud DT is alot harder find than LB. top prospects go 1st rd. & 50% bust.

reason's he has struggled - system (Richard Smith prevent 4-3) coaching, another force inside & youth. those things are behind him now -

Goldensilence
05-27-2009, 10:57 AM
stud DT is alot harder find than LB. top prospects go 1st rd. & 50% bust.

reason's he has struggled - system (Richard Smith prevent 4-3) coaching, another force inside & youth. those things are behind him now -

I hope so. He at least sounded motivated after going to the pro-bowl as a visitor.

BigBull17
05-27-2009, 11:19 AM
Double post, pleae ignore.

BigBull17
05-27-2009, 11:20 AM
stud DT is alot harder find than LB. top prospects go 1st rd. & 50% bust.

reason's he has struggled - system (Richard Smith prevent 4-3) coaching, another force inside & youth. those things are behind him now -

Yeah, but a stud LB who is smart and super athletic > then a project 19 year old kid with the nasty "P" word (potential). Okoye had at least 3-4 years to come into his own, if he ever would. Wilis was so NFL ready and would have been a very nice choice for us. I just think it was a huge mistake to pass him up.

I agree, Okoye was in a bad system, but he has done next to nothing. Studs may struggle in a poor system, but they don't become non-factors.

TimeKiller
05-27-2009, 12:18 PM
Studs may struggle in a poor system, but they don't become non-factors.

Okoye season 2 wrapped up in 13 words.

Willis is still a stud....and San Fransisco still sucks....