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Insideop
05-21-2009, 07:06 AM
I didn't see this posted yet. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6434345.html

Hopefully this is a good sign and JJ is turning the corner. I hope to see him score a lot more TD's, both PR and receiving! :smiliedance:

El Tejano
05-21-2009, 09:56 AM
If this guy could turn it on, our receiving corp could be pretty freaking awesome.

Yankee_In_TX
05-21-2009, 10:02 AM
I think he is on the hot seat. He's out of special teams only player time/roster spot, IMHO. Needs to be able to play WR or I think he is gone at years end (or not, depending on his contract).

BigBull17
05-21-2009, 10:11 AM
That's good to see. We need big play guys, but we need to protect the ball first. If you score 2 TD's, but fumble 4 times, you hurt more than help.

CloakNNNdagger
05-21-2009, 10:41 AM
I think he is on the hot seat. He's out of special teams only player time/roster spot, IMHO. Needs to be able to play WR or I think he is gone at years end (or not, depending on his contract).

He's signed to 2010...........this year's cap hit ~ $650,000, next year's ~ $750,000. His maturation window may be close to over.

Goldensilence
05-21-2009, 11:56 AM
My Fiance and I were talking about how empowering it is to receive a degree. It sounds like a light went on in Jacoby's head this past season starting the the DWI and getting leap frogged more or less by a less physically talented David Anderson, who got his contract matched.

I hope this maturation process as a person translates to maturation as a player. The WR corps is solid right now but could really be special if we get him playing to potential.

beerlover
05-21-2009, 12:12 PM
I want to see JJ suceed & his family (mom) to have a blast in the Bull Pen :fans:

painekiller
05-21-2009, 12:26 PM
getting leap frogged more or less by a less physically talented David Anderson, who got his contract matched.



DA has talent, check out these moves (http://fr.truveo.com/OT-%E2%80%93-JOCKLIFE-David-Anderson-%E2%80%93-Parties-and/id/3339218417).

Texecutioner
05-21-2009, 12:28 PM
I'm not buying anything with JJ at this point. Whether he matures or not he's Jerome Mathis 2.0 and just a KR/PR. He won't ever be a consistent WR for us, and I could care less a this point if he even makes the team.

steelbtexan
05-21-2009, 08:26 PM
I'm not buying anything with JJ at this point. Whether he matures or not he's Jerome Mathis 2.0 and just a KR/PR. He won't ever be a consistent WR for us, and I could care less a this point if he even makes the team.

Yep

What about his parting at the Super Bowl with his agent?

I'll believe he's changed when his actions prove it.

Stemp
05-21-2009, 09:20 PM
I realize that we don't cut these guys any slack becuase of the dollars they make, but I know how I was at 19,20,21 and the mentality I had. I had the same lightbulb go off when I was about 26 and finally got my degree. My priorities and work ethic changed big time and if Jacoby had the same thing happen, then that can only mean good things for him and the team. I am cautiously optimistic.

Lucky
05-21-2009, 10:06 PM
What about his parting at the Super Bowl with his agent?

What about it? Players change agents like underwear and girlfriends. That tells me nothing.

That the Texans haven't found another punt returner to compete with Jacoby tells me a lot. I guess they're buying what Jones is selling. And like most organizations, they want to give the guys they drafted every chance to succeed. I still think there's a good football player inside of Jacoby. I think the Texans agree.

gary
05-21-2009, 10:10 PM
A grown up Jacoby is a better WR named Jacoby.

PapaL
05-21-2009, 11:40 PM
Just once I'd like to read something about JJ that doesn't involve his Mommy.

OK we get it already.

Fox
05-22-2009, 12:17 AM
I still think he can make a decent PR for us, but like I said before last season I still haven't seen any indication of the polish it requires to be an every down WR in his game. I think we'll probably see him run a few reverses and fly routes again this season, but otherwise his main role will be making texans' fans hold their collective breath on punt returns.

CloakNNNdagger
05-22-2009, 08:06 AM
I still think he can make a decent PR for us, but like I said before last season I still haven't seen any indication of the polish it requires to be an every down WR in his game. I think we'll probably see him run a few reverses and fly routes again this season, but otherwise his main role will be making texans' fans hold their collective breath on punt returns.

Two strikes and you're out...............If Jones botches two returns this season, he's gone..........expect him to be moving back in with mommy.

painekiller
05-22-2009, 09:55 AM
Two strikes and you're out...............If Jones botches two returns this season, he's gone..........expect him to be moving back in with mommy.

If he moves back in with mommy after having made a million dollars in his career, then he has not grown up.

Hardcore Texan
05-22-2009, 10:20 AM
Excuse my pessimism, but I want to see the results out on the field. While this is just an offseason fluff article I really hope this is how he feels and that it translates to production. The Texans have been very patient with this young man and it's time for some ROI.

I really want him to be successful, it was exciting watching him in pre-season that rookie year but that feeling has long since been replaced. If he starts to live up to the potential we all feel he has we might just see huge things this season. And if the dog would not have stop to take a sh*!, he would have caught the rabbit.

I am pulling for him, if he can just get more reliable and consistent it will be a big step in the right direction.

BigBull17
05-22-2009, 12:15 PM
If he lives up to his "potential", (my least favorite word in football), He will be amazing. Big, strong, electric, and fast. Nice combo. Just live up to your hype man!

El Tejano
05-22-2009, 01:11 PM
I just want to be able to understand the guy when he's interviewed.

Spike
05-22-2009, 02:02 PM
I think the matching of David Anderson's contract illustrated the confidence that the coaching staff has in JJ. I think the guy has shown enough flash to give him every opportunity to stay on the roster. If he can hang on to the ball on special teams, that alone is enough to keep him around this year - but I think he has to take the next step on offense to stick around next year.

I am not sure when Andre Davis' contract is up, but I think I remember that being a two year deal (with maybe an option for a third). I think the organization would like to see JJ mature into a third or fourth receiver, so he can fill that role next year. David Anderson has locked up the other back-up spot and you bring a young guy on the cheap for the fifth spot. Maybe James Casey fills a TE/WR roll in his second year?

steelbtexan
05-23-2009, 05:18 PM
What about it? Players change agents like underwear and girlfriends. That tells me nothing.

That the Texans haven't found another punt returner to compete with Jacoby tells me a lot. I guess they're buying what Jones is selling. And like most organizations, they want to give the guys they drafted every chance to succeed. I still think there's a good football player inside of Jacoby. I think the Texans agree.

Smithiak obviously agree with you.

I just choose not to drink the koolaid.

The proof will be in the pudding and I hope I'm wrong about JJ.

This is coming from a member of the sunshine club.

CloakNNNdagger
06-07-2009, 11:34 AM
Here's a LINK (http://blogs.chron.com/texanschick/2009/06/paging_jacoby_jones_mojo.html) to Steph's blog that updates the JJ situation........pretty much "do or die"...........something that would surprise few.

texanhead08
06-07-2009, 11:43 AM
The thing with Jacoby is the coaching staff wants him to be the 3rd wr, but his fumbles keep them from trusting him. If he solves that problem he could be a very productive wr, but he hasnt done that up to this point.

Thorn
06-07-2009, 03:26 PM
I've already written off JJ in my mind, so if he doesn't make it this season, I'm not going to care. If he does make the team, does a good job, then it'll be a nice suprise, but I'll believe it when I see it.

Anybody can talk good to the press.

Maddict5
06-07-2009, 06:03 PM
Here's a LINK (http://blogs.chron.com/texanschick/2009/06/paging_jacoby_jones_mojo.html) to Steph's blog that updates the JJ situation........pretty much "do or die"...........something that would surprise few.


did joe say jj was taking over kickoff duties off andre davis in that video?

CloakNNNdagger
06-07-2009, 06:38 PM
did joe say jj was taking over kickoff duties off andre davis in that video?

I don't believe Davis was even mentioned, while Jones was said to be expected to punt AND kick return (in addition to excell as a receiver)........."and he knows that he can't screw up." All that's a lot to expect from a guy that last year MOSTLY screwed up.

Carr Bombed
06-07-2009, 06:55 PM
I've already written off JJ in my mind, so if he doesn't make it this season, I'm not going to care. If he does make the team, does a good job, then it'll be a nice suprise, but I'll believe it when I see it.

Anybody can talk good to the press.

That's basically where I'm at with him.

CloakNNNdagger
06-07-2009, 07:11 PM
I've already written off JJ in my mind, so if he doesn't make it this season, I'm not going to care. If he does make the team, does a good job, then it'll be a nice suprise, but I'll believe it when I see it.

Anybody can talk good to the press.

That's basically where I'm at with him.

But the Texans wouldn't lie to us.............:crying::redface::crying:

The Pencil Neck
06-07-2009, 07:31 PM
But the Texans wouldn't lie to us.............:crying::redface::crying:

They aren't lying to us.

They're lying to the 31 other teams in the league.

And I think that's a good thing.

Maddict5
06-07-2009, 07:42 PM
I don't believe Davis was even mentioned, while Jones was said to be expected to punt AND kick return (in addition to excell as a receiver)........."and he knows that he can't screw up." All that's a lot to expect from a guy that last year MOSTLY screwed up.

but doesnt the fact that hes expected to kr mean hes taking over those duties from AD

CloakNNNdagger
06-07-2009, 10:17 PM
but doesnt the fact that hes expected to kr mean hes taking over those duties from AD
That's what I was implying.

HOU-TEX
06-08-2009, 10:20 AM
I've already written off JJ in my mind, so if he doesn't make it this season, I'm not going to care. If he does make the team, does a good job, then it'll be a nice suprise, but I'll believe it when I see it.

Anybody can talk good to the press.

I wouldn't be upset if he doesn't make the team either. But, just think how dadgum good he'd be if he was able to get right in the head. The dude would be downright scary if he was ever able to get right.

Agreed about "talk". The same goes for folks talking up our defense already. Let's see it on the field.

Texans_Chick
06-08-2009, 10:28 AM
did joe say jj was taking over kickoff duties off andre davis in that video?

Marciano wants JJ to be able to do everything. Didn't give anybody any job. He wants Jones to be a complete player.