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MojoMan
05-04-2009, 11:11 AM
Brett Favre is in talks with the Vikings. Here we go again. Is this guy 40 years old yet? The drama just never stops with Brett Favre.

Here is an article discussing the matter at CBSSports.com

http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/11704772

Unbelievable.

BigBull17
05-04-2009, 11:14 AM
Brett Favre is in talks with the Vikings. Here we go again. Is this guy 40 years old yet? The drama just never stops with Brett Favre.

Here is an article discussing the matter at CBSSports.com

http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/11704772

Unbelievable.

Not again. I use to like the guy. Now, every time I see his face I die a little inside. Just give up the ghost.

Vinny
05-04-2009, 11:15 AM
He's more persistent than Jason.

http://cinegeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/bts1_jason1.jpg

drewmar74
05-04-2009, 11:18 AM
Brett Favre is in talks with the Vikings. Here we go again. Is this guy 40 years old yet? The drama just never stops with Brett Favre.

Here is an article discussing the matter at CBSSports.com

http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/11704772

Unbelievable.

I didn't read that he's actually in talks with them.

However, Ziggy Wilf is saying "no comment" if he's interested in Brett going there. Brett is retired "at this time."

If he goes to the Vikings, I think he'll disappoint. He's past his prime. And he'll be pretty well villified by everyone.

Brett, shut up and stay retired.

texanskan
05-04-2009, 11:24 AM
this is great, Favre was a pro bowler last season and the Jets win that division if he does not hurt his arm down the stretch. They were a 4-5 win team without him.

BigBull17
05-04-2009, 11:25 AM
He's more persistent than Jason.

http://cinegeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/bts1_jason1.jpg

Or maybe Michael Myers. Neither of them ever stay gone.

http://i368.photobucket.com/.../Halloween/Meyers1.jpg

MojoMan
05-04-2009, 11:34 AM
I didn't read that he's actually in talks with them.

However, Ziggy Wilf is saying "no comment" if he's interested in Brett going there. Brett is retired "at this time."

If he goes to the Vikings, I think he'll disappoint. He's past his prime. And he'll be pretty well villified by everyone.

Brett, shut up and stay retired.

Brett Favre is friends with the Vikings Defensive coordinator Darrell Bevell:

All signs point to Favre returning (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9535000/All-signs-point-to-Favre-returning)

The Minneapolis Star-Tribune reported that Favre has recently spoken with Vikings offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell, a good friend from their days together in Green Bay.


He has not started formal talks, but the Vikings have indicated they will probably consider the idea of signing Farve. Clearly, informal talks also appear to be occurring through interviews with the media.

Childress: Favre likely to be discussed (http://blogs.startribune.com/vikingsblog/?p=2801)

Coach Brad Childress said the Vikings have yet to discuss the fact that Brett Favre is now on the open market and free to talk to other teams — the quarterback was released from the New York Jets reserve/retired list on Tuesday — but acknowledged the subject likely would be broached. There has been speculation that although Favre retired for a second consecutive offseason in February, he might return to play for the Vikings.

“We haven’t [talked about Favre],” Childress said. ”It doesn’t mean we won’t. We talk about everything from what’s going on in the United States on the front page today. … We talk about everything. So, yeah, I’m sure we’ll talk about that.”

Brando
05-04-2009, 11:38 AM
He's more persistent than Jason.

http://cinegeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/bts1_jason1.jpg


lol


I bet Sage is pissed.

Mr teX
05-04-2009, 11:52 AM
someone just needs to tie him down for a whole season so he can stop these shenanigans...

drewmar74
05-04-2009, 11:58 AM
lol


I bet Sage is pissed.

If the Vikes sign Favre, is there an open competition?

I think that Sage > Tarvaris Jackson. But, the $1,000,000 question is: Sage > Brett?

Goldensilence
05-04-2009, 12:02 PM
If the Vikes sign Favre, is there an open competition?

I think that Sage > Tarvaris Jackson. But, the $1,000,000 question is: Sage > Brett?

The way some people in the past have talked Sage's "gunslinger mentality" you would think Sage = Brett.

HOU-TEX
05-04-2009, 12:03 PM
If the Vikes sign Favre, is there an open competition?

I think that Sage > Tarvaris Jackson. But, the $1,000,000 question is: Sage > Brett?

First half of season Favre>Sage, second half of season Sage>Favre.

If this ends up true, huge mistake by Favre. He's always been one of my favorite players to watch. His legacy will be severely tarnished in my mind if he chooses to return.

The Favre watch on NFLN royally pisses me off, as it did last year.......and the year before....:gun:

Texan_Bill
05-04-2009, 12:03 PM
Start Sage!

Brando
05-04-2009, 12:07 PM
Start Sage!

http://www.emofaces.com/en/emoticons/h/helicopter-emoticon.gif

Texan_Bill
05-04-2009, 12:10 PM
http://www.emofaces.com/en/emoticons/h/helicopter-emoticon.gif

lol: Nice smiley.

False Start
05-04-2009, 12:17 PM
I bet Sage is pissed.

That was my first thought when I heard this. Favre is making himself look pathetic, he needs to hang it up.

OzzO
05-04-2009, 12:23 PM
Okay Brett - we get the point. You don't like how GB treated / released you - fine... understandable. But really - if you wanna come back via the Vikes, just to stick it to GB. What happens if you miss the "stick". What if you lose... then what?

Can he just go to the Raiders to fade away? (no offense to Raider fans)

Flip side, wonder if Madden will get all giddy now and come back as well?

drewmar74
05-04-2009, 12:31 PM
Okay Brett - we get the point. You don't like how GB treated / released you - fine... understandable. But really - if you wanna come back via the Vikes, just to stick it to GB. What happens if you miss the "stick". What if you lose... then what?

Can he just go to the Raiders to fade away? (no offense to Raider fans)

Flip side, wonder if Madden will get all giddy now and come back as well?

Now that's an angle I hadn't thought of!

False Start
05-04-2009, 12:38 PM
He's more persistent than Jason.

http://cinegeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/bts1_jason1.jpg

So true...

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii202/J4103V/Jason_Farve_2.jpg

Hervoyel
05-04-2009, 12:41 PM
Now that's an angle I hadn't thought of!


He did say he still enjoyed it but that the travel was too much of a grind. Maybe Madden can do radio color commentary for the Vikings home games or something. That way he doesn't have to drive all over the country and he can still get his Favre dose like old times.

drewmar74
05-04-2009, 01:06 PM
He did say he still enjoyed it but that the travel was too much of a grind. Maybe Madden can do radio color commentary for the Vikings home games or something. That way he doesn't have to drive all over the country and he can still get his Favre dose like old times.

BAM!

Now there's a jock strap I'd like to sniff!

BOOM!

http://www.championnewsweekly.com/resources/johnmadden.jpg

Wolf
05-04-2009, 02:30 PM
I look at it as this, He isn't pulling a Roger Clemens and holding the team hostage for 1/2 a season. Should he stay retired? probably but who knows, He seemed to be doing well last season until he hurt his shoulder.

I am sure if some of yall were viking fans, we'd rather have a Sage/Favre combo going than a Sage/Jackson combo going into the season, esp if sage gets his license back to fly

drewmar74
05-04-2009, 02:39 PM
I look at it as this, He isn't pulling a Roger Clemens and holding the team hostage for 1/2 a season. Should he stay retired? probably but who knows, He seemed to be doing well last season until he hurt his shoulder.

I am sure if some of yall were viking fans, we'd rather have a Sage/Favre combo going than a Sage/Jackson combo going into the season, esp if sage gets his license back to fly

Hey! Favre haikus!

Sage is so pissed off,
starting job was his to lose.
But Madden is glad.

"Suck it, Packers fans!"
Brett says to the camera
after the touchdown.

Don't do this again!
We're so sick of watching you
and we say "Start Sage!"

:splits:

False Start
05-04-2009, 05:51 PM
Boredom........

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii202/J4103V/farvredaythe13th_1.png

Double Barrel
05-04-2009, 05:59 PM
Start Sage!


:roflcopter:

gary
05-04-2009, 06:07 PM
Maybe he wants to be the oldest QB ever to win an SB ring. I doubt that would happen though.

Wolf
05-04-2009, 06:14 PM
"Don't call it a comeback! I've been here for years.
Rockin my peers and puttin suckas in fear"

signed,

Brett Cool J
or
LL Cool Favre

whichever he is going by :brando:


seriously .. can't be as bad as this fool


back around november I believe
Former NFL QB, Jeff George, was on Sirius NFL Radio's Opening Drive this morning with Randy Cross and Peter King expressing his interest to comeback and play for an NFL team. George believes he has plenty of talent left to be a good veteran back up for most of the teams in the league. King recommended George call Chargers General Manager A.J. Smith for a tryout and advice on where to go from there. Smith was the General Manager that gave former Bills QB Doug Flutie a shot with the Bills.


http://gridironfans.com/forums/latest-nfl-headlines/77950-former-nfl-qb-jeff-george-looking-make-comeback.html

Texecutioner
05-04-2009, 06:16 PM
First half of season Favre>Sage, second half of season Sage>Favre.

If this ends up true, huge mistake by Favre. He's always been one of my favorite players to watch. His legacy will be severely tarnished in my mind if he chooses to return.

The Favre watch on NFLN royally pisses me off, as it did last year.......and the year before....:gun:

Agreed. I've always been a huge Farve fan and I avidly supported him last off season through that whole battle. He played real well to start off the season last year, but he really fizzled at the end in the last 4 games. He looked as if he was just getting broken down and that his age was finally starting to really get to him. He wasn't having fun either despite being in a position to make the playoffs all the way until the end.

He won't hardly be an upgrade over what the Vikes have right now any way. If so he'll barely be better than what they have, and why do the Vikes want to go this route any way? If he does come back though, I'll still root for him, but I hope he just stays retired.

gary
05-04-2009, 06:38 PM
He is not the Deke of the NFL.

mattieuk
05-04-2009, 06:53 PM
Jeez. Brett, go the heck away. You aren't the player you used to be, you'll look poor as at the Jets.

And if the Vikes really think that getting him in would be a good idea, they need some help. He isn't going to play again for free, and Brett would end any QB competition.

Plus, if he comes back, we go through this crap again next year...

ObsiWan
05-04-2009, 07:06 PM
lol


I bet Sage is pissed.

Right now - as we speak - Rosenfels and Jackson combining their signing bonuses and are contacting this guy...
http://blog.marques.cx/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/hitman.jpg

gg no re
05-04-2009, 07:46 PM
Hey, so uh, Favre is getting kinda good at returning... maybe we could use him as a return man.

(rimshot)

IlliniJen
05-04-2009, 08:44 PM
Favre is just butt hurt that GB DARED to release him. As Bon Qui Qui would say: "he need ta go!"

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a288/allthepettylies/Stupid_Free/butthurt.jpg

powerfuldragon
05-05-2009, 12:41 AM
As Bon Qui Qui would say: "he need ta go!"


bon qui qui stole 'rude' from me. k,thx.

mexican_texan
05-05-2009, 01:53 AM
Not that I support the guy, but his performance last year wasn't indicative of what he could do. Older players, especially ancient ones, need to work their asses off in the offseason, not ride around in tractors. Even Peyton Manning has begun to emphasize on his legs in his workouts more than he used to to compensate for his aging body. Favre just went in on what, two weeks of hard work before the season?

If he wants to come back, he has to start a rigorous workout regimen now and finally learn not to depend on his arm strength.

Specnatz
05-05-2009, 12:15 PM
Favre is just butt hurt that GB DARED to release him. As Bon Qui Qui would say: "he need ta go!"

You may want to check the facts but it is not Favre who is starting these rumors and he keeps saying NO on his return. It is the media who keeps bringing it up and when others in the media ask he says NO.

MojoMan
05-05-2009, 12:24 PM
You may want to check the facts but it is not Favre who is starting these rumors and he keeps saying NO on his return. It is the media who keeps bringing it up and when others in the media ask he says NO.

But didn't it kind of happen this way last year?

OzzO
05-05-2009, 12:33 PM
His mind is telling him no... but his body... his body... </R. Kelly>

I'm tired, sick and tired of love. I've had my fill of love, from below and above. Tired, tired of being admired. Tired of love uninspired. Let's face it, I'm tired! </Lilly Von Schtupp>

Always tease tease tease. Youre happy when Im on my knees. One day is fine, next is black. So if you want me off your back. Well come on and let me know, should I stay or should I go? </the Clash>


Leaving the Pack - take 1 (http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2008/03/06/3/)
....I've given everything I possibly can give to this organization, to the game of football, and I don't think I've got anything left to give, and that's it. I know I can play, but I don't think I want to. And that's really what it comes down to. Fishing for different answers and what ifs and will he come back and things like that, what matters is it's been a great career for me, and it's over....
mentally tired after Pack (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3276034)
..."I know I can still play, but it's like I told my wife, I'm just tired mentally. I'm just tired," Favre, a three-time NFL MVP, told ESPN's Chris Mortensen in a voice mail message....

no, really - tired with Jets (http://www.theonion.com/content/news/brett_favre_getting_that) (okay, this is from the Onion)
...I always told myself I'd know when it was time to walk away," the guaranteed first-ballot Hall of Famer told reporters at the Jets practice facility. "But after 17 or 18, you know, practices as the quarterback of this team, I'm just tired, mentally and physically....

MojoMan
05-05-2009, 05:59 PM
Report: Favre to meet with Vikings coach Childress (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6409430.html)

MINNEAPOLIS — ESPN is reporting that retired quarterback Brett Favre is scheduled to meet with Minnesota Vikings coach Brad Childress about a possible comeback.

The report Tuesday cited an anonymous source. It said Favre and Childress will meet at an undisclosed location later in the week. The longtime Packers quarterback retired for the second time after spending last season with the New York Jets. Both he and his agent, Bus Cook, said previously this spring that Favre intended to stay retired.

Cook did not immediately return a phone call to his Mississippi office.

Vikings spokesman Bob Hagan also did not immediately return a phone call.

Childress said last weekend that the Vikings would discuss Favre’s availability after he was granted his release by the Jets.

Double Barrel
05-05-2009, 06:03 PM
I have been avoiding All Access since this story broke. I just can't take the 24/7 coverage of Favre's indecision process. Please, make it stop! :eek:

Texan_Bill
05-05-2009, 06:06 PM
*if you ignore it, it will go away! if you ignore it, it will go away! if you ignore it, it will go away!*

JPPT1974
05-05-2009, 08:22 PM
Favre needs to give it up. Sorry Brett, but you need to give it up!

Pantherstang84
05-05-2009, 09:15 PM
Maybe somebody showed Childress the Rosencopter tape.

GP
05-06-2009, 12:36 AM
Sage can't buy a break.

And Brett Favre is officially brainless. All that chewing tobacco and snuff has seeped into his brain. Tractor fumes played a part in it, as well. And some concussions.

Just. Go. Away.

ObsiWan
05-06-2009, 01:00 AM
Come on GP, there's gotta be a sig in this story someplace.
Maybe Favre shooting at the RosenCopter from his tractor.

Maybe the RosenCopter dropping football bombs on Favre's tractor...
I know you can do it...

LOL

GP
05-06-2009, 01:17 AM
Come on GP, there's gotta be a sig in this story someplace.
Maybe Favre shooting at the RosenCopter from his tractor.

Maybe the RosenCopter dropping football bombs on Favre's tractor...
I know you can do it...

LOL

If I only had some Flash animation skills....it would be done.

It would be Favre, on a tractor, chasing the Rosencopter. Favre would be throwing football-shaped bombs at Rosencopter, but an image of a defensive back would jump up and snag the bomb before it reached Sage (Favre would shake his fist and start cussing). Once they went across the screen, they would come back across the screen again...but this time Sage would be chasing Favre, trying to drop his football-shaped bombs onto Favre--But it would bounce away harmlessly and an image of a Colts player would snag the bomb and run off the screen where you would then hear a loud BOOM! and the Colts helmet rolls back onto the screen. Sort of a Spy vs. Spy thing, like what you'd see in MadTv magazine.

Just and endless loop of 1980s-style video game animation.

Oh nelly, I'm getting tired. Better hit the hay. G'night everyone.

Thank you for the humor, obsi. I needed a good laugh today.

ObsiWan
05-06-2009, 01:31 AM
If I only had some Flash animation skills....it would be done.

It would be Favre, on a tractor, chasing the Rosencopter. Favre would be throwing football-shaped bombs at Rosencopter, but an image of a defensive back would jump up and snag the bomb before it reached Sage (Favre would shake his fist and start cussing). Once they went across the screen, they would come back across the screen again...but this time Sage would be chasing Favre, trying to drop his football-shaped bombs onto Favre--But it would bounce away harmlessly and an image of a Colts player would snag the bomb and run off the screen where you would then hear a loud BOOM! and the Colts helmet rolls back onto the screen. Sort of a Spy vs. Spy thing, like what you'd see in MadTv magazine.

Just and endless loop of 1980s-style video game animation.

Oh nelly, I'm getting tired. Better hit the hay. G'night everyone.

Thank you for the humor, obsi. I needed a good laugh today.

Yeah!!
that's what I'm talkin' 'bout!

this is just too good to let go by
I wish I had the skills to do it.

I'm photoshop-challenged. this is the best I can do...


:hunter: :roflcopter:

CloakNNNdagger
05-06-2009, 11:56 AM
This could be a crazy thought, but could Childress be meeting with Favre, not for a QB position, but for a coaching position?

Texan_Bill
05-06-2009, 12:02 PM
It would be Favre, on a tractor, chasing the Rosencopter.

I dunno man, "The Rosencopter" probably has some mad tractor skillz himself - being from Iowa and all.

drewmar74
05-06-2009, 01:52 PM
This could be a crazy thought, but could Childress be meeting with Favre, not for a QB position, but for a coaching position?

I think you got the crazy part right.

rollinstone18
05-06-2009, 02:56 PM
hm, guess i'm in the minority. i hope he returns. more gunslingers in the nfl = more entertainment.

Speedy
05-06-2009, 03:31 PM
hm, guess i'm in the minority. i hope he returns. more gunslingers in the nfl = more entertainment.

Yeah, I don't really see what the big deal is. If he wants to play and somebody wants him, more power to him. Why should I care? Other than the media outlets acting like he's the second coming of Christ. That's what makes you sick of it. Them going on and on and on about it.

If he can still play, which before he got banged up was doing pretty well, why not if that's what you want, and somebody wants you?

Khari
05-06-2009, 03:56 PM
come on favre...i've got a bet to win!

CloakNNNdagger
05-06-2009, 04:04 PM
I came across this very entertaining rant about Favre by a Vikings fan. I won't place a quote in this post since there are a few unsavory words that I'm sure most of you have never heard before. But all the same, it reflects the views seen in this thread...................with a lot more " emotion and animation".................just close your eyes and pretend Favre was coming to Houston. RANT (http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2009/05/f-k-you-brett-favre.html) :texflag:

Double Barrel
05-06-2009, 05:15 PM
hm, guess i'm in the minority. i hope he returns. more gunslingers in the nfl = more entertainment.

I don't mind his return, and I've always enjoyed watching the gunslinger mentality that he plays with.

I just don't have much tolerance for the non-stop coverage of the Favre-watching. It takes away from covering other things in the NFL. We get stuck with 30 minutes of an hour program devoted to one player, and it just gets old when there is nothing really to report until something happens.

Rich Eisen admitted yesterday on All Access that they had mentioned "Favre" over 40-something times in just the first part of the program.

Poop or get off the pot. Nothing against Favre, just report it when it happens instead of banging us over the head over and over and over.

OzzO
05-06-2009, 05:18 PM
/\ that's awesome CnD! I never knew Tony Soprano was a Viking fan.

I just wonder, if it did go down - would Favrzilla be "accepted / adopted" by either fan base - Vikes or Pack. It's almost like Adams flirting with buying McNair out.

<shudders>

Double Barrel
05-06-2009, 05:30 PM
I came across this very entertaining rant about Favre by a Vikings fan. I won't place a quote in this post since there are a few unsavory words that I'm sure most of you have never heard before. But all the same, it reflects the views seen in this thread...................with a lot more " emotion and animation".................just close your eyes and pretend Favre was coming to Houston. RANT (http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2009/05/f-k-you-brett-favre.html) :texflag:

I don't necessarily agree with his hate take, but that was one of the funniest rants that I've read in a long time. Seriously, I was laughing the entire time of reading it. The dude went off!!

I don't think I hate anyone like that*...even if VY himself were coming to Houston, I could not muster that epic of a rant. And the replies are hilarious, too!

I hope Favre does end up with the Vikings. The drama alone is worth bringing the popcorn! :popcorn:

*except Slug Adams, of course, but it's apples and oranges since the fat bastard can't play ball

Showtime100
05-06-2009, 05:38 PM
This can't be happening, just can't be.

IlliniJen
05-06-2009, 05:51 PM
Brett Favre is football's zombie. He won't die, he won't go away. He just sort of trundles along, with the media following his every step. And everyone sort of never mentions that he's just not that good anymore.

Blake
05-06-2009, 06:06 PM
This dude is a trip.



:lolrskates:

This is Brett Favre Lollerskating.

GlassHalfFull
05-06-2009, 06:07 PM
Someone mentioned it earlier, but I think it worth repeating, poor Sage. He must be beyond frustrated. If Favre ends up being kneecapped or some such thing, the cops investigating should look first at Sage.

MojoMan
05-06-2009, 06:32 PM
Someone mentioned it earlier, but I think it worth repeating, poor Sage. He must be beyond frustrated. If Favre ends up being kneecapped or some such thing, the cops investigating should look first at Sage.

There is a precedent for that sort of thing. Remember these two competitors?

http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/buzzerbeater/tonyanancy.jpg

CloakNNNdagger
05-06-2009, 07:09 PM
I don't necessarily agree with his hate take, but that was one of the funniest rants that I've read in a long time. Seriously, I was laughing the entire time of reading it. The dude went off!!

I don't think I hate anyone like that*...even if VY himself were coming to Houston, I could not muster that epic of a rant. And the replies are hilarious, too!

I hope Favre does end up with the Vikings. The drama alone is worth bringing the popcorn! :popcorn:

*except Slug Adams, of course, but it's apples and oranges since the fat bastard can't play ball

I just had to go back and reread that rant again............and I still have tears pouring down my face and peas flying out of my nose. :spit:

If we had a writer like him on the Chronicle, their readership would quadruple and McClain would be selling pencils on Main Street.:texflag:

drewmar74
05-06-2009, 07:49 PM
I came across this very entertaining rant about Favre by a Vikings fan. I won't place a quote in this post since there are a few unsavory words that I'm sure most of you have never heard before. But all the same, it reflects the views seen in this thread...................with a lot more " emotion and animation".................just close your eyes and pretend Favre was coming to Houston. RANT (http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2009/05/f-k-you-brett-favre.html) :texflag:

Found this in the comments section and laughed my ass off:

Ron Dayne's Strict Diet Says:

May 6th, 2009 at 11:51 am
As a Houston fan, I must reach out to you and prepare you. the Rosencopter will let you down in new and creative ways en route to epic failure. Halfway decent is too optimistic. We signed Dan “Out the endzone” Orlovsky as an upgrade!

:spit:

CloakNNNdagger
05-07-2009, 08:36 AM
This is potentially turning into more of a black hole for the Vikings than any positive.

Favre Arrival Bad News For Jackson, Rosenfels, Or Neither? (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/05/07/favre-arrival-bad-news-for-jackson-rosenfels-or-neither/)


Our pal Sam Farmer of the Los Angeles Times observed this morning via Twitter that the arrival of Brett Favre in Minnesota likely will make Tarvaris Jackson the odd man out of the quarterbacking depth chart.

On the surface, we agree. Indeed, we recently observed that the battle between Jackson and newcomer Sage Rosenfels wouldn’t be for the starting job, but for a job, period.

But let’s look at this a bit more deeply. If Favre is taking all the reps with the first-team offense, there won’t be many on-field opportunities left to help get Rosenfels acquainted with the West Coast attack. Given that this will be Jackson’s fourth year in the system — and given that coach Brad Childress staked his reputation and ego on Jackson when picking him in round two in 2006 – Tarvaris might be in a better position to back up Favre once the season starts.

Given that Favre would serve as a one-year rental at best, we’re not ready to rule out a decision by the Vikings to keep both Jackson and Rosenfels, along with second-year project John David Booty.

At a base salary of only $535,000, it makes sense financially to keep Jackson around. The bigger question is whether the Vikings will be willing to devote four roster spots to the quarterback position.

If, at the end of the day, only three spots can be spared, we think John David could get booted absent dramatic improvement in 2009.

Once again, it’s all going to come down to available reps. Favre will be the focal point; the other three will have to make the most of whatever scraps they can muster.

HOU-TEX
05-07-2009, 10:16 AM
I came across this very entertaining rant about Favre by a Vikings fan. I won't place a quote in this post since there are a few unsavory words that I'm sure most of you have never heard before. But all the same, it reflects the views seen in this thread...................with a lot more " emotion and animation".................just close your eyes and pretend Favre was coming to Houston. RANT (http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2009/05/f-k-you-brett-favre.html) :texflag:

:spit: That's epic!

This gem at the end is just awesome.

I’ll cherish your token three good games during the season that make Collinsworth flood his pants, you blood-soaked pantyliner.

Cjeremy635
05-07-2009, 10:52 AM
CND,
I think that was the funniest thing I've ever read! I laughed hysterically through the whole thing. On a more serious note, if Brett signs with the Vikes, he better get a restraining order against that guy. Hell, even if he doesn't sign, I'd still get the restraining order. That guy's about one more "F-U" from really losing it!

OzzO
05-07-2009, 02:31 PM
Maybe this offseason, he means it (retiring). Yahoo (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ys-favre050709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns):

The Minnesota Vikings will not sign free-agent quarterback Brett Favre, a source close to the team said Thursday.

The source said Favre told Vikings coach Brad Childress that he wanted to remain retired in a phone call that took place sometime in the last day. Favre is expected to publicly explain his decision soon.

Favre retired after the 2008 season, which he spent with the New York Jets. There was speculation that the Vikings were interested in bringing in a veteran to compete with Sage Rosenfels, who was acquired this offseason from the Houston Texans. Rosenfels is atop the depth chart heading into training camp, with Tavaris Jackson and John David Booty also on the roster.

CloakNNNdagger
05-07-2009, 03:56 PM
Maybe this offseason, he means it (retiring). Yahoo (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ys-favre050709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns):


It's all a conspiracy, a rouse, a bluff...............the Vikings will cave............this is not the end:gun:

drewmar74
05-07-2009, 03:59 PM
It's all a conspiracy, a rouse, a bluff...............the Vikings will cave............this is not the end:gun:

Please! No! You can't be right, CND!

THIS HAS TO BE THE END!

or maybe not....

http://i24.ebayimg.com/05/i/001/47/a3/caf2_1.JPG

link (http://cgi.ebay.com/Brett-Favre-Minnesota-Vikings-NFL-Replica-Purple-Jersey_W0QQitemZ330328265697QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_ SM_Fan_Shop?hash=item4ce91953e1&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116)

CloakNNNdagger
05-08-2009, 07:43 AM
Please! No! You can't be right, CND!

THIS HAS TO BE THE END!

or maybe not....

http://i24.ebayimg.com/05/i/001/47/a3/caf2_1.JPG

link (http://cgi.ebay.com/Brett-Favre-Minnesota-Vikings-NFL-Replica-Purple-Jersey_W0QQitemZ330328265697QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_ SM_Fan_Shop?hash=item4ce91953e1&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116)

Signs Now Point To Favre Not Playing, Which Likely Means He’ll End Up Playing [LINK] (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/05/07/signs-now-point-to-favre-not-playing-which-likely-means-hell-end-up-playing/)

As expected, Brett Favre appears to be doing the unexpected.

All signs pointed to a Second Annual Unretirement. And then, abruptly, Favre reportedly told the Vikings he wasn’t going to come back.

According to Judd Zulgad of the Minneapolis Star Tribune (http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/44568107.html?elr=KArksUUUU), Favre’s decision prompted coach Brad Childress to scuttle his trip to Mississippi.

That said, agent Bus Cook left the door open for Favre to once again do the unexpected.

“Like anyone else, he could always change his mind in the future about retiring, but I haven’t heard anything from him that that’s the case,” Cook said Thursday.

We still think that there’s more to this one than meets the eye. Maybe he wants more money than the Vikings will pay. Or maybe he doesn’t want to participate in OTAs — why would he be talking about hiring an unemployed quarterbacks coach if he were thinking of plunging head first into underwear practices in Minnesota?

So we’re not ready to believe that anything is final on this one.

HOU-TEX
05-08-2009, 09:51 AM
I don't think he's even had his bicep repaired yet. He'd miss most of the off season workouts anyways.

I think he remains retired. Favre playing "cry wolf" the past 3 years is the primary reason the media has been so persistant. They were even staked out at Favre's house for Pete sake.

CloakNNNdagger
05-08-2009, 11:08 AM
I don't think he's even had his bicep repaired yet. He'd miss most of the off season workouts anyways.

I think he remains retired. Favre playing "cry wolf" the past 3 years is the primary reason the media has been so persistant. They were even staked out at Favre's house for Pete sake.

No one was talking about REPAIRING the bicep. He has a partially torn biceps. It's the pain that has been affecting his performance. A QB can function at passing just perfectly without the help of the biceps muscle at all. The operation that he was considering at this time would have probably simply been completing the tear with a simple "snip." Pain relief is instantaneous and recovery is almost as quick.

drewmar74
05-08-2009, 11:16 AM
No one was talking about REPAIRING the bicep. He has a partially torn biceps. It's the pain that has been affecting his performance. A QB can function at passing just perfectly without the help of the biceps muscle at all. The operation that he was considering at this time would have probably simply been completing the tear with a simple "snip." Pain relief is instantaneous and recovery is almost as quick.

Didn't Elway play one of his last seasons with a completely ruptured biceps tendon on his throwing arm?

Specnatz
05-08-2009, 11:39 AM
It's all a conspiracy, a rouse, a bluff...............the Vikings will cave............this is not the end:gun:

Since they called him wouldn't it be he will cave to them?

CloakNNNdagger
05-08-2009, 03:13 PM
Since they called him wouldn't it be he will cave to them?

It COULD work either way, BUT the Vikings have some at least serviceable QBs to fall back on.............Favre, evidently has no other offers.

CloakNNNdagger
05-08-2009, 03:20 PM
Didn't Elway play one of his last seasons with a completely ruptured biceps tendon on his throwing arm?

You're exactly right. He played through the pain of a partial tear, although it did, by his own admission, compromise his play. During one game, he heard a pop.........his bicep spontaneously, totally separated and he went on to play pain free.........He went on to win 2 Super Bowls............without any help from his throwing arm bicep muscle.

CloakNNNdagger
05-08-2009, 04:42 PM
Well, ladies and gentlemen,

Favre Fiasco Continues? (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/05/08/favre-fiasco-continues/)


Just as we were getting ready to give public praise to Judd Zulgad’s open call to the Vikings to put the Brett Favre situation to bed, word has emerged that the dance continues.

According to ESPN, via Greg Bedard of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, Favre has sent shoulder X-rays to the Vikings. If the images show no major damage, the two sides might still get together.

So onward it goes. Where it stops, no one knows.

And increasingly few care.

Report: Favre Has Not Ruled Out A Return (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/05/08/report-favre-has-not-ruled-out-a-return/)

Yesterday at about this time, Rick Schwartz of Yahoo! Sports reported that Brett Favre has ruled out a return to the NFL. Schwartz also reported that Favre was expected to announce his decision to remain retired in the near future.

Despite the fact that no one in the NFL media previously had ever heard of Rick Schwartz (sorry, Rick, but it’s true), the report was accepted as gospel because no one had any credible basis on which to contradict it.

Now, 24 hours or so later, Scott Hanson of NFL Network reports that Brett Favre has not ruled out a return to the NFL. And Favre has not announced anything.

Hanson also reports that Favre and Vikings coach Brad Childress had at least one conversation this week, and that no absolute decisions have been made regarding whether Favre will play for the Vikings or stay retired.

Bottom line? Just when we allowed ourselves to think that the music had stopped, Club Disco is hopping once again.

I have a balloon here for anyone who can give what the team is looking for in the shoulder X-rays.:thinking:

drewmar74
05-08-2009, 04:47 PM
I have a balloon here for anyone who can give what the team is looking for in the shoulder X-rays.:thinking:


The extent of the proximal bicep tendon rupture?

CloakNNNdagger
05-08-2009, 06:02 PM
The extent of the proximal bicep tendon rupture?

Not correct.:dontknowa

TimeKiller
05-08-2009, 06:58 PM
This makes me want to buy enough packs of crayons to make a purple crayon sandwich, eat it, crap it out in the shape of the number 4 and send it to the Vikings.

I can't wait until he actually retires. I can't wait until this isn't a topic anymore.

MightyTExan
05-09-2009, 10:51 AM
Not correct.:dontknowa

Rotator cuff?

drewmar74
05-09-2009, 11:22 AM
Not correct.:dontknowa

additional damage to the rotator cuff?
a tear in the sheath surrounding the biceps tendon?
cartilage damage?

CloakNNNdagger
05-09-2009, 11:57 AM
Rotator cuff?

additional damage to the rotator cuff?
a tear in the sheath surrounding the biceps tendon?
cartilage damage?

Congratulations. Both of you are essentially CORRECT!

When you have a partial tear of the biceps, because of the pain, you need to overcompensate with the rotator cuff to be able to maintain function QB motions. This, over time, puts the rotator cuf at risk for tear.........then the ability to compensate is gone.

Let's say, the biceps tear is simply completed with a simple surgical "snip." Then you are still dependent on a healthy rotator cuff to maintain function.

Favre over the years has suffered several right shoulder injuries including several AC joint (acromio-clavicular [shoulder girdle to collar bone] separations..........all of these empirically associated with rotator cuff injury.

These factors, along with the repetitive throwing motion overuse factor have to be very worrisome to the overall state of Favre's shoulder...........not only rotator cuff.

If you watched Favre last season, you would have noticed that he had a real problem with overhead motions, sometime with "side-armed" motions............anything requiring raising his arm.

I would suspect an MRI of the shoulder would reveal extensive degenerative changes including rotator cuff and labral fraying and stretching of the capsule as well as significant cartilage deformity.............and chronic separation of the AC joint.

If all that was wrong was the biceps, the simple "snip" could get him on the field immediately.

If the rotator cuff or labrum or A/C joint problems require surgery, which is all MAJOR surgery, this season is toast.

drewmar74
05-09-2009, 12:00 PM
Congratulations. Both of you are essentially CORRECT!

When you have a partial tear of the biceps, because of the pain, you need to overcompensate with the rotator cuff to be able to maintain function QB motions. This, over time, puts the rotator cuf at risk for tear.........then the ability to compensate is gone.

Let's say, the biceps tear is simply completed with a simple surgical "snip." Then you are still dependent on a healthy rotator cuff to maintain function.

Favre over the years has suffered several right shoulder injuries including several AC joint (acromio-clavicular [shoulder girdle to collar bone] separations..........all of these empirically associated with rotator cuff injury.

These factors, along with the repetitive throwing motion overuse factor have to be very worrisome to the overall state of Favre's shoulder...........not only rotator cuff.

If you watched Favre last season, you would have noticed that he had a real problem with overhead motions, sometime with "side-armed" motions............anything requiring raising his arm.

I would suspect an MRI of the shoulder would reveal extensive degenerative changes including rotator cuff and labral fraying and stretching of the capsule as well as significant cartilage deformity.............and chronic separation of the AC joint.

If all that was wrong was the biceps, the simple "snip" could get him on the field immediately.

If the rotator cuff or labrum or A/C joint problems require surgery, which is all MAJOR surgery, this season is toast.

So if he's not already done, he's damn close to it.

CloakNNNdagger
05-09-2009, 12:13 PM
So if he's not already done, he's damn close to it.

That's the way I see it................of course, that's if he doesn't want to pick up the "unretirement game" 12-18 months after surgery..........at age 41.......... :mcnugget:

drewmar74
05-09-2009, 12:18 PM
That's the way I see it................of course, that's if he doesn't want to pick up the "game" 12-18 months after surgery.......... :mcnugget:

I suffered a distal biceps tendon rupture and it was a good year before that thing was even close to normal after the surgery....

And that was when I was young. I can't imagine trying to get something like that one at 40 years old.

ObsiWan
05-09-2009, 12:19 PM
This makes me want to buy enough packs of crayons to make a purple crayon sandwich, eat it, crap it out in the shape of the number 4 and send it to the Vikings.

I can't wait until he actually retires. I can't wait until this isn't a topic anymore.

its only a topic because NFLN won't let go...
...it's sad really...
on both Favre's part and the media's part...

but its the off-season...
...there's no Plaxico/Vick/PacMan-esque guys doing incredibly dumb things at the moment...

this is the closest thing to drama they can follow

ObsiWan
05-09-2009, 12:25 PM
I came across this very entertaining rant about Favre by a Vikings fan. I won't place a quote in this post since there are a few unsavory words that I'm sure most of you have never heard before. But all the same, it reflects the views seen in this thread...................with a lot more " emotion and animation".................just close your eyes and pretend Favre was coming to Houston. RANT (http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2009/05/f-k-you-brett-favre.html) :texflag:

That man needs therapy
soon!

CloakNNNdagger
05-09-2009, 12:42 PM
I suffered a distal biceps tendon rupture and it was a good year before that thing was even close to normal after the surgery....

And that was when I was young. I can't imagine trying to get something like that one at 40 years old.


That reminds me of something I took for granted and left out. If he undergoes shoulder surgery, he would undergo a repair of his biceps muscle..........you wouldn't want to leave the biceps unrepaired, exposing the shoulder repair(s) continued overcompensation. All in all, not an easy recovery/rehab at any age.

CloakNNNdagger
05-12-2009, 08:24 AM
The Philadephia Inquirer (AP) confirms that the Vikings are seriously interested in obtaining Favre's services.

NFL: Vikings confirm interest in Favre (http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20090512_NFL___Vikings_confirm_interest_in_Favre.h tml)

The Minnesota Vikings have spoken: Yes, they're interested in Brett Favre.
The Vikings broke their silence yesterday, with president Mark Wilf saying the team is considering the supposedly retired star.

"He's a Hall of Fame quarterback. He's a great competitor," Wilf said. "Ultimately, you'll have to ask Brett what his plans are, but sure there's interest in Brett Favre."

Favre, 39, was released by the New York Jets on April 28, saying in a statement: "At this time, I am retired and have no intention of returning to football."

He hasn't spoken since his second announced retirement. Favre's agent, Bus Cook, has said that Favre remains retired.

TimeKiller
05-12-2009, 09:12 AM
If the rotator cuff or labrum or A/C joint problems require surgery, which is all MAJOR surgery, this season is toast.

Well, that doesn't rule out his mid to late 40s and beyond...

its only a topic because NFLN won't let go...
...it's sad really...
on both Favre's part and the media's part...

but its the off-season...
...there's no Plaxico/Vick/PacMan-esque guys doing incredibly dumb things at the moment...

this is the closest thing to drama they can follow

You know, I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised to learn that Favre is just putting up the front for the NFLN so they can have it to talk about.

Favre is a couple of connected train cars barreling along a downhill track with no engine, no brakes and no end in sight.

Wolf
05-27-2009, 11:10 PM
damn
:popcorn:

I'm sure there are a lot of Vikings fans out there who would love to see Brett Favre(notes) put on the purple and yellow, but Fran Tarkenton isn't one of them. If it does eventually happen, you won't see Tarkenton showing up at Favre's door in Minnesota with a freshly-baked apple pie to welcome him.

Tarkenton was on 790 the Zone in Atlanta yesterday and talked about the Brett Favre's "I'm retired, wait, no I'm not" bit.

“I think it’s despicable. What he put the Packers through last year was not good. Here’s an organization that was loyal to him for 17, 18 years, provided stability of organization, provided players. It just wasn’t about Brett Favre. In this day and time, we have glorified the Brett Favre’s of the world so much, they think it’s about them. He goes to New York and bombs. He’s 39 years old. How would you like Ray Nitschke in his last year (playing for) the Vikings, or I retire, and go play for the Packers. I kind of hope it happens, so he can fail.”

Wow. That's a Limbaugh-on-Obama level of hatred right there. And Tarkenton wasn't much more complimentary of Favre as a football player, either.

“I think he has been a great flamboyant quarterback, but he has made more stupid plays than any great quarterback that I’ve ever seen. Look at his final game in a Packers uniform. He blew that game against the Giants. He’s playing against Eli Manning(notes), I love Eli Manning, but he’s still not a great quarterback. He’s not Peyton yet, or Tom Brady(notes). He’s just a guy. And they’re (Packers) are playing at home, and they’re in a tight situation, they went to overtime and he (Favre) throws the interception that allows them (the Giants) to come back and win the game. He has done that and driven his coaches crazy all of his career.”

That is shocking. It's not shocking necessarily that Tarkenton has those opinions, but I thought there was some kind of rule that prohibited people from ever going on television or radio unless they had an unbridled love of Brett Favre. It's somewhat refreshing to hear, and not just because I happen to agree.

If Favre does end up in a Vikings uniform in '09, I hope Tarkenton also unretires for just one game t


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Fran-Tarkenton-will-not-be-welcoming-Brett-Favre;_ylt=A0wNdbQgDR5K6iwABgc5nYcB?urn=nfl,166234

Showtime100
05-27-2009, 11:30 PM
Man, I don't know what effect this will have on Favre, but he might have just lured John Madden out of retirement.

Pass the popcorn will ya Wolf? The backlash of such sacrilege could get interesting....lol. :popcorn:

Texan JBZ
05-28-2009, 12:12 AM
I know it's easy to beat up on Favre for all of this off-season drama about whether he's retired or not. But I look at it from a different perspective because I know what he's going through.

When I stopped playing football, it took me at least 3 years to remove that urge to play out of my system. IT WAS HARD! Letting the game of football go is way more difficult than some people know. I didn't watch football for for 2 of those 3 years because it made me sick to my stomach that I wasn't playing anymore. And that's just after college.

Now, imagine you're Favre. Football is probably the only thing he's good at in his life. It's a release. It's an outlet. No matter what's going in your personal life, when you're out on the field practicing or playing it all goes away for those few hours. And he's had this outlet in his life for the last 30+ years. It's hard imagining it not being there anymore.

As far as his indecision about rather to return or not after the season is initially over, I understand that too. Look, when football season FINALLY ends, you're just as happy as can be. Trust me, most guys are glad when the season ends rather it's on a high note or a low note. Your body is beat to shit, you're mentally drained, and just need a break. But after a month or so, that itch comes back. And man oh man, when it gets close to two-a-days, you start getting that feeling in your bones and you start smelling that scent that the grass gives off and it lets you know it's about time to strap it up again. It's hard to let go of that feeling. For real, I still get it to this day. I walk outside in mid to late July and that smell hits my nose, and I think, "yeah, it's time for some football baby!"

But by far the hardest part of leaving the game of football, the part that Favre and numerous others struggle with the most, is that there is no viable alternative. You can stop playing collegiate or pro basketball, but there's still competitive pick-up games and competitive leagues you can play in. You can stop playing collegiate or pro baseball, but there's still semi-pro teams or softball out there to play. Tennis, golf, volleyball, auto-racing, etc. But when you take off those shoulder pad and helmet for the last time, that's it. There's no alternative. There's nothing to take the place of the game you've played and loved since you were a kid. Flag football? Please, not even close. That's the main problem - there's no alternative to playing hard-nosed football and it sucks, really bad. So give Favre a break people.

HoustonFrog
05-28-2009, 08:16 AM
damn
:popcorn:



http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Fran-Tarkenton-will-not-be-welcoming-Brett-Favre;_ylt=A0wNdbQgDR5K6iwABgc5nYcB?urn=nfl,166234

I'm glad Tark said it. Someone needed to. Favre went from one of the most respected to a putz!

I don't care how hard it is to get football out of your system...I missed competitive sports when I stopped when younger...the fact remains you can handle it better. Just shut your mouth and don't take people hostage. If it happens every year have the light come on that says.."maybe I'll shut my pie-hole this year before I make a decision." The guy really is king of the attention whores.

CloakNNNdagger
05-28-2009, 09:08 AM
Just imagine in the real world going through all these long-term recurrent shinanigans of off again on again with your employer........even at the CEO level. The disruption of business. The inability to plan for the future. The inability to mature/elevate the business. Wouldn't happen............the risk to the business would be too high. Anyone that deals with Favre deserves all the woes they incur because the benefits are long gone.

Texan JBZ
05-28-2009, 09:23 AM
I'm glad Tark said it. Someone needed to. Favre went from one of the most respected to a putz!

I don't care how hard it is to get football out of your system...I missed competitive sports when I stopped when younger...the fact remains you can handle it better. Just shut your mouth and don't take people hostage. If it happens every year have the light come on that says.."maybe I'll shut my pie-hole this year before I make a decision." The guy really is king of the attention whores.

Imagine being the best at what you do. The best at what you do in the entire world! It's hard to give up that feeling. There's lots of examples. Jordan, Emmitt, Montana, Rice, Marino, Bruce Smith, and on, and on. Favre gets the attention he does because he's always been a media darling. The sports media loves the guy and it's hard to not root for him considering all the things he's overcome in his personal life. Yes, it could be handled better. But the fact is that many of these guys hardly ever handle it the "right" way.

Texan JBZ
05-28-2009, 09:29 AM
Just imagine in the real world going through all these long-term recurrent shinanigans of off again on again with your employer........even at the CEO level. The disruption of business. The inability to plan for the future. The inability to mature/elevate the business. Wouldn't happen............the risk to the business would be too high. Anyone that deals with Favre deserves all the woes they incur because the benefits are long gone.

Yeah, but if you generated your employer millions and millions in annual revenues, they'd find a way to deal with it. Plus, these guys don't operate in the real world of business. They're entertainers playing a sport.

And Favre is still a big draw in the NFL. If he were still with the Jets, there would be plenty of people at the first game of the year just to see him play.

HOU-TEX
05-28-2009, 09:33 AM
Imagine being the best at what you do. The best at what you do in the entire world! It's hard to give up that feeling. There's lots of examples. Jordan, Emmitt, Montana, Rice, Marino, Bruce Smith, and on, and on. Favre gets the attention he does because he's always been a media darling. The sports media loves the guy and it's hard to not root for him considering all the things he's overcome in his personal life. Yes, it could be handled better. But the fact is that many of these guys hardly ever handle it the "right" way.

I felt just like you up until last year. I was still rooting for him a little, but it's getting downright selfish of him now. He ruined the Jets season almost single-handedly, he then retired AGAIN, he asked for his release from the Jets and he's got a bicep tendon hanging by a thread. It has been mentioned by several he wants to get back at the Packers. Yep, sounds like a team player to me...not.

Texan JBZ
05-28-2009, 09:36 AM
I felt just like you up until last year. I was still rooting for him a little, but it's getting downright selfish of him now. He ruined the Jets season almost single-handedly, he then retired AGAIN, he asked for his release from the Jets and he's got a bicep tendon hanging by a thread. It has been mentioned by several he wants to get back at the Packers. Yep, sounds like a team player to me...not.

Yeah, I can agree with that. Although, he was injured toward the end of last season when the Jets season went into the toilet. He played pretty well up until then. He should have done the right thing and took himself out of the line-up, but he's got that warrior mentality that he can play through anything (even though it proved to be a detriment to his team).

HOU-TEX
05-28-2009, 09:44 AM
Yeah, I can agree with that. Although, he was injured toward the end of last season when the Jets season went into the toilet. He played pretty well up until then. He should have done the right thing and took himself out of the line-up, but he's got that warrior mentality that he can play through anything (even though it proved to be a detriment to his team).

Exactly! Which is why I now think it's about him. He doesn't give a damn about the Vikings. IMO, the Vikings would be screwing the pooch if they end up signing him. Childress' job is already in jeopardy and this would be the final nail in the coffin.

Texan_Bill
05-28-2009, 10:08 AM
Certainties in life: Death, Taxes, Favre and solidity.

HoustonFrog
05-28-2009, 11:48 AM
Imagine being the best at what you do. The best at what you do in the entire world! It's hard to give up that feeling. There's lots of examples. Jordan, Emmitt, Montana, Rice, Marino, Bruce Smith, and on, and on. Favre gets the attention he does because he's always been a media darling. The sports media loves the guy and it's hard to not root for him considering all the things he's overcome in his personal life. Yes, it could be handled better. But the fact is that many of these guys hardly ever handle it the "right" way.

The difference between most of the guys above and Favre is that most still wanted to play and never said they would retire. Most were just willing to hang on while trying it with another team. Favre announced his retirement 3-4 years straight, then instead of letting the Packers, who supported him for a career, move on and get better and prepare, he kept holding them hostage by waiting it out. Then he did it to an extent where he turned on his former team and made them have to move forward. It was pure selfishness and being an attention whore. It's pretty pathetic.

Mr teX
05-28-2009, 12:38 PM
damn
:popcorn:



http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Fran-Tarkenton-will-not-be-welcoming-Brett-Favre;_ylt=A0wNdbQgDR5K6iwABgc5nYcB?urn=nfl,166234

tarkenton..my new hero. he also goes in on Marcellus Wiley too...

Tarkenton also responded to comments from former NFL defensive end Marcellus Wiley, who called Tarkenton a “grumpy old man” on ESPN.

“Marcellus Wiley, who is trying to parlay a minimal football career into still making more money. This grumpy old man is 69 years old, I own six businesses, I’ve built 16 over the years. . . . I’m paying my taxes, I’ve started two new businesses, we’re hiring more people, we’re not laying people off, we’re not cutting their salaries — we’re increasing their salaries, and [in] this society we are productive when so many people are not productive. I’m not playing croquet down at Orlando at the Villages, I’m not playing golf every day, I’m out there working and productive and a 69-year-old . . . I’m creating and building businesses from the ground up. That’s this grumpy old man.”

CloakNNNdagger
05-28-2009, 01:08 PM
Yeah, but if you generated your employer millions and millions in annual revenues, they'd find a way to deal with it. Plus, these guys don't operate in the real world of business. They're entertainers playing a sport.

And Favre is still a big draw in the NFL. If he were still with the Jets, there would be plenty of people at the first game of the year just to see him play.

There's even a limit to how much teams are willing to take from players like Favre. Most teams have shied far far away from Favre. The Packers were not internally unanimous in the decision to take things as far as they did, for as long as they did.

TimeKiller
05-28-2009, 01:27 PM
If Farve is getting "the itch" why doesn't he just strap on some gear and we can all line up and tackle the hell out of him until he feels like he's done? We can even pretend to have someone running routes he can throw to just before he gets clobbered!!!

Texan JBZ
05-28-2009, 01:45 PM
The difference between most of the guys above and Favre is that most still wanted to play and never said they would retire. Most were just willing to hang on while trying it with another team. Favre announced his retirement 3-4 years straight, then instead of letting the Packers, who supported him for a career, move on and get better and prepare, he kept holding them hostage by waiting it out. Then he did it to an extent where he turned on his former team and made them have to move forward. It was pure selfishness and being an attention whore. It's pretty pathetic.

There's even a limit to how much teams are willing to take from players like Favre. Most teams have shied far far away from Favre. The Packers were not internally unanimous in the decision to take things as far as they did, for as long as they did.

If Farve is getting "the itch" why doesn't he just strap on some gear and we can all line up and tackle the hell out of him until he feels like he's done? We can even pretend to have someone running routes he can throw to just before he gets clobbered!!!


Why so much angst toward Favre? So the guy can't seem to make up his mind to retire or play. Big Deal! It's his life. If he changes his mind five more time, I'll still be for him because I know he's always played the hard and he's always played the game right. He just can't seem to walk away from the thing he loves most in life, and that's playing the game of football.

And look at Jordan, Houston Frog. He retired twice and returned back to play again. I bet he still thinks he can play today. It happens all the time with guys retiring and coming back. Look at Junior Seau. Same thing. The difference is that none of these guys, not even Jordan to a certain extent, are as popular with the media as Brett Favre. That's why this continues to be a story.

Personally, I think Favre will continue to try and play until he's carried off the field with a career ending injury. I think that's the only thing that will stop him from trying to come back every year.

Specnatz
05-28-2009, 02:09 PM
Farve is not the one talking to the media, Farve has said very little since he left the Jets. It is the Vikings who perused him, not the other way around.

Oh and by the way Fran you had 266 Int of your damn own, in your time you were considered a gun slinger as well considering how much teams actually threw back then compared to now. In your last season you threw 32 Int compared to 25 TD. Sounds more like sour grapes to me than someone actually speaking from knowledge. He never threw 32 in one season big mouth.

Brett had a pro-bowl first half of the season until he tore the muscle in his arm. That is on Brett and the coaches to not change the game plan accordingly.

I do not get the hatred for Brett either. I am more sick and tired of the media covering the story or making up a story about it. It is like how they cover TO or Ocho Stinko.

HoustonFrog
05-28-2009, 02:31 PM
And look at Jordan, Houston Frog. He retired twice and returned back to play again. I bet he still thinks he can play today. It happens all the time with guys retiring and coming back. Look at Junior Seau. Same thing. The difference is that none of these guys, not even Jordan to a certain extent, are as popular with the media as Brett Favre. That's why this continues to be a story.

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Jordan is the only guy that came back on your list really and he is the greatest player ever so I give him a little slack. Also, in hoops you can reinvent your game and learn different skill sets....post up more, fade aways, etc. Favre has been losing games since his last year in GB and pretty much isn't the same. He is far from the greatest, and his leeway ended after about the 3rd time he cried wolf. The guy has lost all goodwill and is a chump.

Texan JBZ
05-28-2009, 03:17 PM
Jordan is the only guy that came back on your list really and he is the greatest player ever so I give him a little slack. Also, in hoops you can reinvent your game and learn different skill sets....post up more, fade aways, etc. Favre has been losing games since his last year in GB and pretty much isn't the same. He is far from the greatest, and his leeway ended after about the 3rd time he cried wolf. The guy has lost all goodwill and is a chump.

Favre does have to take the blame for throwing that last pass that Webster intercepted, but that's what you get with the guy. He's been doing that his whole career. Sometimes he got away with it, sometimes he didn't. But you can't take anything away from Favre and the season he was having his last year in Green Bay. Dude was phenomenal! He took his team to overtime of the NFC Championship Game against the eventual Super Bowl Champion NY Giants that year.

As far as his place among the greatest QBs ever, you'll get differing opinions from damn near everybody. Me personally, he's third on my last behind Elway and Montana, respectively. People forget just how great of a player Favre was in his prime. And he did it like Elway and Marino did for the majority of their careers - without a big name, Hall of Fame type WR. To say he's far from the greatest isn't being far to the guy. He's definitely one of the Top 5 QBs of all time.

HOU-TEX
05-28-2009, 03:25 PM
Favre does have to take the blame for throwing that last pass that Webster intercepted, but that's what you get with the guy. He's been doing that his whole career. Sometimes he got away with it, sometimes he didn't. But you can't take anything away from Favre and the season he was having his last year in Green Bay. Dude was phenomenal! He took his team to overtime of the NFC Championship Game against the eventual Super Bowl Champion NY Giants that year.

As far as his place among the greatest QBs ever, you'll get differing opinions from damn near everybody. Me personally, he's third on my last behind Elway and Montana, respectively. People forget just how great of a player Favre was in his prime. And he did it like Elway and Marino did for the majority of their careers - without a big name, Hall of Fame type WR. To say he's far from the greatest isn't being far to the guy. He's definitely one of the Top 5 QBs of all time.

Favre will be a HOFer. I've stated a few times in the past couple years in my defense of Favre, that he was one of my favorite players and I enjoyed watching him.

BUT, that still does not excuse what he's now become. He's making a mockery of him self.

HoustonFrog
05-28-2009, 03:31 PM
As far as his place among the greatest QBs ever, you'll get differing opinions from damn near everybody. Me personally, he's third on my last behind Elway and Montana, respectively. People forget just how great of a player Favre was in his prime. And he did it like Elway and Marino did for the majority of their careers - without a big name, Hall of Fame type WR. To say he's far from the greatest isn't being far to the guy. He's definitely one of the Top 5 QBs of all time.

There is no way I can put him that high. For all the years and stats he still only ended up with one SB. It wasn't like he was Marino putting up records the whole time with nothing. He did have Freeman, Driver and some other pretty darn good wideouts. I respected the way he played, etc and thought his love for what he did was great....until about 2 years back where this stuff tarnished him. He has lost as many big games as won them with some of his plays. I'd already put Brady above him for rings alone...he is in the Top 10 but not top 3. Johnny U is up there too.

BUT, that still does not excuse what he's now become. He's making a mockery of him self.

Right

CloakNNNdagger
05-28-2009, 04:29 PM
Michael Jordan is a very poor example to compare. His 1st very short retirement retirement was because he thought he had very little to prove in basketball and wanted to try his hand at another sport. He was not much of a baseball player, and that led to a very short-lived career. His second retirement was was because he absoluted had no more to prove, took up management in a team, but could not stay on the sidelines. But his body couldn't keep up anymore and he declared his final retirement. Prior to each retirement, he never screwed a team........they were all forewarned of his intentions.

Specnatz
05-28-2009, 04:40 PM
Michael Jordan is a very poor example to compare. His 1st very short retirement retirement was because he thought he had very little to prove in basketball and wanted to try his hand at another sport. He was not much of a baseball player, and that led to a very short-lived career. His second retirement was was because he absoluted had no more to prove, took up management in a team, but could not stay on the sidelines. But his body couldn't keep up anymore and he declared his final retirement. Prior to each retirement, he never screwed a team........they were all forewarned of his intentions.

Some folks believe his first retirement was because of his gambling and certain individuals he had dealings with. Instead of anything public he just walked away for almost 2 years. It is conjecture but there is more folks who believe this than you might think.

CloakNNNdagger
05-28-2009, 04:51 PM
Some folks believe his first retirement was because of his gambling and certain individuals he had dealings with. Instead of anything public he just walked away for almost 2 years. It is conjecture but there is more folks who believe this than you might think.

Boy, that brings back memories.

HoustonFrog
05-28-2009, 05:40 PM
Some folks believe his first retirement was because of his gambling and certain individuals he had dealings with. Instead of anything public he just walked away for almost 2 years. It is conjecture but there is more folks who believe this than you might think.

Bill Simmons makes reference to this all the time

Second Honeymoon
05-28-2009, 06:18 PM
if Favre wants to play and someone wants him to play for them, he should be able to play without us picking apart his motives. Love of the Game, Fame, Revenge, Closure, Money, and his place in NFL history are all motives that you could point to for him coming back, but why is that wrong? He is being a primadonna about everything and making everything on his terms, but that is the price you pay with an NFL legend.

It's a free world and if he wants to stick it to his old team, then that to me is to be respected. He wants to settle things on Lambeau Field and oh it would be a sight to behold. I think the Packers honestly hurt the guy and its pretty obvious that facing the Packers 2 times is a thing very high on his agenda. I am sure if Cutler was still in Denver, you could be hearing about Favre to Chicago rumors right about now. He doesn't care if its the Vikings, the Bears, well maybe he cares if it was the Lions but you get my point. He wants to put a whooping on the Packers. Vikings is a pretty nice fit for some Favre payback.

its blatantly obvious to anyone that Favre has handled this entirely the wrong way but thats not a reason to not want him to play. He is an all-time great and he just wants to try and end his career on better terms possibly being able to stick it to the Packers management in doing so. If the Vikings want him, then let them have him. Dude can still read a defense and would give the Vikes some more credibility behind center....and who doesn't want to see purple #4 jersey's on opening weekend against the Packers? I know I do and you know the NFL does. That is a huge deal and would give some serious seriously impressive TV ratings.

I am just not sure Favre is there physically to be able to do what he does for 16+ games. His arm, albeit injured, looked a little flat later in the season. Has he recovered? If he hasn't, and I say this in all due respect to Favre, but bringing in Favre in lieu of Rosenfels may not be a smart football move. Great marketing and energy boost to the team but if Favre isn't good to go, Sage would probably give you a better chance to win....especially with their OL, RB, and big play defense.

I love Favre but if he isn't in better shape than last year, he needs to hang it up. I hope he is in good shape and can play for the Vikings but not if he is going to fail and further tarnish his storied legacy. But at the end of the day its up to himself and a willing NFL GM/Head Coach to ultimately make that decision.

Texan JBZ
05-28-2009, 06:37 PM
There is no way I can put him that high. For all the years and stats he still only ended up with one SB. It wasn't like he was Marino putting up records the whole time with nothing. He did have Freeman, Driver and some other pretty darn good wideouts. I respected the way he played, etc and thought his love for what he did was great....until about 2 years back where this stuff tarnished him. He has lost as many big games as won them with some of his plays. I'd already put Brady above him for rings alone...he is in the Top 10 but not top 3. Johnny U is up there too.

What? :mcnugget: Look, I can conclude from your posts that you're not a big Favre fan at all. But let's get real. Brett Favre won 3 consecutive MVPs. He's the all-time leader in yards, tds, completions, attempts, victories as a starter, and consecutive starts. He took his team to 2 Super Bowls, won 1, and 4 NFC championship games.

And through his whole career, the best WR he ever had was Sterling Sharpe. Sterling is probably not in the top 25 of best WRs ever. Though, he was probably on his way until he got hurt. Other WRs that Favre had in Green Bay during his career: Robert Brooks, Antonio Freeman, Don Beebe, Desmond Howard, Andre Rison, Bill Schroeder, Derrick Mayes, (later on in his career) Donald Driver, Corey Bradford, Javon Walker, and Greg Jennings.

Speedy
05-28-2009, 07:18 PM
The difference between most of the guys above and Favre is that most still wanted to play and never said they would retire. Most were just willing to hang on while trying it with another team. Favre announced his retirement 3-4 years straight, then instead of letting the Packers, who supported him for a career, move on and get better and prepare, he kept holding them hostage by waiting it out. Then he did it to an extent where he turned on his former team and made them have to move forward. It was pure selfishness and being an attention whore. It's pretty pathetic.

Why does that matter to anybody? Who cares if he says he retires and comes back? What importance is it to you that you know what his deal is.

He's older now and at the end of a long, grinding NFL season, his body may feel like retiring. Once he's had a month or 3 to recoup and recover, maybe he feels like playing again. Who cares? I've never understood why that bothers people.

The Packers did what the Packers did. They could have said goodbye to Favre a long time ago and went on with their business, but they didn't. Favre held them hostage? Puh-lease.

As I said before, if the guy feels like he can play, which before his injury last year he was doing quite well, AND somebody wants him, why not play again?

I don't give a crap if he retires and unretires every other day. That's none of my business. I'm not going to tell someone that they can't do their livelihood any more. I just don't need to see everything about him reported 24/7. That's the only thing that bothers me. "Favre put on his right shoe first today instead of his left like he's done for four straight weeks. This could mean......" STFU already!!!!!

If Farve wants to play and a team wants him, more power to him. As long as it doesn't involve the Texans, I couldn't care any less if he retired every day.

Texecutioner
05-28-2009, 07:32 PM
Why does that matter to anybody? Who cares if he says he retires and comes back? What importance is it to you that you know what his deal is.

He's older now and at the end of a long, grinding NFL season, his body may feel like retiring. Once he's had a month or 3 to recoup and recover, maybe he feels like playing again. Who cares? I've never understood why that bothers people.

The Packers did what the Packers did. They could have said goodbye to Favre a long time ago and went on with their business, but they didn't. Favre held them hostage? Puh-lease.

As I said before, if the guy feels like he can play, which before his injury last year he was doing quite well, AND somebody wants him, why not play again?

I don't give a crap if he retires and unretires every other day. That's none of my business. I'm not going to tell someone that they can't do their livelihood any more. I just don't need to see everything about him reported 24/7. That's the only thing that bothers me. "Favre put on his right shoe first today instead of his left like he's done for four straight weeks. This could mean......" STFU already!!!!!

If Farve wants to play and a team wants him, more power to him. As long as it doesn't involve the Texans, I couldn't care any less if he retired every day.

Very good post and I totally agree.

If the guy still wants to play football, who is anyone else to tell him that he can't. That is what he loves to do, so why should he stop just because a few ESPN anchors want to only see him in HOF type of form. He is still better than a few QB's, so why should he not be able to play if he feels that his body can handle it?

People criticize him, but they should be criticizing ESPN and writing them letters that they won't ever watch their program anymore if they continue to talk about Farve all the time and make a big soap opera out of the whole thing. If you hate hearing about Farve, then either don't tune in, and send the message to ESPN that as a viewer you're sick of it, and if he plays he plays, if he retires he retires. ESPN is the network that won't get off of it. NOt Farve.

HoustonFrog
05-28-2009, 10:45 PM
What? :mcnugget: Look, I can conclude from your posts that you're not a big Favre fan at all. But let's get real. Brett Favre won 3 consecutive MVPs. He's the all-time leader in yards, tds, completions, attempts, victories as a starter, and consecutive starts. He took his team to 2 Super Bowls, won 1, and 4 NFC championship games.

And through his whole career, the best WR he ever had was Sterling Sharpe. Sterling is probably not in the top 25 of best WRs ever. Though, he was probably on his way until he got hurt. Other WRs that Favre had in Green Bay during his career: Robert Brooks, Antonio Freeman, Don Beebe, Desmond Howard, Andre Rison, Bill Schroeder, Derrick Mayes, (later on in his career) Donald Driver, Corey Bradford, Javon Walker, and Greg Jennings.

I said he was top 10, just not Top 3. I have watched football for over 30 years. Starting with guys like Staubach and Bradshaw. I take nothing away from Favre and his stats..some more dubious..most interceptions in history...but that is what happens when you play for close to 2 decades..you get stats. That doesn't make him Top 5 to me. And I'm not a Favre hater. He was one of my favorite non-Cowboys and an opponent whom I loved to watch play football. That ended 2 years ago.

And for those of that are incredulous that people are so mad about his actions, its pretty simple. Others have respected the game and their teams without pulling these stunts. I've never seen this in any other star in the NFL. You are clueless on how the league works if you think the Packers hands weren't tied when he first started doing this. Teams have to plan on the run. That is in F'agency and in the draft. It's one thing to change your mind, its another to hold off where a team that has stood by you can't make moves. And they couldn't just let him go without having repercussions. People don't begrudge the fact that the guy wants to play. They begrudge the fact that he has made a spectacle of it 4 times....crying, press conferences, etc...and then throwing hissy fits when the Pack tried to move on. Then he wanted revenge for something he caused. If you know it takes a few months before your head is clear, don't make statements that come back to haunt you. He never learned and in the end he looks foolish. It's not the medias fault...its his fault knowing that his acts lead to stories. You have to know your landscape. Football is a business but there are unwritten rules when it comes to stars and the teams that have supported them and number 1 is mutual respect.

Texan JBZ
05-29-2009, 09:14 AM
I said he was top 10, just not Top 3. I have watched football for over 30 years. Starting with guys like Staubach and Bradshaw. I take nothing away from Favre and his stats..some more dubious..most interceptions in history...but that is what happens when you play for close to 2 decades..you get stats. That doesn't make him Top 5 to me. And I'm not a Favre hater. He was one of my favorite non-Cowboys and an opponent whom I loved to watch play football. That ended 2 years ago.

And for those of that are incredulous that people are so mad about his actions, its pretty simple. Others have respected the game and their teams without pulling these stunts. I've never seen this in any other star in the NFL. You are clueless on how the league works if you think the Packers hands weren't tied when he first started doing this. Teams have to plan on the run. That is in F'agency and in the draft. It's one thing to change your mind, its another to hold off where a team that has stood by you can't make moves. And they couldn't just let him go without having repercussions. People don't begrudge the fact that the guy wants to play. They begrudge the fact that he has made a spectacle of it 4 times....crying, press conferences, etc...and then throwing hissy fits when the Pack tried to move on. Then he wanted revenge for something he caused. If you know it takes a few months before your head is clear, don't make statements that come back to haunt you. He never learned and in the end he looks foolish. It's not the medias fault...its his fault knowing that his acts lead to stories. You have to know your landscape. Football is a business but there are unwritten rules when it comes to stars and the teams that have supported them and number 1 is mutual respect.

You're right, football is a business. But you're wrong if you think it's about mutual respect. If it was about mutual respect, Joe Montana and Jerry Rice would have retired as 49ers, Emmitt Smith would have retired as a Cowgirl, Franco Harris would have retired as a Steeler, and O.J. Simpson would have retired as a Bill. It's about what can you do for me today. Favre wanted to come back to the Packers with no promises that he would be the starter. He only wanted the chance to compete for the position. Thompson and the Packers decided that is not what they wanted and that they had moved on with Aaron Rodgers. That's all well and good. So they try to keep Favre retired by offering him a front office position. He says that he wants to play again, and that if they've moved on with Rodgers then they should just release him so he can play elsewhere. They wouldn't do it. So he got pissed, probably like any of us would. The Packers were basically saying, "We don't want you anymore Brett, but we don't want you going anywhere that you want to go either, i.e. we don't want to play against you."

Favre may have been wrong for being so indecisive. But don't sit back and blame the whole thing on him. If the Packers didn't want the guy, they should have released him so he could go elsewhere. Both sides had faults, so where is the mutual respect? Just ssk Anquan Boldin, it doesn't exist.

One more thing. You mentioned Staubach and Bradshaw. These two guys had offensive weapons around them named Lynn Swann, Drew Pearson, Bob Hayes, Tony Dorsett, Jackie Smith, Franco Harris, and John Stallworth. All of these guys (except Pearson, which is a shame) are Hall of Famers. What Hall of Famer has Brett played with in his career?

Mr teX
05-29-2009, 02:34 PM
Favre will be a HOFer. I've stated a few times in the past couple years in my defense of Favre, that he was one of my favorite players and I enjoyed watching him.

BUT, that still does not excuse what he's now become. He's making a mockery of him self.

/close thread

CloakNNNdagger
06-06-2009, 10:09 AM
And Favre's sick game continues.
The Seattle Times reports: (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/othersports/2009307476_digs06.html)

Cook talks with Favre daily: Quarterback Brett Favre remains retired, as far as his agent is concerned.

The three-time league most valuable player's longtime representative, Bus Cook, said Friday he is unaware of any pending change in Favre's plans.

Cook said he speaks with the 39-year-old Favre daily, but added the chats usually aren't about football.

"He's my close friend," Cook said by phone from Hattiesburg, Miss. "He lives right up the road."

The Minnesota Vikings have expressed interest in Favre, who was released by the New York Jets in April.

Of the Vikings, Cook said, "I would think they would pull out all the stops if they want to get the guy."

CloakNNNdagger
06-08-2009, 07:34 AM
Favre has quietly had surgery last month. But he says that a decision to return will be based on his ability to recover. Same ole situation. Even though no real info has been released concerning his shoulder joint status, I am very suspect that even with his biceps release (which will only potentially improve the pain factor), the former will be still remaining and fueling continued poor performance. One thing I do know is that whether or not the release of the biceps gives Favre "relief," you can be certain that the release of Favre has given needed relief to both the Packers and the Jets........and their fans.
[LINK] (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4239344)

Specnatz
06-08-2009, 12:01 PM
I am confused how Farve is doing anything other than remaining quiet. He had an injury in his arm that is well documented and he had surgery to relieve pain. what a damn selfish bastard to have surgery to relieve pain.

Oh and by the way the Vikings perused him.

MojoMan
06-08-2009, 12:53 PM
Sources: Favre given deadline by coach (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4240888)

Minnesota Vikings coach Brad Childress has imposed a deadline of this week for Brett Favre to decide whether he will be the team's quarterback for the upcoming season, according to two sources.

Favre, however, is apparently reluctant to commit to playing a 19th NFL season without first being more confident the arthroscopic surgery performed recently on his throwing shoulder has succeeded in eliminating all of the problems related to a torn biceps tendon.

It would seem reasonable that both Favre and the Vikings want to know his shoulder is healthy before reaching an agreement, and the team is virtually certain to insist on seeing the 39-year-old quarterback throw before any contract is signed. Minnesota has four organized team activity sessions this week, beginning Tuesday.

While sources say Favre has done some throwing since the surgery, they describe him as being unconvinced that his passing arm is game-ready. Favre has always been unpredictable when making major career decisions, so only he would know what he will do if he believes the Vikings are forcing him to make a decision before he is fully prepared. Favre has claimed he did that two years ago in retiring from the Green Bay Packers even though he had doubts at the time, and he made a decision to leave the game that he began to regret even as he was announcing it.

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Mr teX
06-08-2009, 01:42 PM
go away Favre

Specnatz
06-08-2009, 02:21 PM
go away Media



Fixed

HOU-TEX
06-08-2009, 02:27 PM
Fixed

Ha, ain't that the truth?! I'm not really for Favre coming back, but the Media has been the primary problem. Throw in the Vick and TO chronicals too.

Ckw
06-08-2009, 04:05 PM
Ha, ain't that the truth?! I'm not really for Favre coming back, but the Media has been the primary problem. Throw in the Vick and TO chronicals too.

I don't buy that. Favre knows the media will hang on his every word/action. You know he is loving this. Quietly having surgery my ass. The guy is a freakin diva and is ruining his legacy.

Specnatz
06-08-2009, 04:31 PM
I don't buy that. Favre knows the media will hang on his every word/action. You know he is loving this. Quietly having surgery my ass. The guy is a freakin diva and is ruining his legacy.

Please show me a quote from Favre since he retired.

CloakNNNdagger
06-08-2009, 09:54 PM
Let's put it this way..........it's what he isn't saying. I'm not aware of any biceps/shoulder rehab that involves throwing a football...........unless you're a quarterback looking to be a quarterback.

Mr teX
06-09-2009, 08:06 AM
Let's put it this way..........it's what he isn't saying. I'm not aware of any biceps/shoulder rehab that involves throwing a football...........unless you're a quarterback looking to be a quarterback.


Exactly. If he came out & said "I'm done" filed his papers & then actually STAYED retired then the media wouldn't have anything to run with. Instead he's meeting with teams & unretiring every damn year. He just needs to sit his ass down somewhere & call it a career b/c he's done. The 2nd half of last year showed that...

Specnatz
06-09-2009, 08:42 AM
Exactly. If he came out & said "I'm done" filed his papers & then actually STAYED retired then the media wouldn't have anything to run with. Instead he's meeting with teams & unretiring every damn year. He just needs to sit his ass down somewhere & call it a career b/c he's done. The 2nd half of last year showed that...

So I guess anyone who continues to play with an injury is done? Or did you forget he tore the muscle in his arm and he played with it the last 6 games. The coaches should have changed the game plan but they did not and they got fired for that.

Actually he met with the Vikings coaches at his home, they went to him not the other way around. So why not blame the team or teams chasing him versus just him, because they are as much to blame as anyone for all of this. The Vikings created this circus by perusing him. If they had not come calling he would have not come back because right before that Brett had told Chris Mortenson that he was done and that he did not want to have the surgery in order to come back. I remember hearing that on NFL Live.

GP
06-09-2009, 09:10 AM
Favre needs to be wanted.

It's who he is. And he knows that some team, this year, will pursue him.

I used to get mad over it, now I actually HOPE he comes back...so that he can get crushed again and make it look even worse than last year.

Apparently, chewing tobacco DOES cause brain damage.

Mr teX
06-09-2009, 09:36 AM
So I guess anyone who continues to play with an injury is done? Or did you forget he tore the muscle in his arm and he played with it the last 6 games. The coaches should have changed the game plan but they did not and they got fired for that.

Actually he met with the Vikings coaches at his home, they went to him not the other way around. So why not blame the team or teams chasing him versus just him, because they are as much to blame as anyone for all of this. The Vikings created this circus by perusing him. If they had not come calling he would have not come back because right before that Brett had told Chris Mortenson that he was done and that he did not want to have the surgery in order to come back. I remember hearing that on NFL Live.


This would be all well & good if it weren't 4 years running with him pulling this crap.

Montana & Marino all had the same convoy of teams chasing them when they retired. The difference here is that they recognized the signs & stayed away. I'm not sure that Favre does; maybe he does he just choosing to ignore them. & don't act like the injury was the primary reason he sucked in the 2nd half of last season. He's been fading late in the 2nd half for the last 2 years & now he's sustained an injury that he couldn't play thru without effecting his play big time after 20 yrs. of being iron man. Those are signs that u need to hang it up.


The waivering on retiring/unretiring all the while holding the GB front office captive............ essentially just so he can skip out on training camp.

Trying to manuever into getting traded to Minnesota just so he could throw any success he might have back in the face of the Packers front office.

not sitting your ass on the bench when you know you aren't 100% & essentially costing the Jets a shot at the playoffs by throwing 9 picks in December just so u can extend your streak of most consecutive games started.

& now this.

he's being selfish & the sooner people stop paying attention to this diva the better off all of us will be.

Specnatz
06-09-2009, 09:45 AM
he's being selfish & the sooner people stop paying attention to this diva the better off all of us will be.

I would love to but every sports channel is covering it. More and more people say they are sick of hearing about it but espin and NFLN cover it constantly and you can not get away from it. If so many are sick of hearing about why do they still cover it?

Texecutioner
06-09-2009, 09:51 AM
I'll continue to laugh every time someone calls him "selfish" for wanting to play football and employ himself as a football player.

Like Specnats said, the Vikings have been persuing him, but Farve gets blamed for it. You don't see Farve out there doing interviews everywhere and trying to get his name out there like he needs all this attention. ESPN will give him attention whether he wants it or not.

I don't get why people get made at him for deciding that he wants to give it a go for another year. I've never seen such a public backlash from fans trying to "demand" that an athlete should retire.

If so many of you can't stand Farve, then complain to ESPN, because that's who won't ever stop talking about him. That's the network that makes this a non stop story. Hate ESPN for it then. Bashing Farve for playing a sport that he's played for over 15 years where there is a team that wants him to play is pretty selfish of the fans if you ask me.

gary
06-09-2009, 10:21 AM
I'll continue to laugh every time someone calls him "selfish" for wanting to play football and employ himself as a football player.

Like Specnats said, the Vikings have been persuing him, but Farve gets blamed for it. You don't see Farve out there doing interviews everywhere and trying to get his name out there like he needs all this attention. ESPN will give him attention whether he wants it or not.

I don't get why people get made at him for deciding that he wants to give it a go for another year. I've never seen such a public backlash from fans trying to "demand" that an athlete should retire.

If so many of you can't stand Farve, then complain to ESPN, because that's who won't ever stop talking about him. That's the network that makes this a non stop story. Hate ESPN for it then. Bashing Farve for playing a sport that he's played for over 15 years where there is a team that wants him to play is pretty selfish of the fans if you ask me.
Farve is not choosing this way of life I hope he stays away though because he is not the player he once was. Whatever he does I will fully support him though because that is his right. ESPN won't stop covering Farve for the love of money. Is that Farve's fault? No. Farve is a HOF QB and he knows what is best for him and he'll make the right move. The team is going after him so don't blame Farve for any of this BS nonstop coverage by yours truely we cover Brett Farve's every move ESPN. I am waiting for ESPN to start talking about Farve when he has to go to the bathroom that will be next I'm sure.

Txn_in_Oki
06-09-2009, 10:51 AM
I've pretty much had it with all the Favre talk. Sure the guy has been wishy-washy and the fans are aggavated but in the end it's his decision and not the fans.

People like to bring up that he will "tarnish" his image and he should let it go. Tarnish his career in whose eyes? Again, it's the fans complaining.

As long as Favre can wake up and look at himself in the mirror and be happy and satisfied with what he has done then good on him. I can't blame him for not wanting to spend his retirement thinking "What if".

gary
06-09-2009, 10:57 AM
It is his decision not the fans. Who are they? Unreal.

GP
06-09-2009, 05:36 PM
This would be all well & good if it weren't 4 years running with him pulling this crap.

Montana & Marino all had the same convoy of teams chasing them when they retired. The difference here is that they recognized the signs & stayed away. I'm not sure that Favre does; maybe he does he just choosing to ignore them. & don't act like the injury was the primary reason he sucked in the 2nd half of last season. He's been fading late in the 2nd half for the last 2 years & now he's sustained an injury that he couldn't play thru without effecting his play big time after 20 yrs. of being iron man. Those are signs that u need to hang it up.


The waivering on retiring/unretiring all the while holding the GB front office captive............ essentially just so he can skip out on training camp.

Trying to manuever into getting traded to Minnesota just so he could throw any success he might have back in the face of the Packers front office.

not sitting your ass on the bench when you know you aren't 100% & essentially costing the Jets a shot at the playoffs by throwing 9 picks in December just so u can extend your streak of most consecutive games started.

& now this.

he's being selfish & the sooner people stop paying attention to this diva the better off all of us will be.

espn.go.com is reporting that the Favre family has booked tickets for the Green Bay-Minnesota game. Apparently, some journalist found a way to get that information. Smart journo.

If this is correct, then there's obviously been some plan (for awhile now) and Favre has been smart enough to play the "I'm still retired" game. An old dog CAN learn new tricks, I suppose.

Like I said: I am thrilled for his comeback because he's wayyy past his prime--I'm hoping for a really big hit and just a minor black-out, not a brain-rattling severe concussion or anything (maybe loose a tooth and some profuse bleeding as he wobbles over to the sideline). Somebody better keep an eye on Jared Allen during offense-defense scrimmages this summer.

Or will Brett come out of the closet right when the season begins so he can avoid the summer work? I guess Childress is cleaning out a small office for Brett right about now...putting up some posters of tractors and stuff, jazzing up Favre's own locker room for him.

Sage will be revving his rotors on the sideline, just waiting for that all too familiar role to play out.

LOL. This has easily been more entertaining than Romo-T.O. or Ochosinkhole or anything else.

Brett Favre, the God Man in the Wrangler commercials, is coming back! Cue the endorsements! Prep the TV media! You, over there--make yourself useful and find that red carpet the Jets used last summer! People, people, people! We've got a show to put on! Hop to it! LOL.............

And the beat goes on....

GP
06-09-2009, 05:48 PM
May 20, 2032 headlines:

"Favre Unsure Of Return: Says He Needs A Few Weeks."

"Sun Rises In East, Sets in West."

"Water Seeks Its Own Level."

"Ice Still Cold, Fire Still Hot."

Wolf
06-09-2009, 07:29 PM
I'll continue to laugh every time someone calls him "selfish" for wanting to play football and employ himself as a football player.

Like Specnats said, the Vikings have been persuing him, but Farve gets blamed for it. You don't see Farve out there doing interviews everywhere and trying to get his name out there like he needs all this attention. ESPN will give him attention whether he wants it or not.

I don't get why people get made at him for deciding that he wants to give it a go for another year. I've never seen such a public backlash from fans trying to "demand" that an athlete should retire.

If so many of you can't stand Farve, then complain to ESPN, because that's who won't ever stop talking about him. That's the network that makes this a non stop story. Hate ESPN for it then. Bashing Farve for playing a sport that he's played for over 15 years where there is a team that wants him to play is pretty selfish of the fans if you ask me.

I have to agree with this.. I admit I am not following the favre story except for the headlines.. last I saw, Favre's agent says he is retired and not being a viking.. a few days ago all I see it "vikings asking favre for decision" .. I know the media is biased and there are a bunch of behind the scenes stuff .. but if the vikings are pursuing him .. how can one fault him. (again I am only going by headlines) esp if a team thinks their window of opportunity could be closing for a super bowl win and if they think Favre would challenge sage for the starting position or if sage went down, they think Favre would be better than Jackson (I know they wouldn't sign Favre and expect him to be backup, but just saying)

CloakNNNdagger
06-09-2009, 08:25 PM
espn.go.com is reporting that the Favre family has booked tickets for the Green Bay-Minnesota game. Apparently, some journalist found a way to get that information. Smart journo.

If this is correct, then there's obviously been some plan (for awhile now) and Favre has been smart enough to play the "I'm still retired" game. An old dog CAN learn new tricks, I suppose.

Like I said: I am thrilled for his comeback because he's wayyy past his prime--I'm hoping for a really big hit and just a minor black-out, not a brain-rattling severe concussion or anything (maybe loose a tooth and some profuse bleeding as he wobbles over to the sideline). Somebody better keep an eye on Jared Allen during offense-defense scrimmages this summer.

Or will Brett come out of the closet right when the season begins so he can avoid the summer work? I guess Childress is cleaning out a small office for Brett right about now...putting up some posters of tractors and stuff, jazzing up Favre's own locker room for him.

Sage will be revving his rotors on the sideline, just waiting for that all too familiar role to play out.

LOL. This has easily been more entertaining than Romo-T.O. or Ochosinkhole or anything else.

Brett Favre, the God Man in the Wrangler commercials, is coming back! Cue the endorsements! Prep the TV media! You, over there--make yourself useful and find that red carpet the Jets used last summer! People, people, people! We've got a show to put on! Hop to it! LOL.............

And the beat goes on....


I certainly wish you would stop belittling this important national issue!!!!!:tease:


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_qwWAqRv2Hpg/SIahBCSLXaI/AAAAAAAAAHM/60znBfN-rQM/s400/favredebate.jpg


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The Minnesota Vikings have at least temporarily suspended their pursuit of Brett Favre after the retired quarterback failed to report to organized team activities that began Tuesday as head coach Brad Childress had mandated, according to team and league sources.

The Vikings conveyed their decision in a phone call from vice president of football operations Rob Brzezinski to Bus Cook, the agent who represents Favre. An eventual agreement returning Favre to the NFL for a 19th season, this in a Vikings purple uniform, remains possible. The quarterback was encouraged to continue rehabilitation following arthroscopic surgery performed two weeks ago to repair a partially torn biceps tendon. According to sources, no timeframe has been discussed for the Vikings and Favre to reconsider their positions.

ESPN reported Monday that Childress had established a deadline of this week for Favre to make his decision. Favre declined to make a commitment because he remains uncertain that the surgery has been completely successful.
LINK (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4246757)

gary
06-10-2009, 11:50 AM
espn.go.com is reporting that the Favre family has booked tickets for the Green Bay-Minnesota game. Apparently, some journalist found a way to get that information. Smart journo.

If this is correct, then there's obviously been some plan (for awhile now) and Favre has been smart enough to play the "I'm still retired" game. An old dog CAN learn new tricks, I suppose.

Like I said: I am thrilled for his comeback because he's wayyy past his prime--I'm hoping for a really big hit and just a minor black-out, not a brain-rattling severe concussion or anything (maybe loose a tooth and some profuse bleeding as he wobbles over to the sideline). Somebody better keep an eye on Jared Allen during offense-defense scrimmages this summer.

Or will Brett come out of the closet right when the season begins so he can avoid the summer work? I guess Childress is cleaning out a small office for Brett right about now...putting up some posters of tractors and stuff, jazzing up Favre's own locker room for him.

Sage will be revving his rotors on the sideline, just waiting for that all too familiar role to play out.

LOL. This has easily been more entertaining than Romo-T.O. or Ochosinkhole or anything else.

Brett Favre, the God Man in the Wrangler commercials, is coming back! Cue the endorsements! Prep the TV media! You, over there--make yourself useful and find that red carpet the Jets used last summer! People, people, people! We've got a show to put on! Hop to it! LOL.............

And the beat goes on....To come back to get a tooth knocked out? This is NOT your call it is Brett's call to make and fans do NOT have a right to choose anything for a HOF to be QB if he is doing what he loves. Just as you and everyone else do whatever they love that is within the law of course. Teams are coming after him for the most part and for you to site and post that you he gets hurt while doing his job is low on your part. It won't happen I know but he might play past 40 and that is out of our control as fans. Deep down Brett knows his playing days are numbered if he does come back at all. He should stay retired though and not risk anything I agree. That is what I'd do but whatever he does is way out of anyone's control and his right and also the team's right to take a chance on him if they want to do so. They'd tell Brett no if they did not want him but they do. Everyone has a right to do the job that they love for along as they want within a reasonable time frame IMO.

TimeKiller
06-10-2009, 03:25 PM
Brett Farve isn't reasonable though.....



At his age, I wouldn't be trying to replicate Troy Aikman's exit....but who am I? If he gets knocked the hell out it'll be his own damn fault and anybody who wants to watch it on youtube over and over will be perfectly fine doing it.

gary
06-10-2009, 03:29 PM
If wants to do damage to his own career then let him.

Drew_Smoke
06-10-2009, 06:06 PM
Farve WILL play. I would bet money on it.

Come back July 15th or so and see where we are.

TimeKiller
06-11-2009, 07:46 AM
If wants to do damage to his own career then let him.

Isn't that exactly what everyone has done for the last 2/3 years? EXACTLY?!? He's having to send x-rays of his hamburger meat arm to teams before they'll talk to him.

If I'm an opposing DLineman to Brett Favre I'm taking him out of the game. And I don't mean the particular game we are in, I mean football.

Texecutioner
06-11-2009, 10:18 AM
Wow, the hatred for Farve is so bad that people want him to get hurt.:confused:

I just don't understand why people care so much about this guy still wanting to play. Why isn't everyone throwing fits because Jeff Garcia is still playing? Why isn't everyone throwing fits since Warner is still playing. They are both right about the same age, give or take a year or two.

He has been a football player his entire life, and people expect this guy to just retire if he still wants to compete in the NFL and teams still want him. That makes absolutely not sense. Farve is easily still better than plenty of the QB's in the NFL. Why aren't people complaining about Duante Culpepper still playing with a as garbage as he is? I wonder how many of you guys would act if someone told you guys that you shouldn't be doing your job anymore and bashed you relentlessly and even wanted y'all to get hurt just so you wouldn't play anymore. I wonder how some of y'all would feel.

infantrycak
06-11-2009, 10:25 AM
Wow, the hatred for Farve is so bad that people want him to get hurt.:confused:

I just don't understand why people care so much about this guy still wanting to play. Why isn't everyone throwing fits because Jeff Garcia is still playing? Why isn't everyone throwing fits since Warner is still playing. They are both right about the same age, give or take a year or two.

I don't want the guy to get hurt, but I think the answer to your questions is pretty obvious. Garcia and Warner say they want to play and have consistently said they want to play. If Favre had done the same I doubt anyone in the world would be criticizing Favre. It is his toe in, toe out, gee shucks I just don't know resulting in the Favre Watch for the past 4 years that separates him from any other player and motivates the distaste.

Texecutioner
06-11-2009, 11:27 AM
I don't want the guy to get hurt, but I think the answer to your questions is pretty obvious. Garcia and Warner say they want to play and have consistently said they want to play. If Favre had done the same I doubt anyone in the world would be criticizing Favre. It is his toe in, toe out, gee shucks I just don't know resulting in the Favre Watch for the past 4 years that separates him from any other player and motivates the distaste.

Okay, maybe that question was somewhat rhetoical, but I don't see why people can't understand that it's hard for a guy to make a decision to want to play at his age. On one hand he doesn't want to have to go through the grueling season and the training camp and everything else, but he still has that itch to play on Sundays and that competitive nature, so I can see why a guy his age might have a hard time deciding on what to do. Now the way that he's carried it out these last few years has been pretty silly and all, but that is his right to do and teams still want him, so why not have a back lash at the teams that want him to play for them and will allow him to do this? GB cetainly got fed up with it, and finally told him no, so he had to go somewhere else, and that was devestating to Farve and everyone knew it, so he's clearly already had to reap what he sowed to some degree by going and having to play for a team that he didn't want to play for.

And now Minnesota is still nagging him to play and so that's where he wanted to go in the first place, so people have a problem with him about it, all because of ESPN covering it non stop well that isn't his fault and he doesn't control the media and that godly awful station called ESPN. The anger here needs to be directed at ESPN for constantly covering this guy. ESPN thinks that it brings in good ratings, but they get ratings no matter what they do practically since they're a monopoly of the sports networks, and THEY are the ones that make this out to be the irritating situation that it is. They are the ones that cram it down the viewers throats. So direct the anger at the place that is giving you the non stop coverage of it. Not the guy who is just doing what he loves to do and has done for the last 15 years and more.

TimeKiller
06-11-2009, 11:38 AM
Okay, maybe that question was somewhat rhetoical, but I don't see why people can't understand that it's hard for a guy to make a decision to want to play at his age. On one hand he doesn't want to have to go through the grueling season and the training camp and everything else, but he still has that itch to play on Sundays and that competitive nature, so I can see why a guy his age might have a hard time deciding on what to do. Now the way that he's carried it out these last few years has been pretty silly and all, but that is his right to do and teams still want him, so why not have a back lash at the teams that want him to play for them and will allow him to do this? This makes me want to buy enough packs of crayons to make a purple crayon sandwich, eat it, crap it out in the shape of the number 4 and send it to the Vikings.
I don't know what kind of back lash you're looking for my friend but crapping a purple sandwich and sending it to the Vikings definitely counts as a back lash.


all because of ESPN covering it non stop well that isn't his fault and he doesn't control the media and that godly awful station called ESPN.
I don't believe that. Not even for a second. Brett Favre has ESPN in his pocket. They hang on every word. If he committed himself to what he says then this would be over. 3 times over.

Texecutioner
06-11-2009, 11:59 AM
I don't know what kind of back lash you're looking for my friend but crapping a purple sandwich and sending it to the Vikings definitely counts as a back lash.


I don't believe that. Not even for a second. Brett Favre has ESPN in his pocket. They hang on every word. If he committed himself to what he says then this would be over. 3 times over.

Okay, but that's his right to do what he wants and take time to decide and then change his mind if he wants. He has ever right to do that. The only reason why any of it is significant is because ESPN won't stop covering it and making it their obsession. You don't see every other sports network all over it like ESPN is. It;s just that there is no other big time sports network like ESPN to compete for viewership so viewers like yourself and myself as well are at the mercy of whatever that garbage network covers as far as sports. Farve isn't out there all over ESPN doing interviews though, he's not out there calling them up trying to give exclusives. He actually does the opposite and stays away. Then people come out and act like this is all his fault for doing what they want him to do which is to stay away from the media so they don't have to hear about him, but the media (ESPN) won't stop covering the issue no matter what he does.

At the end of the day, he has every right to decide to play or not play or change his mind 50 times if he wants. If the NFL teams like the Vikings are comfortable with him doing that then there should be no reason why you or anyone else is angered over it, unless you're a die hard Vikings fan that doesn't want Farve as your QB. The only people that should be mad about Farve right now are Vikings fans that don't want him there. Other than that, his business of what team he plays for or retires has no bearing on you or I or anyone else. If you can't stand hearing about him, then contact ESPN about it, because that is the sole culprit in the Farve watch and the non stop Farve coverage.

gary
06-11-2009, 07:43 PM
Okay, but that's his right to do what he wants and take time to decide and then change his mind if he wants. He has ever right to do that. The only reason why any of it is significant is because ESPN won't stop covering it and making it their obsession. You don't see every other sports network all over it like ESPN is. It;s just that there is no other big time sports network like ESPN to compete for viewership so viewers like yourself and myself as well are at the mercy of whatever that garbage network covers as far as sports. Farve isn't out there all over ESPN doing interviews though, he's not out there calling them up trying to give exclusives. He actually does the opposite and stays away. Then people come out and act like this is all his fault for doing what they want him to do which is to stay away from the media so they don't have to hear about him, but the media (ESPN) won't stop covering the issue no matter what he does.

At the end of the day, he has every right to decide to play or not play or change his mind 50 times if he wants. If the NFL teams like the Vikings are comfortable with him doing that then there should be no reason why you or anyone else is angered over it, unless you're a die hard Vikings fan that doesn't want Farve as your QB. The only people that should be mad about Farve right now are Vikings fans that don't want him there. Other than that, his business of what team he plays for or retires has no bearing on you or I or anyone else. If you can't stand hearing about him, then contact ESPN about it, because that is the sole culprit in the Farve watch and the non stop Farve coverage.:goodpost::goodpost::goodpost:

MojoMan
06-12-2009, 04:28 PM
The drama continues...

Vikings Staffers to observe Favre soon (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4254290)

In the next few days a Minnesota Vikings trainer and a member of the team's coaching staff intend to travel to Hattiesburg, Miss., to work with retired quarterback Brett Favre, a source close to the situation tells ESPN.

The Vikings staffers will be assessing Favre's progress since having arthroscopic surgery to repair a partially torn biceps tendon in recent weeks. Favre already has resumed throwing, but he doesn't know yet if his arm will be healthy enough to allow him to play a 19th NFL season.

Training camp begins in seven weeks. Sources said Favre had surgery two weeks ago.

Favre did not report to organized team activities that began Tuesday.

gary
06-12-2009, 06:27 PM
Farve will play so ESPN might as well say it now and the first to report it.

GP
06-14-2009, 12:01 AM
I don't want the guy to get hurt, but I think the answer to your questions is pretty obvious. Garcia and Warner say they want to play and have consistently said they want to play. If Favre had done the same I doubt anyone in the world would be criticizing Favre. It is his toe in, toe out, gee shucks I just don't know resulting in the Favre Watch for the past 4 years that separates him from any other player and motivates the distaste.

Exactly.

Garcia isn't pulling this crap.

Warner took a very brief pause to check his mindset, and then he made his decision quickly and even re-signed with his current team. Bravo!

Favre is borderline whack-o, IMO. He needs the attention. Hell, he's even got the Vikings flying down to Nowheresville, Mississippi to check him out like he's a high school kid playing in the state championship game. The guy is done. Except he is leveraging his past successes for this annual ego trip he likes to take everyone on.

If anybody looks more foolish than Favre, it's Crazy Ray Childress. How desperate is your QB sitch that you've gotta' employ Lee Majors' stunt double for the QB job? LOL.

I don't want to see Brett Favre get seriously hurt. Just a little ding, something along the lines of a split chin with some spurtage as he grins and walks to the sideline...and then the Copter swoops in to save the day.

Cue the Keystone Cops music!

CloakNNNdagger
06-14-2009, 07:28 AM
Let's take a look at a page out of the retirement playbook of one of the greatest, Junior Seau (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2548201):


Before the news conference, Seau, 37, said he feels fine after injuries cut short his last two seasons with Miami.

"I'm healthy, I can play and there are teams out there that had interest, but they just didn't need [me]," Seau said. "They wanted me, but they didn't need me. I'm not a player that can play by just wanting to play the game. I'm a guy that needs to win, and they go hand in hand."

During the news conference, Seau both quoted from scripture and offered a message to the current players.

"You probably thought you were going to hear about football. It ain't about football anymore, all right? I'm going to tell you the truth: Respect the game. Love the game. Stop pushing the game away, youth. Because you know what? The game is going to go anyway. The game's going to leave you anyway. So why not embrace it? I loved that game."

Then, he quipped: "I almost cried."

"So please, understand when I say this," Seau added, "I'm not retiring. I am graduating. Today is my graduation day. Retirement means that you'll just go ahead and live on your laurels and surf all day in Oceanside. It ain't going to happen."

Grams
06-14-2009, 08:18 AM
This is like an old time silent film with the sound out or sync with the picture.

The actor is shaking his head no, no no while the sound is saying yes, yes, yes.

I am retired.

I am gong to play.

I am retired

I am going to play.

etc, etc.

Just make up your mind. Make a decision and stick to it.

I think he has lost a lot of fans with his constant indecisions.

gary
06-14-2009, 09:43 AM
He has lost lots of and that is the bad thing all because he doesn't want to make his mind. Staying retired would be the best thing for him to do. Fans are starting to overlook his HOF career a little bit because of all this going on. Do he cares what fans thinks he should do? I doubt it.

CloakNNNdagger
06-16-2009, 07:35 AM
Some "clarifying" words straight from Favre's mouth. Summary: "Maybe." LINK (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/06/15/favre-my-intentions-are-not-to-create-controversy/)

gary
06-16-2009, 02:30 PM
Favre will sign in early or mid July just in time for TC and preseason.

False Start
06-17-2009, 09:06 AM
Favre half robot?... :heh:

Link (http://weeklyworldnews.com/sports/9057/favre-admits-hes-half-robot/)

Texecutioner
06-24-2009, 04:05 PM
I love the smell of vindication in the morning.

It smells like Febreze.

Mark Rosen of WCCO reports that, indeed, the Vikings and quarterback Brett Favre have agreed to terms on a contract, and that Favre will attend training camp.

Unless, you know, he doesn’t.

Rosen also confirms our report that purple jerseys bearing Favre’s number and name already have been ordered.

From our perspective, there was no doubt about it. Though the manner in which it came to us was unusual, the point was that a source in position to know the truth thereafter told us, “I can’t tell you anything, but I will not deny it either, and I’ll leave it at that.”


http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/real_scouts/entry/view/25884/Report_of_Favre_to_Vikes_Confirmed

Honoring Earl 34
06-24-2009, 04:11 PM
I love the smell of vindication in the morning.

It smells like Febreze.

Mark Rosen of WCCO reports that, indeed, the Vikings and quarterback Brett Favre have agreed to terms on a contract, and that Favre will attend training camp.

Unless, you know, he doesn’t.

Rosen also confirms our report that purple jerseys bearing Favre’s number and name already have been ordered.

From our perspective, there was no doubt about it. Though the manner in which it came to us was unusual, the point was that a source in position to know the truth thereafter told us, “I can’t tell you anything, but I will not deny it either, and I’ll leave it at that.”


http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/real_scouts/entry/view/25884/Report_of_Favre_to_Vikes_Confirmed

Is it just me or does anyone else want to see the Packers kick his ass ?

NitroGSXR
06-24-2009, 04:20 PM
Is it just me or does anyone else want to see the Packers kick his ass ?
I'd love for him to throw 500+ yards and 6 TDs against the Packers. I don't know why.

gary
06-24-2009, 04:30 PM
We all knew this was going to happen it was just a matter of time.

Killer Bee
06-24-2009, 04:31 PM
The saga continues. Now I have to hear about Farve all off season. It was inevitable going to happen

GP
06-24-2009, 04:35 PM
Barf.

This guy has screws loose in his head. Oh well, it's the marriage of two fools as far as I am concerned. Let the nutty honeymoon begin...:scarygirl:

PapaL
06-24-2009, 04:41 PM
Magic 8Ball says:
Peterson gets hurt; Favre struggles yet again - retires again, Minn misses playoff.

HOU-TEX
06-24-2009, 04:51 PM
The saga continues. Now I have to hear about Farve all off season. It was inevitable going to happen

Going to happen? We've already had to endure the past 2 months of it.

TimeKiller
06-24-2009, 05:06 PM
I hope Jared Allen takes his knees out in camp....

Killer Bee
06-24-2009, 05:36 PM
Going to happen? We've already had to endure the past 2 months of it.

Your right but it wasn't half as bad as last year's fiasco. Now there's no news until training camp, so it's going to get drummed up even more.

Second Honeymoon
06-24-2009, 06:02 PM
This is great news. The Packers get no sympathy from me as Ted Thompson made his bed and now he has to lay in it.

The Packers/Vikings game is going to get just insane ratings and should be a bloodbath and really intense. The season can not get here fast enough.

p.s. I know Favre has not handled things well, but he got where he wanted to go all along. He just had to wait a year and fake retire from the Jets. Brilliant move.

CloakNNNdagger
06-24-2009, 06:22 PM
While we're throwing out predictions, here's mine. His shoulder won't make it through the season........or the Vikings will have wished it didn't. When Favre is no longer a factor, Sage will get the opportunity he was promised........and make his mark.

BTW, we'll get an early opportunity in preseason to go after Favre.........and help Sage's starting career get going.

Killer Bee
06-24-2009, 06:31 PM
This is great news. The Packers get no sympathy from me as Ted Thompson made his bed and now he has to lay in it.

The Packers/Vikings game is going to get just insane ratings and should be a bloodbath and really intense. The season can not get here fast enough.

p.s. I know Favre has not handled things well, but he got where he wanted to go all along. He just had to wait a year and fake retire from the Jets. Brilliant move.

Agreed. I love watching Farve play, but I just don't want to be constantly bombarded with it.

Oh, and I predict his shoulder makes it all the way to the NFC championship game, where it throws a game losing pick.

Hervoyel
06-24-2009, 10:29 PM
I'm so tired of this "Bataan Death March" of a story that I am now officially a fan of every single DE that the Vikings play against for the remainder of Favre's zombie-like undead career.

Goldensilence
06-24-2009, 10:58 PM
This is great news. The Packers get no sympathy from me as Ted Thompson made his bed and now he has to lay in it.

The Packers/Vikings game is going to get just insane ratings and should be a bloodbath and really intense. The season can not get here fast enough.

p.s. I know Favre has not handled things well, but he got where he wanted to go all along. He just had to wait a year and fake retire from the Jets. Brilliant move.

Packers made the right move for a guy who was hijacking the team every off-season. His replacement, while not the hall of fame bound QB FAvre is passed for over 4,000 yards, 28 touchdowns and managed a 93.8 QB rating.

Favre wasn't too bad himself with yardage last year and completion percentage with 3,400 yards and a little over 65 %. What hurt bad was 22 touchdowns vs 22 ints. That's a 1 to ratio where Rodgers was slightly over 2 to 1.

Not saying Rodgers is the HOfer Favre is but....I might get flamed to death on saying it but Favre was out played by a younger player who demonstratively made better decisions. Next year I think Rodgers will be even better after a full year starting and hopefully a defense that can tighten up in some areas.

Favre is capable of playing but I would take it at a buyer beware tag. I would think they might limit his passing attempts to a more manageable 20-25 and let Peterson and Taylor grind out yards to save his shoulder.

I think you really could consult a magic 8 ball about Favre starting in Minnesota this year. Could be really bad considering Favre's gunslinger mentality and the WR corps there or could be good if they can keep his throws limited and count more on Peterson and Taylor to carry the offense.

GP
06-25-2009, 12:31 AM
(sigh).....

How am I ever going to photoshop Favre, in a Vikings jersey, on a motorized scooter throwing an interception?

Everything's so damned complicated with Brett. :hairpull:

OzzO
06-25-2009, 12:17 PM
Here ya go - steps 1 & 2 complete.

http://jkracker.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/favrevikingsqb.jpg

GP
06-25-2009, 01:00 PM
I found the url, but no clue as to who actually photoshopped that.

It is really good work! The jersey number, the face, it looks eerily real.

Great find. Rep your way.

rockabilly
06-25-2009, 01:04 PM
My point of view is that we shouldn't be blaming Favre for the comebacks....we should be blaming the teams that go after them...and im not even sure of that either.

It may be annoying to some of us to have to hear about Favre every year, but Im on his side that he should do what he wants. He obviously loves the game - if teams are still asking for him, how can he not want to play?

If you retired from your job, but companies still want to make you great offers to play for them and you love your job - but you are getting old, its not the easiest decision to say no.

CloakNNNdagger
06-25-2009, 08:56 PM
You've got to feel for Rosenfels LINK (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/06/25/rosenfels-says-hes-competing-for-starting-job-as-of-right-now/)

El Tejano
06-26-2009, 09:16 AM
You've got to feel for Rosenfels LINK (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/06/25/rosenfels-says-hes-competing-for-starting-job-as-of-right-now/)

Not really. He had a perfect gig here. Heck, there was a better chance that he would've eventually been the starter here with Matt's injuries and all but he wanted out and so we gave him what he wanted.

CloakNNNdagger
06-26-2009, 01:50 PM
Not really. He had a perfect gig here. Heck, there was a better chance that he would've eventually been the starter here with Matt's injuries and all but he wanted out and so we gave him what he wanted.

Not anywhere the same situation...........He signed with the Vikings with the mutual understanding that he would be competing only with Tavaris Jackson. His winning that battle was short of a no-brainer. Whether you like Rosenfels or not, he's essentially gotten screwed by the .

Ryan
06-26-2009, 06:52 PM
I hope Aaron Rodgers asks Favre how his ass tastes after the Packers stomp him a couple times.

Texecutioner
06-26-2009, 07:03 PM
You've got to feel for Rosenfels LINK (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/06/25/rosenfels-says-hes-competing-for-starting-job-as-of-right-now/)

Really sucks for Sage. Despite some people on here hating Sage, I'll always root for the guy.

I really would have liked to see Sage end up in Detroit and competing with Culpepper. I don't think Culpepper deserves to start anywhere and I think Sage would do a much better job. At least the Texans were able to benefit with a 4th round pick from Minnesota for a guy that they will never even use this season.

CloakNNNdagger
06-26-2009, 08:47 PM
I hope Aaron Rodgers asks Favre how his ass tastes after the Packers stomp him a couple times.

Uhhhhhhhhh.........."Tender"

dc_txtech
06-27-2009, 10:08 AM
Not anywhere the same situation...........He signed with the Vikings with the mutual understanding that he would be competing only with Tavaris Jackson. His winning that battle was short of a no-brainer. Whether you like Rosenfels or not, he's essentially gotten screwed by the .

Gotta disagree here, even my girlfriend knew Favre wasn't going to retire. If Sage didn't think there was a good chance of Favre going to Minnesota then he must not be that bright.

Regardless, I'll be rooting for Sage.

gary
06-27-2009, 10:12 AM
My point of view is that we shouldn't be blaming Favre for the comebacks....we should be blaming the teams that go after them...and im not even sure of that either.

It may be annoying to some of us to have to hear about Favre every year, but Im on his side that he should do what he wants. He obviously loves the game - if teams are still asking for him, how can he not want to play?

If you retired from your job, but companies still want to make you great offers to play for them and you love your job - but you are getting old, its not the easiest decision to say no.You are spot on with this post. Now if Favre falls flat on his face and ends up being out for the season then so be it he would bring that on himself at his age I'll admit. But none of us have any control over his personal life at all. NFL teams want to take a chane on him lasting a whole season as well as him wanting to play and also take a chance. Folks act like the NFL has age rules when they do not. No pro league does that I know of.

Second Honeymoon
06-27-2009, 10:46 AM
When is this thing going to finally be official? They are reportedly already producing Favre 4 Viking jerseys.

This is about settling scores with Favre. It's not a money grab and that is why I am behind this move. Favre has earned the right to be able to settle a score with Thompson. I love the fact that the guy has so much pride that he is willing to walk on hot coals to have a chance to settle a personal vendetta or beef. He wants to settle it on the football field once and for all, and that I admire. He is risking eating a whole lot of humble pie if the Vikings don't improve, but its worth it to him. How is that not just being a badass?

He hasn't handled everything well, and you could argue that his 'retiring' from the Jets was pure manipulation or even perhaps collusion, but other than that no one should have a problem with Favre facing the Pack. It's a great story and should make for an intense opening weekend.

It's not a done deal and this is Favre we are talking about, so who the hell knows what is going to happen but I think its about 80% that he is starting Week One v. the Packers.

gary
06-27-2009, 11:09 AM
When is this thing going to finally be official? They are reportedly already producing Favre 4 Viking jerseys.

This is about settling scores with Favre. It's not a money grab and that is why I am behind this move. Favre has earned the right to be able to settle a score with Thompson. I love the fact that the guy has so much pride that he is willing to walk on hot coals to have a chance to settle a personal vendetta or beef. He wants to settle it on the football field once and for all, and that I admire. He is risking eating a whole lot of humble pie if the Vikings don't improve, but its worth it to him. How is that not just being a badass?

He hasn't handled everything well, and you could argue that his 'retiring' from the Jets was pure manipulation or even perhaps collusion, but other than that no one should have a problem with Favre facing the Pack. It's a great story and should make for an intense opening weekend.

It's not a done deal and this is Favre we are talking about, so who the hell knows what is going to happen but I think its about 80% that he is starting Week One v. the Packers.
Farve wanted to go the Vickings when the Packers wanted to trade him but Green Bay wouldn't send him there. He retired from the Jets only to come back and go where he really wanted to go in the first place.

GP
07-02-2009, 10:01 AM
Favre's return is going to take a bit of a ratings hit, on TV and the web, since Miley Cyrus and Nick Jonas just got back together.

Favre is back.

Miley and Nick are together again.

It's like order has been restored to the universe.

Battle Red Flash
07-02-2009, 03:08 PM
Don't Care.
Don't Care.
Don't Care.

Texecutioner
07-02-2009, 03:38 PM
Miley and Nick are together again.

It's like order has been restored to the universe.

What!!!???

When did this happen???? :piano::excited::thankyou::party:

GP
07-02-2009, 03:51 PM
Don't Care.
Don't Care.
Don't Care.

LOL!!!!

But...but...you MUST feel some sort of joy. Favre. Nick and Miley. Love. :heart:

I guess I will have to pull the "O" card since you're not overjoyed yet: OBAMA.

Do you feel anything now? Do you have a pulse?!?!

CloakNNNdagger
07-28-2009, 05:08 PM
Could it actually be true................this time??????? (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/07/28/curran-vikings-closing-the-door-of-favre/)

Curran: Vikings closing the door of Favre

Some of you already have raised the possibility that Brett Favre's decision to stay retired is the latest example of Favre's "for now"-style statements, and that he'll change his mind in a week or two and join the Vikings.

Tom Curran just called me and said that the feeling in the organization in the wake of Favre's call to coach Brad Childress is that the door has closed.

"It's over," Curran said.

We all should only be so lucky for that to be true.

Meanwhile, FOX's Jay Glazer reports that Childress has begun the process of calling players to inform them of the news.


"I just got off the phone with Brad, and Brett said he's staying retired," defensive end Jared Allen told Glazer. "He said he couldn't deal with the daily grind. He said he felt like he let us down before it got started.

"You know what, we were never really sure he was coming anyway, so we've always backed up Tarvaris [Jackson] and Sage [Rosenfels]. We feel we can win with the guys we have here. I'm glad it's over."

Again we should all be so lucky for that to be true.

jaayteetx
07-28-2009, 05:37 PM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/6551452.html
Good for Sage, I say.

Texan_Bill
07-28-2009, 05:54 PM
:hmmm: What other NFC Central team could use a QB for a season while someone else learns?? :thinking:

Nah, hopefully it is finally over.

GP
07-28-2009, 06:51 PM
Finally.

The Brett is 100% done.

Next stop: Coaching or TV commentator.

Showtime100
07-28-2009, 06:58 PM
As long as Favre is within the realm of being able to get healthy enough to play again I will never say never again.

CloakNNNdagger
07-28-2009, 07:07 PM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/6551452.html
Good for Sage, I say.


My exact thought.

Pantherstang84
07-28-2009, 08:26 PM
Har Har Har Har! Favre leaves them at the alter. Love it!

StarStruck
07-28-2009, 09:07 PM
Har Har Har Har! Favre leaves them at the alter. Love it!

I talked to AD last month and he seemed to be quite receptive to the possibility. So perhaps some of the team members could be a bit disappointed.

Hardcore Texan
07-28-2009, 09:30 PM
If, and a big if, he doesn't change his mind when he changes his underwear tomorrow, good and about damn time, I hope we don't have to watch his highlights for another straight week and miss actual news because he decided to "retire" again. :gun:

GP
07-29-2009, 01:17 AM
Anybody notice that the espn.com headline for this story was "Favre Passes"

In light of all the sports stars ending up dead (McNair, Gatti, etc.) recently, don't you think someone at ESPN would have had a red flag go up, in regards to the headline "Favre Passes"?

Sheesh. :thinking:

GermanTexan
07-29-2009, 03:05 AM
Im not sure, if we should believe he will stay retired... he´s in good shape... lets wait a few more days

HOU-TEX
07-29-2009, 09:30 AM
Wise decision, Brett. Stay retired, get inducted and spend your time with the family.

drewmar74
07-29-2009, 10:50 AM
Wise decision, Brett. Stay retired, get inducted and spend your time with the family.

Start seeing if you can mend fences with the Pack enough to get a piece of that marketing deal they had offered.