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djohn2oo8
04-20-2009, 05:28 PM
Darren Lyn of ESPN Confidential reported that the texans are looking at (of course we already knew) Brian Cushing, Clay Matthews, but also Rey Meuiluga, Aaron Maybin, and Robert Ayers. He said that the Texans are going to be looking to fill gaps in the first two rounds.

Texecutioner
04-20-2009, 05:31 PM
Darren Lyn of ESPN Confidential reported that the texans are looking at (of course we already knew) Brian Cushing, Clay Matthews, but also Rey Meuiluga, Aaron Maybin, and Robert Ayers. He said that the Texans are going to be looking to fill gaps in the first two rounds.

Bring on Meuiluga. Best LB out of the bunch. I'd take Meuiluga over all of those guys. Maybin would be nice to have as well.

prostock101
04-20-2009, 05:48 PM
Why are we not looking hard at this guy? Laurinaitis looks like the real deal. I see everyone slobbering over the USC bunch but why not him?

http://profootball.scout.com/2/858071.html

Blake
04-20-2009, 06:43 PM
Ayers, really? No way... I would be disappointed.

rmartin65
04-20-2009, 06:54 PM
No to Ayers, Cushing, and Matthews (at the 15). And I am not really a fan of Maualuga. Damn, I am in for a disappointment.

DiehardChris
04-20-2009, 06:55 PM
Levitre would be great, especially if he fell to the 3rd.

Texan4Ever
04-20-2009, 07:01 PM
I believe that we should go ahead and trade out of the 1st round completely and pickup more 2nd and 3rd round picks since we've been successful in finding better quality talented players not in the 1st round.

ArlingtonTexan
04-20-2009, 07:10 PM
Why are we not looking hard at this guy? Laurinaitis looks like the real deal. I see everyone slobbering over the USC bunch but why not him?

http://profootball.scout.com/2/858071.html

The Texans have had him in for a visit. Who knows which of these guys the Texans really like?

Ohio State inside linebacker James Laurinaitis, whose well-known father wrestled under the name “Animal” with The Road Warriors’ championship tag team, has drawn heavy interest from NFL teams, according to Scout.com.

Laurinaitis has taken official visits with the New Orleans Saints, Houston Texans and the Kansas City Chiefs.



http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/

texasguy346
04-20-2009, 07:17 PM
I believe that we should go ahead and trade out of the 1st round completely and pickup more 2nd and 3rd round picks since we've been successful in finding better quality talented players not in the 1st round.

I'm thinking we trade back with the Eagles. I'm guessing they'll take Moreno or perhaps Jenkins.

TimeKiller
04-20-2009, 07:21 PM
Even Maybin I could handle but Ayers? C'mon that's a 2nd round DE who soared up in the last month, I'd rather take Michael Johnson at 15 than Ayers. Laurianitis was a top 10 pick supposedly last year so I'd be happy with that selection too.

Thorn
04-20-2009, 07:28 PM
I believe that we should go ahead and trade out of the 1st round completely and pickup more 2nd and 3rd round picks since we've been successful in finding better quality talented players not in the 1st round.

Unless a outrageously talented shut down corner or safety falls to us at the 15th spot, I agree.

PapaL
04-20-2009, 07:56 PM
Just say no to Michael Johnson at 15.

Wolf6151
04-20-2009, 08:07 PM
I believe that we should go ahead and trade out of the 1st round completely and pickup more 2nd and 3rd round picks since we've been successful in finding better quality talented players not in the 1st round.

This makes the most sense and I agree completely. New England has three 2nd round picks if we trade #15 to them for #34 and #47, the trade point value works out almost perfectly. This would give them two 1st round picks and we'd then have three 2nd round picks. I'd love it.

JayCee
04-20-2009, 08:35 PM
Mr 'X' from PFT has us taking Rey, over Orakpo - who falls to New England!


One of our sources like to do mock drafts. So instead of posting his mock draft and calling it the PFT mock draft and facing the brunt of the ridicule for it (been there, done that), we’ll credit this one to “Mr. X.”

Before you scoff, “Mr. X” makes his mock draft in consultation with multiple NFL scouts.

1. Detroit Lions: Matthew Stafford, quarterback, Georgia.

2. St. Louis Rams: Eugene Monroe, tackle, Virginia.

3. Kansas City Chiefs: Aaron Curry, linebacker, Wake Forest.

4. Seattle Seahawks: Jason Smith, tackle, Baylor.

5. Cleveland Browns: Michael Crabtree, receiver, Texas Tech.

6. Cincinnati Bengals: Andre Smith, tackle, Alabama.

7. Oakland Raiders: Darrius Heyward-Bey, receiver, Maryland.

8. Jacksonville Jaguars: Jeremy Maclin, receiver, Missouri.

9. Green Bay Packers: B.J. Raji, defensive tackle, Boston College.

10. San Francisco 49ers: Mark Sanchez, quarterback, USC.

11. Buffalo Bills: Michael Oher, tackle, Mississippi.

12. Denver Broncos: Peria Jerry, defensive tackle, Mississippi.

13. Washington Redskins: Everette Brown, defensive end, Florida State.

14. New Orleans Saints: Malcolm Jenkins, cornerback, Ohio State.

15. Houston Texans: Ray Maualuga, linebacker, USC.

16. San Diego Chargers: Knowshon Moreno, running back, Georgia.

17. New York Jets: Hakeem Nicks, receiver, North Carolina.

18. Denver Broncos (from Chicago Bears): Tyson Jackson, defensive end, LSU.

19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Josh Freeman, quarterback, Kansas State.

20. Detroit Lions (from Dallas Cowboys): Robert Ayers, defensive end, Tennessee.

21. Philadelphia Eagles: Chris Wells, running back, Ohio State.

22. Minnesota Vikings: Clay Mathews, linebacker, USC.

23. New England Patriots: Brian Orakpo, linebacker, Texas.

24. Atlanta Falcons: Brandon Pettigrew, tight end, Oklahoma State.

25. Miami Dolphins: Brian Cushing, linebacker, USC.

26. Baltimore Ravens: Kenny Britt, receiver, Rutgers.

27. Indianapolis Colts: James Laurinaitis, linebacker, Ohio State.

28. Buffalo Bills (from Philadelphia Eagles (from Carolina Panthers)): Alphonso Smith, cornerback, Wake Forest.

29. New York Giants: Donald Brown, running back, Connecticut.

30. Tennessee Titans: D.J. Moore, cornerback, Vanderbilt.

31. Arizona Cardinals: Aaron Maybin, defensive end, Penn State.

32. Pittsburgh Steelers: Evander Hood, defensive tackle, Missouri.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/20/the-first-mr-x-mock-draft/

Ole Miss Texan
04-20-2009, 08:59 PM
Darren Lyn of ESPN Confidential reported that the texans are looking at (of course we already knew) Brian Cushing, Clay Matthews, but also Rey Meuiluga, Aaron Maybin, and Robert Ayers. He said that the Texans are going to be looking to fill gaps in the first two rounds.

Maualuga... that's interesting. On this team he would be nothing more than our MLB which means Demeco would move to the outside. On passing downs, I can't see Rey staying on the field when we have Adibi, June and Demeco. So we draft a 2 down MLB at #15? i'm not buying it. We'd get much better value taking a MLB later if that's what we're looking for. Or... I'd rather move Diles inside as a backup to Demeco and us take an OLB.

Maybin... I'm very skeptical about all these similar type players. I'm no where near convinced he could be a 4-3 olb (MAYBe a 3-4 olb though but we don't run that). so i'm assuming he'd be situational pass rushing de for us? Anything short of a dwight freeney at #15 and i'd be dissappointed for such a play limited player.

I could actually get on board more with Ayers. I was a fan earlier of trading down and taking him in the 1st. With the signing of Antonio Smith, I don't feel DE is near the need it was. With that said, Ayers could develop into a great DE opposite Mario. if Smith moves inside on passing downs then ayers would come in. Start off as a situational pass rusher and come in to relieve smith on other downs... then develop into a full time DE? I'd like this better than a DE/OLB hybrid.

threetoedpete
04-20-2009, 09:37 PM
Yeah didn't you get the word, Rey Maualuga is the second coming of Dick butkis. Able to leap tall buildings with a single bound....who knows maybe Demeecos ankle is chornic. They're not going to re up him they are going to dump him.

Wolf
04-21-2009, 12:17 AM
Mr 'X' from PFT has us taking Rey, over Orakpo - who falls to New England!


http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/20/the-first-mr-x-mock-draft/

4 tackles in first 11 picks :thinking:

Spled
04-21-2009, 12:54 AM
No way Maybin will go 31. He'll probably be top 10.

Vinny
04-21-2009, 01:09 AM
Personally I'd love to see Rey Maualuga on our team. He'd instantly add toughness, explosive hitting and attitude. I'd move DeMeco around and stick him in the middle on passing downs.

WolverineFan
04-21-2009, 01:33 AM
I don't like the idea of drafting any of those guys at #15. If we traded back then I could deal with one of the OLB's. If we stay at #15 then the only guys I am looking at are CB Malcolm Jenkins & RB Chris Wells.

TexansSeminole
04-21-2009, 02:14 AM
I'm thinking we trade back with the Eagles. I'm guessing they'll take Moreno or perhaps Jenkins.

I doubt that will happen now as they traded one of their first rounders for LT Peters from the Bills.

These are all defensive players that the Texans are showing interest in, mostly pass rushing type of guys. I would love Everette Brown in the first to have a pass rushing DE to compliment our bigger strong-side type of defensive ends. It all depends on how comfortable we feel with grabbing a guy that is going to rush most of the time. Maybin and Brown will probably be situational pass rushers for this team in their rookie year if we draft them. I think a Antonio Smith, Mario Williams, and Everette Brown combination would be a scary young group of ends.

It's looking more and more to me like one of these defensive ends is going to fall to us at 15. I wouldn't be opposed to Tyson Jackson or Robert Ayers, but they are strong-side defensive ends and I feel that we are set at that position for the next 3+ years.

threetoedpete
04-21-2009, 08:59 AM
Personally I'd love to see Rey Maualuga on our team. He'd instantly add toughness, explosive hitting and attitude. I'd move DeMeco around and stick him in the middle on passing downs.

Vinny you would be the first one with the pitch fork out to run the guy out of town once you figured out the guy is not going to cover anyone in space. I guess he could look tough trailing Chris Johnson or MoJo on their way to the end zone ? And why in the fricken world would you spend a day one pick on a two down LB ? Makes absolutely no sense to me , but what ever.

El Tejano
04-21-2009, 09:21 AM
I see this draft as pretty reasonable until you get to Washington. Then that's when the whole table turns on the draft. I sure wish The Texans would bring Knoshawn and Beanie in for a visit because if this is how it unfolded, many teams could see us drafting either one of them and would try to jump ahead of us or trade down with us.

I'm not going to lie though, a little part of me would be upset if we didn't get Moreno. I know we have good reasons for not getting him but he's pretty darn good.

Polo
04-21-2009, 09:24 AM
And why in the fricken world would you spend a day one pick on a two down LB ? Makes absolutely no sense to me , but what ever.

What defensive player are you sold on them coming in, starting and being a 3 down player ? Orakpo? Maybin? Clay? Jenkins? Raji? Who?

I think any defensive player we get will have more of an impact in future seasons vs. the one we're about to play.

MojoMan
04-21-2009, 09:26 AM
The Texans could be just giving the old head-fake misdirection play to throw everyone off track. Maybe they will surprise us by picking someone no one is expecting. How much fun would that be?

threetoedpete
04-21-2009, 09:43 AM
What defensive player are you sold on them coming in, starting and being a 3 down player ? Orakpo? Maybin? Clay? Jenkins? Raji? Who?

I think any defensive player we get will have more of an impact in future seasons vs. the one we're about to play.

In '09....from September, no one. But I believe Sidbury, Barwin and Mathews shouldn't take very long to catch Maualuga. and I believe Jenkins will be on the pine until October. And if you were going to do this...take a two down tough guy...hold your water and take Jasper Brinkley with a four.....get the same player, same production at half the cost.

And all of this is moot. They are not moving or trading Demeco. And Maualuga can't play on the out side in a 4-3.

HOU-TEX
04-21-2009, 10:06 AM
I think many will be surprised when Ayers is drafted in the top 20. He's the best 4-3 DE in this class and there will be a team grabbing him early. Heck, I had him going to the Bills before the Peters trade. If the OT's are gone, he still might end up a Bill.

TimeKiller
04-21-2009, 10:10 AM
I think Ayers is a prospect who got a surge at the right time. Not that he's not talented just fortunate in the way of timing.

HOU-TEX
04-21-2009, 10:19 AM
I think Ayers is a prospect who got a surge at the right time. Not that he's not talented just fortunate in the way of timing.

FWIW, Mayock now has him #3 in his top 20 overall. He's now rated the top defensive prospect in the draft.

To me, that says he's got some skill, but it also lets me know how poor this years 1st round talent is. I pray to the good Lord that we trade back in this 1st round no matter what. I don't care if we only receive a 3rd...do it!

76Texan
04-21-2009, 03:55 PM
FWIW, Mayock now has him #3 in his top 20 overall. He's now rated the top defensive prospect in the draft.

To me, that says he's got some skill, but it also lets me know how poor this years 1st round talent is. I pray to the good Lord that we trade back in this 1st round no matter what. I don't care if we only receive a 3rd...do it!

There's also the possibility that Mayock just got a case of manlove, again!
So now he's saying that Ayers is even safer than his old love Curry? LOL!

I understand he said that he might have to eat his words a couple years down the road. On this end, I would agree with him. The odd is not very good when you put all your eggs in one basket.

76Texan
04-21-2009, 04:06 PM
What defensive player are you sold on them coming in, starting and being a 3 down player ? Orakpo? Maybin? Clay? Jenkins? Raji? Who?

I think any defensive player we get will have more of an impact in future seasons vs. the one we're about to play.

The only slight possibility I see is a safety starting for us day one.

Patrick Chung or William Moore sumthing like that, if they decide they want a rover type like with Jason Simmons.

Keep in mind that Simmons was around 5'9 - 200 lbs on our opening day in 07.
Or if I have my say, I will start Rashad Johnson so y'all can laugh at me! :)

Vinny
04-21-2009, 05:37 PM
Personally I'd love to see Rey Maualuga on our team. He'd instantly add toughness, explosive hitting and attitude. I'd move DeMeco around and stick him in the middle on passing downs.

Vinny you would be the first one with the pitch fork out to run the guy out of town once you figured out the guy is not going to cover anyone in space. I guess he could look tough trailing Chris Johnson or MoJo on their way to the end zone ? And why in the fricken world would you spend a day one pick on a two down LB ? Makes absolutely no sense to me , but what ever.
Dick Butkus couldn't cover Chris Johnson either so I guess he wouldn't make your team. This team needs some serious attitude and a bona fide run stopper/enforcer type. Weren't you one of the guys making fun of the Tacks taking Chris Johnson last year? I don't see us taking him but I'm not going to think the pick won't make us a better team.

76Texan
04-21-2009, 05:52 PM
I can see Rey Rey without Cato or Adibi, one of them two.
If they are both healthy, at the moment, I think we can be better served somewhere else.

TexansSeminole
04-21-2009, 06:21 PM
I can see Rey Rey without Cato or Adibi, one of them two.
If they are both healthy, at the moment, I think we can be better served somewhere else.

I don't really see what Cato June or Adibi have to do with it. Rey won't play WLB. He would play either MLB or SLB for us. Both Cato June and Adibi play WLB.

ObsiWan
04-21-2009, 06:40 PM
this kind of discussion brings to mind something I've been thinking about off and on for the past couple of weeks... I just don't see an "automatic starter" in this draft. Not one that will be still available at #15. Not like Mario was or Amobi was or even Duane Brown was last year - where the coaches just hand them a spot and say "its yours to lose".

Is Matthews or even Cushing no-doubt-about-it better than a healthy Diles/June in the SAM spot? I dunno...

Is Malcolm Jenkins (or Vontae Davis who I like better) - if he falls to us - a no-doubt starter over Reeves? And do we pay him #15 money - when he ain't played a single NFL snap - and not pay Dunta?

Even if Orakpo lands in our lap, would we move Smith inside so Orakpo could start at LE??

I guess my point is, I sure hope we can trade down because I can't see where there's any real bang for the buck this year at #15.

djohn2oo8
04-21-2009, 08:02 PM
Kubiak did say that they are looking for an impact player, so I don't know why it wouldn't be Malcolm Jenkins if he fell to them....or if they traded back and get either darius butler or sean smith

nunusguy
04-21-2009, 08:13 PM
I dunno where Porky is ? He's the one guy last year who made the call on
Duane Brown being the Texans top pick. He needs to step up and make his call for 2009 now ?

The1ApplePie
04-21-2009, 08:46 PM
As much as I would like Rey Rey, I don't think the Texans covet LB very much. I think if they did, Patrick Willis would be lining up next to DeMeco right now.

Take Clay in the second where he belongs please

IMA TEXAN
04-21-2009, 09:13 PM
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Is Malcolm Jenkins (or Vontae Davis who I like better) - if he falls to us - a no-doubt starter over Reeves? And do we pay him #15 money - when he ain't played a single NFL snap - and not pay Dunta?...

Yes you pay the #15 pick #15 money - and inherently a draft pick has never played a single NFL snap. Would you prefer a lesser player who is a poor fit for the team? Guess what, they still won't have played a NFL snap and you still have to pay them #15 money. (Unless you just refuse to sign him, basically forfeiting the draft pick for nothing. THAT will please the fan base!)

As for this Dunta not getting payed nonsense - he's getting $9.97 Million for one year! BOO HOO! That's more than he deserves but he had the Texans over a barrel by refusing the $23 Million contract - they either had to franchise him or lose him as a free agent. If my employee pays me $10 Million for my entire career I would be happy not whining.

keyser
04-21-2009, 11:04 PM
this kind of discussion brings to mind something I've been thinking about off and on for the past couple of weeks... I just don't see an "automatic starter" in this draft. Not one that will be still available at #15. Not like Mario was or Amobi was or even Duane Brown was last year - where the coaches just hand them a spot and say "its yours to lose".

On defense, I agree. However, I think there are still OL possibilities that would be automatic starters, despite the performance of last year's line. I think Oher would start (thought at which position, I'm not sure), and could conceivably be there at 15. Plus, I think players like Unger and Mack would come in as automatic starters (and would actually only be drafted later than #15). That's part of why I'm personally hoping for OL with our first (or maybe second) pick - I think we can get an automatic starter.


I guess my point is, I sure hope we can trade down because I can't see where there's any real bang for the buck this year at #15.

Agreed - I think that's the best option, but I'm not sure we'll find a trading partner.

barrett
04-21-2009, 11:40 PM
Excellent angle, (cuz I agree). I also don't see the "starter impact player guy" for us. unless it's interior OLine. I'd prefer one of the C/G's. After re-watching the season I was very impressed with Briesel by the end of the year butMeyers is the weakest link. However if we somehow ended up drafting a RT (i recognize this player probably isn't available at 15) that was an upgrade over Winston as a pass blocker and he slid inside and Briesel was depth WOW, would we be in good shape for the ZBS on 4 of the 7 important OLine positions. (The extra two positions being swing Tackle and swing G/C). I would be extatic if that's what we did at 15. Not because it's a greater need than Defense, but because it's a better value I believe.

Otherwise... get me the hell out of the 1st round and gimmie some 2's and 3's!

dalemurphy
04-22-2009, 12:03 AM
Dick Butkus couldn't cover Chris Johnson either so I guess he wouldn't make your team. This team needs some serious attitude and a bona fide run stopper/enforcer type. Weren't you one of the guys making fun of the Tacks taking Chris Johnson last year? I don't see us taking him but I'm not going to think the pick won't make us a better team.

I don't want him with pick 15 either but I agree with you. After all, if we have a potent offense, our defense is very good against the run and can pressure the passer, I think that I can live with the fact that their is a window about 20 yards downfield between our safeties for the more athletic TEs.

dalemurphy
04-22-2009, 12:05 AM
Excellent angle, (cuz I agree). I also don't see the "starter impact player guy" for us. unless it's interior OLine. I'd prefer one of the C/G's. After re-watching the season I was very impressed with Briesel by the end of the year butMeyers is the weakest link. However if we somehow ended up drafting a RT (i recognize this player probably isn't available at 15) that was an upgrade over Winston as a pass blocker and he slid inside and Briesel was depth WOW, would we be in good shape for the ZBS on 4 of the 7 important OLine positions. (The extra two positions being swing Tackle and swing G/C). I would be extatic if that's what we did at 15. Not because it's a greater need than Defense, but because it's a better value I believe.

Otherwise... get me the hell out of the 1st round and gimmie some 2's and 3's!

According to the newest version of the draft chart, an even trade would be :

#34, #47, #89 from NE for #15... If we could get something like that, I'd be thrilled!

Vinny
04-22-2009, 12:50 AM
I don't want him with pick 15 either but I agree with you. After all, if we have a potent offense, our defense is very good against the run and can pressure the passer, I think that I can live with the fact that their is a window about 20 yards downfield between our safeties for the more athletic TEs.I mean...who exactly is our teams slobberknocker enforcer type run stopper? We have a bunch of finesse guys and a bunch of guys who are good gang tacklers outside of Mario and DeMeco...but no real 'attitude guy' who brings a big wallop and knocks people the blank out. We need our own new age version of Mr Mean. I won't cry if we take RM. I may tear up though.

beerlover
04-22-2009, 02:22 AM
Darren Lyn of ESPN Confidential reported that the texans are looking at (of course we already knew) Brian Cushing, Clay Matthews, but also Rey Meuiluga, Aaron Maybin, and Robert Ayers. He said that the Texans are going to be looking to fill gaps in the first two rounds.

Cushing- considered #2 overall LB in 4-3 scheme but dissaperars @ times in games, also with injury history
Matthews- pedigree & versatility more of a utility guy, maybe more a WLB?
Maualuga- aggressive ILb w/limited pass rush skills, recognition slow
Maybin- played DE @ Penn State but kicks outside in NFL w/+ length, raw but great instincts
Ayers- underperformer & inconsistant has size but lacks strength (18 bp)

I've already mocked Maybin in as the Texans pick #15. He has the body of an elite OLB, does not look like a DE. I think Bush would love to have him stand-up in the elephant role & spin inside off Mario shoulder. improving tackle technique, sideline to sideline speed better than thought, excellent work ethic, character is special, upside with this team & coaching staff well suited :)

nunusguy
04-22-2009, 06:56 AM
I've already mocked Maybin in as the Texans pick #15.

I'd rather take Maybin at 15 than any of the USC LBs even though Maybin is the least likely to be an early starter and has the most downside. But he has the most upside and can make the biggest impact because he can absolutely rush the QB, and thats the area the Texans need to make an all-in committment to if they are to get to the playoffs.

HOU-TEX
04-22-2009, 10:38 AM
I'd rather take Maybin at 15 than any of the USC LBs even though Maybin is the least likely to be an early starter and has the most downside. But he has the most upside and can make the biggest impact because he can absolutely rush the QB, and thats the area the Texans need to make an all-in committment to if they are to get to the playoffs.

:thinking:

drewmar74
04-22-2009, 11:05 AM
I'd rather take Maybin at 15 than any of the USC LBs even though Maybin is the least likely to be an early starter and has the most downside. But he has the most upside and can make the biggest impact because he can absolutely rush the QB, and thats the area the Texans need to make an all-in committment to if they are to get to the playoffs.

:thinking:

I understood where he was coming from. I think nunusguy is saying that Maybin has a lot of downside - more of a tweener, maybe doesn't fit, etc. but that he has a really high ceiling.

Lots of risk but, if everything shakes out, could net huge rewards.

threetoedpete
04-23-2009, 01:37 AM
Dick Butkus couldn't cover Chris Johnson either so I guess he wouldn't make your team. This team needs some serious attitude and a bona fide run stopper/enforcer type. Weren't you one of the guys making fun of the Tacks taking Chris Johnson last year? I don't see us taking him but I'm not going to think the pick won't make us a better team.

Dick Butkus ran with Wrs before he hurt his knee(s). and what I know for a fact is that Maualuga never will. Attitude is one thing Vinny. Swallowing a heaping spoonful of white hot college hype is quite another. And I never saw criss johnson available in the second round. I didn't get the LT I wanted. But I did get a LT. The only position Maualuga could play for us is MLB. And that isn't happening.

threetoedpete
04-23-2009, 01:40 AM
Cushing- considered #2 overall LB in 4-3 scheme but dissaperars @ times in games, also with injury history
Matthews- pedigree & versatility more of a utility guy, maybe more a WLB?
Maualuga- aggressive ILb w/limited pass rush skills, recognition slow
Maybin- played DE @ Penn State but kicks outside in NFL w/+ length, raw but great instincts
Ayers- underperformer & inconsistant has size but lacks strength (18 bp)

I've already mocked Maybin in as the Texans pick #15. He has the body of an elite OLB, does not look like a DE. I think Bush would love to have him stand-up in the elephant role & spin inside off Mario shoulder. improving tackle technique, sideline to sideline speed better than thought, excellent work ethic, character is special, upside with this team & coaching staff well suited :)

And so far there is no indication Maybin.....that the guy can move .....or stand up. At 235 he has the best first step in the class. At 249....he can't move....at all.

nunusguy
04-23-2009, 07:01 AM
I understood where he was coming from. I think nunusguy is saying that Maybin has a lot of downside - more of a tweener, maybe doesn't fit, etc. but that he has a really high ceiling.

Lots of risk but, if everything shakes out, could net huge rewards.
Said it far better that I did. Thanks drewmar74 !
BTW, hope the Corps is treatin you OK these days ?

Porky
04-23-2009, 10:22 AM
I dunno where Porky is ? He's the one guy last year who made the call on
Duane Brown being the Texans top pick. He needs to step up and make his call for 2009 now ?

LOL. I did yesterday in another thead. I think it's Clay Matthews after a trade down.

I don't see Maualuga even though I like him. Why would you want to move Ryans? Maualuga may ultimately be better than Ryans but by how much? Ryans was drafted with the idea of playing outside, and they saw he was much better on the inside. Maybe they have a plan to trade him or to play him outside, but it wouldn't be something I would personally do. But Maualuga looks to be a heck of a player at MLB I will grant that. We'll all know soon enough!:devilpig:

Oh and for the record, Ayers would be last on my list. He's not a bad player neccessarily but he reminds me a lot of Antonio Smith. You remember him, the guy we just gave big money too anchor the DE position. Why draft a clone of him? To do what? Sit on the bench or rotate in once in a while? They need to draft a guy who will likely start very early in his career in the 1st. That guy is Matthews.

badboy
04-23-2009, 11:23 AM
Yes you pay the #15 pick #15 money - and inherently a draft pick has never played a single NFL snap. Would you prefer a lesser player who is a poor fit for the team? Guess what, they still won't have played a NFL snap and you still have to pay them #15 money. (Unless you just refuse to sign him, basically forfeiting the draft pick for nothing. THAT will please the fan base!)

As for this Dunta not getting payed nonsense - he's getting $9.97 Million for one year! BOO HOO! That's more than he deserves but he had the Texans over a barrel by refusing the $23 Million contract - they either had to franchise him or lose him as a free agent. If my employee pays me $10 Million for my entire career I would be happy not whining.While I agree with your position on DR, most likely 70,000 people do not pay to watch you and your co-workers do the things that you do. Let's compare apples to apples. The guy that delivers my paper thinks you are way over paid. (j/k)

IMA TEXAN
04-23-2009, 09:47 PM
While I agree with your position on DR, most likely 70,000 people do not pay to watch you and your co-workers do the things that you do. Let's compare apples to apples. The guy that delivers my paper thinks you are way over paid. (j/k)

Good point! 69,996 people are really missing out! (and will these 4 people please GET OUT OF MY OFFICE!) I used to deliver papers - that was easy money - I work a lot harder now.

You are right Dunta to me to paper guy is not apples to apples. Apples to apples is if you are getting paid the average of the highest paid people at your position and you are not one of the two best - then you are not getting screwed. If you are not one of the best five you are getting a great deal. Dunta is not one of the five best CBs in the league.