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texanfan2002114
04-14-2009, 09:38 PM
Texans defensive tackle Amobi Okoye has a sore left knee that may require an MRI.

After he was honored by the Houston City Council on Tuesday for his philanthropic efforts, Okoye said he has developed soreness in his knee while running in the Texans’ conditioning program.

"There's a little soreness there," he said. "Hopefully, it's nothing big. We’re taking a look at it. Going out there and running, it's not really inhibiting me, but I can feel a little bit of soreness. I’ll take it day by day and see if it gets worse or if it gets any better.

"I wouldn't necessarily say it's worrisome. Let's hope it doesn't get worrisome."

Coach Gary Kubiak said he plans to meet with Okoye on Wednesday.

“We’ll do whatever needs to be done for Amobi to be successful,” Kubiak said. “All of our guys are sore right now because they’ve been working so hard in the conditioning program for eight or nine days.”

Okoye said he plans to wait two weeks to see if the soreness goes away. If not, he’ll get the MRI to see if there’s any damage.

"I went to the doctor, and he took a look at it and said it's nothing to worry about right now," Okoye said. "I hope it stays that way."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6373945.html

CloakNNNdagger
04-14-2009, 10:24 PM
I don't remember Okoye ever having knee problems last year. Inactivity followed by rigorous conditioning program, especially if not eased into, can lead to injury. Hopefully, just mild strained ligament. Hopefully, not the beginning of a rode that led to his counterpart Okoye, Christian that is, to an early retirement.

BSofA04
04-14-2009, 11:00 PM
Why wait two weeks? Get it looked at NOW! Not that we're expecting to see anything, but should the unfortunante event occur that he'll need surgery...would it change our mentality for the draft next week? Possibly. I think it would be wise to be overcautious while it's early and get it done.

BSofA04
04-14-2009, 11:03 PM
Double post.

gtexan02
04-14-2009, 11:47 PM
Lets hope this isn't another "nagging" injury excuse waiting to happen to explain away another disappointing season

Clamp
04-14-2009, 11:58 PM
For some reason tendinitis jumps into my head right away. I had it and that is probably why. i was in powerlifting in HS and my squat max went up about 100 lbs in a relatively short amount of time but I had bad form and put alot of strain on my knee. Well I decded to tough it out for the remainder of the season and after several months I got it looked at and they said it may be chronic. My advise to him is do exactly what he said, take it easy for a few weeks and rest.

Tendinitis is an inflamed portion of a tendon brought on by excessive strain. Heals relatively quickly if you dont re aggravate it. It is just painful and uncomfortable but wont cause injury if he plays with it. Similar in many ways to Mario's plantar fasciitis.

This is all assuming that it IS tendinitis, but like i said. My gut reaction tells me it could be.

nunusguy
04-15-2009, 07:28 AM
Jacobey has not been very durable either.
Between him & Okoye (top 2 picks of '07), that inaugural Draft for the
Smith-Kubiak combo is looking shakier and shakier with the passage of time.

MojoMan
04-15-2009, 09:15 AM
Another common source of knee pain while running is pattelofemmoral pain (Runner's Knee) (http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/topic.cfm?topic=a00382):

Patellofemoral pain may be the result of irritation of the soft tissues around the front of the knee. Strained tendons are fairly common in athletes. Other contributing factors to Patellofemoral pain include overuse, muscle imbalance and inadequate stretching. Pain that begins in another part of the body, such as the back or hip, may cause pain in the knee (referred pain).

In some people with runner's knee, the kneecap is out of alignment. If so, vigorous activities can cause excessive stress and wear on the cartilage of the kneecap. This can lead to softening and breakdown of the cartilage on the patella (chondromalacia patella) and cause pain in the underlying bone and irritation of the joint lining.

The doctor may order diagnostic imaging studies, such as X-rays, magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) and computed tomography (CT) scans, and blood tests to rule out damage to the structure of the knee and the tissues that connect to it.

Nonsurgical Treatment
After resting the knee until the pain and swelling go down, you may need reconditioning to regain full range of motion, strength, power, endurance, speed, agility, and coordination. Your doctor may prescribe an exercise program to normalize the flexibility and strength of thigh muscles, or recommend cross-training exercises that emphasize stretching the lower extremities. Your doctor will tell you when you may gradually resume running and other athletic activities.

Other nonsurgical treatments involve taping the kneecap or using a special brace for knee support during sports participation. Special shoe inserts (orthotics) may sometimes be prescribed and may help relieve the pain.

This is very common. I have had it. I would expect that a number of other people on this board have had this as well. Frequently, the solution for this is just a special stretching program.

CloakNNNdagger
04-15-2009, 09:30 AM
For some reason tendinitis jumps into my head right away. I had it and that is probably why. i was in powerlifting in HS and my squat max went up about 100 lbs in a relatively short amount of time but I had bad form and put alot of strain on my knee. Well I decded to tough it out for the remainder of the season and after several months I got it looked at and they said it may be chronic. My advise to him is do exactly what he said, take it easy for a few weeks and rest.

Tendinitis is an inflamed portion of a tendon brought on by excessive strain. Heals relatively quickly if you dont re aggravate it. It is just painful and uncomfortable but wont cause injury if he plays with it. Similar in many ways to Mario's plantar fasciitis.

This is all assuming that it IS tendinitis, but like i said. My gut reaction tells me it could be.


Putting too much strain on joints can lead to ligament strain or tendinitis. The former usually occurs more acutely and the latter over a longer period of time. Tendonitis develops also develops most commonly in weight training when the player puts the tendon under too much strain without properly warming up or under strain that the tendon simply cannot handle.
Either way, either injury is avoidable, and both require RICE, at least initially. If there is a significant tear, it can be a much more involved road to recovery. Hopefully, whether ligament strain or a form of tendinitis, it remains an isolated incident for Okoye.

PapaL
04-15-2009, 09:37 AM
Why not get an MRI now, rest two weeks and then get another one done? Or did I miss the part where they said he got one now too.

Needless to say, right now is not the time to be injured. We need everyone healthy and improving before the season kicks off.

I'm sure AO knows there is a lot of pressure for him to preform this season.

beerlover
04-15-2009, 09:46 AM
I can't take this anymore, call it over-reacting if you want the Texans HAVE TO GET BETTER PRODUCTION from the DT position, they've spent even more money this off season to address it now this. I shudder to think they spend 1st rd. money again on DT but Peria Jerry might be dialed in sooner than we think :cool:

TimeKiller
04-15-2009, 10:12 AM
I can't take this anymore, call it over-reacting if you want the Texans HAVE TO GET BETTER PRODUCTION from the DT position, they've spent even more money this off season to address it now this. I shudder to think they spend 1st rd. money again on DT but Peria Jerry might be dialed in sooner than we think :cool:

I think drafting him is worst case scenario but if Okoye is looking bad he's the pick, no question. Or trade half the draft to get Raji.

Either way I hope some rest does the young man some good, I know he's been pushing himself since the probowl to get better for this team.

HOU-TEX
04-15-2009, 10:45 AM
Meh, he just doesn't want to run. Typical Lineman. :)

Seriously though, players get MRI's free, right? Check it out, get it taken care of now in order to not miss any camp time.

Polo
04-15-2009, 11:02 AM
Sounds like Kubes is telling Amobi to get over it.

CloakNNNdagger
04-15-2009, 11:41 AM
Why not get an MRI now, rest two weeks and then get another one done? Or did I miss the part where they said he got one now too.

Needless to say, right now is not the time to be injured. We need everyone healthy and improving before the season kicks off.

I'm sure AO knows there is a lot of pressure for him to preform this season.

I can't say for sure, but they must not think that it is on the scale of requiring surgery. Whether it is a simple ligament strain or tendonitis, which can be determined by physical exam, the minimum of 2 weeks of RICE is a given. They lose nothing by waiting 2 weeks for the MRI. If it is a microfracture, which is another possibility, it may not show until 10-14 days post trauma. The only time that an early MRI would be advantageous is in a case of major tear or fracture, which I would hope would have been ruled out with the decision to wait for the MRI. Unfortunately, looking at past history, this may not be a given.

Texecutioner
04-15-2009, 11:46 AM
For some reason tendinitis jumps into my head right away. I had it and that is probably why. i was in powerlifting in HS and my squat max went up about 100 lbs in a relatively short amount of time but I had bad form and put alot of strain on my knee. Well I decded to tough it out for the remainder of the season and after several months I got it looked at and they said it may be chronic. My advise to him is do exactly what he said, take it easy for a few weeks and rest.

Tendinitis is an inflamed portion of a tendon brought on by excessive strain. Heals relatively quickly if you dont re aggravate it. It is just painful and uncomfortable but wont cause injury if he plays with it. Similar in many ways to Mario's plantar fasciitis.

This is all assuming that it IS tendinitis, but like i said. My gut reaction tells me it could be.

I had a strange pain in my knee for years man. It all started one day after I was playing basketball. It was right on top of my knee cap and whenever I leaned on my knee or put pressure on that spot I would feel some pain there. It wasn't a horrible pain , but it was a very irritating pain. Whenever I ran real hard or played basketball especially I would feel the pain more and it would get sore. I had it for so long, that I just learned how to tolerate it.

Then about a year or so ago I realized that I hadn't felt the pain for a while and I haven't ever since either. I;m not sure why it or how it just up and went away but it did and I'm glad.

Do you think that was tendinitis? I've had tendinitis in my elbow more than once and hated it, but I still am not sure if that is what it was in my knee.

Specnatz
04-15-2009, 12:01 PM
A lot of pessimist on here.


It is the start of conditioning and he is a little sore, no shit really? You mean someone who is not in game shape is a little sore after starting a new workout routine? Gee who would have thought or guessed.

Marcus
04-15-2009, 12:56 PM
a lot of pessimist on here.


It is the start of conditioning and he is a little sore, no shit really? You mean someone who is not in game shape is a little sore after starting a new workout routine? Gee who would have thought or guessed.

qft.

BSofA04
04-15-2009, 04:45 PM
A lot of pessimist on here.


It is the start of conditioning and he is a little sore, no shit really? You mean someone who is not in game shape is a little sore after starting a new workout routine? Gee who would have thought or guessed.

It's a week before the draft, I think it'd be wise to be overcautious.

Vinny
04-15-2009, 04:48 PM
I wonder if he has been working out prior to this camp? Big heavy men who all of a sudden start to stress out their joints put a much tougher burden on their connective tissues than smaller men. I hope this isn't a sign that he has been sitting around since last season.

HOU-TEX
04-15-2009, 04:59 PM
I wonder if he has been working out prior to this camp? Big heavy men who all of a sudden start to stress out their joints put a much tougher burden on their connective tissues than smaller men. I hope this isn't a sign that he has been sitting around since last season.

Supposedly he's been hitting it hard since the Pro Bowl.

A month off has allowed his ankle to heal, and since he returned from the Pro Bowl, he has been hitting the gym with newfound motivation.

“Last year, coming off my rookie year, I didn’t want to do something unless I was forced to do it. So last year, I didn’t do anything until April. I’m taking a different approach this year. Like I said, I went to the Pro Bowl and it motivated me seeing the guys there knowing that I could be there also. So after the Pro Bowl was over, I came back and started working out.”

Okoye has been focusing on improving his conditioning and increasing his core strength and is working his way toward heavy press lifting sessions.

Okoye plans to ramp up his workouts until mid-March, when he leaves for a community-building trip in is native Nigeria.

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=5148

ReliantTexan
04-15-2009, 05:08 PM
I had a strange pain in my knee for years man. It all started one day after I was playing basketball. It was right on top of my knee cap and whenever I leaned on my knee or put pressure on that spot I would feel some pain there. It wasn't a horrible pain , but it was a very irritating pain. Whenever I ran real hard or played basketball especially I would feel the pain more and it would get sore. I had it for so long, that I just learned how to tolerate it.

Then about a year or so ago I realized that I hadn't felt the pain for a while and I haven't ever since either. I;m not sure why it or how it just up and went away but it did and I'm glad.

Do you think that was tendinitis? I've had tendinitis in my elbow more than once and hated it, but I still am not sure if that is what it was in my knee.I'm no expert but usually if the pain lasts longer than 2-3 weeks it's probably not tendonitis, but more likely tendonosis,which is when the tendon is degenerative,and it takes a longer time for the pain to go away.

CloakNNNdagger
04-15-2009, 06:03 PM
I'm no expert but usually if the pain lasts longer than 2-3 weeks it's probably not tendonitis, but more likely tendonosis,which is when the tendon is degenerative,and it takes a longer time for the pain to go away.

Tendinosis, especially patellar tendinosis, takes a longer time to develop than just in this OTA period. If this is the case, he would have had to have been suffering these symptoms for quite a while. The MRI or an ultrasound would rule that out pretty easily. We better hope it's not tendinosis, because a lineman like Okoye would need 3-6 months minimally to "recover".........and then would be unlikely to return to anymore than 75-80% of previous full tendon strength. Steroids and antiinflammatories do not help because tendenosis as opposed to tendonitis is not an inflammatory process..........it is a process of chronic degenerative tissue death. It's chronic recurrent microtearing of the tendon with failure to heal. RICE usually improves the condition a little. But THERE IS NO TREATMENT OF REVERSAL OF DAMAGE..........which has necessitated many a career changes.

Texans_Chick
04-16-2009, 08:06 AM
Sounds like Kubes is telling Amobi to get over it.

Kubiak doesn't like people talking to the media about their ouchies unless the media already knows about their ouchy. And even then, he wants no details given out.

Players are to report injuries to the trainer. Reporting injuries to the media is an excuse.

GP
04-16-2009, 08:56 AM
Kubiak doesn't like people talking to the media about their ouchies unless the media already knows about their ouchy. And even then, he wants no details given out.

Players are to report injuries to the trainer. Reporting injuries to the media is an excuse.

All Kubiak has to do is draft a DT in round one, two, or three...and that should send the message. If Okoye is going to end up with nagging injuries, we need to fill that spot with another DT in the higher rounds.

This might be something that fades away, but so far...things aren't looking good for Okoye. I hope that in training camp, Kubiak has Kollar and Bush put the screws to Okoye.

My expectations for Okoye were:

Rookie season: Stay on the field, disrupt plays and contribute however he could as a rookie.

Sophomore season: Show an ability to command a double-team, and maintain his zone of play. Make a few sacks. Solid stats on tackles.

This year: He has to be a notch below Mario's ability. Round 1 talent is either worthy of their draft spot...or they were posers all along. TJ is hovering around the "poser" mark right now, but maybe the new scheme will see him flourish.

I hate to be so critical, because it's not like Okoye has been a cancer in the locker room, and he hasn't just gone out there and fallen down, but I think he hasn't lived up to his potential.

Whether it's due to his age, or whatever, I don't know.

But this report, like TC said, is concerning because I don't remember any Texans player divulging their injury unless the media already knew about it beforehand (like the instance of Mario's feet).

Specnatz
04-16-2009, 01:52 PM
All Kubiak has to do is draft a DT in round one, two, or three...and that should send the message. If Okoye is going to end up with nagging injuries, we need to fill that spot with another DT in the higher rounds.

This might be something that fades away, but so far...things aren't looking good for Okoye. I hope that in training camp, Kubiak has Kollar and Bush put the screws to Okoye.

My expectations for Okoye were:

Rookie season: Stay on the field, disrupt plays and contribute however he could as a rookie.

Sophomore season: Show an ability to command a double-team, and maintain his zone of play. Make a few sacks. Solid stats on tackles.

This year: He has to be a notch below Mario's ability. Round 1 talent is either worthy of their draft spot...or they were posers all along. TJ is hovering around the "poser" mark right now, but maybe the new scheme will see him flourish.

I hate to be so critical, because it's not like Okoye has been a cancer in the locker room, and he hasn't just gone out there and fallen down, but I think he hasn't lived up to his potential.

Whether it's due to his age, or whatever, I don't know.

But this report, like TC said, is concerning because I don't remember any Texans player divulging their injury unless the media already knew about it beforehand (like the instance of Mario's feet).

This is just a little soreness, it is not like he is having the knee scoped for the second or third time in his brief career.

With the way DeJuan Robinson played last year and the signing of a DT this off season you would think that would be enough to say to every DT on the team get it in gear or your gone.

GP
04-16-2009, 02:46 PM
This is just a little soreness, it is not like he is having the knee scoped for the second or third time in his brief career.

With the way DeJuan Robinson played last year and the signing of a DT this off season you would think that would be enough to say to every DT on the team get it in gear or your gone.

Shaun Cody isn't going to push Okoye.

Robinson might.