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Maddict5
03-19-2009, 07:49 AM
Stole this thread from another board & a texans player was mentioned.

Guess who it was and feel free to add your own candidates.

Might as well stick up a poll too.. add anybody who's not on the poll list either (like jacques reeves- hes great) :)

HOU-TEX
03-19-2009, 08:49 AM
Stole this thread from another board & a texans player was mentioned.

Guess who it was and feel free to add your own candidates.

Might as well stick up a poll too.. add anybody who's not on the poll list either (like jacques reeves- hes great) :)

You didn't vote in your own poll, Bro.

Anywho, I'm not sure an Olineman can have a noticable "Breakout" year, but I choose D. Brown. Hopefully he's dropped a few lbs and will be a bit quicker with his kick slide against speed rushers.

badboy
03-19-2009, 09:01 AM
You didn't vote in your own poll, Bro.

Anywho, I'm not sure an Olineman can have a noticable "Breakout" year, but I choose D. Brown. Hopefully he's dropped a few lbs and will be a bit quicker with his kick slide against speed rushers.Brown is my choice also of those listed. Schaub will have good year but he had one last year imo. To me Brown really fits this offense and another year will make him even better. Some thing to ponder; will not having Salaam behind him help? I say yes as it is Brown's position in Brown's mind this year. Also, I think an addition to RB corps will take more heat off everyone especially Brown.

If we get a RB like Jennings or Peerman, that person should have a very good season also.

spurstexanstros
03-19-2009, 09:13 AM
I was hard on Amobi last year because of his prediction of 14 sacks and he had a hard time making tackles much less getting sacks. I was especially pissed when fat or slow Qbs kept running past him for first downs. However this year I think with addition of Smith and the emergence of Bulman it will enable him to be single covered and create pressure up the Middle. I hope so because Amobi is an example of everything right in sports. I hope his sophomore slump is busted and he makes a differance this year.

Shaft75
03-19-2009, 09:34 AM
This one's easy... Matt Schaub.

He's one injury free season away from being a top 5 qb. If the line protects, our running attack improves, and AJ stays healthy I see no reason he shouldn't get his 1st Pro Bowl invite. He better be taking his vitamins this offseason.

Maddict5
03-19-2009, 09:48 AM
the player mentioned in the original thread was (pretty surprisingly- given its an nfl board and a bears fan posted it)..... Deljuan Robinson

In the pre draft/free agency stuff I think 2008 is often very quickly forgotten and personally I think right after the season is the perfect time, before everyone forgets, to think of guys who are role players or in the shadows already on their teams who could step up in 2009 and have big seasons making names for themselves like guys such as Lance Moore, Deangelo Williams, LaMarr Woodley have...

Some guys I reckon have chance at having good seasons in 2009 based off what I saw are:

Lawrence Timmons - Pittsburgh - I know he has great people around him and is behind Foote and Farrior right now, bu I think he was mighty impressive whenever I saw him 2009 might be his year to displace Foote or Farrior.

Jason Avant - Philly - Avant has never really claimed a starting spot in Philly nut I was really impressed by him towards the end of the season I reckon he could have a good year with a lot of attention heading towards Desean Jackson.

Deljuan Robinson - Houston - He didn't start I don't think. But in the couple of Houston games I saw I thought he did a good job, better than Travis Johnson, and with all the talent on the houston d-line I think Robinson could have a very big year, we might be calling it the best d-line in football this time next year.

Sabby Pisticelli - Tampa - He has looked good for a while now stuck behind the great pairing of Phiilips and Jackson. The Bucs let Phiilps test the market before bringing him back and I think Pisticelli is why. I heard they are looking a Phillips moving to LB so I think he could have big year in 2009.

Maddict5
03-19-2009, 09:52 AM
This one's easy... Matt Schaub.

He's one injury free season away from being a top 5 qb. If the line protects, our running attack improves, and AJ stays healthy I see no reason he shouldn't get his 1st Pro Bowl invite. He better be taking his vitamins this offseason.

yep pretty much my response

props.. not many would notice an unheralded DT although he really played exceptional late on in the season (especially v the titans and bears) as he gained more and more snaps. hes going to be a big part on our rotation this yr.

another guy i think that could break out on our D is Xavier Adibi.. just a really athletic, smart & tough LB. health is the only reason he didnt start early last yr. when he finally got healthy (and got greenwood out of there), our D improved greatly. hes slated to start at WLB. i think he does very well there once he stays healthy.

same goes for schaub. if he stays healthy, i think he'll be there on the fringe of top 5 qb discussions. really finished the season strong and now he'll be 100%. we dont play the vikes this yr so that drunk ******** Allen cant go after his knee so he should be ok

is it noticeable that im bitter towards jared allen?

Malloy
03-19-2009, 10:28 AM
Choosing someone from the list I think that Schaub, barring injury, will light it up this year. Someone not from the list would be Reeves, I have a feeling he'll be special this year.

Polo
03-19-2009, 10:38 AM
Okoye and Molden

Thorn
03-19-2009, 10:46 AM
My two favorites on this list were Schaub and Okoye, but I voted for Schaub. I'd just love it if our D-line as a whole just tears the league up this year, and Okoye would have to have a good year for that to happen.

hot pickle
03-19-2009, 12:22 PM
Okoye and Molden

second that

JB
03-19-2009, 12:49 PM
second that

ditto

Maddict5
03-19-2009, 12:57 PM
Okoye and Molden

second that

ditto

i dont know.. whatever about amobi coming good, i think its a much longer shot for molden. iirc, his injury is pretty serious and they're not certain he'll recover fully like they are with diles. i think he's supposed to be out til TC too. that coupled with the fact he got little to no PT last yr means he wont do much this yr either imo. bennett is alot more likely to be the cb that (re)breaks out by rediscovering his rookie form partnered beside dunta

infantrycak
03-19-2009, 01:29 PM
i dont know.. whatever about amobi coming good, i think its a much longer shot for molden. iirc, his injury is pretty serious and they're not certain he'll recover fully like they are with diles. i think he's supposed to be out til TC too. that coupled with the fact he got little to no PT last yr means he wont do much this yr either imo. bennett is alot more likely to be the cb that (re)breaks out by rediscovering his rookie form partnered beside dunta

Where did you get this about the severity of Molden's injury?

Molden fractured his left ankle on a special teams play against the Titans on Dec. 14. A third-round draft pick out of Eastern Kentucky, he had seen limited action on defense but was an impact special teams player, recording 19 tackles and a fumble recovery.

I think the disappointing thing with him is that we were starting to play him (at corner) when he did get hurt, Kubiak said. So he missed out on some valuable playing time, but hes a smart young man. Hes a smart worker. Hes a hard worker.

The injury he has, players have come back from and ended up playing a long, long time. So, I dont have any doubt hell handle his business.

From ht.com.

Diles was injured much earlier in the season so I can see him being ready sooner.

Goldensilence
03-19-2009, 01:40 PM
I voted Okoye. I hope with Kollar and Bush we'll see a different philosophy from the "read and react" line crap of Richard Smith. Okoye has great inital burst and he should be using that disrupt his gap and get to the qb fast.

I think there's a few guys that IF healthy can have breakout years at multiple spots though.

TheRealJoker
03-19-2009, 03:38 PM
Comes down to Schaub or Okoye to be "breakout players" imo. I chose Schaub because he has been able to put several good games together. All he has to do now is play a full season at the level he plays at when he's healthy and he'll be in the talks regarding the top QBs not named Manning or Brady.

Okoye however is still very young and is playing a position that has a long transition period. I hope he does very well this season, but odds are Schaub is the better pick for breakout player.

Vinny
03-19-2009, 03:54 PM
Dominique Barber is going to be the talk of camp and will play well.

kiwitexansfan
03-19-2009, 03:58 PM
Duane Brown.

Your 1st Round pick better make a big leap in year two.

Hit the track, donut boy!

76Texan
03-19-2009, 04:42 PM
Haha, so much expectation for Okoye!

And nobody expects TJ to do anything anymore? :)

Ryan
03-19-2009, 05:32 PM
IMO, Schaub having a breakout year means Duane Brown and co. are having a breakout year and are protecting his a$$. They both go hand in hand.

Goatcheese
03-19-2009, 06:03 PM
Not sure why everyone is voting Schaub. This season was his breakout year. He just needs to be protected from stomach bugs, and illegal shots to the knee. My sig shows what a full 16 game season would have looked like from Schaub.

Mari-OWNED!
03-19-2009, 06:05 PM
Not sure why everyone is voting Schaub. This season was his breakout year.

Yeah everyone in Houston will tell you that, but you ask the rest of the football world in the US and Schaub is still virtually an unknown.

Malloy
03-19-2009, 06:53 PM
Not sure why everyone is voting Schaub. This season was his breakout year. He just needs to be protected from stomach bugs, and illegal shots to the knee. My sig shows what a full 16 game season would have looked like from Schaub.

True, but the way I looked at it was that if he can do what he did last season through an entire season of 16 games, then we'll possibly see Brees-like production, and THAT would be breakout in my book :)

disaacks3
03-19-2009, 07:34 PM
Not sure why everyone is voting Schaub. This season was his breakout year. He just needs to be protected from stomach bugs, and illegal shots to the knee. My sig shows what a full 16 game season would have looked like from Schaub. Kinda where I was going w/ my vote as well. Hey, if the Texans can improve on a top-3 Offense, I'm all for it!!

I voted for Okoye more in hope than in anything else...because if the kid DOESN'T produce this year, there will be holy HELL raised around here.

cuppacoffee
03-19-2009, 10:51 PM
Haha, so much expectation for Okoye!

And nobody expects TJ to do anything anymore? :)


I do. But his name wasn't on the list.:foottap:

Pro Bowl.:highfive:


:coffee:

76Texan
03-20-2009, 09:20 AM
Haha, nobody vote for Antonio Smith "yet"!
Maybe I should change my vote and give the new guy some confidence. :fans:

Maddict5
03-20-2009, 10:52 AM
Where did you get this about the severity of Molden's injury?


yeah i think that the article i was basing it off.. as it says diles is expected back much faster and kubiak is pretty confident about him.

i dont know where i picked up about the difficulty of a full return- a thread maybe? i know molden said in his interview that they want him to take it really slow coming back

TheRealJoker
03-20-2009, 12:07 PM
Not sure why everyone is voting Schaub. This season was his breakout year. He just needs to be protected from stomach bugs, and illegal shots to the knee. My sig shows what a full 16 game season would have looked like from Schaub.

I would hardly call last season a breakout year for Schaub. He showed flashes yes, but the fact is he got injured and didn't play the full season.

If he maintains the level of play he had last season for a full season, then he solidifies himself as our franchise QB and one of the top QBs in the NFL. That is a breakout year.

disaacks3
03-20-2009, 01:38 PM
I guess the definition of "breakout" year is what this boils down to. Unless Matt FAR exceeds what he would have done (extrapolated to 16 games) last year, then I don't see that as a "breakout". In Amobi's case, if he got injured, but had 8 sacks in 6 games, THAT year would be his "breakout" year for me.

Either way, I'd love for all our guys to have fantastic years this next season and get to enjoy the Texans first playoff game...wherever it may be!

badboy
03-20-2009, 03:25 PM
I would hardly call last season a breakout year for Schaub. He showed flashes yes, but the fact is he got injured and didn't play the full season.

If he maintains the level of play he had last season for a full season, then he solidifies himself as our franchise QB and one of the top QBs in the NFL. That is a breakout year.At QB I like to look at what the position brings to you and both Sage and Schaub did ok statistically. Sure there were some bone head plays, but Sage is gone and Schaub will do even better. Our line will do better and a power runner will also help the QB. As I said in my new thread today, we will see how coaches build the guys like our new back up QB. Here is a chance for Kubes to really develop a guy.

DocBar
03-20-2009, 09:38 PM
I haven't read any of the posts on this thread, but I voted Schaub. There are a couple of BIG IF'S with him. IF he stays healthy AND cuts down on turnovers, he can put up record numbers. CAN he stay healthy? A lot of that depends on him playing a little smarter and some of it is luck, considering some of his injuries (the majority, I believe) have come from illegal hits. The turnovers are just as hard to figure since most of them are the result of trying to make a play. Most of them are from trying to make the big play and I'm unsure of how much of that gunslinger attitude I want to see coached out of him. Do we want to see a repeat of Mr. Mittens with the 3rd checkdown being the primary receiver? I think not. I like the big play as much as anyone and there is always a risk that comes with them. I can see 30+ TD's and well over 4,000 yds. passing in '09 if he can limit the injuries and turnovers, though.

Goatcheese
03-20-2009, 10:46 PM
I guess the definition of "breakout" year is what this boils down to. Unless Matt FAR exceeds what he would have done (extrapolated to 16 games) last year, then I don't see that as a "breakout". In Amobi's case, if he got injured, but had 8 sacks in 6 games, THAT year would be his "breakout" year for me.

Either way, I'd love for all our guys to have fantastic years this next season and get to enjoy the Texans first playoff game...wherever it may be!

Barring shattering the NFL single season passing record I don't think you can FAR exceed 4,600 yards.

The Pencil Neck
03-21-2009, 02:50 PM
Xavier Adibi is a gamer. Being ill and injured during the preseason last year didn't give the coaching staff an opportunity to see what they really had until later in the season. Now they know he may not look so good in practice but he comes to play on Sunday. If he can stay healthy, I expect him to have a great year.