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TexansSeminole
03-14-2009, 03:54 PM
Didn't Chase Coffman go at 58?

EDIT: My bad. I'd made a mistake on my board.

I thought 58 was James Casey. Nevermind.

Bills ready to pick after the 9ers.

Specnatz
03-14-2009, 04:00 PM
Good Lord Don't scare me like that. Silly GM wanted to draft a runningback.


With the 74th The San Francisco 49ers Select:

Mike Mickens CB Cincinnati



http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/cinn/sports/m-footbl/auto_action/1400838.jpeg

With Walt Harris getting long in the tooth it is time to look for a replacement.

TexansSeminole
03-14-2009, 04:04 PM
With the 73rd pick in the 2009 NFL Draft the Buffalo Bills select:

OLB Marcus Freeman, Ohio State

http://blog.cleveland.com/lesmerises/2008/08/medium_Freeman.jpg

Texan4Ever
03-14-2009, 04:06 PM
Can either of you explain the reasoning behind your picks? I have no clue as to who your players are (with the exception of Marcus Freeman).

JCTexan
03-14-2009, 04:10 PM
Can either of you explain the reasoning behind your picks? I have no clue as to who your players are (with the exception of Marcus Freeman).

I have seen Mickens going in the 2nd round in a couple of mocks, so he's a good pick in the third.

TexansSeminole
03-14-2009, 04:11 PM
The Bills are lacking depth at the OLB position. While Freeman will be a rookie he has experience in big games at the NCAA level, which would indicate that he could compete pretty quickly. He needs to add some strength but he could potentially be a solid backup SLB in his first year.

The pick was almost a BPA.

Specnatz
03-14-2009, 04:21 PM
Can either of you explain the reasoning behind your picks? I have no clue as to who your players are (with the exception of Marcus Freeman).

Well mine is simple, he performed well at the combine and his measurables relate to the pro game very well. While I have not watched him a lot I asked someone who has over at the ND site I goto and he raved about him. Mickens has earned honors every year he has started 2nd team big east '05, '06 and 1st '07. He was All-American 3rd team last year.

While there was others that were higher on my draft board as far as BPA, but the need to get a CB out weighed the BPA.

gtexan02
03-14-2009, 04:46 PM
With the 76th selection in the NFL draft, the New York Jets select Pat White, QB, West Virginia.

His arm strength was a big surprise at the combine, and his versatility on the offense gives him the ability to play backup QB and receiver on a Jets team looking for offense.

Going offense in rounds 1-3 may be a little much for the Jets, but you gotta play like them like their dealt. With all the defensive help they received in free agency, they had the ability to draft BPA on day 1

JCTexan
03-14-2009, 04:48 PM
The Houston Texans are now on the clock! :texflag:


77.) Houston Texans Select: Shaft75

78.) San Diego Chargers Select: Tailgate

79.) Denver Broncos Select: Kaiser Toro

80.) Washington Redskins Select: steelbtexan

Honoring Earl 34
03-14-2009, 04:55 PM
Any guess onthe Texans ?

Wolf6151
03-14-2009, 04:57 PM
Any guess onthe Texans ?

I'm hoping for some O-line help, maybe Trevor Canfield.

JCTexan
03-14-2009, 04:59 PM
Any guess onthe Texans ?

My guess is Shonn Greene. There are a couple of other guys I would consider here, but my guess is he selects Greene.

DiehardChris
03-14-2009, 05:03 PM
For the Texans, still on the board (I think):

Rashad Jennings RB
Andre Brown RB

Couple of solid safeties are out there too.

My preference would be Lawrence Sidbury, DE.

Honoring Earl 34
03-14-2009, 05:05 PM
My guess is Shonn Greene. There are a couple of other guys I would consider here, but my guess is he selects Greene.

Maybe , but there's still alot of backs left . I would be down to two players and if the Hogs played the Tigers in a bowl game ... they'd be looking at each other .

The Pencil Neck
03-14-2009, 05:19 PM
For the Texans, still on the board (I think):

Rashad Jennings RB
Andre Brown RB

Couple of solid safeties are out there too.

My preference would be Lawrence Sidbury, DE.

A lot of good picks available to us here.

Shaft75 will find a way to mess it up, though. We should just start booing now.

:jk:

JCTexan
03-14-2009, 05:21 PM
A lot of good picks available to us here.

Shaft75 will find a way to mess it up, though. We should just start booing now.

:jk:

Why are you joking? He's going to mess this up. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! :wild:

Honoring Earl 34
03-14-2009, 05:22 PM
A lot of good picks available to us here.

Shaft75 will find a way to mess it up, though. We should just start booing now.

:jk:

He gets redo's for the Texans sake .

JCTexan
03-14-2009, 05:25 PM
He gets redo's for the Texans sake .

Yeah, we might not want to boo, he might change his mind. :spit:

Texan4Ever
03-14-2009, 05:29 PM
How about Tyron McKenzie from USF. He is supposed to be gone by the 2nd but no one knows about him (well, of course except me :)) He is a tackling machine and a great addittion to our LB corps. Trevor Canfield is another option as well as my Michigan favorite Terrance Taylor who is a beast against the run and a poor mans Kelly Gregg.

TexansSeminole
03-14-2009, 08:20 PM
How about Tyron McKenzie from USF. He is supposed to be gone by the 2nd but no one knows about him (well, of course except me :)) He is a tackling machine and a great addittion to our LB corps. Trevor Canfield is another option as well as my Michigan favorite Terrance Taylor who is a beast against the run and a poor mans Kelly Gregg.

I like McKenzie, I would not be opposed to him here but if we take Cushing I am.

DiehardChris
03-14-2009, 10:14 PM
How about Tyron McKenzie from USF. He is supposed to be gone by the 2nd but no one knows about him (well, of course except me :)) He is a tackling machine and a great addittion to our LB corps. Trevor Canfield is another option as well as my Michigan favorite Terrance Taylor who is a beast against the run and a poor mans Kelly Gregg.

Oh, I'd be all over McKenzie for this pick if we didn't already have Cushing in this scenario.

On the other hand, I think it's a round too early to be thinking Terrance Taylor... but he's another guy that I've got going to the Texans in one of my mocks.

TexansSeminole
03-14-2009, 11:53 PM
I'd like to see us pick up Shonn Greene here. It's good value, and in the same round as Slaton last year.

bah007
03-15-2009, 01:29 AM
Per Bahoo7 pm:

With the 73rd pick The Green Bay Packers Select:

Chase Coffman - TE, Missouri

http://www.themaneater.com/media/2008/1109/photos/fball022-at.jpg

Thanks for covering for me Spec.

Somebody give him some rep for me. I can't give him any right now.

Analysis: I have Coffman as a late 2nd/early 3rd round selection so he was right on the top of my board at this point.

The Packers don't look too bad at TE so Coffman was sort of a luxury pick, but he was BPA.

He isn't a great blocker but he gets the job done and he isn't afraid to poke his nose in there against a DE. He doesn't have great speed but he is deceptively quick and has great hands. He also probably runs the best routes of any of the TE's in this class.

He also has the versatility to play out of the slot as well.

Mari-OWNED!
03-15-2009, 02:18 AM
For the Texans, still on the board (I think):

Rashad Jennings RB
Andre Brown RB

Couple of solid safeties are out there too.

My preference would be Lawrence Sidbury, DE.

I'm probably the BIGGEST Rashad Jennings supporter on these boards. I think he is the PERFECT complement to Steve Slaton. (Sorry guys I'm a bit drunk!) Haha!

mussop
03-15-2009, 03:29 AM
How about Tyron McKenzie from USF. He is supposed to be gone by the 2nd but no one knows about him (well, of course except me :)) He is a tackling machine and a great addittion to our LB corps. Trevor Canfield is another option as well as my Michigan favorite Terrance Taylor who is a beast against the run and a poor mans Kelly Gregg.

Trust me you arent the only one that knows about McKenzie around here. This board is full of draft knowlegeable people. I love TM and I dont care if we have drafted Mathews or Cushing in the first I still think he would be a great pick in the 3rd round for us. I dont care what he ran or benched at the combine the guy is a hell of a football player. He reminds me of Jon Beason.

If we really are going to have our 4 down linemen trying to penatrate and get into the backfield we are going to have to have LB's that can make plays all over the feild. McKenzie is that kind of a LB.

Taylor never impressed me and I watched him alot. He was just kinda there.

I would be happy with any of these players at this spot.
Tyrone McKenzie South Florida OLB43
Victor Harris Virginia Tech CB
Emanuel Cook South Carolina SS
Sammie Lee Hill Stillman DT43 DE34
Andy Kemp Wisconsin OG
Darcel McBath Texas Tech FS
Shonn Greene Iowa RBF
Jonathan Luigs Arkansas OC
Chip Vaughn Wake Forest SS

Honoring Earl 34
03-15-2009, 09:01 AM
My two cents is Johnathon Luigis or Dorell Scott . There's alot of RBs , DBs , and LBs , still on the board . Those two are the hghest rated OL/DL by far ... on my sheet anyway .

Wolf6151
03-15-2009, 11:22 AM
What's the time limit between picks? Shaft75 has been on the clock for 18 hrs.

Shaft75
03-15-2009, 11:52 AM
Sorry folks. My father is in the hospital and has a meningioma, which is basically a tumor the size of a golf ball in his brain. Have had a tough weekend.

My pick is sidbury, because I think I can get my back in a later round.

Specnatz
03-15-2009, 12:38 PM
Sorry folks. My father is in the hospital and has a meningioma, which is basically a tumor the size of a golf ball in his brain. Have had a tough weekend.

My pick is sidbury, because I think I can get my back in a later round.

Sorry to hear about your dad. Prayers are with him and your family

Specnatz
03-15-2009, 12:45 PM
106 Jarett Dillard Rice WRF per draftek.com



65.) Detroit Lions Select: Shawn Nelson, TE, Southern Miss

66.) St. Louis Rams Select: Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas State

67.) Kansas City Chiefs Select: Mike Thomas, WR, Arizona

68.) Seattle Seahawks Select: Andy Levitre, OG, Oregon State

69.) Dallas Cowboys Select: Fili Moala, DT, U.S.C.

70.) Cincinnati Bengals Select: Kraig Urbik, OG, Wisconsin

71.)Oakland Raiders Select: Antoine Caldwell, OC, Alabama

72.) Jacksonville Jaguars Select: Jarett Dillard, WR, Rice

73.) Green Bay Packers Select: Chase Coffman - TE, Missouri

74.) San Francisco 49ers Select: Mike Mickens CB Cincinnati

75.) Buffalo Bills Select: Marcus Freeman, OLB, Ohio State

76.) New York Jets Select: Pat White, QB, West Virginia

77.) Houston Texans Select: Lawrence Sidbury, DE, Richmond

78.) San Diego Chargers Select: Kyle Moore DE, USC

79.) Denver Broncos Select: Darcel McBath, S Texas Tech.

80.) Washington Redskins Select: Jonathan Luigs C Arkansas

81.) Tampa Bay Buccaneers Select: TimeKiller

82.) Detroit Lions Select: Super Mario

The Pencil Neck
03-15-2009, 12:49 PM
Sorry folks. My father is in the hospital and has a meningioma, which is basically a tumor the size of a golf ball in his brain. Have had a tough weekend.


Aw, man. Hate to hear that. You'll be in our thoughts.

steelbtexan
03-15-2009, 01:30 PM
Sorry folks. My father is in the hospital and has a meningioma, which is basically a tumor the size of a golf ball in his brain. Have had a tough weekend.

My pick is sidbury, because I think I can get my back in a later round.

Shaft

Thoughts & prayers

Great pick I wanted Sidbury for the Redskins.

Great value

mussop
03-15-2009, 02:16 PM
Sorry folks. My father is in the hospital and has a meningioma, which is basically a tumor the size of a golf ball in his brain. Have had a tough weekend.

My pick is sidbury, because I think I can get my back in a later round.

Really sorry about youre dad. Hope things get better.


Dont like the pick personnaly. Sid is nothing but a pass rush specialist IMO. We can get those kind of players later.

Wolf6151
03-15-2009, 02:19 PM
Sorry folks. My father is in the hospital and has a meningioma, which is basically a tumor the size of a golf ball in his brain. Have had a tough weekend.

My pick is sidbury, because I think I can get my back in a later round.

Sorry to hear about your dad, prayers sent for him and the doctors.

Showtime100
03-15-2009, 02:35 PM
My thoughts and prayers as well Shaft. Hang in there.

Shaft75
03-15-2009, 04:08 PM
I appreciate it guys. The more prayer the better. Thanks.

Texan4Ever
03-15-2009, 05:45 PM
Sorry folks. My father is in the hospital and has a meningioma, which is basically a tumor the size of a golf ball in his brain. Have had a tough weekend.

My pick is sidbury, because I think I can get my back in a later round.



Hope things go well for you and your family...my thoughts and prayers are with you and your father!

jgl35
03-15-2009, 06:24 PM
My thoughts as well.

Tailgate
03-15-2009, 06:48 PM
With the 78th pick in the 2009 NFL draft, the San Diego Chargers select:

Kyle Moore DE, USC

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/61/613878.jpg

Tough Spot here. Chargers have major needs on both sides of the line still (DT, OT, G, DE)... and with a dwindling pool of players to choose from. Losing Igor to the Cowgirls along with Jamal Williams getting older makes it D-line help here. Kyle Moore is kinda under appreciated as a result of having to play in the shadows of so many great stars on that USC defense. Moore fits the mold for San Diego's multiple defensive system. He has great athleticism and skill for a man of his stature and should settle in at DE. Moore would be an upgrade over Igor imo and could benefit playing next to Jamal Williams.



Btw.... sorry for the delay. Work has been a pain in my arse these past couple of weeks.

Kaiser Toro
03-15-2009, 07:26 PM
With the 79th pick the Denver Broncos select S Darcel McBath, Texas Tech. The Broncos secondary is many moons old and this former CB turned S can learn from the best under Dawkins and Bailey.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/pt/photos/2009/01/090102_NS_02CBclassic6.jpg

steelbtexan
03-15-2009, 08:32 PM
With the 80th pick in the NFL DRAFT the Washington Redskins select Jonathan Luigs C Arkansas


Players I also considered were McKenzie, Brandon Williams & Moala.

The need to rebuild the Redskins OL & the value of Luigs who is one of the most atheletic OL in the draft made this pick a no brainer IMO. There will be no excuses for Jason Campbell this year. If the draft fell this way I would expect Portis to have a big year.


Washington Redskins Mock Draft

RD. 1 William Beatty OT Connecticut
RD. 3 Jonathan Luigs C Arkansas

Specnatz
03-15-2009, 08:51 PM
Per PM from TimeKiller:

With the 81st pick in the 2009 draft

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers Select:


Victor "Macho" Harris CB Virginia Tech

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2008/writers/andy_staples/12/30/orange.bowl/t1_harris.jpg

Specnatz
03-15-2009, 08:56 PM
65.) Detroit Lions Select: Shawn Nelson, TE, Southern Miss

66.) St. Louis Rams Select: Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas State

67.) Kansas City Chiefs Select: Mike Thomas, WR, Arizona

68.) Seattle Seahawks Select: Andy Levitre, OG, Oregon State

69.) Dallas Cowboys Select: Fili Moala, DT, U.S.C.

70.) Cincinnati Bengals Select: Kraig Urbik, OG, Wisconsin

71.)Oakland Raiders Select: Antoine Caldwell, OC, Alabama

72.) Jacksonville Jaguars Select: Jarett Dillard, WR, Rice

73.) Green Bay Packers Select: Chase Coffman - TE, Missouri

74.) San Francisco 49ers Select: Mike Mickens CB Cincinnati

75.) Buffalo Bills Select: Marcus Freeman, OLB, Ohio State

76.) New York Jets Select: Pat White, QB, West Virginia

77.) Houston Texans Select: Lawrence Sidbury, DE, Richmond

78.) San Diego Chargers Select: Kyle Moore DE, USC

79.) Denver Broncos Select: Darcel McBath, S Texas Tech.

80.) Washington Redskins Select: Jonathan Luigs C Arkansas

81.) Tampa Bay Buccaneers Select: Victor “Macho” Harris, CB, Virginia Tech

82.) Detroit Lions Select: Super Mario

83.) Philadelphia Eagles Select: Mari-OWNED!

84.) Green Bay Packers Select: bah007

85.) Chicago Bears Select: jgl35

86.) Minnesota Vikings Select: GROUP PICK

87.) Miami Dolphins Select: Honoring Earl 34

88.) Baltimore Ravens Select: DiehardChris

89.) New England Patriots Select: rmartin65

90.) Atlanta Falcons Select: JCTexan

91.) New York Giants Select: Lork 88

92.) Indianapolis Colts Select: Texan_JBZ

93.) Carolina Panthers Select: The Pencil Neck

94.) Tennessee Titans Select: TimeKiller

95.) Arizona Cardinals Select: BigBull1

96.) Pittsburgh Steelers Select: Ole Miss Texan

bah007
03-15-2009, 09:05 PM
Per PM from TimeKiller:

With the 81st pick in the 2009 draft

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers Select:


Victor "Macho" Harris CB Virginia Tech

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2008/writers/andy_staples/12/30/orange.bowl/t1_harris.jpg

Ouch. I like Harris but he is a cover 2 corner and Tampa is changing their defense. I don't think he will fit into the new scheme unless it is going to be similar to the old one.

Specnatz
03-15-2009, 09:24 PM
Ouch. I like Harris but he is a cover 2 corner and Tampa is changing their defense. I don't think he will fit into the new scheme unless it is going to be similar to the old one.

I think he would do well as Nickel while learning to work in man coverage.

DiehardChris
03-15-2009, 09:57 PM
Really sorry about youre dad. Hope things get better.


Dont like the pick personnaly. Sid is nothing but a pass rush specialist IMO. We can get those kind of players later.


...which is exactly what we need - a pass rush specialist, and specifically - he's a SPEED rusher, which is something we don't have. We have our situational bull/power rush guy in Bulman, and it would be great to have a great speed-rusher as well to come in, change the pace, and keep the offense off balance. Sure, there will be others later in the draft, but this guy has a ton of talent and though I don't see him as a longtime starter - I think he can potentially wreak havoc as a situational rusher.

LOVE the pick.

On the personal side - Shaft, positive thoughts your way, man. I would be completely destroyed if this happened to my dad. So much that I can't even think about it without feeling sick.

Take care and know we're keeping you and your pops in our thoughts.

mussop
03-15-2009, 10:22 PM
...which is exactly what we need - a pass rush specialist, and specifically - he's a SPEED rusher, which is something we don't have. We have our situational bull/power rush guy in Bulman, and it would be great to have a great speed-rusher as well to come in, change the pace, and keep the offense off balance. Sure, there will be others later in the draft, but this guy has a ton of talent and though I don't see him as a longtime starter - I think he can potentially wreak havoc as a situational rusher.
LOVE the pick.

On the personal side - Shaft, positive thoughts your way, man. I would be completely destroyed if this happened to my dad. So much that I can't even think about it without feeling sick.

Take care and know we're keeping you and your pops in our thoughts.

Which is why he isnt worth a 3rd IMO. There were players left that could potentially start. Its just a personal opinion of mine that specialist shouldnt be picked up until the 4th or later. 1st 2nd and 3rd round picks are just to valuable to take someone that cant contribute on a regular basis.

DiehardChris
03-15-2009, 10:42 PM
Which is why he isnt worth a 3rd IMO. There were players left that could potentially start. Its just a personal opinion of mine that specialist shouldnt be picked up until the 4th or later. 1st 2nd and 3rd round picks are just to valuable to take someone that cant contribute on a regular basis.

I don't disagree with your logic here - but in the case of our crippled pass rush, we need a complete make-over... plus, you rotate defensive linemen in and out more than most other positions, so he would see the field plenty.

Like you said, personal preference... but I'd LOVE to see this guy in a Texans uni.

bah007
03-16-2009, 12:03 AM
Never mind. Delete.

Blake
03-16-2009, 12:04 AM
The Detroit Lions Select:

Darry Beckwith, LB, L.S.U.

http://www.tigerrag.com/wp-content/uploads/darry-beckwith_low.jpg

Blake
03-16-2009, 12:05 AM
The list has been updated. LINK. (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59395)

DiehardChris
03-16-2009, 12:17 AM
Never mind. Delete.

If this was about Sidbury, I'd like to hear your thoughts. If it wasn't - I'd still like to hear your thoughts on him, heh.

Specnatz
03-16-2009, 12:27 AM
If this was about Sidbury, I'd like to hear your thoughts. If it wasn't - I'd still like to hear your thoughts on him, heh.

I heard his favorite color is pink. I am not saying just sayin.




I am off the hook for the draft Woohoo

bah007
03-16-2009, 12:28 AM
If this was about Sidbury, I'd like to hear your thoughts. If it wasn't - I'd still like to hear your thoughts on him, heh.

It was about Super Mario. I didn't know if he had PM'ed anybody with his list just in case he didn't make his pick in time, but he made his pick just a few minutes after I posted it so I deleted the question.

On Sidbury, his measurables are top notch. He has long arms, a quick burst, and a good motor. He played his best against the best teams he played (four sacks in the national championship, I believe). He also looked good in the Senior Bowl practices from what I have read.

Quality of competition is going to be a concern as he was really only productive for one year. He will also need to learn to fight through blocks instead of running around them. You can get away with that stuff at Richmond, but not in the NFL.

DiehardChris
03-16-2009, 12:51 AM
It was about Super Mario. I didn't know if he had PM'ed anybody with his list just in case he didn't make his pick in time, but he made his pick just a few minutes after I posted it so I deleted the question.

On Sidbury, his measurables are top notch. He has long arms, a quick burst, and a good motor. He played his best against the best teams he played (four sacks in the national championship, I believe). He also looked good in the Senior Bowl practices from what I have read.

Quality of competition is going to be a concern as he was really only productive for one year. He will also need to learn to fight through blocks instead of running around them. You can get away with that stuff at Richmond, but not in the NFL.

The competition level thing is my biggest concern, but I like the fact that he often dominated the competition, so that makes me think he could hack it at the next level. Also - I just like the idea of a depth speed-rusher, and I figure he'll be the best one left on the board post 2nd-round (though it wouldn't shock me if he went very late 2nd or early 3rd before we pick).

Of course, the most likely scenario is that he's not even on the Texans' radar. :gun:

Specnatz
03-16-2009, 12:56 AM
The competition level thing is my biggest concern, but I like the fact that he often dominated the competition, so that makes me think he could hack it at the next level. Also - I just like the idea of a depth speed-rusher, and I figure he'll be the best one left on the board post 2nd-round (though it wouldn't shock me if he went very late 2nd or early 3rd before we pick).

Of course, the most likely scenario is that he's not even on the Texans' radar. :gun:


http://www.drafttek.com/round42009.asp

Has Sid Vicious going in the 4th to the cowgirls. (could not resist on the nickname)

113 Dallas Lawrence Sidbury Jr. OLB34 Richmond -4 Reach

This is a site I like because they do a 7 round mock and their evals seems to be in line with other places.

Goldensilence
03-16-2009, 12:59 AM
The competition level thing is my biggest concern, but I like the fact that he often dominated the competition, so that makes me think he could hack it at the next level. Also - I just like the idea of a depth speed-rusher, and I figure he'll be the best one left on the board post 2nd-round (though it wouldn't shock me if he went very late 2nd or early 3rd before we pick).

Of course, the most likely scenario is that he's not even on the Texans' radar. :gun:


Highly doubtful. The FO the past few years has been pretty keen on small school guys. Sidbury might just be this year's annual take a flyer on small school guy with our third round pick. I have this sick feeling in my gut that says Babin 2.0 for some reason. Might be unfounded but that's what i am feeling.

threetoedpete
03-16-2009, 01:38 AM
http://www.drafttek.com/round42009.asp

Has Sid Vicious going in the 4th to the cowgirls. (could not resist on the nickname)

113 Dallas Lawrence Sidbury Jr. OLB34 Richmond -4 Reach

This is a site I like because they do a 7 round mock and their evals seems to be in line with other places.

Yeah and he's got a guy coming off a shredded knee going to the titians at the 126, at plus eleven. Go figure.

32.) Pittsburgh Steelers Select: Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma
__________________

Don't know about that one.

threetoedpete
03-16-2009, 01:42 AM
Shaft

Thoughts & prayers

Great pick I wanted Sidbury for the Redskins.

Great value

Been through this four times now. I wish I could tell you it gets easier.

Hang in there shaft. Me to. Thoughts and prayers.

threetoedpete
03-16-2009, 02:00 AM
The competition level thing is my biggest concern, but I like the fact that he often dominated the competition, so that makes me think he could hack it at the next level. Also - I just like the idea of a depth speed-rusher, and I figure he'll be the best one left on the board post 2nd-round (though it wouldn't shock me if he went very late 2nd or early 3rd before we pick).

Of course, the most likely scenario is that he's not even on the Texans' radar.
:gun:

http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews.com/index.php/2009/02/04/richmond-de-lawrence-sidbury-drills-for?blog=2
Drills for skills
By John O’Connor, The Richmond Times-Dispatch
Photo Credit: Dean Hoffmeyer/The Richmond Times-Dispatch
“He had a chance to rush against these tackles that are rated highly,” said UR coach Mike London. “And he goes out and he competes, and he does well against them. I’m hearing from a bunch of scouts that his stock is rising.”

Some scouts believe Sidbury, from Cheltenham, Md., has an NFL future at outside linebacker, though he played defensive end through four seasons as a Spider.


Does it seem silly to you that 35-inch arms and 10½-inch hands are valued so highly by NFL scouts?

Yeah, I mean, you can’t really help how long your arms and fingers are. They do help you though. They work in my favor. I just kind of had them, so I used them, just tried to keep blockers off me with them.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/lawrence-sidbury,-jr.?id=71463

Overview

Given the relative success enjoyed this season by Arizona rookie running back Tim Hightower, a former Richmond star, scouts have less anxiety in projecting a standout from the Colonial Athletic Association into the NFL. That can only bode well for Sidbury, a two-time CAA first-team selection whose 11.5 sacks in 2008 helped the Spiders win a national championship. Sidbury lacks the bulk and strength to compete as more than a rotational pass rusher at the next level, but his upfield burst and strong performance in the national championship game against Montana (four sacks) and during the week of practice at the East-West Shrine Game secured his status as a second-day draft pick.

Analysis

Positives: Solidly built athlete with room for additional mass, especially in his upper body. ... Long arms. ... Flashes initial quickness off the snap to pressure the outside. ... Good lateral quickness to redirect back to the inside if he senses the tackle leaning outside. ... Good spin and reverse spin move to clear the offensive tackle quickly. ... Good hand placement and use of leverage to bull rush the tackle into the pocket. ... Can close quickly with an open lane. ... Good effort in pursuit. ... Can break down in space to make the clean open-field tackle. ... Flashes some explosiveness as a hitter. ... Helped himself with a solid week of practice at the East-West Shrine Game.

Negatives: Lacks the height and bulk in his lower body most teams prefer in a defensive end. ... Marginal strength at the point of attack and can be targeted in the running game. ... Likes to run around blocks in space, rather than take them on and discard. ... Lacks explosiveness off the snap and is often late. ... Enjoyed much of his success while rushing from the left defensive end position and going against the right tackle. ... Inconsistent. ... Tends to make plays in bunches and then disappear for long stretches.

My eyes say Sid will develop into a beast. 4.64/10'/ 4.43 three cone

Specnatz
03-16-2009, 02:19 AM
Don't know about that one.

Why? He is the best G in the draft and when you draft at 25 + it is all about depth. So to question the pick is silly.

Mari-OWNED!
03-16-2009, 02:50 AM
With the 83rd pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles select...

Fenuki Tupou - OT, Oregon

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/catch_all/nfl_image/combine/headshots/71487.jpg

I feel like I did well in this draft considering how the picks came to be. Obviously the Eagles need help with their offensive line, but with the 1st round really heavy early on OT's, I managed to address some other needs on offense. Beanie Wells will complement Brian Westbrook perfectly IMO, and Brandon Pettigrew can be one of the receiving weapons that Donovan McNabb has needed since they got rid of T.O.

In the 2nd and 3rd round, I had to address the OL. Phil Loadholt can replace the aging Jon Runyan, and Fenuki Tupou can bring some much needed depth to the OL.

Thanks guys, this draft was really fun!

TimeKiller
03-16-2009, 07:39 AM
Ouch. I like Harris but he is a cover 2 corner and Tampa is changing their defense. I don't think he will fit into the new scheme unless it is going to be similar to the old one.

Well, I guess all or most of their current defense is in the garbage anyway if that's the case. I don't know exactly how a guy who can cover won't fit into any scheme but if you know why this is a bad pick, please share a little more of your information. Harris is somebody who has some skills to learn behind Ronde Barber's last few years and the heir apparent in Aqib Talib.

steelbtexan
03-16-2009, 08:39 AM
How can Sidbury have initial quickness off the snap but lack explosiveness?

I believe these draft gurus dont read what they write.

beerlover
03-16-2009, 09:53 AM
I would like to see this cotinue through the 4th rd. Texans have two picks you know & I'm dying to see who they select :thinking:

Honoring Earl 34
03-16-2009, 10:09 AM
I would like to see this cotinue through the 4th rd. Texans have two picks you know & I'm dying to see who they select :thinking:

If it stops , then I say get the ones who are interested and finish it in a night . You , me , KT , and a couple of others to take some teams and we'll finish it in an hour .

bah007
03-16-2009, 10:23 AM
Well, I guess all or most of their current defense is in the garbage anyway if that's the case. I don't know exactly how a guy who can cover won't fit into any scheme but if you know why this is a bad pick, please share a little more of your information. Harris is somebody who has some skills to learn behind Ronde Barber's last few years and the heir apparent in Aqib Talib.

I didn't say it was a bad pick. I like Harris a lot.

He is a physical corner who is not afraid to come up against the run and put a hit on somebody.

He is also a little bit tight in the hips and slightly overaggressive when the ball is in the air. That suggests to me that he would be a better player in a cover 2 scheme than in a man coverage scheme.

And apparently, the Bucs won't be running the Cover 2 next year that Monte Kiffin made famous. I said ouch because if they get Harris then that would mean the last two years they got two really good cover 2 corners (Talib), and now they aren't running that defense anymore.

Honoring Earl 34
03-16-2009, 10:30 AM
I didn't say it was a bad pick. I like Harris a lot.

He is a physical corner who is not afraid to come up against the run and put a hit on somebody.

He is also a little bit tight in the hips and slightly overaggressive when the ball is in the air. That suggests to me that he would be a better player in a cover 2 scheme than in a man coverage scheme.

And apparently, the Bucs won't be running the Cover 2 next year that Monte Kiffin made famous. I said ouch because if they get Harris then that would mean the last two years they got two really good cover 2 corners (Talib), and now they aren't running that defense anymore.

It's your pick .

TexansSeminole
03-16-2009, 10:34 AM
It's your pick .

I'm not sure he realized that before he left.

bah007
03-16-2009, 10:56 AM
With the 84th overall pick in the 2009 NFL Mock Draft, the Green Bay Packers select:

Herman Johnson - OG, LSU

http://www.nationalchamps.net/2008/sub/pics/small/louisianastate_herman_johnson.jpg

Analysis: I was tempted to go defense again right here but I couldn't pass up Johnson. He is a big mean guard that moves piles. There has also been some draft talk about Johnson being able to play RT because of his arm length. We will bring him into camp, see where he fits, and plug him in.

He may need to lose a little bit more weight as stamina was a factor in college, but Johnson has also been a hard worker with high character so I believe he will do whatever is asked of him.

beerlover
03-16-2009, 11:01 AM
packers are having themselves a pretty nice draft :)

Shaft75
03-16-2009, 11:13 AM
With the 84th overall pick in the 2009 NFL Mock Draft, the Green Bay Packers select:

Herman Johnson - OG, LSU

http://www.nationalchamps.net/2008/sub/pics/small/louisianastate_herman_johnson.jpg

Analysis: I was tempted to go defense again right here but I couldn't pass up Johnson. He is a big mean guard that moves piles. There has also been some draft talk about Johnson being able to play RT because of his arm length. We will bring him into camp, see where he fits, and plug him in.

He may need to lose a little bit more weight as stamina was a factor in college, but Johnson has also been a hard worker with high character so I believe he will do whatever is asked of him.

He was also the biggest newborn in LA, right???

HOU-TEX
03-16-2009, 11:47 AM
He was also the biggest newborn in LA, right???

Yeah. Not that it's a red flag or anything, but he only lifted 225lbs 18 times, I think. You'd think a man of his size would easily throw 225 around more than 18 times.

bah007
03-16-2009, 11:49 AM
Yeah. Not that it's a red flag or anything, but he only lifted 225lbs 18 times, I think. You'd think a man of his size would easily throw 225 around more than 18 times.

He also has very long arms. You might need to take that into account when looking at his bench numbers.

HOU-TEX
03-16-2009, 11:56 AM
He also has very long arms. You might need to take that into account when looking at his bench numbers.

This is true, very true. I still think it's a bit low, but you are correct. Being a knuckle-dragger myself, I can attest to that. :cool:

bah007
03-16-2009, 12:04 PM
This is true, very true. I still think it's a bit low, but you are correct. Being a knuckle-dragger myself, I can attest to that. :cool:

I also think it's a bit low, even with the long arms.

But he looks plenty strong on the football field. And that's what really matters.

jgl35
03-16-2009, 12:11 PM
The Bears select David Bruton Safety Notre Dame.
With Brown being 32 and a free agent, there is a need for some young blood at Safety.
Bruton has 176 tackles,7 interceptions, and 2 forced fumbles as a two year starter. He is also one of the best "gunners" on special teams in college football. He will improve the special teams while learning the pro game as a back up Safety and be ready to play free safety as soon as he gets the system down.

Honoring Earl 34
03-16-2009, 12:21 PM
Group pick for the Vikings ... anyone . I'll say Dorell Scott .

bah007
03-16-2009, 12:28 PM
Group pick for the Vikings ... anyone . I'll say Dorell Scott .

I would go either Dorrell Scott or Trevor Canfield.

TimeKiller
03-16-2009, 12:29 PM
I didn't say it was a bad pick. I like Harris a lot.

He is a physical corner who is not afraid to come up against the run and put a hit on somebody.

He is also a little bit tight in the hips and slightly overaggressive when the ball is in the air. That suggests to me that he would be a better player in a cover 2 scheme than in a man coverage scheme.

And apparently, the Bucs won't be running the Cover 2 next year that Monte Kiffin made famous. I said ouch because if they get Harris then that would mean the last two years they got two really good cover 2 corners (Talib), and now they aren't running that defense anymore.

I guess man, you seemed to not like the pick so I was just wondering why. I certainly am not expecting a super stud CB here, I'm looking for a guy with tools to come in and learn behind vets. I suppose I should've researched scheme a little more, I just looked at needs and the value for Harris here seems pretty good to me. Schemes change pretty regularly in the NFL anyway so I assume that players either find a way to adjust and get better or find their way out the door looking for a new job.

Put me down for a 4th round, whether we still do team selections or just pick as a group

Texan4Ever
03-16-2009, 12:32 PM
Group pick for the Vikings ... anyone . I'll say Dorell Scott .



I'd go with Dorell Scott as a DT or Terrance Taylor b/c he is one of the best run-stopping DTs available. Also, Tyrone McKenzie is a great addittion to there LB corps and they also need a WR, Safety, and CB.

I'm also down for finsihing the mock draft all through 7 rounds.

DiehardChris
03-16-2009, 12:34 PM
Group pick for the Vikings ... anyone . I'll say Dorell Scott .

Apparently one of their big needs is an offensive tackle - Phil Loadholt is still on the board. I think Loadholt, or a center as they lost their starter to FA.

My vote would be Loadholt or the best Center available.

EDIT Never mind about Loadholt - I was looking at my big board for a different mock I'm participating in. He's long gone.

Honoring Earl 34
03-16-2009, 12:36 PM
I'd go with Dorell Scott as a DT or Terrance Taylor b/c he is one of the best run-stopping DTs available. Also, Tyrone McKenzie is a great addittion to there LB corps and they also need a WR, Safety, and CB.

I'm also down for finsihing the mock draft all through 7 rounds.

I think the Williams tandem may have suspensions coming , that's why I say Scott . The Penn Stae Cadogan is there as an OT .

bah007
03-16-2009, 12:41 PM
I guess man, you seemed to not like the pick so I was just wondering why. I certainly am not expecting a super stud CB here, I'm looking for a guy with tools to come in and learn behind vets. I suppose I should've researched scheme a little more, I just looked at needs and the value for Harris here seems pretty good to me. Schemes change pretty regularly in the NFL anyway so I assume that players either find a way to adjust and get better or find their way out the door looking for a new job.

Put me down for a 4th round, whether we still do team selections or just pick as a group

No, I like the pick.

It just sucks that they get Talib and Harris (two good cover 2 CB's) right before they change schemes away from the cover 2.

I'm not saying he won't be successful in a different scheme, I just think he would be better in cover 2.

Honoring Earl 34
03-16-2009, 12:44 PM
Somebody pick for the Vikings so I can pick . Y'all are going to get me fired then what ?

Specnatz
03-16-2009, 12:45 PM
I think the Williams tandem may have suspensions coming , that's why I say Scott . The Penn Stae Cadogan is there as an OT .

I was just going to mention Cadogan, that is who I would say.

Goldensilence
03-16-2009, 12:45 PM
I'm good with Dorrell. Aren't the Williams getting up there in age?

Honoring Earl 34
03-16-2009, 12:49 PM
I was just going to mention Cadogan, that is who I would say.

OK ... Cadogan .

DiehardChris
03-16-2009, 01:01 PM
I don't think we should rush through the Vikes pick just to get to the next - let's make sure we have a mini-consensus.

Dorell Scott makes sense because yeah, at least one of the Williams is like 37.

I think OT would be smart, but I'm not sure Cadogan is the best fit.

I'm cool with Scott.

Honoring Earl 34
03-16-2009, 01:04 PM
I don't think we should rush through the Vikes pick just to get to the next - let's make sure we have a mini-consensus.

Dorell Scott makes sense because yeah, at least one of the Williams is like 37.

I think OT would be smart, but I'm not sure Cadogan is the best fit.

I'm cool with Scott.

Scott is the BPA at a need position to me .

The Pencil Neck
03-16-2009, 01:05 PM
I'm good with Dorell Scott or Cadogan at this point. I think it's too early for A.Q. Shipley.

I'd say Scott.

bah007
03-16-2009, 01:06 PM
Scott is the BPA at a need position to me .

Agreed.

Canfield is the best available on my board, but Scott is right there at the top and he fills a need.

I vote Scott.

DiehardChris
03-16-2009, 01:07 PM
Okay, much better.

Let's make the pick Scott.

DiehardChris
03-16-2009, 01:12 PM
This is terrible timing - but I'm up after Earl, but I have to run out. I'll have my Ravens pick this afternoon for sure. I need to do a bit more research.

bah007
03-16-2009, 01:13 PM
Y'all want me to put up an analysis of Scott for the pick?

Texan4Ever
03-16-2009, 01:19 PM
How about Chris Baker from Hampton, Roy Miller from Texas, or Terrance Knighton from Temple? These are some of the best DTs to take in the third round IMO.

JCTexan
03-16-2009, 01:20 PM
How about Chris Baker from Hampton, Roy Miller from Texas, or Terrance Knighton from Temple? These are some of the best DTs to take in the third round IMO.

What about Alex Magee?

Honoring Earl 34
03-16-2009, 01:21 PM
So it's Scott ?

The Pencil Neck
03-16-2009, 01:34 PM
How about Chris Baker from Hampton, Roy Miller from Texas, or Terrance Knighton from Temple? These are some of the best DTs to take in the third round IMO.

I've got Scott rated slightly higher than Chris Baker. I've got Miller and Knighton a bit further down the food chain.

DiehardChris
03-16-2009, 01:45 PM
I'm back unexpectedly quick from the errands I had to run, so I'll be around once I'm up after Earl.

Specnatz
03-16-2009, 01:47 PM
Scott is the BPA at a need position to me .

Works for me.

Goldensilence
03-16-2009, 01:47 PM
So it's Scott ?

I'm going to say we should go ahead and pencil it in then move on. You're up.

DiehardChris
03-16-2009, 01:50 PM
We've had several people now agree on Scott.

Let's do it. Dorell Scott.

The Pencil Neck
03-16-2009, 02:00 PM
We've had several people now agree on Scott.

Let's do it. Dorell Scott.

If we get a lot of disagreement, we can just say we were joking.




Hey, Shaft! Wazzup? :tiphat:

Honoring Earl 34
03-16-2009, 02:00 PM
OK ... here's my biggest hail Mary .

I'm picking Jasper Brinkley , a big run stuffing ILB , who was a 1st team SEC LB until he suffered a knee injury . I think if he wouldn't have gotten injured he may have been a better prospect at ILB than Rey M . Jasper showed he's pretty well recovered and brings a another tough presence to Miami's defense .

http://media.charlotteobserver.com/smedia/2008/09/13/19/48-scga_cab005.standalone.prod_affiliate.138.JPG

DiehardChris
03-16-2009, 02:05 PM
OK ... here's my biggest hail Mary .

I'm picking Jasper Brinkley , a big run stuffing ILB , who was a 1st team SEC LB until he suffered a knee injury . I think if he wouldn't have gotten injured he may have been a better prospect at ILB than Rey M . Jasper showed he's pretty well recovered and brings a another tough presence to Miami's defense .

I think Jasper Brinkley is awesome. If it's a reach at all, it's not a HUGE reach.

TexansSeminole
03-16-2009, 02:05 PM
OK ... here's my biggest hail Mary .

I'm picking Jasper Brinkley , a big run stuffing ILB , who was a 1st team SEC LB until he suffered a knee injury . I think if he wouldn't have gotten injured he may have been a better prospect at ILB than Rey M . Jasper showed he's pretty well recovered and brings a another tough presence to Miami's defense .

I don't think that's a huge hail mary. Brinkley was a good player even at that larger weight he played with for most of his time at South Carolina.

Plus, Miami really needs ILBs. My Dolphins friends do not like Channing Crowder playing ILB in that 3-4 and the Dolphins don't have anybody else worth mentioning at the spot.

bah007
03-16-2009, 03:27 PM
OK ... here's my biggest hail Mary .

I'm picking Jasper Brinkley , a big run stuffing ILB , who was a 1st team SEC LB until he suffered a knee injury . I think if he wouldn't have gotten injured he may have been a better prospect at ILB than Rey M . Jasper showed he's pretty well recovered and brings a another tough presence to Miami's defense .

If I was going ILB I would have taken Jason Phillips (TCU), but Brinkley is a good player.

DiehardChris
03-16-2009, 03:38 PM
With their third round pick, 88th overall - the Baltimore Ravens select:

Ricky Jean-Francois, DT, LSU

http://www.collegefootballfansite.com/images/photos/60827.jpg

Trevor Pryce will be 34 in August, and Francois could provide versatile depth for the defensive line, and eventually replace Pryce who this time next year will be almost 35 and scheduled to make $4.5 million in 2010.

I was looking at a blocking TE and an OT here, but I think one and possibly both will still be on the board for my fourth pick.

... also - the guy I had kind of decided to pick (Jasper Brinkley, the guy I thought might "replace" Ray Lewis one day) literally went one spot behind me, which I didn't count on because some would say he's a reach here.

So - nice pick by Earl, IMO.

The New England Patriots & rmartin65 are now on the clock!

Honoring Earl 34
03-16-2009, 03:40 PM
If I was going ILB I would have taken Jason Phillips (TCU), but Brinkley is a good player.

Ones got a knee injury and the other is recovering . If all things are equal ... I'm going with the SEC guy .

rmartin65
03-16-2009, 03:42 PM
With 89th pick in the 2009 Texans Talk Mock Draft, the New England Patriots select Trevor Canfield, OG, Cincinnati.

http://www.nationalchamps.net/2007/sub/pics/small/cincinnati_trevor_canfield_sm.jpg

Canfield provides depth for an aging OLine. He can backup both guard spots, and maybe even the RT. He has a nasty disposition, and is a team player.

mussop
03-16-2009, 04:06 PM
With 89th pick in the 2009 Texans Talk Mock Draft, the New England Patriots select Trevor Canfield, OG, Cincinnati.

http://www.nationalchamps.net/2007/sub/pics/small/cincinnati_trevor_canfield_sm.jpg

Canfield provides depth for an aging OLine. He can backup both guard spots, and maybe even the RT. He has a nasty disposition, and is a team player.

Wow nice draft! I didt realize NE had 5 picks in the first three rounds.

Shaft75
03-16-2009, 04:18 PM
If we get a lot of disagreement, we can just say we were joking.




Hey, Shaft! Wazzup? :tiphat:

Can I change it again? Now I think I want Harvin...:gun:

rmartin65
03-16-2009, 04:18 PM
Wow nice draft! I didt realize NE had 5 picks in the first three rounds.

Thank you. And yep, I lucked out in the lottery. I was able to do alot, and am happy with my draft, I dont think I would have changed anything looking back. I would really enjoy going more rounds, anybody else in?

JCTexan
03-16-2009, 04:21 PM
With the 90th pick in the NFL draft the Atlanta Falcons select...

Keenan Lewis, CB, Oregon State


http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r114/knight7225/KeenanLewis.jpg

A four-year starter at Oregon State, Lewis has good size for the position and matches up well against taller receivers. He fits the Falcons cover-two defense well.

I wanted a DT here, but Scott didn't fall and I don't see any other DT worth this pick, so I decided to go with the CB from Oregon State.

DiehardChris
03-16-2009, 04:46 PM
Thank you. And yep, I lucked out in the lottery. I was able to do alot, and am happy with my draft, I dont think I would have changed anything looking back. I would really enjoy going more rounds, anybody else in?

I'm definitely up for doing all rounds, or even doing another mock.

Honoring Earl 34
03-16-2009, 04:49 PM
I'm definitely up for doing all rounds, or even doing another mock.

I think we really wanted to finish the 4th at the very least because the Texans have two in the 4th . We could designate a time and divvy up teams , 5 minutes per team and finish the 4th in no time.

Shaft75
03-16-2009, 04:55 PM
I'm down. I might need to be assigned a partner though. I don't have a tremendous knowledge of the late round prospects.

Specnatz
03-16-2009, 05:00 PM
I'm In

Texan4Ever
03-16-2009, 05:01 PM
I'm ALWAYS In :tiphat:

Goldensilence
03-16-2009, 05:10 PM
I can at least make it throug the fourth round though I am not as versed in some of the late round picks. While I haven't had a flashy draft for the Raiders I think that is something different in itself. I had to address one of the worst run defenses in the league and I think B.J. Raji will help tremendously will that. Javon Walker has not made the impact that they ahve hoped but if he's healthy this year Him and Britt will make great targets for Russell. My third round pick was hard to go with but if this offense is going to do anything next year they are going to have to be solid on the line. That was made difficult with Jake Grove leaving. I picked up whom I thought was the best center available in Caldwell.

So far I think Bah has done a good job for the Pack and I think Super Mario has done agood job retooling the Lions into a team that can bounce back from last year's disaster.

The Pencil Neck
03-16-2009, 05:14 PM
I think we really wanted to finish the 4th at the very least because the Texans have two in the 4th . We could designate a time and divvy up teams , 5 minutes per team and finish the 4th in no time.

I'd like to give it a shot but I might be spotty time-wise in the evenings until about 9:00-9:30 pm. Then I'm pretty solid and should be available.

Shaft75
03-16-2009, 05:19 PM
So far I think Bah has done a good job for the Pack and I think Super Mario has done agood job retooling the Lions into a team that can bounce back from last year's disaster.

Hell, I think I got some impact players on defense. I am pretty happy with my draft so far. Give me a back up RB that can pound it in and some OL depth in some of the later rounds and we're good as gold.

bah007
03-16-2009, 05:21 PM
I'd like to give it a shot but I might be spotty time-wise in the evenings until about 9:00-9:30 pm. Then I'm pretty solid and should be available.

I'm in as well, depending on when.

Honoring Earl 34
03-16-2009, 05:22 PM
I guess we can get through this round and see who wants to committ an hour one evening around 9:00 .

Texan4Ever
03-16-2009, 05:41 PM
Good few picks...mock is looking pretty real so far.

JCTexan
03-16-2009, 06:02 PM
I'm down for doing another round too. :tiphat:

DiehardChris
03-16-2009, 06:22 PM
The New York Giants (Lork88) are on the clock.

jgl35
03-16-2009, 07:29 PM
I will stay in.

mussop
03-16-2009, 08:02 PM
I'm definitely up for doing all rounds, or even doing another mock.

Hell yeh we started this lets finish it. There is still 39d 17h 57m 24s till the draft so why not?

Mari-OWNED!
03-16-2009, 11:13 PM
Meh, if yall continue on to the 4th round and on, someone can take my Iggles.

If you start over though with a new one I'd be down. I just don't really care for going beyond the first three rounds.

Texan4Ever
03-16-2009, 11:26 PM
Meh, if yall continue on to the 4th round and on, someone can take my Iggles.

If you start over though with a new one I'd be down. I just don't really care for going beyond the first three rounds.



I'll take yhe Eagles if thats cool with everyone through the 7th...

Specnatz
03-16-2009, 11:37 PM
I'll take yhe Eagles if thats cool with everyone through the 7th...

what ever works.

steelbtexan
03-17-2009, 12:54 AM
I'm in

I'm going out of town but will check in regularly

BigBull17
03-17-2009, 10:50 AM
Yeah, Ill take my last 3rd rounder, but I'm not going past that.

beerlover
03-17-2009, 11:01 AM
Giants still on clock :foottap:

bah007
03-17-2009, 11:23 AM
Giants still on clock :foottap:

It's been way longer than 12 hours too. Closer to 20.

Shaft75
03-17-2009, 11:31 AM
It's been way longer than 12 hours too. Closer to 20.

Group pick time.

bah007
03-17-2009, 12:08 PM
I won't be on for a couple of hours but if y'all are gonna do a group pick then here are some names:

The Giants have already addressed WR, TE, & OT (in that order).

If they want some more depth behind Jacobs there are still some good RB's out there (R. Jennings, S. Greene, A.Brown, J. Davis).

They could go OLB (G. McRath, T. McKenzie).

Or get some depth at FS (D. Pegues)

TexansSeminole
03-17-2009, 12:15 PM
I vote OLB McKenzie for the Giants here.

DiehardChris
03-17-2009, 12:40 PM
I think McKenzie is the guy as well. He'd fit with the Giants nicely.

beerlover
03-17-2009, 12:42 PM
I think McKenzie is the guy as well. He'd fit with the Giants nicely.

defensive player, McKenzie is fine.

bah007
03-17-2009, 02:08 PM
Sorry Lork 88.

With the 91st overall pick in the 2009 NFL Mock Draft the New York Giants select:

Tyrone McKenzie - OLB, South Florida

https://admin.xosn.com/pics22/400/AJ/AJAZOLHQFUTDADC.20080903002656.jpg

Indianapolis Colts and Texan_JBZ are on the clock for the #92 pick...

The Pencil Neck
03-17-2009, 02:46 PM
Sorry Lork 88.

With the 91st overall pick in the 2009 NFL Mock Draft the New York Giants select:

Tyrone McKenzie - OLB, South Florida

https://admin.xosn.com/pics22/400/AJ/AJAZOLHQFUTDADC.20080903002656.jpg

Indianapolis Colts and Texan_JBZ are on the clock for the #92 pick...

That's a good pick. When I was looking into the Gints in the first Mock, a lot of guys on the Giants boards were screaming for a new OLB.

Texan4Ever
03-17-2009, 04:04 PM
That's a good pick. When I was looking into the Gints in the first Mock, a lot of guys on the Giants boards were screaming for a new OLB.

The G-men are going to have a killer D. They got Canty, Boley, and if they get McKenzie to add onto there current defense...thats one sick :d:

HOU-TEX
03-17-2009, 04:26 PM
The G-men are going to have a killer D. They got Canty, Boley, and if they get McKenzie to add onto there current defense...thats one sick :d:

They also brought in Rocky Bernard. I think it's obvious what the Giants are trying to do. The Texans will likely do the same through the draft. BUILD THE DEFENSE!

Shaft75
03-17-2009, 04:28 PM
They also brought in Rocky Bernard. I think it's obvious what the Giants are trying to do. The Texans will likely do the same through the draft. BUILD THE DEFENSE!

mmmmhhhmmmm... You mean that's what the Texans are doing through the draft.

Nice pick with McKenzie.

Texan JBZ
03-17-2009, 05:16 PM
With the 92nd Pick, the Indy Colts select Mitch King, 6'2" 280lbs, DL, Iowa. (Note: I don't know if he's been selected already because I've been out of town. If he has let me know)

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Versatile player who can play both the 3-tech and DE for the Colts. Quick and hard-nosed player.

Texan4Ever
03-17-2009, 05:23 PM
With the 92nd Pick, the Indy Colts select Mitch King, 6'2" 280lbs, DL, Iowa. (Note: I don't know if he's been selected already because I've been out of town. If he has let me know)

http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:f_QJpvm3n1kRvM:http://www.hn-media.net/photos/ted/wisc/gallery1/King%2520Tackle%2520IA-WI05%25208GB%25202%2520109.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.hn-media.net/photos/ted/wisc/gallery1/King%2520Tackle%2520IA-WI05%25208GB%25202%2520109.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.hn-media.net/photos/ted/wisc/gallery1/index.html&usg=__XU7mLNtT0eHHqek5Ll7gGCzVVZw=&h=267&w=400&sz=89&hl=en&start=12&um=1&tbnid=f_QJpvm3n1kRvM:&tbnh=83&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmitch%2Bking%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26um% 3D1)

Versatile player who can play both the 3-tech and DE for the Colts. Quick and hard-nosed player.



Hmmmm....the Colts couldv'e used some other players still avaiable but okay. Honestly, don't know too much about him but thanks for making the pick....

The Pencil Neck
03-17-2009, 05:38 PM
http://www.markportermedia.com/Images/North%20South%20Best2006/20%20Nate%20Davis%20QB.jpg

With the 93rd pick, the Carolina Panthers select Nate Davis, QB.

With Delhomme getting old and having some questions about Matt Moore, the Panthers select probably the 4th best QB in this draft. He's big, he's strong... and he needs some time to get polished.

From FF Toolbox:

Davis has it all. A big frame, powerful arm, and accuracy to go along with them. He is athletic enough to buy time with his leg, and he goes through his progressions with relative ease. Check his second and third options rather regularly. He is a leader who takes command of the huddle. However, he lacks experience, his throwing motion needs refinement and his footwork needs more development.

Davis, a junior, is a rare physical specimen. He is a true NFL product. If he declares, and all indications points towards that, he would be highly sought after by many teams. He is a second round talent who, with a great last two months of the season, could sneak into the later stages of the first round. Davis will be a starter in the NFL by 2010.

DiehardChris
03-17-2009, 06:00 PM
The Tennessee Titans & TimeKiller (#94) are on the clock!

Honoring Earl 34
03-17-2009, 06:12 PM
I think Bud will order them to take Stephen Mcgee to get the Aggie support .

JCTexan
03-17-2009, 06:21 PM
I think Bud will order them to take Stephen Mcgee to get the Aggie support .

Or Quan Cosby... You can never have too many Longhorns. :gun:

bah007
03-17-2009, 06:21 PM
Hmmmm....the Colts couldv'e used some other players still avaiable but okay. Honestly, don't know too much about him but thanks for making the pick....

King is a player.

He is kind of stuck between positions though. He will either be an undersized, athletic DT or a run stuffing DE.

I think he would do well as a 34 DE, but he actually isn't a bad pick for the Colts if they are staying with the Tampa 2 defense. That defense requires all your linemen to be able to pressure the QB, which King is capable of.

bah007
03-17-2009, 06:22 PM
Or Quan Cosby... You can never have too many Longhorns. :gun:

We don't want them getting the good Longhorns though.

They already got Michael Griffin. We don't want them to get Cosby too.

Texan4Ever
03-17-2009, 06:41 PM
King is a player.

He is kind of stuck between positions though. He will either be an undersized, athletic DT or a run stuffing DE.

I think he would do well as a 34 DE, but he actually isn't a bad pick for the Colts if they are staying with the Tampa 2 defense. That defense requires all your linemen to be able to pressure the QB, which King is capable of.



Oh ok...I thought with Gundy retiring they would consider switching defensive schemes or change to a 3-4 since that seems to be the craze nowadays.

bah007
03-17-2009, 06:56 PM
Oh ok...I thought with Gundy retiring they would consider switching defensive schemes or change to a 3-4 sense that seems to be the craze nowadays.

When Jim Caldwell was introduced as the new head coach he said that they would not be changing schemes on offense or defense.

Shaft75
03-17-2009, 10:25 PM
Just some FYI - the doctor thinks my fathers brain tumor is benign. He still has to have surgery, but still it's good news!

Thanks for your prayers and support.

BigBull17
03-17-2009, 10:48 PM
Just some FYI - the doctor thinks my fathers brain tumor is benign. He still has to have surgery, but still it's good news!

Thanks for your prayers and support.

I'm glad to hear he's ok.

jgl35
03-17-2009, 10:48 PM
Excellent news. Hope things go well.

The Pencil Neck
03-17-2009, 10:51 PM
Just some FYI - the doctor thinks my fathers brain tumor is benign. He still has to have surgery, but still it's good news!

Thanks for your prayers and support.

Excellent news.

Texan4Ever
03-17-2009, 11:01 PM
Just some FYI - the doctor thinks my fathers brain tumor is benign. He still has to have surgery, but still it's good news!

Thanks for your prayers and support.



Excellent, now hopefully the tumor can be removed and your father can get back on his feet! :smiliedance:

Blake
03-17-2009, 11:05 PM
Just some FYI - the doctor thinks my fathers brain tumor is benign. He still has to have surgery, but still it's good news!

Thanks for your prayers and support.

Sorry to hear about your dad Shaft but this is great news!

Hang in there man.

Thanks to everyone who kept this thing rolling while I was out of town. We are 3 picks away from completing round 3. Here is the updated list. LINK. (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59395)

Shaft75
03-17-2009, 11:07 PM
Excellent, now hopefully the tumor can be removed and your father can get back on his feet! :smiliedance:

We meet with the neurosurgeon on Monday. He is going to get an angiogram so they will be sure there won't be any complications. Supposedly they go up an arterie to get to the tumor. Scary stuff to me.

TimeKiller
03-18-2009, 07:39 AM
Sorry for the delay.

The Tennessee Sister-Boinkers select:

WR Ramses Barden, Cal Poly 6-6, 225, 4.61

Not a fast guy but lots of production to go with that great size at Wideout. Probably starts from day 1.

Ole Miss Texan
03-18-2009, 10:29 AM
Sorry for the delay.

The Tennessee Sister-Boinkers select:

WR Ramses Barden, Cal Poly 6-6, 225, 4.61

Not a fast guy but lots of production to go with that great size at Wideout. Probably starts from day 1.

Nice, I was going to suggest a WR with this pick. Derrick Williams from Penn St. or Ramses Barden from Cal Poly. Incredible!

Arizona up next, then me. I've got my pick ready so we're close to having 3 rounds complete!

Texan4Ever
03-18-2009, 10:58 AM
We meet with the neurosurgeon on Monday. He is going to get an angiogram so they will be sure there won't be any complications. Supposedly they go up an arterie to get to the tumor. Scary stuff to me.


Well if the treatment/surgery is in the Houston medical center area, they have some of the best neurosurgeons in the nation so your father is in good hands! Best of luck to him...

BigBull17
03-18-2009, 10:59 AM
The Arizona Cardinals select: Shone Green, RB Iowa State.

BigBull17
03-18-2009, 11:05 AM
The Arizona Cardinals select: Shone Green, RB Iowa.

Ole Miss Texan
03-18-2009, 11:39 AM
The Arizona Cardinals select: Shone Green, RB Iowa.
I was wondering when these next slew of RBs were going to start going. Looks like the Texans may have a shot at a good player in the 4th. Hightower/Green would be a good duo for the future.

Ole Miss Texan
03-18-2009, 11:45 AM
The Pittsburgh Steelers select Billy Costigan from the Departed... oops

The Pittsburgh Steelers select Gerald Cadogan, OT, Penn St.

Steelers get an offensive linemen with a lot of upside. Potentially could take over at LT in the future but will most likely get some time early as a RT or possibly even a G. While Duke Robinson is a popular pick for the Steelers at 32, I'm still not sure about it... i think it was a reach. I think Duke will need some time to groom but could develop into a great guard for them. In anycase, Steelers need OL help and they get their possible LG and RG/RT of the future in this draft with Robinson and Codogan. Gilbert fills a need along their DL and look for Pittsburgh to start addressing the void that was left in the secondary when McFadden departed town.

This concludes round 3.

The Pencil Neck
03-18-2009, 01:43 PM
The Pittsburgh Steelers select Billy Costigan from the Departed... oops

The Pittsburgh Steelers select Gerald Cadogan, OT, Penn St.

Steelers get an offensive linemen with a lot of upside. Potentially could take over at LT in the future but will most likely get some time early as a RT or possibly even a G. While Duke Robinson is a popular pick for the Steelers at 32, I'm still not sure about it... i think it was a reach. I think Duke will need some time to groom but could develop into a great guard for them. In anycase, Steelers need OL help and they get their possible LG and RG/RT of the future in this draft with Robinson and Codogan. Gilbert fills a need along their DL and look for Pittsburgh to start addressing the void that was left in the secondary when McFadden departed town.

This concludes round 3.


That's a good value pick.

The Pencil Neck
03-18-2009, 01:43 PM
So, guys, what's the plan for Round 4?

Ole Miss Texan
03-18-2009, 02:29 PM
So, guys, what's the plan for Round 4?

Let's get the party started. :drunk:

Honoring Earl 34
03-18-2009, 03:01 PM
The Cowboys of Dallas via the Lions of Detroit select Scott McKillop ILB from Pitt . Why ... cause he's easily the highest rated player on my board .

mussop
03-18-2009, 03:36 PM
Ill be back in 3 hours to see if Cinci is up.

Blake
03-18-2009, 03:55 PM
Closing this thread. Starting a round 4+ for anyone interested.