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El Tejano
03-04-2009, 10:55 AM
We've been kind of quiet for a couple of days now. Anyone hear about anybody coming to visit us? There are a couple of RBs that I wouldn't mind seeing here.

Deshaun Foster
Nick Goins
Michael Pittman
Cecil Sapp - I wouldn't mind resigning that guy.

And two more who are pretty small but could be good for us:
Dominic Rhodes
Aaron Stecker - this guy runs like he's a big dude and is good inside the 20s.

El Tejano
03-04-2009, 11:37 AM
No comments?

El Tejano
03-04-2009, 11:50 AM
Noone has heard anything about a visit?

Mike Kerns
03-04-2009, 11:51 AM
Ah, you know whoever used to play in Denver or gets cut from Denver will get a shot here...

DiehardChris
03-04-2009, 12:05 PM
We've been kind of quiet for a couple of days now. Anyone hear about anybody coming to visit us? There are a couple of RBs that I wouldn't mind seeing here.

Deshaun Foster
Nick Goins
Michael Pittman
Cecil Sapp - I wouldn't mind resigning that guy.

And two more who are pretty small but could be good for us:
Dominic Rhodes
Aaron Stecker - this guy runs like he's a big dude and is good inside the 20s.

I haven't seen or heard anything new. I agree with you on Cecil Sapp. I'd like to see him come back if the price is right. We need a good solid veteran presence in the backfield since it looks like our top two guys are going to be very young guys in Slaton and a rookie.

Not in to any of the other RBs you listed, except Pittman. He's old and everything - but the truth is, he was a GREAT short-yardage back in Denver last year before he got hurt.

With Slaton as the main guy, our rookie-to-be as the #2 guy, and Pittman as the short-yardage specialist - I think we'd be pretty solid.

I asked LZ about Pittman last week, and he said Pittman probably has too many character problems of the past for the Texans to look at him, so he might be out of the running... but then again, the team showed they were a little more flexible than we thought when they courted Benson.

ArlingtonTexan
03-04-2009, 12:11 PM
There is usually a thread (if not multiple) with 15-20 minutes after a rumor or hard news of FAs appear anywhere online.

DiehardChris
03-04-2009, 12:12 PM
There is usually a thread (if not multiple) with 15-20 minutes after a rumor or hard news of FAs appear anywhere online.

Yeah, and if we get bored enough - people will just make up their own rumor. LOL

False Start
03-04-2009, 12:16 PM
Yeah, and if we get bored enough - people will just make up their own rumor. LOL

Yeah, I hear the Texans are trying to trade for Ed Reed..... :heh:

HOU-TEX
03-04-2009, 12:31 PM
This just in...Texans make offer to Frank the Tank. They think he can fill the need of a deep threat and can run the streak route with perfection.

3rdcoastcards
03-04-2009, 03:32 PM
Reuben Droughns? Seems he fits a lot of the criteria we are looking for. Not a huge fan...but if we can get him in here cheap...then i guess its worth it.

badboy
03-04-2009, 04:02 PM
I am ok with no additional FA signings (other than our own). We should fill all our needs except a priority need of stopping the run. I do not think that will be addressed. Slaton ran well without any guidance imo from a vet RB. I think the coaches do more for a young player a vet usually.

El Tejano
03-04-2009, 04:02 PM
Well I know people are going to hate hearing me say this but we could wait to see what kind of RBs fall off the Denver Broncos. They have like 6 pretty good backs - Buckhalter, Harrington, Jordan, S. Young, and like two 2nd year guys. Something serviceable has to fall from that.

barrett
03-04-2009, 05:10 PM
I haven't seen or heard anything new. I agree with you on Cecil Sapp. I'd like to see him come back if the price is right. We need a good solid veteran presence in the backfield since it looks like our top two guys are going to be very young guys in Slaton and a rookie.



A couple of things to think about... In the past Kubiak has liked to have that third guy be a guy that can play FB or RB so that we suit backs every week. So either the rookie will be a guy they think can do both or the 3rd option will be. This is more likely. That's what Sapp brought to the table. When you're thinking of veteran RB's it's probably smart to factor that into weather or not the Texans would be interested.



I asked LZ about Pittman last week, and he said Pittman probably has too many character problems of the past for the Texans to look at him, so he might be out of the running... but then again, the team showed they were a little more flexible than we thought when they courted Benson.

I think the reason that they entertained Benson was because he was an ideal fit from a football perspective. I don't think their stance has changed. I think they considered it after he was productive and stayed out of trouble. I assume they offered him something near his veteran minimum in case his heart was in it. I think that's how they felt like he'd be worth it. If he wanted it bad enough to take less money. I think that would have suggested to them that he was ready to work hard. But the only reason they even entertained the idea is because he was an ideal fit from a football perspective.

mussop
03-04-2009, 05:44 PM
Ah, you know whoever used to play in Denver or gets cut from Denver will get a shot here...

I would love to see them cut Peyton Hillis. Hopefully he wont fit in with what they are trying to do there. I still cant believe we passed on him late in the draft last year.

mattieuk
03-04-2009, 06:37 PM
Yeah, I hear the Texans are trying to trade for Ed Reed..... :heh:

Heard the same thing as well man! Apparently on the internet somewhere my cousin saw a quote from the Ravens front office saying they wanted at least a first round pick, AJ and Toro as a new mascot.

:thinking:

JWarren14
03-04-2009, 07:01 PM
Think Leigh Bodden will cost too much? Had a visit with NE and left without an offer. He is a pretty good corner. Not sure we need to bring in another FA CB after Reeves last year, but would be a good addition IMO.

False Start
03-04-2009, 08:32 PM
Heard the same thing as well man! Apparently on the internet somewhere my cousin saw a quote from the Ravens front office saying they wanted at least a first round pick, AJ and Toro as a new mascot.

:thinking:


Lets give 'em JJ, Faggins, and Junction Jack instead.

Maddict5
03-05-2009, 12:50 PM
sean jones is still out there surprisingly

El Tejano
03-05-2009, 01:51 PM
sean jones is still out there surprisingly

I know. You would think this guy would be brought in. Then again, maybe he doesn't want to come here.

Errant Hothy
03-05-2009, 01:58 PM
sean jones is still out there surprisingly

Sean Jones wants to start, and it's becoming fairly obvious that our starting safeties will be Wilson and Barber.

That's why Sean hasn't nor will he be brought in.

dalemurphy
03-05-2009, 02:00 PM
Sean Jones wants to start, and it's becoming fairly obvious that our starting safeties will be Wilson and Barber.

That's why Sean hasn't nor will he be brought in.

If true, that's pretty silly on our part. Surely, we should be able to offer him a fair competition against a rookie with almost no experience.

Errant Hothy
03-05-2009, 02:09 PM
If true, that's pretty silly on our part. Surely, we should be able to offer him a fair competition against a rookie with almost no experience.

Why would he go somewhere to compete, when he could go somewhere and be named the starter?

Kubiak is saying the sames things about Barber that he did about Diles.

Big Poundcake
03-05-2009, 03:11 PM
Sean Jones is definitely worth trying to get to visit the Texans. He should start wherever he goes as well. He is very good and worth more than just a look from the Texans.


You never know.... he could be a big part of a winning team and be a big time difference maker in whatever team that he signs with. That being said, I doubt that the Texans bring him in, but I hink that they should. He is really good.

ArlingtonTexan
03-05-2009, 03:24 PM
Even though I think Sean Jones is a decent starting SS in the NFL, I would concenred that no one has shown interest. This means he is not viewed as highly I as think he should be or he representation wants more money than he is worth. Intterested to see how this one plays out.

Specnatz
03-05-2009, 03:31 PM
Even though I think Sean Jones is a decent starting SS in the NFL, I would concenred that no one has shown interest. This means he is not viewed as highly I as think he should be or he representation wants more money than he is worth. Intterested to see how this one plays out.

34 Barber, Dominique * S 6-0 218 Minnesota 1st
31 Harrison, Brandon S 6-2 215 Stanford 2nd

What gets me is that we only have two other safeties on the team besides Eugene Wilson.

ArlingtonTexan
03-05-2009, 03:42 PM
34 Barber, Dominique * S 6-0 218 Minnesota 1st
31 Harrison, Brandon S 6-2 215 Stanford 2nd

What gets me is that we only have two other safeties on the team besides Eugene Wilson.

i was really talking from the broader NFL as I don't recall any visits, but in regards to the Texans, they have some plan going so I pretty certain we will some action at the position, even if it is a couple :yawn: types in FA.

hadaad
03-05-2009, 04:48 PM
34 Barber, Dominique * S 6-0 218 Minnesota 1st
31 Harrison, Brandon S 6-2 215 Stanford 2nd

What gets me is that we only have two other safeties on the team besides Eugene Wilson.

Bring back Glenn Earl!

ArlingtonTexan
03-05-2009, 06:02 PM
i was really talking from the broader NFL as I don't recall any visits, but in regards to the Texans, they have some plan going so I pretty certain we will some action at the position, even if it is a couple :yawn: types in FA.

well, so much for not taking visits

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/03/jones-visiting-the-birds/

El Tejano
03-06-2009, 08:33 AM
You know he wants to go to Philly.

mussop
03-06-2009, 10:30 AM
You know he wants to go to Philly.

I dont care3 if we signed Wilson. We should be all over this guy.

Errant Hothy
03-06-2009, 11:13 AM
I dont care3 if we signed Wilson. We should be all over this guy.

What does Wilson, a FS, have to do with Sean Jones, a SS?

Goldensilence
03-06-2009, 11:42 AM
well, so much for not taking visits

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/03/jones-visiting-the-birds/

This is probably why Philly felt ok with letting Dawkins walk...still don't think Jones is better but it could be a good long term decision.

badboy
03-06-2009, 11:58 AM
[QUOTE=Hoth-Boy;1134885]What does Wilson, a FS, have to do with Sean Jones, a SS?[/QUOTE In the defensive schemes used under Kubes, safeties are interchangeable. That may change this season but we do not have a true FS. Our safeties are more banger types. It will be interesting to see this plays out and I am puzzled that no one had questioned Smith or Kubes since undergoing the D coaching changes. I have a true safety on my board with Rashad Johnson. If team feels that Reeves and Molden who have speed to run with WR & we know Dunta is pretty much able to keep up, we may keep the type of DB defense going that we have had.

BigBull17
03-06-2009, 12:14 PM
[QUOTE=Hoth-Boy;1134885]What does Wilson, a FS, have to do with Sean Jones, a SS?[/QUOTE In the defensive schemes used under Kubes, safeties are interchangeable. That may change this season but we do not have a true FS. Our safeties are more banger types. It will be interesting to see this plays out and I am puzzled that no one had questioned Smith or Kubes since undergoing the D coaching changes. I have a true safety on my board with Rashad Johnson. If team feels that Reeves and Molden who have speed to run with WR & we know Dunta is pretty much able to keep up, we may keep the type of DB defense going that we have had.

That was Richard Smith's terrific idea:gun:... I think, no hope, it changes this year and we have a defined FS and SS.

badboy
03-06-2009, 12:24 PM
[QUOTE=badboy;1134924]

That was Richard Smith's terrific idea:gun:... I think, no hope, it changes this year and we have a defined FS and SS.You & me brother !. Having said that it will be sorta like deciding to go to 3-4, do we have players to do that (safeties)? We have banger who can tackle a TE or tackle a Rb occasionally but not to run with anyone. That is why I have Johnson in draft. Hopefully, we will move another step away from Richard's Smith's D.

Norg
03-06-2009, 01:51 PM
i just read on a blog someone said ESPN just said TO just signed a deal with the TEXANS !!! this kinda shocked me it cant be true

threetoedpete
03-06-2009, 02:27 PM
[QUOTE=badboy;1134924]

That was Richard Smith's terrific idea:gun:... I think, no hope, it changes this year and we have a defined FS and SS.

If it was Richard's Idea....with Gibbs and Rhodes as the new he bulls for the DBs....why wouldn't it change ?

Rick Smith has drafted a certain way every year for three years....now tell me there's a true FS prospect at the 47....or the 79...we'll find out pretty quickly exactly who's safety scheme will be following. From My tree....with Bush's new scheme...and the DL guru from Buffalo and the Antoino Smith signing....they shouldn't need a safety that high. Unless of course both guys they have ear marked for the slots....are now considered complete and utter hopeless busts. And I've heard no one say that yet. In fact just the opposite.

In the first place....they're never going to admit that. And in the second....there is only on captain on this boat. Rick Smith, so far, has done what he can to give him what he wants.

And further if it was a higher priority now....why not just drop back and bang it with the best prospect you can lay your hands on ? Wouldn't that be Louis Delmas ?

I think it's just a philosophy. They aren't going to over pay for RBs. And they aren't going to over pay for safety's. We'll see when they pull one off the board in the first three rounds.

HOU-TEX
03-06-2009, 02:37 PM
i just read on a blog someone said ESPN just said TO just signed a deal with the TEXANS !!! this kinda shocked me it cant be true

*Sigh* Norg's smokin dope again

threetoedpete
03-06-2009, 02:51 PM
i just read on a blog someone said ESPN just said TO just signed a deal with the TEXANS !!! this kinda shocked me it cant be true

Link it lol. Where's that band picture ? They've gone out of their way for four years not to take heart aches....and now they are going to nuke the locker room and take the worst of the bunch ?

Someone is pulling your chain.

El Tejano
03-06-2009, 03:39 PM
i just read on a blog someone said ESPN just said TO just signed a deal with the TEXANS !!! this kinda shocked me it cant be true

They could've meant Tennessee. He was there today.

threetoedpete
03-06-2009, 03:57 PM
34 Barber, Dominique * S 6-0 218 Minnesota 1st
31 Harrison, Brandon S 6-2 215 Stanford 2nd

What gets me is that we only have two other safeties on the team besides Eugene Wilson.

Which would suggest, yes they are going to draft one. The only questions are when and who. And we carry big corners.


Fred Bennit 6' 1" 197

Moden 6' 1" 197

Reves 5 10" 192.

A.J. Davis 5' 10" 192.

TexanFan881
03-06-2009, 04:29 PM
the eagles just signed sean jones, so much for him

dalemurphy
03-07-2009, 12:07 AM
I predict that we are going to make a significant run at Tomlinson if he becomes a FA. I don't really have much to base it on other than our willingness to sit back without a relible veteran Rb. Also, I got a sense from the club that they had some pretty big plans going into the FA period. If he gets cut this week, I think that's something to watch for. I'd give him 3yrs and 18 million with a $9 mil signing bonus.

TheRealJoker
03-07-2009, 12:20 AM
I predict that we are going to make a significant run at Tomlinson if he becomes a FA. I don't really have much to base it on other than our willingness to sit back without a relible veteran Rb. Also, I got a sense from the club that they had some pretty big plans going into the FA period. If he gets cut this week, I think that's something to watch for. I'd give him 3yrs and 18 million with a $9 mil signing bonus.

You'd pay a premium for an upgraded Ahman Green who would likely see the field just as much?

There's not enough tread left on those tires to warrant that kind of coin imo. He's one of the best ever, but his shelf life is just about over.

InterestedJeff
03-07-2009, 03:18 AM
what pick would it take to get more cowbell?

Errant Hothy
03-07-2009, 09:19 AM
the eagles just signed sean jones, so much for him

He only signed a 1 year deal though. Something is certainly going on behind hte scenes with Mr. Jones.

dalemurphy
03-07-2009, 09:39 AM
You'd pay a premium for an upgraded Ahman Green who would likely see the field just as much?

There's not enough tread left on those tires to warrant that kind of coin imo. He's one of the best ever, but his shelf life is just about over.

He's a little younger and has never missed a game. While I agree that he's not going to be the same player, I'll take the player he was last season while he battled through the injuries. But, I agree, that it's a gamble and it's one we've lost in the past.

dalemurphy
03-07-2009, 09:41 AM
He only signed a 1 year deal though. Something is certainly going on behind hte scenes with Mr. Jones.

Yeah, really weird when guys like Michael Clayton are getting $11 million signing bonuses and then you see a very good player in his prime get no attention for a week and then end up with a one year deal. I'm guessing it's some serious medical issues... That being said, he finished the season on the field last year, I think.

ObsiWan
03-07-2009, 10:13 AM
Originally Posted by Norg http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1135092#post1135092)
i just read on a blog someone said ESPN just said TO just signed a deal with the TEXANS !!! this kinda shocked me it cant be true
They could've meant Tennessee. He was there today.

ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3957410)has nothing about this. You know they'd be all over it if their favorite drama queen found a new job after just a week.

Errant Hothy
03-07-2009, 10:25 AM
Yeah, really weird when guys like Michael Clayton are getting $11 million signing bonuses and then you see a very good player in his prime get no attention for a week and then end up with a one year deal. I'm guessing it's some serious medical issues... That being said, he finished the season on the field last year, I think.

He missed 5 weeks last year (4 games and the bye) due to arthroscopic knee surgery, but he appeared to come back from it just fine; he recorded 50 tackles, 4 PDs and 4 INTs after he returned from the surgery. There are a couple of articles saying that Jones was displeased with Cernell's desicion to rotate 3 players at safety, and that he mouthed off a little about it. But nothing serious to lead to him having the FA period that he did.

Edit: He also missed is first season after being drafted due to a knee injury. I don't know if it's the same knee as the one that he had surgery on last year, but I would assume so and I would assume this is why he didn't see that much interest in free agency. Another note, Philly told him he would have to beat out Demps for the starting FS spot.

Source:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3958506

False Start
03-07-2009, 10:56 AM
I predict that we are going to make a significant run at Tomlinson if he becomes a FA. I don't really have much to base it on other than our willingness to sit back without a relible veteran Rb. Also, I got a sense from the club that they had some pretty big plans going into the FA period. If he gets cut this week, I think that's something to watch for. I'd give him 3yrs and 18 million with a $9 mil signing bonus.

I was thinking the same thing last night. He may not be the same player he used to be, but I would rather have a watered down version of LT than an unproven player that hasn't done anything in the league. As far as the contract, I think it would have to be a very incentive-laden deal seeing how hes coming off some injury plagued seasons.

mexican_texan
03-07-2009, 11:29 AM
He only signed a 1 year deal though. Something is certainly going on behind hte scenes with Mr. Jones.
I take it the market for his services didn't satisfy him. He'll probably play his ass off to get a long term deal next offseason. He has a better chance of getting his name out there with the Eagles than with the Browns.

mexican_texan
03-07-2009, 11:47 AM
I was thinking the same thing last night. He may not be the same player he used to be, but I would rather have a watered down version of LT than an unproven player that hasn't done anything in the league. As far as the contract, I think it would have to be a very incentive-laden deal seeing how hes coming off some injury plagued seasons.
You might wanna change Butthead to 81 (see av.)

DiehardChris
03-11-2009, 02:59 AM
Packers DE Mike Montgomery visited Monday (http://www.houstondiehards.com/?p=4264).

No contract was offered, apparently.

Jackie Chiles
03-11-2009, 03:16 AM
Packers DE Mike Montgomery visited Monday (http://www.houstondiehards.com/?p=4264).

No contract was offered, apparently.

Interesting. Also the first I heard about Cochran, that is a bit of a surprise.

DiehardChris
03-11-2009, 03:19 AM
Interesting. Also the first I heard about Cochran, that is a bit of a surprise.

Yeah, kudos to AJ for digging up that Cochran info. It seems very strange to me. Like I said on my site, seems like something behind the scenes is going on there... I thought maybe they just wanted to move on because of his injury issues - but Montgomery has had a lot of injury problems too.

/shrug

Specnatz
03-11-2009, 03:45 AM
Interesting. Also the first I heard about Cochran, that is a bit of a surprise.

Yeah, kudos to AJ for digging up that Cochran info. It seems very strange to me. Like I said on my site, seems like something behind the scenes is going on there... I thought maybe they just wanted to move on because of his injury issues - but Montgomery has had a lot of injury problems too.

/shrug

This may open up speculation of a Kruger/Ayers in second or a Sidbury move in 3rd or 4th round.