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Mr teX
02-26-2009, 02:41 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9268324/Official:-Vick-OK'd-for-home-confinement-release?MSNHPHMA

TimeKiller
02-26-2009, 02:53 PM
Rough spot to be in, I certainly wouldn't want to be in his shoes.

I hope that PETA either lets him be or gets a new flag to fly. Dispicable acts are one thing, being slightly left of crazy is another.

4Texans
02-26-2009, 03:39 PM
Looks like he will have served about 18 months of his 23 month sentence before he is released to a halfway House or his house. I guess that's about par for the course.........

It's probably going to be a zoo with PETA and all the other protestors after him.....

Drew_Smoke
02-26-2009, 03:44 PM
PETA...they need some white powder sent in the mail.

Vick should never have been locked up. The Gov needs $$$ not inmates.

Vick-locked up for the deaths of pit bulls.

The little girl of Judge Shelton KILLS her boyfriend, then sues the person she slammed into. She's off to college. Racism? Maybe not. Frickin' sorry??? Yep.

Glad he's getting out.

Specnatz
02-26-2009, 03:47 PM
PETA...they need some white powder sent in the mail.

Vick should never have been locked up. The Gov needs $$$ not inmates.

Vick-locked up for the deaths of pit bulls.

The little girl of Judge Shelton KILLS her boyfriend, then sues the person she slammed into. She's off to college. Racism? Maybe not. Frickin' sorry??? Yep.

Glad he's getting out.

So your using one injustice to advocate the committing of another crime? Anarchy anyone?

nunusguy
02-26-2009, 03:50 PM
Rough spot to be in, I certainly wouldn't want to be in his shoes.

I hope that PETA either lets him be or gets a new flag to fly. Dispicable acts are one thing, being slightly left of crazy is another.

Absolutely ! And I hope the league gives him another chance, he deserves it.

HOU-TEX
02-26-2009, 03:51 PM
PETA...they need some white powder sent in the mail.

Vick should never have been locked up. The Gov needs $$$ not inmates.

Vick-locked up for the deaths of pit bulls.

The little girl of Judge Shelton KILLS her boyfriend, then sues the person she slammed into. She's off to college. Racism? Maybe not. Frickin' sorry??? Yep.

Glad he's getting out.

Good Lord! Gee, it's great to see Vick's back in the news. He's a friggin asshat, dude!

scourge
02-26-2009, 04:11 PM
PETA...they need some white powder sent in the mail.

Vick should never have been locked up. The Gov needs $$$ not inmates.

Vick-locked up for the deaths of pit bulls.

The little girl of Judge Shelton KILLS her boyfriend, then sues the person she slammed into. She's off to college. Racism? Maybe not. Frickin' sorry??? Yep.

Glad he's getting out.


PETA is lame. I can't stand them.

But Vick deserved everything he got and then some. Him being caned before sent home would satisfy me.

What does the girl have to do with Vick's dumb ass? Was what she did, or the outcome right? No. But what you are saying is like saying it's not fair that Nick Bollea went to jail, but OJ got away with murder.

One has nothing to do with the other.

Koolaid Time
02-26-2009, 04:33 PM
Rough spot to be in, I certainly wouldn't want to be in his shoes.

I hope that PETA either lets him be or gets a new flag to fly. Dispicable acts are one thing, being slightly left of crazy is another.

Yea, he is "home" but he has his little electonic ankle monitor on, can't leave without express permission of the probation officer, can't drink, can't associate with the likes of his buddies "T" and "P-Funk", he is drug tested, etc.

If he screws up, he goes back to Club Fed to serve the balance.

Lots of temptation, and I don't think Vick can resist the demons.

I bet he screws up within 3 weeks.

PapaL
02-26-2009, 04:38 PM
I think he'll be ok.

Did a crime, did his time - time to let him be.

Texan_Bill
02-26-2009, 04:41 PM
I think he'll be ok.

Did a crime, did his time - time to let him be.

As hard as it is to admit this, I agree....


But HOU-TEX is right, he's still a friggin' asshat.

Hervoyel
02-26-2009, 04:44 PM
PETA...they need some white powder sent in the mail.

Vick should never have been locked up. The Gov needs $$$ not inmates.

Vick-locked up for the deaths of pit bulls.

The little girl of Judge Shelton KILLS her boyfriend, then sues the person she slammed into. She's off to college. Racism? Maybe not. Frickin' sorry??? Yep.

Glad he's getting out.

Sorry, can't agree with you on this. Vick needed to see the inside of a slam and now that he's served his sentence he needs to be given a chance to resume his life to whatever degree he is capable. I firmly believe in the idea that a person can pay his debt to society and then should be allowed to move on.

But I also take animal cruelty seriously.

Joe Texan
02-26-2009, 04:46 PM
Someone should send him a pitbull for a welcoming home gift.

Texan Asylum
02-26-2009, 04:53 PM
Schaub needs a backup QB. :stirpot:

Errant Hothy
02-26-2009, 04:54 PM
Schaub needs a backup QB. :stirpot:

Yeah, but so do the Cowboys (the cut B. Johnson this afternoon)

Texan Asylum
02-26-2009, 04:56 PM
Yeah, but so do the Cowboys (the cut B. Johnson this afternoon)

Schaub use to be Vicks'...:shades: :)

DBCooper
02-26-2009, 04:58 PM
..............asshat.

Errant Hothy
02-26-2009, 04:58 PM
Schaub use to be Vicks'...:shades:

NO! Really?

I'm in the DFW area and would absolutly relish listening to sports radio if teh Cowboys signed Vick.

Vick + TO = unlimited entertainment for non-Cowboys fans.

TimeKiller
02-26-2009, 05:29 PM
Someone should send him a pitbull for a welcoming home gift.

Someone should send every member of PETA pitbulls and see how much they care about those mean-ass dogs when they are chomping on everything. They've been following this dude around with pitchforks and torches for too long.

I've got about as much respect for PETA as I have for Al Sharpton.

Porky
02-26-2009, 05:46 PM
I don't care much for PETA but they have about 10 million times more respect from me than Vick does. That guy needs to go rot in hell.

SheTexan
02-26-2009, 06:00 PM
I hope PETA DOGS him until the day he dies!!! A sorry piece of human filth.

Joe Texan
02-26-2009, 06:07 PM
So I am thinking that he would not fit in our scheme huh Grandma

Thorn
02-26-2009, 06:21 PM
I'll bet a paycheck on Vick NOT being rehabilitated in any way shape or form, and ends up in trouble again.

Specnatz
02-26-2009, 06:31 PM
Sorry, can't agree with you on this. Vick needed to see the inside of a slam and now that he's served his sentence he needs to be given a chance to resume his life to whatever degree he is capable. I firmly believe in the idea that a person can pay his debt to society and then should be allowed to move on.

But I also take animal cruelty seriously.

This only applies to people with money or Athletes. Average guy would apply for a job and would be denied because of the violent nature of the crime. He could not even get a job as a trash collector because of the background check. McDonalds? No problem.

Drew_Smoke
02-26-2009, 08:54 PM
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What does the girl have to do with Vick's dumb ass? Was what she did, or the outcome right? No. But what you are saying is like saying it's not fair that Nick Bollea went to jail, but OJ got away with murder.



These stories were going on at the same time.

My point is...slowly as I can....Kill a dog...get hard time...kill a person and its Party On, Garth.

We would all be better served if he just paid big $$.

Same with Clemens and Bonds.

Koolaid Time
02-26-2009, 10:02 PM
Even if the Commissioner reinstates Vick, there is still that insanely expensive contract he has with the Falcons that prevents him from being signed.

What team in the world would pick that up?

Vick can't and won't renegotiate his contract to reduce it to the point a team will pick him up for the NFL "minimum" because he is still in Bankruptcy, and I'm sure his Plan of Reorganization calls for a high salary-- far in excess of the minimum--to fund his Plan.

He is in an 11, because he is over the limit for Chapter 13. According to Vick's Schedules, he has assets of $16 million and liaiblities of $20 million.

Hooston Texan
02-26-2009, 11:20 PM
As a UVA guy, I've hated Vick for about a decade now, probably longer than anyone else here. But, by July, he'll have done his time on this one. If Goodell wants to give him another year off, I won't have a problem with it, but I also won't have a problem with him being reinstated for the 2009 season. Vick might be best served with an intermediate suspension (he can practice but not play) so he can maybe, for the first time in his life, actually learn his position.

Word around the campfires in Virginia is that Vick is actually not a bad guy (contrast to his younger brother), but he is easily influenced by the wrong people. If this experience finally brings about Vick severing ties with his dead-end Newport News buddies, he will be immensely better off for it.

Those are the two kindest paragraphs I've ever written about Vick in my lifetime. By miles and miles. Still, I don't want him here. Having Vick back up Schaub makes about as much sense as having Schaub playing behind Vick. You couldn't find two more different QBs in all the league than those two. You would have to run a completely different offense depending on who's in the game. At least with the Rosencopter, the gameplan could remain roughly the same.

BOTTOM LINE: I sincerely hope Vick gets his life together from here forward. I just don't want that to take place with the Texans.

SheTexan
02-27-2009, 08:28 AM
So I am thinking that he would not fit in our scheme huh Grandma

It would break my heart to become an EX Texan fan IF we were stupid enough to pick him up, even for minimum. I'm not worried though. He does NOT fit the Bob McNair profile of having DECENT human beings playing on his football team.

Wolf
03-25-2009, 12:12 PM
RICHMOND, Va. – Suspended NFL star Michael Vick has left a federal lockup in Kansas, apparently bound for Virginia for a bankruptcy hearing next week.

The U.S. Bureau of Prisons Web site shows that Vick is no longer at the federal penitentiary in Leavenworth, Kan. It lists his status as "in transit."

It's not clear when he left, or where he is right now. But two weeks ago, a bankruptcy judge in Newport News, Va. ordered the former Atlanta Falcons quarterback to testify at an April 2nd hearing on his Chapter 11 reorganization plan.

Judge Frank Santoro also ordered Vick to pay the costs of traveling to Virginia for the hearing.

Vick is serving 23 months for a dogfighting conspiracy. He's eligible to move into home confinement on May 21st and is scheduled to be released July 20th.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090325/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_vick_bankruptcy

Wolf
03-26-2009, 03:48 PM
RICHMOND, Va. (AP)—The U.S. Department of Labor filed complaints Wednesday accusing suspended NFL star Michael Vick of illegally spending about $1.3 million in pension plan funds for his own benefit, including paying restitution ordered in his dogfighting conspiracy case.

The department filed the complaints in federal district and bankruptcy courts the same day Vick left a federal lockup in Kansas, apparently bound for Virginia to appear at a bankruptcy hearing next week. Vick was at the Federal Transfer City in Oklahoma City late Wednesday afternoon.

Mark Lichtenstein, one of Vick’s bankruptcy attorneys, declined to comment on both the Labor Department allegations and the details of Vick’s apparent temporary move to Virginia for the April 2 hearing.

The Labor Department said Vick made a series of prohibited transfers from a pension plan sponsored by MV7, a celebrity marketing company owned by the former Atlanta Falcons quarterback. The department alleges that Vick violated his duties as trustee of a pension plan that covered nine current or former MV7 employees.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-vickbankruptcy&prov=ap&type=lgns

CloakNNNdagger
03-26-2009, 08:41 PM
I'm sick of Vick. Remorse???? This far out, that would be a joke. I hope that Goodell is just outwardly "playing the game," a game that Vick has played all along, and continues to play, and will always play. He has had plenty of time to voluntarily show remorse by action. The only remorse he has shown is that of being caught. I suspect that shortly after release, he will be shedding his life of fighting dogs, for "kindly" raising "good eaten" dogs for Chinese export.....and claim that it's solely for decreasing the trade deficit.

Goodell Reiterates That Vick Must Show Remorse (http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/)
Posted by Mike Florio on March 26, 2009, 5:03 p.m.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell previously has said that the ability of Falcons quarterback Mike Vick to return to the league will be driven by the extent to which he shows remorse for his crimes.

Goodell echoed that sentiment on Wednesday.

“I think it’s clear he’s paid a price,” Goodell said, “but to a large extent he’s going to have to demonstrate to the larger community — not just to the NFL community and to me — that he has remorse for what he did and that he recognizes mistakes that he made.

“Everyone makes mistakes, but he has to show that genuine remorse in his ability to be a positive influence to correct the things that he did wrong publicly,” he added, according to the report.

Though it’s not a new message, Goodell possibly is intending it for only one specific member of the audience: Mike Vick.

To date, Vick has done little if anything to express remorse beyond the confines of a legal system that requires a person who pleads guilty to a crime to take responsibility for his actions. In our view, Vick’s protracted silence will be a factor in Goodell’s assessment of Vick’s overall credibility, especially if Vick’s formal request for reinstatement to the league triggers a flood of calculated mea culpas and crocodile tears.

One nagging reality for us is that Vick refused to commit to participating in a public safety announcement with PETA unless the organization promised to support his bid for reinstatement.

As we’ve likely said in the past, that’s no remorse. It’s leverage.

As we’ve definitely said in the past, the real challenge for Vick will be to persuade Goodell that Vick will do nothing in the future to tarnish the shield. In our view, Vick faces a tall challenge in this regard. After all, how can Goodell be expected to trust a man who has previously lied to his face on multiple occasions?

Showtime100
03-26-2009, 10:43 PM
This only applies to people with money or Athletes. Average guy would apply for a job and would be denied because of the violent nature of the crime. He could not even get a job as a trash collector because of the background check. McDonalds? No problem.

That's about all I have to say other than Vick is a POS. Always has been and always will be.

CloakNNNdagger
03-29-2009, 11:16 AM
Lovie Smith, a coach for which I have always had great respect, in his "politically correct" statements, has somewhat sickened me. The "editorial" comments following, certainly reflect my feeling, and I would, dare say, the feelings of most. I'm happy that some feel that he has "paid his dues in full." No one should be kept from making a living. But, in this case, not in the NFL.............I'm sure that there are many people out there that would support a business of scooping dog sh*t out of their yards, should he choose to begin one. On second thought, I'd be worried that when I got home, the sh*t would still be there.......and my dog would be gone.:mcnugget:


Lovie Smith Supports Vick’s Return (http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/)


Those Bears fans clamoring for a new quarterback could eventually get one.

But not one that many of them would actually want any more than one Bears fan doesn’t want Josh Bullocks.

Coach Lovie Smith recently said that Vick deserves a clean slate when he gets out of federal custody — and Smith didn’t close the door on adding Vick to the team.

“I would look at Michael like I look at every other prospect that’s available: He goes back into the pool,” Smith told USA Today, via David Haugh of the Chicago Tribune. “That’s what everyone in society does. Mike made a mistake, and he’s paying the price for that mistake. Once you’ve paid your debt to society, you have to say, ‘OK, let’s go on from there.’”

We feel like a broken record (and we’re now old enough to realize that more than half of you likely wonder what being annoyingly repetitive has to do with a new level of statistical achievement in sport), but we need to say it again.

Mike Vick didn’t make a mistake. He engaged in a lifestyle for a period of years and changed that lifestyle only because he got caught.

A “mistake” is adhering so literally to the commands of a navigation system that you drive your car into a lake. Vick lived a life that revolved around an abomination — raising dogs for the purposes of pitting them against each other for sport and for money, and killing the dogs that weren’t deemed fit to die while fighting other dogs.

He felt so strongly about this lifestyle that he bought a house and surrounding land at which the lifestyle unfolded.

Though some readers have suggested that the conduct of men like Leonard Little (who killed a woman while driving drunk) and Donte’ Stallworth (who might have been drunk while driving a car that killed a man) is more despicable than Vick’s behavior, we disagree.

Little (and possibly Stallworth) engaged in criminally reckless actions. They didn’t intend to harm anyone. Little’s crime (and possibly Stallworth’s) was to drink to excess under circumstances that did not prevent him from exercising impaired judgment by getting behind the wheel of a 2,000-pound sculpted block of rolling steel.

Vick intentionally, deliberately, and soberly embarked on a hobby that violated multiple federal and state laws, and that was premised on the cold-blooded torture and killing of dogs.

And then he lied about his conduct, to anyone who wanted to know the truth. He even tried to deceive about the killing of underperforming dogs after pleading guilty, and while strapped to a polygraph.

If it were up to us, Vick wouldn’t play for the Bears or any other NFL team. Ever.

Commissioner Goodell has said that it is a privilege to play in the National Football League. If any man has squandered that privilege, that man is Michael Vick.

swtbound07
03-29-2009, 11:44 AM
I will ignore the Vick aspects of this thread, and simply point all of you who respect or support PETA in any way to

THIS

http://www.peta.org/feat/newkirk/will.html

Mr teX
03-30-2009, 12:20 PM
I will ignore the Vick aspects of this thread, and simply point all of you who respect or support PETA in any way to

THIS

http://www.peta.org/feat/newkirk/will.html

:wacko: