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texanfan2002114
02-25-2009, 03:24 PM
As the 12:01 a.m. Friday deadline for the start of free agency approaches, the Texans are continuing to make moves. They are releasing defensive end Anthony Weaver, offensive tackle Ephraim Salaam and safety Will Demps today.

Weaver is the only player of the three who started last season. He said Monday he found out he would be waived this week. The Texans are looking for a replacement for Weaver at left defensive end in free agency or the draft.

Salaam played behind rookie left tackle Duane Brown last season. Demps began the season as a starter, but lost his job when the Texans moved Eugene Wilson and Nick Ferguson into the lineup.


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6280713.html

nero THE zero
02-25-2009, 03:25 PM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6280713.html
As the 12:01 a.m. Friday deadline for the start of free agency approaches, the Texans are continuing to make moves. They are releasing defensive end Anthony Weaver, offensive tackle Ephraim Salaam and safety Will Demps today.

Weaver is the only player of the three who started last season. He said Monday he found out he would be waived this week. The Texans are looking for a replacement for Weaver at left defensive end in free agency or the draft.

Salaam played behind rookie left tackle Duane Brown last season. Demps began the season as a starter, but lost his job when the Texans moved Eugene Wilson and Nick Ferguson into the lineup.

texanfan2002114
02-25-2009, 03:26 PM
I beat you to it!! :whip:

Mods, merge thread.

HoustonFrog
02-25-2009, 03:26 PM
I'm not sure whether to be surprised by Ephraim or not. I like the guy and with yearly injuries and line experience a premium I thought he'd stay. But he also wasn't too happy last year as a backup.

Polo
02-25-2009, 03:28 PM
Out with the old, in with the new...


I like it.

Cjeremy635
02-25-2009, 03:30 PM
This is a lot more cuts than I thought we would make. I'm fine if we get more experienced players, I'd just hate to fill all of these vacancies with rookies or castoffs.

badboy
02-25-2009, 03:31 PM
I think Salaam was the ultimate pro who stepped up his game, helped his replacement and earned his pay check. I salute him.

Brando
02-25-2009, 03:32 PM
I'm surprised that we cut Salaam but happy as heck that we cut Weaver!

dalemurphy
02-25-2009, 03:32 PM
It's Christmas!!!! Salaam has been cut! finally! Apparently, the organization finally sees my value and is now operating largely based on my reccomendations. Now, as long as Studdard doesn't make the 53 man roster, everyone will know who is really in charge... That would be me, for those who can't follow my twisted logic. What a day this is shaping up to be. God bless Rashod Butler and the Houston Texans!

Jackie Chiles
02-25-2009, 03:32 PM
So I know we save about 800K on the cap this season for dropping Weaver, what do the savings look like for the other two?

Drew_Smoke
02-25-2009, 03:32 PM
I'll be glad when the business end is over and we can get to arguing over the draft.

Polo
02-25-2009, 03:32 PM
This is a lot more cuts than I thought we would make. I'm fine if we get more experienced players, I'd just hate to fill all of these vacancies with rookies or castoffs.

We actually have some guys that should have a fair amount of experience...Butler, Studdard...guys like that should have a better chance of making the team and being an intergal part of things...

dalemurphy
02-25-2009, 03:33 PM
still giggling like a 4 year old girl............................ yippee!

Mr teX
02-25-2009, 03:34 PM
:specnatz:......:chickendance:.......:yahoo:

Smilies can't describe the pride i feel as i watch the names coming out on the cut list. To borrow a poker term, It looks like they are finally going all in trying to get to that next level! I'm ready for next season already.

Cjeremy635
02-25-2009, 03:35 PM
still giggling like a 4 year old girl............................ yippee!

what's new? j/k

Errant Hothy
02-25-2009, 03:39 PM
Man, I hope that the cutting of Demps is a sign that the team confident that they can re-sign Wilson.

HoustonFrog
02-25-2009, 03:40 PM
:specnatz:......:chickendance:.......:yahoo:

Smilies can't describe the pride i feel as i watch the names coming out on the cut list. To borrow a poker term, It looks like they are finally going all in trying to get to that next level! I'm ready for next season already.

I can see this. It is nice when a team decides to stop trotting out the same guys that got them to .500 and to try and turn it up a notch with others. I think there is something to be said for being able to cut guys who you desperately needed on the roster before....kind of like last camp when you actually have tough cuts because there is talent there.

Errant Hothy
02-25-2009, 03:43 PM
We actually have some guys that should have a fair amount of experience...Butler, Studdard...guys like that should have a better chance of making the team and being an intergal part of things...

I wouldn't say that they have any experience. Butler has maybe seen 5 live game snaps at most. Studdard might have a series or two under his belt. While both have been here awhile neither has much in the wat of regular season expierence.

The cutting of Salaam is probably more a sign that Gibbs is fairlty confident in the abilities of Butler and Studdard.

El Tejano
02-25-2009, 03:44 PM
Now Chester is going to go on the radio and cry that his friend is no longer on the team and demand more money now and complain that talks of an extension have stalled.

El Tejano
02-25-2009, 03:45 PM
IThe cutting of Salaam is probably more a sign that Gibbs is fairlty confident in the abilities of Butler and Studdard.

As LTs?

Blake
02-25-2009, 03:52 PM
Im glad to see Salaam get cut. That guy was great if you like a guy who will push an edge rusher then fall on the ground and hope to God that the QB can get rid of the ball because the edge rusher is screaming at the QB now.

Weaver is interesting because we dont save much, but I guess they plan on going DE in round 1 to take his place.

I liked Demps but for some reason the coaches think his play went down to where he couldnt even get on the field.

Errant Hothy
02-25-2009, 03:53 PM
As LTs?

No. Reports are that Gibbs is still in love with Brown.

Butler more then likely will be the new swing tackle/primary back up, and Studdard will probably be the primary backup at RG.

dalemurphy
02-25-2009, 03:54 PM
I wouldn't say that they have any experience. Butler has maybe seen 5 live game snaps at most. Studdard might have a series or two under his belt. While both have been here awhile neither has much in the wat of regular season expierence.

The cutting of Salaam is probably more a sign that Gibbs is fairlty confident in the abilities of Butler and Studdard.

Not Studdard. No way! First of all, Studdard has nothing to do with the tackle position. Second, the tide has turned and the organization is seeing the light. All the dead weight is being recognized as such. Studdard won't make it through camp. We're going with talent and ability over insanity. Goodbye Studdard, goodbye Salaam, goodbye Weaver... the Victor Riley ghost of training camps past will haunt us no longer.... yippeeee!!

dalemurphy
02-25-2009, 03:57 PM
Maybe whoever stole Brandon Frye from us last year will give him a low tender and we can get him back. Oh, glory days are here!!!!!

Brown, Winston, Butler, Frye
Briesel, Pitts, Myers, Player to be named, Player to be named, Player to be named.

That sounds like a heck of a line, doesn't it.

Oh man, I just realized that perhaps we'll bid for Jason Brown C/G or Jake Groves C to compete with Myers.

infantrycak
02-25-2009, 03:59 PM
the ------ ----- ghost of training camps past will haunt us no longer.... yippeeee!!

Hey now--don't invoke that name again.

Errant Hothy
02-25-2009, 04:01 PM
Not Studdard. No way! First of all, Studdard has nothing to do with the tackle position. Second, the tide has turned and the organization is seeing the light. All the dead weight is being recognized as such. Studdard won't make it through camp. We're going with talent and ability over insanity. Goodbye Studdard, goodbye Salaam, goodbye Weaver... the Victor Riley ghost of training camps past will haunt us no longer.... yippeeee!!

See above post in regard to position.

The cutting of the veteran Salaam indicates that Gibbs has faith in the young guys Butler and Studdard. More about a veteran vs young uys then position.

Frye has already been cut from this team once, why would we want him back?

HOU-TEX
02-25-2009, 04:02 PM
Hey now--don't invoke that name again.

I-cak, do you know of any cap savings on Salaam and Demps?

I have no problem at all with Butler as our swing T.

Dapper
02-25-2009, 04:04 PM
i sure liked the way Wilson and Ferguson were playing together last year. I didn't miss Demps at all. I will miss a little of what Salaam brought to the table though. Dude was there when we needed him and only complained in the background from what I can remember. Of all the cuts, that's the one we may regret. I don't see Butler as the answer as the swing tackle and from what I've seen, Studdard is lucky to still be on the team.

Polo
02-25-2009, 04:05 PM
I wouldn't say that they have any experience. Butler has maybe seen 5 live game snaps at most. Studdard might have a series or two under his belt. While both have been here awhile neither has much in the wat of regular season expierence.

The cutting of Salaam is probably more a sign that Gibbs is fairlty confident in the abilities of Butler and Studdard.

I don't think that having actual "in game experience" is the be all end all when it comes to "experience".

All you need is a guy that can step in that knows the plays, that you are fairly confident can match up physically against the DE's they'll face...

My point is that they should have a very good understanding of the system.

Schaub didn't have a whole lot of in game experience when we handed him the reigns, but he did have the experience of going through practices, learning a system, and just knowing what being a pro is about.

Errant Hothy
02-25-2009, 04:11 PM
i sure liked the way Wilson and Ferguson were playing together last year. I didn't miss Demps at all. I will miss a little of what Salaam brought to the table though. Dude was there when we needed him and only complained in the background from what I can remember. Of all the cuts, that's the one we may regret. I don't see Butler as the answer as the swing tackle and from what I've seen, Studdard is lucky to still be on the team.

I'd be curious as to how you came to this conclussion? Espically inlight of the fact that Butler has maybe 2 total minutes of game tape, and I'm fairly certain that you don't attend too many practices.

Specnatz
02-25-2009, 04:12 PM
I-cak, do you know of any cap savings on Salaam and Demps?

I have no problem at all with Butler as our swing T.

I am not I-Cak but was about to post this since someone else asked.

At InTheBullsEye it looks it is a savings of $2.350 Mil for Demps, there is a dead money hit of $500K though.

Salaam is a bit smaller saving $845,000 with a dead money hit of $283,333.

http://www.inthebullseye.com/cap2009.html

Errant Hothy
02-25-2009, 04:13 PM
I don't think that having actual "in game experience" is the be all end all when it comes to "experience".

All you need is a guy that can step in that knows the plays, that you are fairly confident can match up physically against the DE's they'll face...

My point is that they should have a very good understanding of the system.

Schaub didn't have a whole lot of in game experience when we handed him the reigns, but he did have the experience of going through practices, learning a system, and just knowing what being a pro is about.


I'll agree with that. I think after working with both Butler and Studdard for a year, Gibbs is fairly certian of their abilities and how they would perform in the system.

Hervoyel
02-25-2009, 04:15 PM
Hey now--don't invoke that name again.


Indeed. Say it three times into a mirror and he appears, eats everything in your refrigerator, and gets named starting LT of your favorite football team.

Nobody wants that.

barrett
02-25-2009, 04:15 PM
nobody has faith in Studdard. you'd be out of your mind or blind to think he is worth a roster spot.

imatexan
02-25-2009, 04:16 PM
Ehh:thinking:

dalemurphy
02-25-2009, 04:17 PM
Will Demps nets us $1.8 million is savings and Salaam is just under $1 million.

TEXANS84
02-25-2009, 04:22 PM
PFT is calling all three cuts (Weaver/Salaam/Demps) a total savings of $3.995 million.

Specnatz
02-25-2009, 04:24 PM
Will Demps nets us $1.8 million is savings and Salaam is just under $1 million.

Nope it is $2.350 ................

Demps, Will 2009

$2,350,000 Base Salary

$500,000 Signing Bonus

$2,850,000 2009 Cap Figure.

Texecutioner
02-25-2009, 04:24 PM
Thank god Weaver is gone.

Polo
02-25-2009, 04:27 PM
I'll agree with that. I think after working with both Butler and Studdard for a year, Gibbs is fairly certian of their abilities and how they would perform in the system.

I agree...

I dunno why so many people are down on the stud though...I think at the very least he's a serviceable back-up...

dalemurphy
02-25-2009, 04:29 PM
nobody has faith in Studdard. you'd be out of your mind or blind to think he is worth a roster spot.

His arms don't extend pass his beer belly. I don't know if that's an official combine test but it should be!

gtexan02
02-25-2009, 04:29 PM
Nope it is $2.350 ................

Demps, Will 2009

$2,350,000 Base Salary

$500,000 Signing Bonus

$2,850,000 2009 Cap Figure.

Actually dale was right. You include the allocated bonus payment of $500,000 for his 2010 cap hit as well. He was signed through 2010

dalemurphy
02-25-2009, 04:30 PM
Actually dale was right. You include the allocated bonus payment of $500,000 for his 2010 cap hit as well. He was signed through 2010

this may be the theme of the day!!

Specnatz
02-25-2009, 04:39 PM
Actually dale was right. You include the allocated bonus payment of $500,000 for his 2010 cap hit as well. He was signed through 2010

this may be the theme of the day!!

No your wrong. What cap hit in 2010? His deal runs out in 2009.

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47810&highlight=demps

DiehardChris
02-25-2009, 04:51 PM
Kubiak hinted right at the end of the season that Salaam wouldn't be back... and if you saw him on Jim Rome's TV show, he was still crying about Duane Brown having his starting job handed to him.

...and to whoever said they were surprised by Demps being cut - he was HORRIBLE last year. He was so bad that he was inactive a couple of times. That plus the fact that he was by FAR the highest-paid safety on the team sealed his fate a long time ago.

Goldensilence
02-25-2009, 04:55 PM
Looks like they wanted a last shot possibly to get something in return for Weaver. Wouldn't surprise me to see him go for the cheap to the Jets to be reunited with Rex Ryan.

I liked Salaam and I'm not sure many would argue he saved our butts at LT for a year or two, however I think the brain trust probably feels good with Butler going ahead. Which is good.

Demps I'm not sure what to think. Pretty bad when you get extended and another FA like Ferguson takes your spot over. Do hope they resign Eugene Wilson.

Is that officially the last bad contract off the books now?

Polo
02-25-2009, 05:05 PM
I wonder what the Texans are going to do @ FS.

DiehardChris
02-25-2009, 05:05 PM
I wonder what the Texans are going to do @ FS.

Hopefully, re-sign Eugene Wilson.

Big Poundcake
02-25-2009, 05:12 PM
I like all 3 moves.

If I could keep one of those guys, it would be Salaam, but I do think it might be time to find another young OL.

Big Poundcake
02-25-2009, 05:16 PM
Not Studdard. No way! First of all, Studdard has nothing to do with the tackle position. Second, the tide has turned and the organization is seeing the light. All the dead weight is being recognized as such. Studdard won't make it through camp. We're going with talent and ability over insanity. Goodbye Studdard, goodbye Salaam, goodbye Weaver... the Victor Riley ghost of training camps past will haunt us no longer.... yippeeee!!

I know how you feel about Studdard, but if Kubiak/Smith didn't think he was worth a roster spot, then he wouldn't be on the team.

I'm not saying Studdard is going to be a starter, but I wouldn't write him off the team already. He has been a over achiever his whole career.

DiehardChris
02-25-2009, 05:18 PM
I know how you feel about Studdard, but if Kubiak/Smith didn't think he was worth a roster spot, then he wouldn't be on the team.

I'm not saying Studdard is going to be a starter, but I wouldn't write him off the team already. He has been a over achiever his whole career.

I love Studdard's nastiness. I hope he can elevate his level of play enough to stick.

Frank Okam, however - is one ex-Horn who I'm afraid isn't going to make it.

TimeKiller
02-25-2009, 05:22 PM
GREAT news.

I guess they are looking at DE unless they think Cochran/Bulman are going to get it done.

Big Poundcake
02-25-2009, 05:22 PM
I love Studdard's nastiness. I hope he can elevate his level of play enough to stick.

Frank Okam, however - is one ex-Horn who I'm afraid isn't going to make it. Agree 100% on Okam. I'm hoping the new D-Line coach can light a serious FIRE underneath Okam, but who knows. I think if he doesn't seriously impress early in camp, then he will likely be gone.

Ryan
02-25-2009, 05:29 PM
What tragic news.


:sarcasm:

DiehardChris
02-25-2009, 05:33 PM
Agree 100% on Okam. I'm hoping the new D-Line coach can light a serious FIRE underneath Okam, but who knows. I think if he doesn't seriously impress early in camp, then he will likely be gone.

Even if he does light a fire, I think Frank would have to lose some weight. He could still be that huge space-eating NT, but I think he'd need to do it at 320 rather than the 342 he's listed at now. Even an attacking line like Kollar coaches can still have a big fat guy there, but not one that's THAT fat.

Runner
02-25-2009, 05:41 PM
His arms don't extend pass his beer belly.

I thought you were talking about Victor Riley again.

GP
02-25-2009, 05:58 PM
Hopefully, re-sign Eugene Wilson.

Exactly.

I think we're going CB or LB in the draft.

All this talk about Okam being gone? If TJ is still here...Frank ain't getting cut. The dline has had a lot of focus, in terms of the draft, with Mario and Amobi. Bulman and Robinson and Cochran are also showing signs of being dark-horse d-linemen. With an "attacking" style of dline coach, I'm not concerned with filling out our d-line with first round picks. I think Kollar will whip Okam into shape.

Eugene seems to have made a better difference at safety than Demps had made the year before. What Demps did for us two years ago, Wilson has doubled it IMO.

That leaves the corners and the linebackers. Dunta is likely g-o-n-e unless the two sides make up a lot of ground on the contract. DeMeco is making noise.

The two "shocker" picks that we could do in round 1 would be to go RB or QB, but we seem to be very methodical and calculated under Smithiak. A trade-down, out of 15, and down enough spots to grab us another 3rd rounder wouldn't be unlikely.

Reading the tea-leaves, I think d-line is not a focus in round 1 nor in round 2 unless that "just riiiiight" guy is sitting there for us. I think this is a draft that we see us stockpile LBs and DBs. It's going to be a bloody war in training camp for those final roster spots, and we can always put guys onto Practice Squad in their rookie year--Then bring 'em up if a LB or DB gets hurt.

Rememer the days, in the Capers era, when we would watch on Draft Day and post "WTH?" and "Scratching my head on THAT one...yikes." How can you be a Texans fan right now and not love watching us on draft day? This is why the NFL is the best pro sport: A long layoff, but the right amount of "stuff" sprinkled into the mix during the off-season...juuuust enough to keep you on the edge of your seat the whole year.

Big Poundcake
02-25-2009, 06:05 PM
Even if he does light a fire, I think Frank would have to lose some weight. He could still be that huge space-eating NT, but I think he'd need to do it at 320 rather than the 342 he's listed at now. Even an attacking line like Kollar coaches can still have a big fat guy there, but not one that's THAT fat.I don't think the weight is a issue with Okam. He doesn't look that out of shape. Really, he looks like a Monster, but that makes his lackluster performances even more confusing.

The Texans knew what they were getting themselves into when they took Okam.The questions on Okam's motor, intensity and love for the game have been question marks since his days at Texas.

I think he is going to have to show some serious fire and passion to keep his roster spot.

I'm not trying to hate on Okam. I'm rooting for the guy to succeed.

DiehardChris
02-25-2009, 06:18 PM
I don't think the weight is a issue with Okam. He doesn't look that out of shape. Really, he looks like a Monster, but that makes his lackluster performances even more confusing.

The Texans knew what they were getting themselves into when they took Okam.The questions on Okam's motor, intensity and love for the game have been question marks since his days at Texas.

I think he is going to have to show some serious fire and passion to keep his roster spot.

I'm not trying to hate on Okam. I'm rooting for the guy to succeed.

Yeah, if you're saying the bottom line on Okam is the mental (meaning fire, not intelligence, obviously) and not the physical, I'm 100% with you on that. That said - last year when he DID get in the games, he very often absolutely BLEW UP the plays that came at him - but he was so spent after those few plays that he didn't even make it in after that.

So I dunno - maybe if he gets that fire lit, it will affect what appears to be a huge conditioning issue.

PHAROAH
02-25-2009, 06:47 PM
Man i'm loving the moves all this does is give us a chance to pick up some really good free agents and it give us flexibility in the draft but we have to nail the free agent signings though.

DocBar
02-25-2009, 08:39 PM
This is a lot more cuts than I thought we would make. I'm fine if we get more experienced players, I'd just hate to fill all of these vacancies with rookies or castoffs. If they did that, could you REALLY tell the difference? It's been nuttin' but for 7 years at most positions.

It's Christmas!!!! Salaam has been cut! finally! Apparently, the organization finally sees my value and is now operating largely based on my reccomendations. Now, as long as Studdard doesn't make the 53 man roster, everyone will know who is really in charge... That would be me, for those who can't follow my twisted logic. What a day this is shaping up to be. God bless Rashod Butler and the Houston Texans! I have a hard time believing Salaam is gone. Weaver has been a bust for a while, but Salaam did pretty much what he was paid to do. I'm glad to see some aggressive personnel move by Kubes, though. I think that shows him growing as an HC AND more confidence in his DC. The only thing he's done as HC without thinking it through is the 2 minute drill, play challenges and, maybe, David Carr. I have the utmost confidence in this FO to make the right offseason choices, so do what ya goota do, guys. Get us to the playoffs in '09.

barrett
02-25-2009, 09:38 PM
unless it means wearing all red. then i'd rather be 8-8 eternally.

threetoedpete
02-26-2009, 02:00 AM
As LTs?

Well, everytime they talk about Butler it's like syrup over pancakes...we'll see. I'm with you Tejano, better hope Duane stays healthy this summer. Salaam pretty much was a plug and play guy.

HOU-TEX
02-26-2009, 09:54 AM
Well, everytime they talk about Butler it's like syrup over pancakes...we'll see. I'm with you Tejano, better hope Duane stays healthy this summer. Salaam pretty much was a plug and play guy.

Salaam was a horrible pass blocker. A DE with speed would blast by him with ease leaving him on his hands and knees with his blubber jiggling.

"Plug and play"...pffft! Plug and play like shit maybe.

El Tejano
02-26-2009, 11:33 AM
Well, everytime they talk about Butler it's like syrup over pancakes...we'll see. I'm with you Tejano, better hope Duane stays healthy this summer. Salaam pretty much was a plug and play guy.

I'm wondering if there is a cheaper, younger veteran somewhere out there that can do what Salaam did.

What made this move good was they appearantly saved 3.9 against the cap this year.

What sux is now we don't know what Ellen is gonna do for her segment with Chester and Salaam

RasTaofarI
02-27-2009, 04:39 PM
too bad about salaam. i live in sacramento and quite a few people i know went to hs with him.
no more,"you're a texans fan!?! oh wait, my boy ephraim plays for them."

threetoedpete
02-28-2009, 12:59 AM
Salaam was a horrible pass blocker. A DE with speed would blast by him with ease leaving him on his hands and knees with his blubber jiggling.

"Plug and play"...pffft! Plug and play like shit maybe.


well what he was making....being paid as a back up swing guy...I'd say he did just fine. I've been watching people banging on Brisiel this off season. And every time I see it I wonder what final seven games they were watching ?

I'm pretty grateful of the work Salaam did here. Especially the thirty three consecutive starts when there was absolutely no one in the cup board to replace him.

Honoring Earl 34
02-28-2009, 01:03 AM
well what he was making....being paid as a back up swing guy...I'd say he did just fine. I've been watching people banging on Brisiel this off season. And every time I see it I wonder what final seven games they were watching ?

I'm pretty grateful of the work Salaam did here. Especially the thirty three consecutive starts when there was absolutely no one in the cup board to replace him.

Salaam looked like Anthony Munoz compared to some guys we've had .

Polo
02-28-2009, 02:20 AM
Up to this point I think you can argue that Salaam has probably been our best LT in franchise history

houstonbola
02-28-2009, 02:29 AM
People have no idea how happy I am that we cut Weaver. I have to admit I wasnt expecting it til next year cause of the minimal savings for the cap. To Salaam I just want to say thanks for your hardwork and professionalism, good luck.

infantrycak
02-28-2009, 02:13 PM
Up to this point I think you can argue that Salaam has probably been our best LT in franchise history

To date, that award goes to Pitts.