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Silver Oak
02-12-2009, 12:40 PM
anyone else think we may have lower attendance this season? based on what I see here, ebay, and the official site, lots of people are trying to get out from under their tix.

positeve side is that we'll have shorter beer lines.

Blake
02-12-2009, 12:45 PM
Its a buyers market. But the beer lines will always be long...

Yankee_In_TX
02-12-2009, 01:52 PM
Its a buyers market. But the beer lines will always be long...

No - 2-14 was a buyer's market. And the secondary (PSL) market still fetched a hefty price.

imatexan
02-12-2009, 02:03 PM
I doubt it, thier is more hope than ever this season.

MannyFresh
02-12-2009, 02:11 PM
I'm hearing and seeing more folks not renew or trying to get rid of their tix...I'm in the market for season tix..but just being selective... heard of great deals and even had folks have attitudes about it, meaning they want a profit instead of breaking even.

Drew_Smoke
02-12-2009, 04:11 PM
If its true more PSLs are available it's because of the economy and not the team.

Yankee_In_TX
02-12-2009, 04:25 PM
I'm hearing and seeing more folks not renew or trying to get rid of their tix...I'm in the market for season tix..but just being selective... heard of great deals and even had folks have attitudes about it, meaning they want a profit instead of breaking even.

A lot of people bought a bunch of PSL's as "profit centers." Every year people complain about how bad their "investment" is.

I find year in and year out if I have an extra ticket or two I get just over face. Not sure how people actually get 100's of dollars over face - but that's a lot of prices on Ebay and Stubhub.

MannyFresh
02-12-2009, 04:40 PM
Yes your totally right...still haven't decided if I want to just call the Texans and get my tix or see what someone has. Buyer's market yes indeed just trying to find the best deal.

Silver Oak
02-12-2009, 05:03 PM
we had both Directors Club and our PSL seats last season, but with the uncertain economy, we gave up our DC tix and will be back in Sec. 530. :shots:

RTP2110
03-03-2009, 10:52 AM
Looking on Seasonticketrights, there are about three times as many PSLs for sale as there were last season when I bought mine.

Hardcore Texan
03-03-2009, 10:56 AM
There are a lot more PSL's for sale this year, at least as far as I have noticed. I was going to by two more PSL's so I would have 4 total, found a real good deal but after talking it over the wife we just couldn't pull the trigger, definitely too much uncertainty/lack of confidence in the economy. Investing the money in upgrading my kitchen instead.

Andrew6
03-03-2009, 01:46 PM
There are a lot more PSL's for sale this year, at least as far as I have noticed. I was going to by two more PSL's so I would have 4 total, found a real good deal but after talking it over the wife we just couldn't pull the trigger, definitely too much uncertainty/lack of confidence in the economy. Investing the money in upgrading my kitchen instead.


I wouldn't say there are more just the time of year. People see the sticker shock at the beginning of the year when they get there bills and look to sell. its a vicous circle.

CloakNNNdagger
03-04-2009, 08:15 AM
I wouldn't say there are more just the time of year. People see the sticker shock at the beginning of the year when they get there bills and look to sell. its a vicous circle.

Your premise does not hold up when you look at what in reality is being reported nationally. While people "ride out the storm" in this economy, can more responsibly justify to do without PSL's and season tickets, than
many without food, fuel/electrical costs and mortage payents. Unfortunately, selling their PSL's and/or season tickets commonly necessitate selling them at significant loss.............if they are able to sell them at all. Furthermore, it remains the PSL holder's responsibility for the associated season ticket cost, if he cannot dump his PSL obligation........a very uncomfortable situation for one who is already strapped in this regrettable economy.

ubecool454
03-04-2009, 01:06 PM
I wouldn't say there are more just the time of year. People see the sticker shock at the beginning of the year when they get there bills and look to sell. its a vicous circle.

Andrew I think you hit the nail on the head.

RTP2110
04-24-2009, 09:59 AM
Check out what's going on in Tampa


After trumpeting a waiting list thousands strong for almost a decade, the Buccaneers now say fans can purchase 2009 season tickets immediately.

A harsh economy has whittled away at Tampa Bay's season-ticket base, and the Bucs are expected to announce Friday that seats at Raymond James Stadium are now available to the general public without a wait.

"We're very committed to our fans, and you can see that in what we've done to accommodate them,'' said Jason Layton, Tampa Bay's senior director of sales and finance. "We've had really good renewals this year and we're pretty pleased, but we are going to make season tickets available to the public without the wait.''

Layton declined to specify how many season tickets would be freed up, starting Friday.

During the NFL meetings in California last month, Bucs co-chairman Joel Glazer acknowledged Tampa Bay could no longer afford to proceed with business as usual.

"There's no question the economy has had an effect on sports and we've seen it with the Buccaneers,'' Glazer told The Tribune. "Things are tough right now and a lot of families have been affected. Our season-ticket base has been affected. We have to make it easier for our fans to enjoy the Buccaneers. We're looking at things a little differently.''

The Bucs have designed some new ticket options for 2009:

*New four- and five-game half-season ticket packages.

*Upper level seating options without a seat deposit.

*Lower level seating available.

*Youth ticket prices.

*More flexible payment plans for season tickets.

"Yes, it's been a challenging time, but our sales group is excited about our new options,'' Layton said. "With the economy the way it is, it will be a lot easier for fans to purchase season tickets.''

According to a Team Marketing Report study released last fall, Tampa Bay's average ticket price of $90 in 2008 was second in the league only to perennial Super Bowl contender New England.

In January, the Bucs announced they would freeze season-ticket prices for 2009.

This year's season-ticket packages feature nine games at Raymond James Stadium instead of the usual 10 because Tampa Bay is listed as the home team for the Oct. 25 matchup against the Patriots at London's Wembley Stadium.

For ticket information, contact the Buccaneers sales department at (866) 582-2827.

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/apr/23/240147/bucs-season-tickets-will-be-available-public/sports-bucs/

sakebomb
04-25-2009, 10:03 AM
Mini packages for football. Now I've seen everything.

NitroGSXR
04-25-2009, 10:36 AM
Definitely. I was able to purchase ticket this season on the sole premiese that a seller (a respected member here on the board) was willing to take payments. The economy definitely played a part in that. Other people were not able to swoop in and snag these tickets with the cash in hand. As a result, I'm a proud season ticket holder this season.

Thank you, seller. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Bleep the economy. I have a job. Give me my tickets! Us diehards are a rare breed. It's going to take a lot to weasle these tickets from my hands, bad economy or not.

texanmojo
04-25-2009, 12:29 PM
Mini packages for football. Now I've seen everything.

If it gets fans in the seats...I think its a great idea. Baseball and basketball do this, why not football?

ubecool454
05-27-2009, 05:06 PM
I'm hearing and seeing more folks not renew or trying to get rid of their tix...I'm in the market for season tix..but just being selective... heard of great deals and even had folks have attitudes about it, meaning they want a profit instead of breaking even.

Can you just tell me where you are seeing and hearing this? I don't see anymore movement than in the past years. You don't think it may be wishful thinking since you say you are in the market for tickets huh? Wait until July when the tickets are mailed out and the preseason and Training camp starts.

Revolution
05-27-2009, 10:24 PM
Mini packages for football. Now I've seen everything.

The Texans have been doing that for at least two years. The have been selling two packs...

eriadoc
05-28-2009, 08:28 AM
As a side note, the Texans raised the PSL transfer fee from $50 to $250 this year, one day after I officially transferred mine. So if you're having problems affording those tix, the Texans would like to make it even more difficult for you to move them.

Hardcore Texan
05-28-2009, 09:56 AM
As a side note, the Texans raised the PSL transfer fee from $50 to $250 this year, one day after I officially transferred mine. So if you're having problems affording those tix, the Texans would like to make it even more difficult for you to move them.

That is ridiculous, a freaking 500% increase.....really? I could see them doubling it but that's just outright insane. Way to go Bob. :rolleyes:

ubecool454
06-01-2009, 08:37 PM
As a side note, the Texans raised the PSL transfer fee from $50 to $250 this year, one day after I officially transferred mine. So if you're having problems affording those tix, the Texans would like to make it even more difficult for you to move them.

I didn't know that. Did they give a reason for such a hefty increase?

TexansMVP
06-01-2009, 09:31 PM
Interesting about the PSL transfer fees if true. It wouldn't surprise me if it could be a ploy with them and the Texans PSL marketplace to force more ppl to use that site as well.

ubecool454
06-02-2009, 09:16 AM
Interesting about the PSL transfer fees if true. It wouldn't surprise me if it could be a ploy with them and the Texans PSL marketplace to force more ppl to use that site as well.

good point.

Yankee_In_TX
06-02-2009, 11:36 AM
As a side note, the Texans raised the PSL transfer fee from $50 to $250 this year, one day after I officially transferred mine. So if you're having problems affording those tix, the Texans would like to make it even more difficult for you to move them.

Whoa! I bought 2 in December, glad I did it then.

eriadoc
06-02-2009, 01:18 PM
I didn't know that. Did they give a reason for such a hefty increase?

No, and I didn't ask. I was going through the process and the PSL rep gave me the heads-up a day in advance of it.

As a rule, I've been very happy with the people employed by the Texans and very disappointed by the Texans' policies and application thereof.

Drew_Smoke
06-02-2009, 02:33 PM
As a rule, I've been very happy with the people employed by the Texans and very disappointed by the Texans' policies and application thereof.

I could not have phrased that better myself.

CloakNNNdagger
06-02-2009, 09:46 PM
From Houston Texans PSL MarketPlace FAQs (http://texans.seasonticketrights.com/FAQs.aspx):

What are the buyer fees?

The buyer is charged a transaction fee calculated as 10% of the sale price (minimum $250). This fee is due when you submit payment. This Transaction Fee is different from the normal $50 transfer fee, which the Houston Texans have waived for all transactions using the Texans PSL Marketplace.

As my mom would have said......."Such a Deal!!!":shades: