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RagingBull
01-23-2009, 02:45 AM
[/URL][url]http://www.inthebullseye.com/cap2009.html (http://www.inthebullseye.com/cap2009.html)

Judging from the inthebullseye.com salary cap info, the Texans should have quite a bit of money to work with. As it stands, they have almost $30 million available before resigning thier free agents.

If they cut some of the dead weight (e.g. Ahman Green, Anthony Weaver, and Morlon Greenwood) they can save 4.8 million, 4.8 million, and 3.5 million respectively for a total of 13.1 million. Dead money for each would be 2 million, 1.5 million, and 2.7 million for a total of about 6.2 million. In my opinion you could get two top end free agents for the 13.1 million that would be saved by cutting this dead weight which should more than make up for the 6 million in dead money. Even if they got rid of these three guys and gave someone an Asante Samuel type contract at $9 million per season, they would still come out ahead.

That would give them a total of about $43 million to work with.

The unrestricted free agents are:
Brown, C.C.
Bruener, Mark
Faggins, Demarcus
Ferguson, Nick
Kalu, N.D.
Pittman, Bryan
Robinson, Dunta
White, Chris
Zgonina, Jeff

I assume they will make an effort to resign Dunta and possibly Nick Ferguson and Chris White. Maybe also CC Brown. I cannot see them resigning Petey, Kalu (retired), Pittman, or Zgonina.

Restricted free agents are:
Anderson, David
Butler, Rashad
Daniels, Owen
Dreesen, Joel
Jackson, Scott
McClover, Stanley

I expect they will want to resign Daniels, Anderson, and Dreesen.

They also have to think about the core guys whose contracts will expire in 2009 including Chester Pitts, Kevin Walter, Kris Brown, and Demeco Ryans. They may want to get them contract extensions now.

Based upon this, they should have plenty of cap room to sign some additional free agents, even one or two top end guys.

Really, the Texans are not that far away from being contenders if they can get their defense fixed. The addition of just one impact player like Asomugha or Peppers could make a profound difference in the competetiveness of the team. It would also totally change the draft strategy to know that we had a top CB or DE locked up.

I really don't see it as being too unlikely for them to pursue one of these guys as all of the Casserly dead money is now gone and it seems the Texans have moved into a "win now" mode. We were all pretty surprised when they pulled the trigger on Schaub. They also gave Ahman Green a pretty big contract.

Thoughts?

PHAROAH
01-23-2009, 05:19 AM
[/URL][url]http://www.inthebullseye.com/cap2009.html (http://www.inthebullseye.com/cap2009.html)

Judging from the inthebullseye.com salary cap info, the Texans should have quite a bit of money to work with. As it stands, they have almost $30 million available before resigning thier free agents.

If they cut some of the dead weight (e.g. Ahman Green, Anthony Weaver, and Morlon Greenwood) they can save 4.8 million, 4.8 million, and 3.5 million respectively for a total of 13.1 million. Dead money for each would be 2 million, 1.5 million, and 2.7 million for a total of about 6.2 million. In my opinion you could get two top end free agents for the 13.1 million that would be saved by cutting this dead weight which should more than make up for the 6 million in dead money. Even if they got rid of these three guys and gave someone an Asante Samuel type contract at $9 million per season, they would still come out ahead.

That would give them a total of about $43 million to work with.

The unrestricted free agents are:
Brown, C.C.
Bruener, Mark
Faggins, Demarcus
Ferguson, Nick
Kalu, N.D.
Pittman, Bryan
Robinson, Dunta
White, Chris
Zgonina, Jeff

I assume they will make an effort to resign Dunta and possibly Nick Ferguson and Chris White. Maybe also CC Brown. I cannot see them resigning Petey, Kalu (retired), Pittman, or Zgonina.

Restricted free agents are:
Anderson, David
Butler, Rashad
Daniels, Owen
Dreesen, Joel
Jackson, Scott
McClover, Stanley

I expect they will want to resign Daniels, Anderson, and Dreesen.

They also have to think about the core guys whose contracts will expire in 2009 including Chester Pitts, Kevin Walter, Kris Brown, and Demeco Ryans. They may want to get them contract extensions now.

Based upon this, they should have plenty of cap room to sign some additional free agents, even one or two top end guys.

Really, the Texans are not that far away from being contenders if they can get their defense fixed. The addition of just one impact player like Asomugha or Peppers could make a profound difference in the competetiveness of the team. It would also totally change the draft strategy to know that we had a top CB or DE locked up.

I really don't see it as being too unlikely for them to pursue one of these guys as all of the Casserly dead money is now gone and it seems the Texans have moved into a "win now" mode. We were all pretty surprised when they pulled the trigger on Schaub. They also gave Ahman Green a pretty big contract.

Thoughts? That is the perfect route we need to take I would like to go after DB Nnamdi Asomugha and one of the top OLB's in free agency and draft DE -Everette Brown or Brian Orakpo if they fall to us at #15.




:brando:

BigBull17
01-23-2009, 08:55 AM
That is the perfect route we need to take I would like to go after DB Nnamdi Asomugha and one of the top OLB's in free agency and draft DE -Everette Brown or Brian Orakpo if they fall to us at #15.




:brando:

I wouldnt expect anything but a trade down in the 1st. Look for Detroit to move up if Sanchez slides to 15.

gtexan02
01-23-2009, 09:23 AM
If Sanchez falls to 15, what makes you think he won't fall all the way to 20? I don't necessarily see any of the teams 16-19 taking a QB in round 1. San Diego and Chicago, no way. Tampa and NYJ maybe, but I would think they have more pressing needs

Specnatz
01-23-2009, 09:59 AM
If Sanchez falls to 15, what makes you think he won't fall all the way to 20? I don't necessarily see any of the teams 16-19 taking a QB in round 1. San Diego and Chicago, no way. Tampa and NYJ maybe, but I would think they have more pressing needs

Why would Chicago not draft Sanchez? I think they are just as likely as any when you are talking the bottom of the first round. Some teams in this area have stellar D but poor QB play. Chicago and Minnesota are two such teams. Like the Baltimore Ravens last year. One would add that team in possum hollar if its owner was not still in love with its crybaby of a QB.

threetoedpete
01-23-2009, 11:07 AM
Why would Chicago not draft Sanchez? I think they are just as likely as any when you are talking the bottom of the first round. Some teams in this area have stellar D but poor QB play. Chicago and Minnesota are two such teams. Like the Baltimore Ravens last year. One would add that team in possum hollar if its owner was not still in love with its crybaby of a QB.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=285825
Chicago Bears-

1.Wide Receiver- Although it is the Bears #1 need, it is not a possition that is wished to be addressed via draft. Theres no clear cut 1st round worthy WR outside Crabtree
2. Free Safety- The bears have a major need at a Centerfielder, good tackler, good in pass coverage
3. Left Defensive End- Pass rush Pass rush Pass Rush, i cannot emphasize it more.
4. SLB- The bears need a play maker at OLB besides Briggs, someone who is a tackling machine.

I see a lot of people forcing two QBs into the top ten. I don't believe it. According to this bears fan....Qb is an after thought. Free safety and a rush DE are absolutes.


I know how he feels...I see a lot of folks ranking Safeties high for the Texans. If you're slanting DT's, better have the OLBs who can scrape and fill.

threetoedpete
01-23-2009, 11:14 AM
Nice post Raging bull. I pretty much agree. I believe though they'll do what they've always done...take second trier guys who show promise. Don't expect a big splash in free agency. We're loaded at back up DLs. They're loaded with young DBs. They need a rush specialist. With Adibi's injury history...Dilles broken leg...I bet they hedge their bets before the draft with an OLB.

D-ReK
01-23-2009, 11:18 AM
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=285825


I see a lot of people forcing two QBs into the top ten. I don't believe it. According to this bears fan....Qb is an after thought. Free safety and a rush DE are absolutes.


I know how he feels...I see a lot of folks ranking Safeties high for the Texans. If you're slanting DT's, better have the OLBs who can scrape and fill.

That's well and good, but this is directly from the lips of Jerry Angelo:

``My vantage point, in terms of where I was coming from when I spoke at the end of the season was, we still need to get that position solidified in terms of overall performance on a consistent basis,’’ Angelo said. ``We were unable to do that last year. Kyle started out very well, got a bit of an injury. ... But I thought Kyle played better there. But until we get that position solidified in terms of winning football week in and week out, it’s going to be tough for us as a football team, particularly as an offense, and that has been our Achilles’ heel under my watch. And that’s something that I’m obviously sensitive to and want to make sure that we’re staying focused on it.’’

But whether Angelo will pursue a top free-agent quarterback or a rookie capable of developing behind Orton remains the unknown.

``I can’t sit here and say definitively what we’re going to do,’’ he said. ``I know right now what we have and I feel good about that. I feel good about Kyle. I feel good about Caleb Hanie. And I want to make sure everybody understands that. But I want to make sure we look at every option that we potentially have to make sure we’re the best going forward at that position in the off-season.’’
LINK (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2009/01/angelo-supports-orton-but-still-keeping-bears-qb-options-open.html)

There's no first round quality FS and pass rushing DEs look to be deep this year, so you have to think if Sanchez falls, which I think either he or Stafford will, then the Bears are definitely a threat to take him.

GP
01-23-2009, 11:36 AM
[/URL][url]http://www.inthebullseye.com/cap2009.html (http://www.inthebullseye.com/cap2009.html)

Judging from the inthebullseye.com salary cap info, the Texans should have quite a bit of money to work with. As it stands, they have almost $30 million available before resigning thier free agents.

If they cut some of the dead weight (e.g. Ahman Green, Anthony Weaver, and Morlon Greenwood) they can save 4.8 million, 4.8 million, and 3.5 million respectively for a total of 13.1 million. Dead money for each would be 2 million, 1.5 million, and 2.7 million for a total of about 6.2 million. In my opinion you could get two top end free agents for the 13.1 million that would be saved by cutting this dead weight which should more than make up for the 6 million in dead money. Even if they got rid of these three guys and gave someone an Asante Samuel type contract at $9 million per season, they would still come out ahead.

That would give them a total of about $43 million to work with.

The unrestricted free agents are:
Brown, C.C.
Bruener, Mark
Faggins, Demarcus
Ferguson, Nick
Kalu, N.D.
Pittman, Bryan
Robinson, Dunta
White, Chris
Zgonina, Jeff

I assume they will make an effort to resign Dunta and possibly Nick Ferguson and Chris White. Maybe also CC Brown. I cannot see them resigning Petey, Kalu (retired), Pittman, or Zgonina.

Restricted free agents are:
Anderson, David
Butler, Rashad
Daniels, Owen
Dreesen, Joel
Jackson, Scott
McClover, Stanley

I expect they will want to resign Daniels, Anderson, and Dreesen.

They also have to think about the core guys whose contracts will expire in 2009 including Chester Pitts, Kevin Walter, Kris Brown, and Demeco Ryans. They may want to get them contract extensions now.

Based upon this, they should have plenty of cap room to sign some additional free agents, even one or two top end guys.

Really, the Texans are not that far away from being contenders if they can get their defense fixed. The addition of just one impact player like Asomugha or Peppers could make a profound difference in the competetiveness of the team. It would also totally change the draft strategy to know that we had a top CB or DE locked up.

I really don't see it as being too unlikely for them to pursue one of these guys as all of the Casserly dead money is now gone and it seems the Texans have moved into a "win now" mode. We were all pretty surprised when they pulled the trigger on Schaub. They also gave Ahman Green a pretty big contract.

Thoughts?

Uhh...my thoughts are this: You've done a great job as a new poster.

Not sure if all your numbers are accurate. We have a couple of guys here who are good at breaking down the cap figures...so I'd like to see their opinions on the numbers and projections you've provided.

Your list of who will likely re-sign is pretty spot-on, at least from a fan's perspective. What I have learned, especially through our merry-go-round running back situation pre-Slaton, is that the coaches rarely do what we think they should do. The insertion of Robinson and Bulman, and keeping them in there a lot, is the exception to the rule. Generally, this team has been slow to make the right adjustments. They give guys (Weaver, for example) waayyyy too much time to prove themselves.

Overall, though, your post is excellent. I hope you're right about the extra money that's now freed up. However...I will not hold my breath that McNair will actually spend it. Times are tough, and all that jazz......

Tailgate
01-23-2009, 11:56 AM
Here it lists us at 19 million. I wonder which is more accurate?

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcsouth/0-7-418/Cap-space-numbers-for-AFC-South-teams.html

keyser
01-23-2009, 12:26 PM
Not sure if all your numbers are accurate....so I'd like to see their opinions on the numbers and projections you've provided.


There is at least one error on the inthebullseye numbers: Ahman Green's numbers don't add up (base is 4.8 million, allocated bonus is 2.04, but the sum is only 6.64 instead of 6.84). I'm not sure where the difference is coming from (and I'm not going to try to look it up myself!) so that will make some difference. Plus there may be roster bonuses and stuff that are aren't as apparent from the numbers, and throw off the calculations.

But using the numbers given, the cap savings from cutting some of the players would actually be (rounding a bit):

If cut early and allocated to this year, we save this year's salary, but pay this and all future years' allocated bonus.
Ahman Green: Saves between 2.6 and 3.0 million
Morlon Greenwood: Saves 4.8 million
Anthony Weaver: Saves 0.8 million
Will Demps: Saves 2.35 million

If cut later or allocated to next year, we save this year's salary:
Ahman Green: 4.6 million or 4.8 million savings this year, but leaves between 1.8 and 2.0 million dead money for next year
Morlon Greenwood: Saves 4.8 million (this is his final year)
Anthony Weaver: Saves 3.5 million, but leaves 2.7 million dead money next year.
Will Demps: Saves 2.35 million (this is his final year)


As for the bottom line difference, I don't know what causes it - we have no idea where the ESPN numbers came from. Some of the difference might be from the projected increase in the cap. Another difference might be that there are incentives built into some contracts (e.g. maybe Mario has one for making the Pro Bowl) that were considered "not likely to be earned", but will now count against next year's cap - if there are a bunch of those (though $11 million is a LOT!), that could account for some of the difference.

bigbrewster2000
01-23-2009, 12:32 PM
There is at least one error on the inthebullseye numbers: Ahman Green's numbers don't add up (base is 4.8 million, allocated bonus is 2.04, but the sum is only 6.64 instead of 6.84). I'm not sure where the difference is coming from (and I'm not going to try to look it up myself!) so that will make some difference. Plus there may be roster bonuses and stuff that are aren't as apparent from the numbers, and throw off the calculations.

But using the numbers given, the cap savings from cutting some of the players would actually be (rounding a bit):

If cut early and allocated to this year, we save this year's salary, but pay this and all future years' allocated bonus.
Ahman Green: Saves between 2.6 and 3.0 million
Morlon Greenwood: Saves 4.8 million
Anthony Weaver: Saves 0.8 million
Will Demps: Saves 2.35 million

If cut later or allocated to next year, we save this year's salary:
Ahman Green: 4.6 million or 4.8 million savings this year, but leaves between 1.8 and 2.0 million dead money for next year
Morlon Greenwood: Saves 4.8 million (this is his final year)
Anthony Weaver: Saves 3.5 million, but leaves 2.7 million dead money next year.
Will Demps: Saves 2.35 million (this is his final year)


As for the bottom line difference, I don't know what causes it - we have no idea where the ESPN numbers came from. Some of the difference might be from the projected increase in the cap. Another difference might be that there are incentives built into some contracts (e.g. maybe Mario has one for making the Pro Bowl) that were considered "not likely to be earned", but will now count against next year's cap - if there are a bunch of those (though $11 million is a LOT!), that could account for some of the difference.

Teams are not allowed to allocate to next year because of the threat of no cap. So the original savings are accurate.

GP
01-23-2009, 02:24 PM
This is why I should have taken math more seriously in school.

My brain is confoozled right now.

So, I think that what this means is tha--Oh! Gotta' go...someone invited me to a multi-player on Gears of War 2. [/sad statement on American culture].

texanhead08
01-23-2009, 02:36 PM
As long as Faggins isn't back I am fine. It would be nice not to watch him get beat every sunday.

Killer Bee
01-23-2009, 05:23 PM
The good news is that we have ample room on the cap. The bad news is I don’t see Rick Smith going on a shopping spree. There are too many players that need to be resigned or extended. Schaub will get his big extension next year. If we start signing the Nnamdi Asomugha and Julius Peppers of the world, how are we going to resign Mario? We can’t handcuff ourselves.

As far as cuts, Green, Demps, and Greenwood are goners. Weavers’ contract isn’t cut friendly. Way too much dead money and doesn’t save all that much. I know it sucks.

From Keith on http://www.inthebullseye.com/, “Anthony Weaver might be the most expensive on that list. He has two years remaining on a contract that guaranteed him $12 million. While his play improved down the stretch in 2008, his overall performance has still been a disappointment since joining the team in 2006. If he is released, then the Texans will need to absorb $5.4 million in dead money. The upshot? Saving $3.5 million off his base salary next season.”

I’m glad you brought up the discussion, great post.

RipTraxx
01-23-2009, 05:33 PM
The good news is that we have ample room on the cap. The bad news is I donít see Rick Smith going on a shopping spree. There are too many players that need to be resigned or extended. Schaub will get his big extension next year. If we start signing the Nnamdi Asomugha and Julius Peppers of the world, how are we going to resign Mario? We canít handcuff ourselves.

As far as cuts, Green, Demps, and Greenwood are goners. Weaversí contract isnít cut friendly. Way too much dead money and doesnít save all that much. I know it sucks.

Iím glad you brought up the discussion, great post.


Isnt TJs contract up after this year?

Killer Bee
01-23-2009, 05:47 PM
Isnt TJs contract up after this year?

Yes, let's see how he plays. I don't see him leaving until we find someone better.

RipTraxx
01-23-2009, 05:54 PM
Yes, let's see how he plays. I don't see him leaving until we find someone better.

I do.

We're paying a guy 1st rd. money when Bulman and Robinson get it done for a fraction of the price.

dalemurphy
01-23-2009, 05:58 PM
I do.

We're paying a guy 1st rd. money when Bulman and Robinson get it done for a fraction of the price.

I think the point is that the team doesn't gain much by releasing TJ. Therefore, unless he can't make the team as one of it's 9 best DLmen, he'll be back.

Say what you'd like about TJ's lack of production, but he's been playing WAY out of position. Esentially, he's been playing a NT. Under the new regime, he'll likely be asked to shoot between the center and Guard and try to make a play or chase the play. There is the possiblity that he'll be much better doing that.

rickyb
01-23-2009, 07:24 PM
Why would Chicago not draft Sanchez? I think they are just as likely as any when you are talking the bottom of the first round. Some teams in this area have stellar D but poor QB play. Chicago and Minnesota are two such teams. Like the Baltimore Ravens last year. One would add that team in possum hollar if its owner was not still in love with its crybaby of a QB.

Because I am drafting for the J-E-T-S. Right in front of Chicago. :kingkong:

Hey, Spec -- do you like apples?

Specnatz
01-23-2009, 08:00 PM
Because I am drafting for the J-E-T-S. Right in front of Chicago. :kingkong:

Hey, Spec -- do you like apples?

:spit:

Wolf6151
01-24-2009, 05:03 AM
So when do the Texans start trimming the fat (Weaver, Demps, Green, Brown, and Greenwood) and when does the Free Agency signing period begin? I'd like to see them cut these guys and turn that 30 mil. under the cap into 43 mil. under the cap and use the extra savings to pick up some good quality FA's.

buddyboy
01-24-2009, 11:33 AM
How much cap does a team typically reserve for the draft? And then, they also usually save a couple mill for free agents during the season in case of injury, right?

ArlingtonTexan
01-24-2009, 11:50 AM
So when do the Texans start trimming the fat (Weaver, Demps, Green, Brown, and Greenwood) and when does the Free Agency signing period begin? I'd like to see them cut these guys and turn that 30 mil. under the cap into 43 mil. under the cap and use the extra savings to pick up some good quality FA's.


Nfl calander of events

Jan 24th: Senior Bowl
Feb. 5 -- First day that teams may designate franchise or transition players
Feb 8 - Pro Bowl
Feb. 18-24 -- NFL combine
Feb. 19 -- Deadline for teams to designate franchise or transition players
Feb. 26 -- Deadline for teams to qualify offers to restricted free agents
Feb. 27 -- Free agency begins
March 16 -- First day that clubs may conduct offseason workouts or minicamps
March 22-25 -- Annual league meeting
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft

Relooked your question, I believe the first day teams can make cuts is Feb 9 (per a pacman article)

ArlingtonTexan
01-24-2009, 11:58 AM
How much cap does a team typically reserve for the draft? And then, they also usually save a couple mill for free agents during the season in case of injury, right?

This link is from 2007, but it gives you an idea to work form. the amount is based on the number and location of picks.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2862869

ChampionTexan
01-24-2009, 12:08 PM
How much cap does a team typically reserve for the draft? And then, they also usually save a couple mill for free agents during the season in case of injury, right?

The NFL has what they call a "Rookie Pool" which is an amount that is a subset of the salary cap (that is to say that it's not extra money), and the teams must stay within their pool amount. The amount is determined by the league, and while the formula is supposedly a closely guarded secret, it's based on the number of picks a team has, and how high those picks are.

According to ESPN, last year, the Chiefs had the biggest pool at about $8.2 Million (2 picks in the top 15, and 3-third round picks), and the Browns had the smallest amount at about $1.8 Million (no picks in the top three rounds). The Texans were 27th in pool dollars with just under $3.5 Million (no 2nd rounder, and a first rounder in the bottom half).

ESPN Link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3385956)

The theory is that if you've got a hard cap within a hard cap, it's going to make things easier to negotiate. You get everyone but the first round pick done, and then you go to the first round pick's agent and say "We've only got "X" dollars left, so league rules say that's all you can have". In reality, between escalating salaries, and deferred guaranteed bonuses, it's not really working, and it's a joke compared to the NBA system.

TexanSam
01-24-2009, 12:10 PM
Nfl calander of events

Jan 24th: Senior Bowl
Feb. 5 -- First day that teams may designate franchise or transition players
Feb 8 - Pro Bowl
Feb. 18-24 -- NFL combine
Feb. 19 -- Deadline for teams to designate franchise or transition players
Feb. 26 -- Deadline for teams to qualify offers to restricted free agents
Feb. 27 -- Free agency begins
March 16 -- First day that clubs may conduct offseason workouts or minicamps
March 22-25 -- Annual league meeting
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft

Relooked your question, I believe the first day teams can make cuts is Feb 9 (per a pacman article)

Aw geez, we still have to wait another month until free agency?? I hate the NFL offseason. It's soooo long. Especially after the draft...May, June, and July are brutal

Wolf6151
01-24-2009, 03:26 PM
Nfl calander of events

Jan 24th: Senior Bowl
Feb. 5 -- First day that teams may designate franchise or transition players
Feb 8 - Pro Bowl
Feb. 18-24 -- NFL combine
Feb. 19 -- Deadline for teams to designate franchise or transition players
Feb. 26 -- Deadline for teams to qualify offers to restricted free agents
Feb. 27 -- Free agency begins
March 16 -- First day that clubs may conduct offseason workouts or minicamps
March 22-25 -- Annual league meeting
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft

Relooked your question, I believe the first day teams can make cuts is Feb 9 (per a pacman article)


Thanks for the list of dates. Forgive my ignorance but what is a transition player?

ArlingtonTexan
01-24-2009, 06:24 PM
Thanks for the list of dates. Forgive my ignorance but what is a transition player?

Here ya go per wikipedia (sorry feeling lazy)

A transition tag is a tool used by National Football League teams to retain unrestricted free agents. It guarantees the original club the right of first refusal to match any offer the player may make with another team. The transition tag can be used once a year by each club unless they elect to use a franchise tag instead. Transition tags can be rescinded, however, teams that rescind a transition tag cannot use it again until the next season.

If a player signs a contract after receiving the transition tag, his original team can not use the tag again on any player until the contract has expired. The exception is if the player first signs a transition offer sheet, which is a one-year contract equal to the average salary of the top ten players in the league at the player's position, or a twenty percent salary increase, whichever is greater. This contract was not historically guaranteed, however, it will be guaranteed starting in 2007 per the collective bargaining agreement agreed to by the NFL owners and the NFLPA on March 8, 2006. If the player signs the offer sheet prior to a long-term contract, the player's team can then use the tag the next year.

If another club offers a contract to a transitioned player, his original club has seven days to decide whether the original club will match that offer or not. If the original club agrees to match, the player is forced to sign with the original club at the terms agreed to in the offer by the other club. If the original club declines to match, the player signs with the other team, and the original team is offered no compensation, as they would be if the player had received the franchise tag.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transition_tag

Second Honeymoon
01-24-2009, 08:50 PM
I don't see a salary cap being an issue at the moment for any team. 2010 is an uncapped year so you just funnel potential cap hits to the uncapped year. Owners happy and players happy because more 'cap space' more money for veteran FAs and rookies/UFAs.

GP
01-25-2009, 11:49 AM
I don't see a salary cap being an issue at the moment for any team. 2010 is an uncapped year so you just funnel potential cap hits to the uncapped year. Owners happy and players happy because more 'cap space' more money for veteran FAs and rookies/UFAs.

If true, then this would mean there technically ISN'T a cap this year. Correct? Teams can go "all out" for the next two years. It would be pandemonium.

Or would the cap hits be applied whenever the cap is restored?

Sheesh, this is like freaking quantum physics. Can't the NFL just figure out a way to simplify things so that the average person can follow this topic?

:ripping hair out of my skull:

Wolf
01-25-2009, 12:00 PM
[/URL][url]http://www.inthebullseye.com/cap2009.html (http://www.inthebullseye.com/cap2009.html)

Judging from the inthebullseye.com salary cap info, the Texans should have quite a bit of money to work with. As it stands, they have almost $30 million available before resigning thier free agents.

If they cut some of the dead weight (e.g. Ahman Green, Anthony Weaver, and Morlon Greenwood) they can save 4.8 million, 4.8 million, and 3.5 million respectively for a total of 13.1 million. Dead money for each would be 2 million, 1.5 million, and 2.7 million for a total of about 6.2 million. In my opinion you could get two top end free agents for the 13.1 million that would be saved by cutting this dead weight which should more than make up for the 6 million in dead money. Even if they got rid of these three guys and gave someone an Asante Samuel type contract at $9 million per season, they would still come out ahead.

That would give them a total of about $43 million to work with.

The unrestricted free agents are:
Brown, C.C.
Bruener, Mark
Faggins, Demarcus
Ferguson, Nick
Kalu, N.D.
Pittman, Bryan
Robinson, Dunta
White, Chris
Zgonina, Jeff

I assume they will make an effort to resign Dunta and possibly Nick Ferguson and Chris White. Maybe also CC Brown. I cannot see them resigning Petey, Kalu (retired), Pittman, or Zgonina.

Restricted free agents are:
Anderson, David
Butler, Rashad
Daniels, Owen
Dreesen, Joel
Jackson, Scott
McClover, Stanley

I expect they will want to resign Daniels, Anderson, and Dreesen.

They also have to think about the core guys whose contracts will expire in 2009 including Chester Pitts, Kevin Walter, Kris Brown, and Demeco Ryans. They may want to get them contract extensions now.

Based upon this, they should have plenty of cap room to sign some additional free agents, even one or two top end guys.

Really, the Texans are not that far away from being contenders if they can get their defense fixed. The addition of just one impact player like Asomugha or Peppers could make a profound difference in the competetiveness of the team. It would also totally change the draft strategy to know that we had a top CB or DE locked up.

I really don't see it as being too unlikely for them to pursue one of these guys as all of the Casserly dead money is now gone and it seems the Texans have moved into a "win now" mode. We were all pretty surprised when they pulled the trigger on Schaub. They also gave Ahman Green a pretty big contract.


Keith expanded a little bit
http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57868
Thoughts?

barrett
01-25-2009, 01:50 PM
i don't forsee the dreaded uncapped year happening. i think they'll get it worked out by the deadline.

ChampionTexan
01-25-2009, 02:10 PM
i don't forsee the dreaded uncapped year happening. i think they'll get it worked out by the deadline.

All I know is that the unanimous vote to terminate the existing CBA early wasn't because the owners wanted to spend more money on salaries than the cap would allow them too. Anyone who sees 2010 (uncapped or not) as as a spending free-for-all on the part of owners simply doesn't get it.

ArlingtonTexan
01-25-2009, 04:51 PM
If true, then this would mean there technically ISN'T a cap this year. Correct? Teams can go "all out" for the next two years. It would be pandemonium.

Or would the cap hits be applied whenever the cap is restored?

Sheesh, this is like freaking quantum physics. Can't the NFL just figure out a way to simplify things so that the average person can follow this topic?

:ripping hair out of my skull:
I will have to hunt down the article that has the details, but there is something in the rules which will keep teams from going crazy either this year or in 2010. I want to say that anyone who is cut has their entire bonus allocated to 2009, instead of spread though the life of the contract. whatever the dtails, there is only a small chance that teams are going crazy in the next couple of years.

threetoedpete
01-25-2009, 11:38 PM
I don't see a salary cap being an issue at the moment for any team. 2010 is an uncapped year so you just funnel potential cap hits to the uncapped year. Owners happy and players happy because more 'cap space' more money for veteran FAs and rookies/UFAs.

And your beer and hot dog just hit fifteen fifty.