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Errant Hothy
01-20-2009, 12:38 PM
Link
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6220659.html

FYI, no Denver connection.

johndoe
01-20-2009, 12:42 PM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6220659.html

Not who I was hoping for but, my faith in Kubiak/Smith is unwavering...

Goldensilence
01-20-2009, 12:45 PM
At first glance and looking at how the Bills defense fared this season I am not overtly impressed.

Would've been real great has they been able to lure the Giant's DL coach away.

Not that it is a direct correlation but the best the Bills defense has done the past 3 years is 18th in the league and twice have landed behind us in rankings.

nunusguy
01-20-2009, 12:45 PM
Never heard of him, which probably makes no difference whatsoever.

drewmar74
01-20-2009, 12:45 PM
Good catch, HB.

It's not sexy, but I like the looks of his track record. If he can add another 12-15 sacks per year from the D line in a more aggressive defense, our secondary should look better instantly.

Errant Hothy
01-20-2009, 12:46 PM
At first glance and looking at how the Bills defense fared this season I am not overtly impressed.

Would've been real great has they been able to lure the Giant's DL coach away.

With Spagnalo leaving NY, I doubt the Giants wll let anybody from their staff leave for a lateral move.

DiehardChris
01-20-2009, 12:46 PM
Averages 37.5 sacks per year as a line coach? Fine by me. I don't know anything about him.

JWarren14
01-20-2009, 12:49 PM
Posted this on the other DL coach thread:

Bills Website:

20th Year in NFL/3rd with the Bills

COACHING EXPERIENCE: Continues to stress ball pursuit and a penetrating pass-rushing style for the Bills’ defensive line ... Under Kollar, DE Aaron Schobel earned his second Pro Bowl selection following the 2007 season as he led the team with six forced fumbles and tied for the team-lead with eight tackles for loss and set a career-high with 96 tackles; Four of the team’s leaders in tackles-for-loss came on the defensive line (Schobel, DE Chris Kelsay (8), DT Kyle Williams (7) and DT John McCargo (7)) … In his first season with the Bills in 2006, Buffalo’s defensive ends ranked tied for fourth in the NFL with 26.5 sacks … helped Schobel, Kelsay and DE Ryan Denney all post career seasons. Schobel recorded a career-high 14.0 sacks and was voted a starter in the Pro Bowl. He added 95 tackles and led the team with three forced fumbles. Denney recorded career highs with 72 tackles and 6.0 sacks. Kelsay added career highs with 88 tackles and 5.5 sacks. … as the defensive line coach with the St. Louis Rams from 2001-05 his unit quickly emerged as one of the toughest and most relentless front fours in the NFL…in his five years coaching the D-line for St. Louis, he helped DE Leonard Little emerge as a premier sack artist, with 57 sacks in five seasons....prior to his time with the Rams, Kollar served as the defensive line coach for the Atlanta Falcons from 1990-00…in 1998, the Falcons' defensive line tied for the NFL lead by giving up only six rushing touchdowns and set a team record by allowing an average of 75.2 rushing yards as Atlanta won the NFC Championship and earned a trip to Super Bowl XXXIII…began his coaching career as assistant defensive line/special teams coach for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 1984...moved to the University of Illinois to coach the defensive line and special teams (1985-87), then served in the same capacity at Purdue University (1988-89). PLAYING EXPERIENCE: Was a defensive lineman for eight seasons in the NFL... a first-round selection (23rd overall) by Cincinnati in the 1974 NFL draft and played three seasons for the Bengals…moved to Tampa Bay, where he started at every position on the line from 1977-81…played in the 1979 NFC Championship game against the Rams.

PERSONAL: Played college football at Montana State, where he earned an all-America selection and was named the most valuable player in the Senior Bowl…Kollar and his wife, Jan, have two sons, Chad and Clint.


http://www.kffl.com/player/15023/NFL

Supposedly his full name is William Wallace Kollar...anybody want to wear kilts and get painted up if our D-Line becomes a dominant force? Kidding...sort-of

imatexan
01-20-2009, 12:52 PM
Wow read that wrong at first thougt it was another Bill :bat:

Porky
01-20-2009, 12:52 PM
Continues to stress ball pursuit and a penetrating pass-rushing style for the Bills’ defensive line

I have to admit I have never heard of him, but I sure like the style he teaches.

SheTexan
01-20-2009, 12:53 PM
Wow! Kubes really worked his butt off interviewing!:sarcasm:

All I can say is THANK GAWD for some sort of football talk!! I certainly can't comment one way or another on this guy, I know NADDA about position coaches. I just hope Mario, Demeco, and Co. respect him. That's what matters.

TEXANRED
01-20-2009, 12:57 PM
Another non impressive hire. Just went through his 2003-2008 rushing D's and his highest ranking was 20th in 2003.

Does Kubiak not understand that if he fails to improve the D and miss the playoffs yet again, he is going to get canned?

El Tejano
01-20-2009, 12:57 PM
Eh..Well...that's that. He looks like he's done good with some DLs. Maybe their defense has sucked but his DLs have been good. He should go well with Frank Bush.

False Start
01-20-2009, 01:09 PM
Wow read that wrong at first thougt it was another Bill :bat:

Me too. I guess we'll see what the guy can do.

beerlover
01-20-2009, 01:10 PM
good hire. Texans have a nice mix of experience & young ascending coaching. welcome to Houston Mr. Kollar :texan:l

johndoe
01-20-2009, 01:16 PM
from what ive read of Collar, he is respected by his peers. john mcclain seems to love the pickup... however you feel about that

bigbrewster2000
01-20-2009, 01:16 PM
Another non impressive hire. Just went through his 2003-2008 rushing D's and his highest ranking was 20th in 2003.

Does Kubiak not understand that if he fails to improve the D and miss the playoffs yet again, he is going to get canned?

Had we hired him to be the DC that would piss me off, but since he seems to get career numbers across the board from the Dline players and the fact that he is aggressive, Im fine with it.

bigbrewster2000
01-20-2009, 01:17 PM
We need to merge these threads........

Thorn
01-20-2009, 01:21 PM
I have to admit I have never heard of him, but I sure like the style he teaches.

Exactly what I was thinking......

johndoe
01-20-2009, 01:25 PM
i think the most excited person right now should be Amobi Okoye. no more read and react...hopefully:splits:

HoustonFrog
01-20-2009, 01:26 PM
I'm confused..I didn't see Denver on his resume:)

In all seriousness I haven't heard of him but his work looks good.

b0ng
01-20-2009, 01:29 PM
I'm confused..I didn't see Denver on his resume:)

In all seriousness I haven't heard of him but his work looks good.

Honestly, when I was reading his resume, that was the only thing I was looking for.

johndoe
01-20-2009, 01:30 PM
[QUOTE=HoustonFrog;1102276]I'm confused..I didn't see Denver on his resume:)

In all seriousness I haven't heard of him but his work looks good.[/QUOT

marinelli was the first choice but, i think Collar is close second!!!

b0ng
01-20-2009, 01:41 PM
Another non impressive hire. Just went through his 2003-2008 rushing D's and his highest ranking was 20th in 2003.

Does Kubiak not understand that if he fails to improve the D and miss the playoffs yet again, he is going to get canned?

Yeah man this hire is totally gonna sink him.

DiehardChris
01-20-2009, 01:52 PM
I don't understand the mentality about how this isn't a "sexy" or impressive pick. It's a defensive line coach. Who would be a sexy, high-profile choice that could realistically be hired as nothing more than a position coach? Marinelli was that guy, but he was always going to Chicago... so who would you have preferred?

TexansFanatic
01-20-2009, 01:56 PM
I have to admit I have never heard of him, but I sure like the style he teaches.

Exactly right. No more hesitation waiting for the play to develop. Get after the ball carrier! Get after the QB!

PHAROAH
01-20-2009, 02:13 PM
Come on guys the guy is solid this all depends on DC Frank Bush scheme and how he coordinate it. If Frank scheme is anything like Arizona's blitz scheme that his good Friend Clancy Pendergast is running we should be a ok.

Specnatz
01-20-2009, 02:21 PM
Another non impressive hire. Just went through his 2003-2008 rushing D's and his highest ranking was 20th in 2003.

Does Kubiak not understand that if he fails to improve the D and miss the playoffs yet again, he is going to get canned?

So who would you have gotten that is available? I mean, I will be honest I have no clue as to who the hell is a good or a bad D-Line coach. Obviously you do so please educate me on D-Line coaches so I am more informed.

By the way, I would take an educated guess that Kubiak is very much aware of what this next season means since he just fired 3 coaches and S&C coaches who was and is the greatest S&C to ever walk this earth (according to RJ).

rush2112mn
01-20-2009, 02:23 PM
Lets see what this guy can do before we pass judgement on him....

Rozelle
01-20-2009, 02:28 PM
Bill Kollar is a good hire, lots of experience. Buffalo could have blocked the move and didn't. :hmmm:

eriadoc
01-20-2009, 02:29 PM
Most coaches are unknown, until they're known, if you take my point. So many posters on here want the big fancy hire, but really, the big fancy hires were no one until they got to prove it somewhere. And sometimes, after they prove it, they go back to mediocrity. Coaching has so much to do with so many factors that one guy can be good somewhere and miserable elsewhere.

Frank Bush had input on this decision, I'm sure, so we'll find out what happens.

hookinreds
01-20-2009, 02:30 PM
Link
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6220659.html

FYI, no Denver connection.


During his 19 seasons as a defensive line coach, Kollar has worked for head coaches Jerry Glanville, June Jones, Dan Reeves, Mike Martz and Dick Jauron.

I think that Reeves guy did something in Denver once. While it starts to border the six degrees of separation game...mix that with Bush's expressed desire to have a Glanville type attitude, you get a Denver connection and a commonality with what I'm sure the FO/Bush wanted to hear.

mancunian
01-20-2009, 02:30 PM
Good point PHAROAH, I think we need to see how all the coaching bits fit together.

eriadoc
01-20-2009, 02:34 PM
Well, we're starting to temper the overt Denver connection with a bunch of old Oiler connections.

I think I prefer Denver.

Rozelle
01-20-2009, 02:38 PM
Most coaches are unknown, until they're known, if you take my point. So many posters on here want the big fancy hire, but really, the big fancy hires were no one until they got to prove it somewhere. And sometimes, after they prove it, they go back to mediocrity. Coaching has so much to do with so many factors that one guy can be good somewhere and miserable elsewhere.

Frank Bush had input on this decision, I'm sure, so we'll find out what happens.


To me this is a big fancy hire for DL coach. Kollar is well-respected, his coaching style may ruffle some feathers with under achievers...

Rams | Kennedy happier now that Kollar has moved on
Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:55:33 -0700

Bill Coats, of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, reports St. Louis Rams DT Jimmy Kennedy is happier these days now that defensive line coach Bill Kollar has moved on. "It's a different environment," Kennedy said. "When you love coming to work every day, it just makes your job that much more fun." His play didn't support his status as a first-round draft choice, due at least to some degree to his oil-and-water relationship with the leather-lunged Kollar. "I'm not bashing the guy, because I know what he was trying to get out of me," Kennedy said. "But his teaching technique isn't for everyone." New defensive coordinator Jim Haslett has been happy with Kennedy so far. "The guy works hard, and he has more speed than I realized. He's smart, he doesn't make a lot of mistakes, and he listens, said Haslett. He's going to be a heck of a player." Nose tackle is a new position for Kennedy and the learning process for him is well underway.

TexansSeminole
01-20-2009, 02:41 PM
To me this is a big fancy hire for DL coach. Kollar is well-respected, his coaching style may ruffle some feathers with under achievers...

Rams | Kennedy happier now that Kollar has moved on
Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:55:33 -0700

Bill Coats, of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, reports St. Louis Rams DT Jimmy Kennedy is happier these days now that defensive line coach Bill Kollar has moved on. "It's a different environment," Kennedy said. "When you love coming to work every day, it just makes your job that much more fun." His play didn't support his status as a first-round draft choice, due at least to some degree to his oil-and-water relationship with the leather-lunged Kollar. "I'm not bashing the guy, because I know what he was trying to get out of me," Kennedy said. "But his teaching technique isn't for everyone." New defensive coordinator Jim Haslett has been happy with Kennedy so far. "The guy works hard, and he has more speed than I realized. He's smart, he doesn't make a lot of mistakes, and he listens, said Haslett. He's going to be a heck of a player." Nose tackle is a new position for Kennedy and the learning process for him is well underway.

In the 2006 season Kennedy had 39 tackles and 1 sack. In the two seasond since then he has had a combined 9 tackles and 1 sack on 3 different teams.

drewmar74
01-20-2009, 02:57 PM
In the 2006 season Kennedy had 39 tackles and 1 sack. In the two seasond since then he has had a combined 9 tackles and 1 sack on 3 different teams.

Great research.

Makes you wonder....

The Pencil Neck
01-20-2009, 03:00 PM
After reading his resume from the Bill's site that was posted in the other thread...

I think this is an excellent hire. I'm surprised we got the guy.

hookinreds
01-20-2009, 03:01 PM
To me this is a big fancy hire for DL coach. Kollar is well-respected, his coaching style may ruffle some feathers with under achievers...

Rams | Kennedy happier now that Kollar has moved on
Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:55:33 -0700

Bill Coats, of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, reports St. Louis Rams DT Jimmy Kennedy is happier these days now that defensive line coach Bill Kollar has moved on. "It's a different environment," Kennedy said. "When you love coming to work every day, it just makes your job that much more fun." His play didn't support his status as a first-round draft choice, due at least to some degree to his oil-and-water relationship with the leather-lunged Kollar. "I'm not bashing the guy, because I know what he was trying to get out of me," Kennedy said. "But his teaching technique isn't for everyone." New defensive coordinator Jim Haslett has been happy with Kennedy so far. "The guy works hard, and he has more speed than I realized. He's smart, he doesn't make a lot of mistakes, and he listens, said Haslett. He's going to be a heck of a player." Nose tackle is a new position for Kennedy and the learning process for him is well underway.

Good to see he has an eye for talent...or lack thereof. Kennedy was flop and I hope he watches some film and puts targets on some backs and goes to town.

TEXANS84
01-20-2009, 03:02 PM
I'm just personally glad to see no connection to Denver/family of staff whatsoever.

Honoring Earl 34
01-20-2009, 03:03 PM
In the 2006 season Kennedy had 39 tackles and 1 sack. In the two seasond since then he has had a combined 9 tackles and 1 sack on 3 different teams.

Kennedy isn't exactly a go getter .

hookinreds
01-20-2009, 03:05 PM
I'm just personally glad to see no connection to Denver/family of staff whatsoever.

Dan Reeves when he was in ATL....but there is your Denver connection. :-)

Shaft75
01-20-2009, 03:11 PM
See what some of the Buffalo fans say about it here:

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2009/1/20/728934/kollar-to-texans

Some of them think that the talent is found by the actual position coach! Anyways, after reading that I think that if he can get production out of some of the guys that they had on their d-line, then he can get 10x more out of our guys.

I can't wait to see what he thinks about Travis Johnson.

Honoring Earl 34
01-20-2009, 03:15 PM
[QUOTE=Shaft75;1102418]See what some of the Buffalo fans say about it here:

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2009/1/20/728934/kollar-to-texans

Some of them think that the talent is found by the actual position coach! Anyways, after reading that I think that if he can get production out of some of the guys that they had on their d-line, then he can get 10x more out of our guys.

I can't wait to see what he thinks about Travis Johnson.[/QUOTE

I'm betting Deljaun and Buhlman don't complain .

Shaft75
01-20-2009, 03:15 PM
Also...

It seems as though from reading their posts that the Buffalo fans think that we had to give him some good money to come down here.

If so... Thanks for stepping up to the plate Mr. McNair!!!

:tiphat:

Specnatz
01-20-2009, 03:16 PM
Dan Reeves when he was in ATL....but there is your Denver connection. :-)

That's Just Mean!

LZ
01-20-2009, 03:17 PM
I love this hire. My dad coached with him for a year in Buffalo and he fits what Frank Bush wants to do.

http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootball/2009/01/bill_kollar_hes_whats_for_defe.html

Jackie Chiles
01-20-2009, 03:22 PM
Lance, do you think this hire and the new defensive scheme could impact Travis Johnson's game much? Also, what round is Hood projected to go?

drewmar74
01-20-2009, 03:22 PM
Thanks for the feedback, Lance.

Think he can make TJ and AO work? Would they suit what "Killer" Kollar wants to see in his DT's?

GP
01-20-2009, 03:25 PM
See what some of the Buffalo fans say about it here:

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2009/1/20/728934/kollar-to-texans

Some of them think that the talent is found by the actual position coach! Anyways, after reading that I think that if he can get production out of some of the guys that they had on their d-line, then he can get 10x more out of our guys.

I can't wait to see what he thinks about Travis Johnson.

You read my mind. Beat me to it!

Now we'll see if TJ can take it to the next level (as if it could have been a coaching style) or if he's just average (his talent level).

I keep rooting for TJ. He's gotta' be more than a large body holding the gap.

Blake
01-20-2009, 03:27 PM
So in your mind we will be targeting one of the following?

DT BJ Raji
DE Aaron Maybin
DE Everette Brown
DE Brian Orakpo
DE Michael Johnson

m5kwatts
01-20-2009, 03:36 PM
So in your mind we will be targeting one of the following?

DT BJ Raji
DE Aaron Maybin
DE Everette Brown
DE Brian Orakpo
DE Michael Johnson

I watched a good chunk of the Senior Bowl practice this morning (it was broadcasted on NFLN) and BJ Raji was wrecking shop. He was unblockable in one on one drills and had a mean streak about him that the coaches there loved. Unfortunately I think his stock is only going to go up and I doubt he'll be there at 15. Aaron Maybin may be too small and probably fits a 3-4 better. Brown, Orakpo and Johnson are all studs and would be excellent.

Texan_in_KS
01-20-2009, 03:36 PM
A bit in line with getting the most out of the players:

http://archive.profootballweekly.com/content/archives/features_1999/falcons_080999.asp

LZ
01-20-2009, 03:36 PM
Lance, do you think this hire and the new defensive scheme could impact Travis Johnson's game much? Also, what round is Hood projected to go?

Johnson could be a backup d-lineman, but they will probably look to go cheaper. Hood is projected to go in the 2nd, but he is helping himself so far.

LZ
01-20-2009, 03:38 PM
Thanks for the feedback, Lance.

Think he can make TJ and AO work? Would they suit what "Killer" Kollar wants to see in his DT's?


Well supposedly Okoye was that kind of DT. Hell, I thought he was coming out of college. If Okoye doesn't get it done and start to show signs of being a factor this next season under Kollar, then it probably won't happen. Amobi just doesn't hold up at the point of attack so you might as well try and play him in gaps.

LZ
01-20-2009, 03:39 PM
So in your mind we will be targeting one of the following?

DT BJ Raji
DE Aaron Maybin
DE Everette Brown
DE Brian Orakpo
DE Michael Johnson

Raji will probably be gone as will Brown, but if not, both guys would probably be priorities with Maybin and Johnson next in line. I'm not sure Orakpo's edge speed is going to have him rated in the top 18 picks to be honest. Scouts in this area like him, but they don't love him as an upper-echelon DE

Hardcore Texan
01-20-2009, 03:44 PM
This all sounds good and gets me excited to think about an aggressive defense to go with our potent offense, we could make a huge jump this year. Of course optimism runs high in the offseason. This year I am going to do my best to remain cautiously optimistic.

However, I do feel much better about the hires on that side of the ball when we read this kind of insider info. Thanks LZ.

Ole Miss Texan
01-20-2009, 03:52 PM
EDIT- please disregard repeat questions as you've answered some already.

Lance, thanks for the link/article! This is great news, I really like this style of play a lot more than the read and react crap. Basically all 4 D-linemen get in the backfield... an then pursue the ball carrier, correct?

This is obviously what Mario and Amobi need to be doing. As far as the other two positions, it seems Travis still has a place and we obviously need another DE.

I've really been high on BJ Raji because he possesses such a great ability to stop the run and rush the passer (complete all around type of DT). Maybe though, this pushes a DT like Peria Jerry up our boards- he and Amobi would be two really good penetrating DTs next to each other.

As far as DE- the top of the draft seems to be littered with these 3-4 OLB mold of guys. Orakpo, Brown, Maybin, etc. Any input on how Bush/Kollar may view the use of 240-260 lbd RDE?

One last question concerns how the LBs are used with this type of DL pressure. It seems to me if all the linemen are getting upfield it could really make offenses do a lot of screens or dump off passes to the RBs or may allow the RB to slip through a crack for big gains. In anycase, does this mean that the LBs will be roaming more or less? Will they be more focused on the RBs or moreso in covage? If some of the top pass rushers are gone would Mauluga, Laurinitis be possibilities? What are the expectations on LB and/or S blitzes?

Thanks again... looks like we got the main pieces in place as far as the coaching staff goes!

Shaft75
01-20-2009, 04:00 PM
Raji will probably be gone as will Brown, but if not, both guys would probably be priorities with Maybin and Johnson next in line. I'm not sure Orakpo's edge speed is going to have him rated in the top 18 picks to be honest. Scouts in this area like him, but they don't love him as an upper-echelon DE

You really think that Raji will be gone in the top 15? How many defensive lineman do you think are going to be taken by the time the Texans pick???
I look for Brown, Johnson and Orakpo to all be gone by 15.

LZ
01-20-2009, 04:01 PM
EDIT- please disregard repeat questions as you've answered some already.

Lance, thanks for the link/article! This is great news, I really like this style of play a lot more than the read and react crap. Basically all 4 D-linemen get in the backfield... an then pursue the ball carrier, correct?

This is obviously what Mario and Amobi need to be doing. As far as the other two positions, it seems Travis still has a place and we obviously need another DE.

I've really been high on BJ Raji because he possesses such a great ability to stop the run and rush the passer (complete all around type of DT). Maybe though, this pushes a DT like Peria Jerry up our boards- he and Amobi would be two really good penetrating DTs next to each other.

As far as DE- the top of the draft seems to be littered with these 3-4 OLB mold of guys. Orakpo, Brown, Maybin, etc. Any input on how Bush/Kollar may view the use of 240-260 lbd RDE?

One last question concerns how the LBs are used with this type of DL pressure. It seems to me if all the linemen are getting upfield it could really make offenses do a lot of screens or dump off passes to the RBs or may allow the RB to slip through a crack for big gains. In anycase, does this mean that the LBs will be roaming more or less? Will they be more focused on the RBs or moreso in covage? If some of the top pass rushers are gone would Mauluga, Laurinitis be possibilities? What are the expectations on LB and/or S blitzes?

Thanks again... looks like we got the main pieces in place as far as the coaching staff goes!


Most Tampa 2 defensive fronts just try and get pressure with their front four and they don't blitz a ton. If they do, they might bring one more, but that is about it. I'm not worried about all this tweener talk regarding DEs who are "too small". The Bears and Bills have both had DEs who played in the 250s so I think it is overblown.

LZ
01-20-2009, 04:02 PM
You really think that Raji will be gone in the top 15? How many defensive lineman do you think are going to be taken by the time the Texans pick???
I look for Brown, Johnson and Orakpo to all be gone by 15.

I'm in the middle of my first mock draft and I have Everette Brown gone to the Packers and Raji is getting ready to come off the board shortly thereafter. I only think 2 or 3 d-linemen at the most will be gone by 15. Johnson and Orakpo's stock might be a little more fluid until April.

Shaft75
01-20-2009, 04:10 PM
I'm in the middle of my first mock draft and I have Everette Brown gone to the Packers and Raji is getting ready to come off the board shortly thereafter. I only think 2 or 3 d-linemen at the most will be gone by 15. Johnson and Orakpo's stock might be a little more fluid until April.


With that being said... Do you think that the Texans will lean towards secondary? I think Davis and Moore will be there. I would think that Gibbs might ask for another young playmaker in the first round. Although, I do think that another beast up front would do wonders for us.

4Texans
01-20-2009, 04:34 PM
Isn't Travis Johnson in a contract year????? Kollar may turn TJ into an All-Pro for '09.:bat: :aggressive:

Shaft75
01-20-2009, 04:39 PM
Isn't Travis Johnson in a contract year????? Kollar may turn TJ into an All-Pro for '09.:bat: :aggressive:

Is that possible???

The Travis Johnson that I watched doesn't have an all-pro bone in his body. He gets beat off of the line, driven into the second level and never gets to the qb.

dalemurphy
01-20-2009, 04:42 PM
Is that possible???

The Travis Johnson that I watched doesn't have an all-pro bone in his body. He gets beat off of the line, driven into the second level and never gets to the qb.


True, but he was playing out of position- or, at least, he was being asked to do very different things than he will now. So, given that the guy has some talent and intensity, there's at least hope that we'll see a much better player going forward.

idymoe
01-20-2009, 04:42 PM
LZ, thanks for sharing. If the Texans move to having the DL mostly go for penetration, would they then want a bigger middle linebacker like Maualuga or Laurainitis, who should be better able to shed blocks than Ryans? I think Ryans would be just as good outside as he has inside in the scheme they've had.

Brando
01-20-2009, 04:47 PM
I love this hire. My dad coached with him for a year in Buffalo and he fits what Frank Bush wants to do.

http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootball/2009/01/bill_kollar_hes_whats_for_defe.html
Cool! Thanks for the comment and your blog. I admit I don't know much about the guy so your knowledge is very helpful.

IlliniJen
01-20-2009, 05:14 PM
Another uninspired "meh" defensive coaching move by the Texans.

Why do I feel like the Texans are resigned to getting the folks who are in the middle of their class rather than at the top?

Texans_Chick
01-20-2009, 05:19 PM
Another uninspired "meh" defensive coaching move by the Texans.

Why do I feel like the Texans are resigned to getting the folks who are in the middle of their class rather than at the top?

Personally, I think that this is a good choice for this particular team.

Guy with a lot of fire, lots of experience, gets the most out of his players, also played the NFL game for a good number of years, has had success in the league. That's the sort of guy a young defensive group can listen to.

If someone is a top assistant for a team, it is very very difficult to get them to go somewhere else except for a head coaching job.

I think your expectations are not terribly realistic. Name names. Who would you have liked the Texans to get instead?

Honoring Earl 34
01-20-2009, 05:23 PM
Another uninspired "meh" defensive coaching move by the Texans.

Why do I feel like the Texans are resigned to getting the folks who are in the middle of their class rather than at the top?

You can't wait until Kubiak's kids are old enough to coach can you .... JK .... kinda .

Specnatz
01-20-2009, 05:26 PM
Another uninspired "meh" defensive coaching move by the Texans.

Why do I feel like the Texans are resigned to getting the folks who are in the middle of their class rather than at the top?

Who in your mind is at the top of DL coaches? Since you know so much about DL coaches explain to all of us so as we can know as much as you. The simple reason why you feel like you do is because your blinded by your wanting Kubiak fired.

It is as if we have a bunch of folks on here who just love to piss and moan and not have one bit of information to go a long with it. Oh and one other thing, I have heard repeated comments about Kubiak and Smith doing bad jobs of interviews and research on who would be a good choice or the right choice. With the chrons crack reporting staff how in the hell would we know what Kubiak and Smith has done? RJ is to busy getting his knickers in a bunch and McChin is to busy writing some story that happened 15 years ago.

:headhurts:

TexanSam
01-20-2009, 06:51 PM
I'm guessing Frank Okam is probably out of a job if we're not going to need a big huge guy as a DT...

LZ
01-20-2009, 08:08 PM
With that being said... Do you think that the Texans will lean towards secondary? I think Davis and Moore will be there. I would think that Gibbs might ask for another young playmaker in the first round. Although, I do think that another beast up front would do wonders for us.


Unless they plan on giving up on either Dunta, Molden or Bennett, I can't see them considering a CB and I don't really see a safety there I would take at 15.

LZ
01-20-2009, 08:09 PM
LZ, thanks for sharing. If the Texans move to having the DL mostly go for penetration, would they then want a bigger middle linebacker like Maualuga or Laurainitis, who should be better able to shed blocks than Ryans? I think Ryans would be just as good outside as he has inside in the scheme they've had.

You would think that a team would want a bigger LB, but the Colts, Bears and Bucs have all played with speed at that position.

Texans_Chick
01-20-2009, 08:21 PM
Interesting point that a commenter made in my blog post about the subject (http://blogs.chron.com/texanschick/2009/01/bill_kollar_hired_as_texans_as.html):

The link is that GM Rick Smith played for Purdue when Kollar was coaching at Purdue.

See, you can't just look for relatives and Bronco connections. You also have to look for Purdue and Colorado State. :cool:

(All that being said, I think this is a good hire for this team).

Marcus
01-20-2009, 08:24 PM
Does Kubiak not understand that if he fails to improve the D and miss the playoffs yet again, he is going to get canned?

He's a head coach in the NFL. He knows he's going to get canned eventually no matter what he does, so I really don't think he spends any more than two seconds out of the day worrying about it.

Marcus
01-20-2009, 08:30 PM
Who in your mind is at the top of DL coaches? Since you know so much about DL coaches explain to all of us so as we can know as much as you. The simple reason why you feel like you do is because your blinded by your wanting Kubiak fired.

It is as if we have a bunch of folks on here who just love to piss and moan and not have one bit of information to go a long with it. Oh and one other thing, I have heard repeated comments about Kubiak and Smith doing bad jobs of interviews and research on who would be a good choice or the right choice. With the chrons crack reporting staff how in the hell would we know what Kubiak and Smith has done? RJ is to busy getting his knickers in a bunch and McChin is to busy writing some story that happened 15 years ago.

:headhurts:

That . . was a 1st round knockout. Rep that muff-hugga! :muscles:

IlliniJen
01-20-2009, 08:33 PM
Who in your mind is at the top of DL coaches? Since you know so much about DL coaches explain to all of us so as we can know as much as you. The simple reason why you feel like you do is because your blinded by your wanting Kubiak fired.

It is as if we have a bunch of folks on here who just love to piss and moan and not have one bit of information to go a long with it. Oh and one other thing, I have heard repeated comments about Kubiak and Smith doing bad jobs of interviews and research on who would be a good choice or the right choice. With the chrons crack reporting staff how in the hell would we know what Kubiak and Smith has done? RJ is to busy getting his knickers in a bunch and McChin is to busy writing some story that happened 15 years ago.

:headhurts:

Simmer down, Sally. I personally don't like the hire, period. I'm allowed to have MY OWN OPINION, right?

Believe it or not, my not liking this hire has nothing to do with my believing Kubiak should be fired. I ****ing don't like the hire, period.

I'm sick of people thinking that those who want Kubiak gone are just "pissing and moaning." I want nothing but the best for the Texans.

The Pencil Neck
01-20-2009, 08:55 PM
Simmer down, Sally. I personally don't like the hire, period. I'm allowed to have MY OWN OPINION, right?

Believe it or not, my not liking this hire has nothing to do with my believing Kubiak should be fired. I ****ing don't like the hire, period.

I'm sick of people thinking that those who want Kubiak gone are just "pissing and moaning." I want nothing but the best for the Texans.

You have my permission to be wrong.



:jk:

IlliniJen
01-20-2009, 09:02 PM
You have my permission to be wrong.



:jk:

I hope I am wrong.

Like I said, I want nothing but the best for the Texans. If that means the coaching staff turns it up next season and turns us into winners, then GREAT.

I would be a ****ing i d i o t, full of hubris, if I only cared about being right instead of wanting to see this team in the playoffs and beyond.

rollinstone18
01-20-2009, 09:09 PM
After listening to the press conference, I already like Kollar. Reminds me of my friend who throws in a "and shit" in conversation.

Rozelle
01-20-2009, 09:11 PM
Another uninspired "meh" defensive coaching move by the Texans.

Why do I feel like the Texans are resigned to getting the folks who are in the middle of their class rather than at the top?

Not trying to be a wise guy here, just curious who you consider to be at the top of the class in terms of DL coaches.

Texans_Chick
01-20-2009, 09:12 PM
Simmer down, Sally. I personally don't like the hire, period. I'm allowed to have MY OWN OPINION, right?

Believe it or not, my not liking this hire has nothing to do with my believing Kubiak should be fired. I ****ing don't like the hire, period.

I'm sick of people thinking that those who want Kubiak gone are just "pissing and moaning." I want nothing but the best for the Texans.

Okay, you don't like the hire, period.

Who would you have preferred for the Texans to sign instead, question mark?

As I mentioned, most consistently productive position coaches are retained by their teams or go on to become head coaches or are fired head coaches who might be better position coaches.

All things considered and for what this Texans team needs, this seems to be a pretty good hire.

b0ng
01-20-2009, 09:36 PM
Simmer down, Sally. I personally don't like the hire, period. I'm allowed to have MY OWN OPINION, right?

Believe it or not, my not liking this hire has nothing to do with my believing Kubiak should be fired. I ****ing don't like the hire, period.

I'm sick of people thinking that those who want Kubiak gone are just "pissing and moaning." I want nothing but the best for the Texans.

You still have yet to lay out exactly why you don't like this hire and what names you wanted to be brought in.

Pantherstang84
01-20-2009, 09:44 PM
After listening to the press conference, I already like Kollar. Reminds me of my friend who throws in a "and shit" in conversation.

Exactly. Gibb's comment about Kollar having too many 1st rounders was pretty funny too.

Pantherstang84
01-20-2009, 09:44 PM
You still have yet to lay out exactly why you don't like this hire and what names you wanted to be brought in.

Not gonna happen. Some people are just stone throwers.

TEXANRED
01-20-2009, 09:47 PM
So who would you have gotten that is available? I mean, I will be honest I have no clue as to who the hell is a good or a bad D-Line coach. Obviously you do so please educate me on D-Line coaches so I am more informed.

By the way, I would take an educated guess that Kubiak is very much aware of what this next season means since he just fired 3 coaches and S&C coaches who was and is the greatest S&C to ever walk this earth (according to RJ).

Well I would of educated you but you just said that you wouldn't know one way or the other so me dropping any kind of knowledge would be a waste.

8 years was the last time that he has had a DLine unit that was stout against the run. 8. his rankings, from newest to oldest, 22, 25, 28, 29, 20, 14, 3, 13, 29, 2, 8, 26, 9, 14, 15, 28, 23, 3.

I hate to bring it to everyones attention but stopping the run is the key to winning this division. Chris Johnson, LenWhale White, MJD, Taylor, Addia.

Lets also not forget that Young isn't going to sit on the sideline forever and its not like he forgot how to run and throw the ball. And David Garrard has done a pretty good job on us as well.

Its not rocket science, its football. Stop the run, make them one dimensional and they will be forced to pass. That is when you can go and get your sacks.

IlliniJen
01-20-2009, 10:15 PM
Okay, you don't like the hire, period.

Who would you have preferred for the Texans to sign instead, question mark?

As I mentioned, most consistently productive position coaches are retained by their teams or go on to become head coaches or are fired head coaches who might be better position coaches.

All things considered and for what this Texans team needs, this seems to be a pretty good hire.

I don't know if he's still available, but I think Seattle has had an underrated defense for a couple years now and Dwaine Board might have been a good fit given his past years as a DE and potential to make Mario even more dangerous.

I think we'd be better equipped to get to the QB, but I'm not really impressed with his run stopping stats. But compared to Buffalo, they were statically better.

DocBar
01-20-2009, 10:29 PM
Good catch, HB.

It's not sexy, but I like the looks of his track record. If he can add another 12-15 sacks per year from the D line in a more aggressive defense, our secondary should look better instantly.
If we could just about DOUBLE our sacks from the DL, look out Super Bowl!! Hell, I bet Petey could get to the Pro Bowl with a DL that got 30+ sacks. I'll faint the 1st time I see our DL get constant pressure on ANY QB with ANY line in front of him.
Posted this on the other DL coach thread:

Bills Website:



http://www.kffl.com/player/15023/NFL

Supposedly his full name is William Wallace Kollar...anybody want to wear kilts and get painted up if our D-Line becomes a dominant force? Kidding...sort-ofI'm REALLY trying to resist the urge to type FREEDOM in the biggest size possible. If someone on our DL NOT name Mario Williams can get double digit sacks, I'll wear a damned bikini to a game. It'll get pretty embarassing for all parties involved, but I'll do it.

I watched a good chunk of the Senior Bowl practice this morning (it was broadcasted on NFLN) and BJ Raji was wrecking shop. He was unblockable in one on one drills and had a mean streak about him that the coaches there loved. Unfortunately I think his stock is only going to go up and I doubt he'll be there at 15. Aaron Maybin may be too small and probably fits a 3-4 better. Brown, Orakpo and Johnson are all studs and would be excellent. Maybe we have a trade in place with Buffalo since we took their awful DL coach off their hands...One mans trash is another mans treasure...

In all seriousness, I like the hire. I won't start bashing anyone til I see the product on the field. An aggressive, attacking D has the chance to get birned, but also has the chance to make game changing plays. What we've had the last few years is a passive D that gets burned more often than microwave popcorn and game changing plays were as rare as a hens tooth. I'm all for the aggressive approach. If we want sexy coaches, give the cheerleades a whistle. I whistle at them every time I see them.

gtexan02
01-20-2009, 10:42 PM
When listening to this and Frank Bush talk about attacking and aggression, it really got me thinking about how much our offensive identity has changed.

Before Kubes, we had a very conservative "run, run, pass punt" offense.
Kubes came in and shook things up. We turn the ball over more now, but we move it much more effectively

I wonder if we're seeing a similar pattern with the D.
We could b egoing from conservative to aggressive, which will mean more turnovers and more big plays

thunderkyss
01-20-2009, 10:43 PM
I don't know the guy. Never heard his name before today. When I read that he was Buffalo's DL coach, I was impressed.

I don't know how they've done in recent years against the run, or what their sack totals were for the last 3 or 4 years. But if he's the guy that helped Aaron Schoebel get double digit sacks in '05 & '06, I'm down with it.

I've watched a little bit of Schoebel for the last few years, and the guy seems to really understands the game, he sets up his opponent, and he uses a variety of techniques to beat him.

I hate that our guys seem to not be prepared for the teams we play. They don't seem to understand tendencies.... they don't sniff out screens... they get pushed inside on runs to the outside, and outside on runs to the inside, running backs run past them, as they try to get to the QB.

If Koller can teach our boys how to prepare for games, I'll be happy.

ArlingtonTexan
01-21-2009, 12:14 AM
There is some funny stuff goin' on in this thread. When it comes to position coaches even the football nerdiest of us have no real idea if it is a good or bad hire. We basically have a handful of things to guide us:

1) Experience we like or don't like.
2) the general performance of a side (defense in this case) of the ball
3) a media member who claims to know
4) some sort of name recognition (former player, related to someone, etc)
5) an interview with the press

Outside of that we literally have no clue as to who is a good position coach or not. I mean how many of us w/o looking can name the Texans WR coach much less 5 DL coaches from around the league. And even if you can do you really know what type of job each is doing?

Thanks to those who have done some version of I don't know or I will just wait and see, because that is the truth.

D-ReK
01-21-2009, 01:10 AM
Add me to the list of those who like this hire. Travis Johnson, Deljuan Robinson, and Amobi Okoye are all guys who should benefit from this hire since Kollar preaches penetration and that is supposed to be their strong-suits. On top of that, he's described as a motivator and may be able to reach Johnson in a way that Jethro wasn't able to. Ultimately we're going to have to wait and see on this one, just like any other hire, but there is definite reason to be optimistic.

mexican_texan
01-21-2009, 01:24 AM
It's quite interesting he was named assistant head coach as well, rather than defensive assistant or a title like that.

Anyway, in 2006, the Bills got an extra pick in the 5th round and picked up Kyle Williams. Kollar turned him into a pretty good DT. Anyone wanna guess how they got that extra pick?

D-ReK
01-21-2009, 01:40 AM
It's quite interesting he was named assistant head coach as well, rather than defensive assistant or a title like that.

Anyway, in 2006, the Bills got an extra pick in the 5th round and picked up Kyle Williams. Kollar turned him into a pretty good DT. Anyone wanna guess how they got that extra pick?

I'm thinking the AHC title was so that we could get him without Buffalo blocking him from coming over.

I'm pretty sure they got Williams with the pick we traded them for Moulds. Looks like that worked out pretty well for them.

mussop
01-21-2009, 07:00 AM
This from LZ (http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootball/2009/01/bill_kollar_hes_whats_for_defe.html)

Bill Kollar: He's what's for defense
If you are wondering what to expect from the Texans new defensive line coach, then wonder no more. He wants his defensive line attacking and getting up the field. Read and react? Give me a break.

Bill Kollar coached under defensive coordinator Lovie Smith in St. Louis and under defensive coordinator Perry Fewell in Buffalo. Fewell coached under Lovie Smith in Chicago and Lovie is from the Tony Dungy school of defense. What does that all mean?

Bill Kollar's defensive lines are going to shoot the gaps, play with a tremendous motor and do everything in their power to disrupt without having to run twists all day. Look for the Texans to upgrade that defensive line somewhat because they aren't exactly built for Kollar's style of coaching just yet. A new defensive end with speed could change all of that.

Kollar's hiring also signals to me that you can throw out the idea that the Texans will be looking for a great big space eater at NT. That isn't going to happen. In fact, guys like "Ziggy" Hood or B.J. Raji would be the type of guys the Texans would look at on the interior and Paul Kruger or Everette Brown would be who they might look for at DE. This isn't Kollar's defense, but his background is explosive edge DEs and high motor DTs



LZ do you really think Raji is a possibility? He is my absolute favorite for #15. Who would you take if Brown and Raji are both still there when we pick?

Lucky
01-21-2009, 07:37 AM
There is some funny stuff goin' on in this thread. When it comes to position coaches even the football nerdiest of us have no real idea if it is a good or bad hire. We basically have a handful of things to guide us:
Don't forget
6) Magic 8-Ball

Magic 8-Ball, will Bill Kollar be a good defensive line coach for the Houston Texans?

http://www.mikepope.com/blog/images/magic8ball.jpg

Specnatz
01-21-2009, 07:45 AM
Well I would of educated you but you just said that you wouldn't know one way or the other so me dropping any kind of knowledge would be a waste.

8 years was the last time that he has had a DLine unit that was stout against the run. 8. his rankings, from newest to oldest, 22, 25, 28, 29, 20, 14, 3, 13, 29, 2, 8, 26, 9, 14, 15, 28, 23, 3.

I hate to bring it to everyones attention but stopping the run is the key to winning this division. Chris Johnson, LenWhale White, MJD, Taylor, Addia.

Lets also not forget that Young isn't going to sit on the sideline forever and its not like he forgot how to run and throw the ball. And David Garrard has done a pretty good job on us as well.

Its not rocket science, its football. Stop the run, make them one dimensional and they will be forced to pass. That is when you can go and get your sacks.

Yeah, stopping the run is so important to winning the division.

Signed,

The 2002 - 2007 Colts

As far as Young goes, he would have to learn how to pass first before he forgets how to.

By the way Tenn is easy to make one dimensional. As we proved to the rest of the league in week 16. The hard part is making a team that has a legit running game and passing game one dimensional.

At least Jen mentioned who she would rather have and for that I respect her and her views. Jen I am not sure that anyone on Seattle's staff is available.

Rozelle
01-21-2009, 07:55 AM
There is some funny stuff goin' on in this thread. When it comes to position coaches even the football nerdiest of us have no real idea if it is a good or bad hire. We basically have a handful of things to guide us:

1) Experience we like or don't like.
2) the general performance of a side (defense in this case) of the ball
3) a media member who claims to know
4) some sort of name recognition (former player, related to someone, etc)
5) an interview with the press

Outside of that we literally have no clue as to who is a good position coach or not. I mean how many of us w/o looking can name the Texans WR coach much less 5 DL coaches from around the league. And even if you can do you really know what type of job each is doing?

Thanks to those who have done some version of I don't know or I will just wait and see, because that is the truth.

True, you never know how everyone will mesh either.
Here's what we do know... Kollar is a well-respected coach in the NFL community and has 19 years experience as a DL coach, you don't get that kind of recognition and time in this league or any other for that matter if your not doing something right.

There is some concern over his D-Lines ability to stop the run thru the years. Five times in the top 10 and three times in the top three with two different teams isn't bad. Let me ask you this...
Do you think it is Karl Dunbar or Kevin and Pat Williams that make Minnesota so tough to run against?

Do you think it is John Mitchell or Dick Lebeau that makes Pittsburgh one of the best defenses in the league year in and year out?


To be a good defense it takes a combination of players, coaches and scheme.

TimeKiller
01-21-2009, 08:17 AM
Brown and Raji? I'd go Raji for his run-stopping and we've got a couple high-effort guys coming off the edge right now in Bulman, Cochran, possibly McClover comes in after his injury and makes some noise. DT we've got TJ, who despite all his physical attributes can't or won't or just doesn't put it together to be a force that he probably could be. We've also got Robinson who was a spark plug but we'll see if he's truly an impact player next year. Hard call because either way you have to cover up guys who are hard working guys.

OzzO
01-21-2009, 09:35 AM
OP - He may have addressed some of your questions in this thread (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58000)(others asked), starting around post 47 or so.

GP
01-21-2009, 09:59 AM
I hope I am wrong.

Like I said, I want nothing but the best for the Texans. If that means the coaching staff turns it up next season and turns us into winners, then GREAT.

I would be a ****ing i d i o t, full of hubris, if I only cared about being right instead of wanting to see this team in the playoffs and beyond.

I can sympathize. I've been a rut, in the past, where I can go several months just seething about some aspect of the team. I might not have the answer, or the name of "a guy," in order to back up what I feel...but it's the situation itself and the idea that even if I "trust" the direction of the team, I'm still not sure it's going to work out well.

People need to realize that just the pure and simple act of firing Richard Smith is like gobbling up a power pill in PacMan. It's going to do wonders, especially in the first half of the season (the spot we have typically seen a dropoff in defensive ability and skill).

Is our defensive staff a bunch of world beaters? Probably not, but they could become a good unit if things come together. And maybe Richard Smith was the thing that held back the maturation of the defense.

I am just glad Richard Smith is gone. Wish him well, and all that, but the time was two years past due, IMO. Now let's see what 2009 holds.

Errant Hothy
01-21-2009, 10:25 AM
Some nice quotes from the local fish wrap"
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6222073.html

Kollar was asked about defensive end Mario Williams, who is starting in the Pro Bowl.

“Obviously, Mario’s a heck of a player,” he said. “He’s got unlimited ability. We’re hoping to really end up getting him to playing at his max.”

Kollar was asked what he could do to turn around defensive tackle Amobi Okoye, whose performance dropped from his rookie season. Okoye is best suited for the style the Texans will play under Bush and Kollar.

“(I’ll) stay on him and keep working on technique and get him to play,” Kollar said. “Really, everybody’s the same. You have to play full speed every play.”

Bills defensive linemen said Kollar was fanatical about his linemen running full speed to the ball — no matter where it was.

“That’s the way we’re going to end up working them here,” Kollar said. “The thing is, you have to do it in practice, also. You just can’t say, ‘Well, I’m going to do it in the game,’ and that’s it.”

I think I love the idea that Kollar does not think Mario is at his max yet!

dalemurphy
01-21-2009, 10:35 AM
The entire mini-press conference of Kollar and Gibbs is at houstontexans.com:
here's the link: houstontexans.com/index2.html

Kollar is an impressive man, IMO. I loved what he said about effort.

"If you're on the field, you must go 100% every play. If you're tired, get off the field and we'll get someone else in there. We won't have guys playing 50-60 plays if they get tired and can't give 100% on all of them."- a bit of a paraphrase

He'll get you excited about football. Go watch it!

BigBull17
01-21-2009, 12:12 PM
Some nice quotes from the local fish wrap"
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6222073.html



I think I love the idea that Kollar does not think Mario is at his max yet!

That was one of my reasons for wanting Franklin fired. Mario was good, but he hasnt really learned anything in the NFL. He didnt develope much, IMO.

TexanSam
01-21-2009, 12:20 PM
I wonder how his hiring will affect the defensive line rotation. It was a little weird and frustating seeing the Texans rotate so many D-linemen this season. Mario was the only constant on the line. Bulman, Nading, Weaver, Cochran, and Deljuan Robinson were constantly running back and forth from the sideline to the playing field. I wonder if that had anything to do with Jethro Franklin being fired?

Errant Hothy
01-21-2009, 12:27 PM
I wonder how his hiring will affect the defensive line rotation. It was a little weird and frustating seeing the Texans rotate so many D-linemen this season. Mario was the only constant on the line. Bulman, Nading, Weaver, Cochran, and Deljuan Robinson were constantly running back and forth from the sideline to the playing field. I wonder if that had anything to do with Jethro Franklin being fired?

D-line rotate more then any positon in football. They do it to keep fresh guys attacking on the line.

Why is seeing the rotation frustrating?

Wolf
01-21-2009, 01:15 PM
"Coach Jauron had said when we first got there that he wouldn't hold anybody back if it was a move that you really wanted to mak, and it was nice of him to give me that opportunity. They had to square it with the GM, Russ Brandon, and Ralph Wilson, and it went on for quite a while. It wasn't like it was a one-day deal. The Texans had been working on it for over a week and it finally came to be the other day."

Asked why he wanted to leave, Kollar said, "I just thought it was a great opportunity to come down to be with an offense like they’ve got here. Hopefully—it’s always the same thing—you always want to get to the playoffs and hopefully end up making it to the Super Bowl, and I thought this would be a great opportunity."

http://blogs.buffalonews.com/billboard/2009/01/kollar-quotes.html



Gotta love Kollar's quote about wanting to work with an offense like that! (He was referring to the Texans who noone will ever misstake for the Pats with Brady or the Colts......) That really tells you how bad he thinks the Bills' O really is! No worries, Mauron will fix it by getting more involved in calling plays in 2009 since he did so well in 2008 at calling plays!
In reality, I am sure Kollar wanted to go and work with some real talented D Lineman in Houston rather than the 3 farmboy ends he had in Buffalo who don't scare anyone!

Posted by: matt | January 20, 2009 at 09:10 PM

TimeKiller
01-21-2009, 01:41 PM
I think I love the idea that Kollar does not think Mario is at his max yet!
That was one of my reasons for wanting Franklin fired. Mario was good, but he hasnt really learned anything in the NFL. He didnt develope much, IMO.
Or Okoye....

Or Johnson...

Weaver got worse....

Pretty much the only people who "improved" were the 100% effort all the time guys. Cochran, Bulman, Robinson.

barrett
01-21-2009, 04:39 PM
The entire mini-press conference of Kollar and Gibbs is at houstontexans.com:
here's the link: houstontexans.com/index2.html

Kollar is an impressive man, IMO. I loved what he said about effort.

"If you're on the field, you must go 100% every play. If you're tired, get off the field and we'll get someone else in there. We won't have guys playing 50-60 plays if they get tired and can't give 100% on all of them."- a bit of a paraphrase

He'll get you excited about football. Go watch it!


... and stuff.

First nickname: Bill "n' stuff" Kollar

the "SACK THE G0DDAMNED QB N' STUFF!! DEFENSE"

go Texans.

barrett
01-21-2009, 04:52 PM
I hate that our guys seem to not be prepared for the teams we play. They don't seem to understand tendencies.... they don't sniff out screens... they get pushed inside on runs to the outside, and outside on runs to the inside, running backs run past them, as they try to get to the QB.

If Koller can teach our boys how to prepare for games, I'll be happy.

no doubt. excellent point. i totally agree.

mexican_texan
01-21-2009, 11:44 PM
That was one of my reasons for wanting Franklin fired. Mario was good, but he hasnt really learned anything in the NFL. He didnt develope much, IMO.
I agree with you to a certain extent, Mario picked up a lot of techniques, but he maxed out under Franklin, it seemed. I didn't see much of a difference from his 2nd year to his 3rd, other than consistency. Amobi's been regressing, hopefully Kollar will fix that right up.

D-ReK
01-22-2009, 11:15 AM
I've been trying to figure out how exactly our defense is going to look this coming season and it seems schematically, we're going to have a huge deficiency against the run. Kollar and Bush seem to want our DL to focus on rushing the passer which is fine and dandy, but with Okoye and Travis Johnson not being strong at the point of attack and both getting pushed around too easily and the advent of a scheme that may preclude us from getting a new DT who can hold up blockers and maybe push some interior OL back, are we destined to maintain, or even worsen, our 23rd ranked rush D?

Furthermore, given the scheme, what can we do to improve our rush D? Since we're going for the undersized, speedy route in our front 7, are we going to require our safeties to play closer to the line, which will leave our CBs on an island with little to no deep help? Isn't this part of the problem that led to us giving up so many big plays this past season, or were our safeties just missing assignments? Will the plan be to simply build up a big early lead and force the opponent to abandon the run? Just curious. It is the offseason after all...

Brandon420tx
01-22-2009, 11:30 AM
Well, Okam has quicker feet than alot of people on here give him credit for. I was under the impression that we drafted him for his ability to take out ball carriers behind the line and I expect him to go for that at the NT spot this year. I think he'll get an increased role about halfway through the season as he's coached up and I think we spend the 1st pick on a LB (or hopefully a tradeback)

InterestedJeff
01-22-2009, 11:40 AM
I'm on board with the hire. I never heard of him untill he landed here but after hearing his interview I liked what he had to say. Hopefully he is able to translate his obvious passion to onfield production for us. One thing I love is that he seems to piss fire and eat nails. Thats the kind of coach our youngins on the DLine need.

painekiller
01-22-2009, 11:46 AM
I've been trying to figure out how exactly our defense is going to look this coming season and it seems schematically, we're going to have a huge deficiency against the run. Kollar and Bush seem to want our DL to focus on rushing the passer which is fine and dandy, but with Okoye and Travis Johnson not being strong at the point of attack and both getting pushed around too easily and the advent of a scheme that may preclude us from getting a new DT who can hold up blockers and maybe push some interior OL back, are we destined to maintain, or even worsen, our 23rd ranked rush D?

Furthermore, given the scheme, what can we do to improve our rush D? Since we're going for the undersized, speedy route in our front 7, are we going to require our safeties to play closer to the line, which will leave our CBs on an island with little to no deep help? Isn't this part of the problem that led to us giving up so many big plays this past season, or were our safeties just missing assignments? Will the plan be to simply build up a big early lead and force the opponent to abandon the run? Just curious. It is the offseason after all...


IMO you have that wrong. Penetration is the #1 enemy of the running game. It disrupts the play before it gets started. When you are undersized you have to use your speed/quickness to get to the runner before he gets started. I think it is the guys on the 4 letter network who preach penetration as the best weapon to all offensive plays.

D-ReK
01-22-2009, 11:52 AM
IMO you have that wrong. Penetration is the #1 enemy of the running game. It disrupts the play before it gets started. When you are undersized you have to use your speed/quickness to get to the runner before he gets started. I think it is the guys on the 4 letter network who preach penetration as the best weapon to all offensive plays.

I understand that, and probably should have included that in my original post. The more I think about it, the more I believe I am jaded to this system since we haven't really been able to get much penetration from our DL in the past and we're largely going to have the same cast of characters going into next year. Hopefully Bush and Kollar are able to collaborate and give birth to a scheme that maximizes the talents of our players.

Polo
01-22-2009, 12:26 PM
I've been trying to figure out how exactly our defense is going to look this coming season and it seems schematically, we're going to have a huge deficiency against the run. Kollar and Bush seem to want our DL to focus on rushing the passer which is fine and dandy, but with Okoye and Travis Johnson not being strong at the point of attack and both getting pushed around too easily and the advent of a scheme that may preclude us from getting a new DT who can hold up blockers and maybe push some interior OL back, are we destined to maintain, or even worsen, our 23rd ranked rush D?

Furthermore, given the scheme, what can we do to improve our rush D? Since we're going for the undersized, speedy route in our front 7, are we going to require our safeties to play closer to the line, which will leave our CBs on an island with little to no deep help? Isn't this part of the problem that led to us giving up so many big plays this past season, or were our safeties just missing assignments? Will the plan be to simply build up a big early lead and force the opponent to abandon the run? Just curious. It is the offseason after all...

Well need better play from the LB's...

At the same time though if we get good penetration it should disrupt a lot of run plays...Misdirections and slower developing run plays will probably hurt us more though

The Pencil Neck
01-22-2009, 01:10 PM
I understand that, and probably should have included that in my original post. The more I think about it, the more I believe I am jaded to this system since we haven't really been able to get much penetration from our DL in the past and we're largely going to have the same cast of characters going into next year. Hopefully Bush and Kollar are able to collaborate and give birth to a scheme that maximizes the talents of our players.

In the game against the Bears, Amobi got some nice penetration.

I think the problem with our guys is that Smith wanted them to pursue from sideline to sideline and play AT the line of scrimmage. When Jethro was on the radio last year before the draft, he said that. He said that TJ was doing a good job because he moved well from sideline to sideline. Smith wanted our Dline to mostly just hold position, identify the play, and then pursue.

And I think that's why Bush went out of his way to say that we weren't doing that any more. He said that he wants our guys to get penetration and he brought in a line coach who apparently believes the same thing.

Now, can they make it work? Dunno. Hope so.

GP
01-22-2009, 02:24 PM
If Kollar is our DL coach, then our DLinemen need to be called the Junk Yard Dogs.

Only the Kollar can contain them.

bckey
01-22-2009, 02:35 PM
I'm on board with the hire. I never heard of him untill he landed here but after hearing his interview I liked what he had to say. Hopefully he is able to translate his obvious passion to onfield production for us. One thing I love is that he seems to piss fire and eat nails. Thats the kind of coach our youngins on the DLine need.

This pretty much sums up how I feel about the hiring of Bill Kollar.

painekiller
01-22-2009, 05:58 PM
IMO you have that wrong. Penetration is the #1 enemy of the running game. It disrupts the play before it gets started. When you are undersized you have to use your speed/quickness to get to the runner before he gets started. I think it is the guys on the 4 letter network who preach penetration as the best weapon to all offensive plays.

The elephant in the room is not the DTs, or Mario. The DL we have is all better when shooting a gap. The thing we lack is LBs that can maintain their lanes. For the penetration to work every lane has to be covered and the guy has to tackle. We need to have athletic LB that can tackle at each LB position.

dalemurphy
01-22-2009, 06:13 PM
The elephant in the room is not the DTs, or Mario. The DL we have is all better when shooting a gap. The thing we lack is LBs that can maintain their lanes. For the penetration to work every lane has to be covered and the guy has to tackle. We need to have athletic LB that can tackle at each LB position.

I think our LB corp is potentially pretty good and quite deep. IMO, we have 5 LBs that are at least decent: Ryans, Adibi, Diles, Bentley, Thompson. There are plenty of athletes in that group and I don't think any of them are a detriment to the team if they're in the game.

I was very pleased with Bentley when he played on defense.

TexansSeminole
01-22-2009, 09:58 PM
I think our LB corp is potentially pretty good and quite deep. IMO, we have 5 LBs that are at least decent: Ryans, Adibi, Diles, Bentley, Thompson. There are plenty of athletes in that group and I don't think any of them are a detriment to the team if they're in the game.

I was very pleased with Bentley when he played on defense.

Bentley exceeded my expectations and he should most definitely be retained for next season. He is a good backup to have on this team, I like him at MLB.

Thompson is a hard player to judge because he simply didn't see the field hardly at all. Hopefully he learned something about playing linebacker in the 4-3 last year, because the concern with him when he first came here was that he played in a 3-4 in Cleveland.

I'd like for the Texans to explore the idea of taking a LB in this draft high and using him at SLB. We need a pass rusher at LB as well as DE. Other than DeMeco, nobody at LB has proven to be able to get at the QB on this team. Adibi got to the QB a few times when he saw PT but he missed the tackles both times I saw him close to a sack. Blitzing isn't his Adibi's strength, his strength is coverage and overall speed.