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beerlover
01-07-2005, 12:33 PM
this may influence who the Texans are targeting with that first pick- Texans sign Ti-Cats DE Cheatwood 6-4 250lbs.


http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/news_story.asp?id=110313

That would be addressing a need on the cheap, more & more looks like the Texans targeting either a Offensive or Defensive Lineman with the first pick :shocked

Errant Hothy
01-07-2005, 12:36 PM
Hate to burst your bubble, but somebody bet you to it.

http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards/showthread.php?t=5253

Vinny
01-07-2005, 12:52 PM
There has been a 2 week old thread on this in the bullpen.

In the off season, teams will be signing all kinds of guys. It's that time of year.

Mistril48
01-07-2005, 02:00 PM
Sometimes a guy they pick up will work out ...

For those who have been around the Texans' boards for longer than me, is this how it started with Armstong? Had anyone spotted him and his potential?

Vinny
01-07-2005, 02:58 PM
yeah, way before. Grizzled (http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards/member.php?userid=1664) was way, way, way out in front of the curve on Armstrong.

beerlover
01-07-2005, 04:01 PM
My only really point to make is that the Texans are addressing one of their primary needs without exclusivley using the draft. Here is a player that could fill the shoes (& more cheaply) than many of the players discussed in the upcoming draft, among some of the names bantered about include Derrick Johnson, Thomas Davis, David Pollack & Mathias Kiwanuka. Thats all I intended to imply bringing this thread to the draft page.

The major need/s clearly are a big, strong, young Nose Tackle and help on the offensive line, a what specific position however I'm still not convinced. :twocents:

Grid
01-07-2005, 05:40 PM
im not really convinced that we need any OLB help at all. Im not against picking up new talent of course.. but I think the problems with our pass rush can be laid at the feet of our Dline. a more dominant Dline would tie up olines better, and free up our OLBs.

ya know.. the line is the most important aspect of the game, on both offense and defense.. and here we are needing to repair both of them. that aint good.. I hope our front office has some magic planned.

Mistril48
01-07-2005, 08:38 PM
... I think the problems with our pass rush can be laid at the feet of our Dline. a more dominant Dline would tie up olines better, and free up our OLBs...I agree, but I would add a comment. The Texans use the 3-4 as their base, but freely switch to a 4-2 (with the D-line operating as a 4-3 ie. 2 DEs and 2 DTs) when they go to nickle. Because teams will frequently pass on first down as well as 'passing situations' (ie. when the D is in nickle), the Texans need to generate pss rush with both 3 DL and 2 OLB and with 2 DEs and 2DTs.

In addition, in modern football with a lot of specialization, D lineman often share reps. Accordingly, when the Texans activate 5 DL on gameday, they could have some DL who specialize as 4-2 pass rush DTs (like Walker) and some who are more suited as 3-4 DL (like Payne), although of course, they can still fill in reps in the other substitution packages.

I guess what I'm saying is that while the Texans use 3 DT type 2-gap DL to swallow blockers in the 3-4, they could really use a penetrating DT to use with Walker when they are in their nickle packages. Push up front will result in the most disruption of the offense and sacks.

travfrancis
01-08-2005, 02:23 AM
in the nickel do we use peek - walker - smith - babin on the line?

chuckko
01-08-2005, 08:10 AM
It probably hasnt sunk in to you folks in Texas yet, but the team has just kidnapped the top sack master in the Canadian Football League-- Defensive End ..Tim Cheatwood. great player, fast as greased lightening.. (remember the Canadian field is umpteen times larger than the NFL.. aggressive as a bear
played for my team the Hamilton Tiger Cats---

our loss, your gain

good luck tim
:goodbad:

Grid
01-08-2005, 08:27 AM
if he wasnt 27 years old id be more excited about him. but even if he turns into a playmaker and starter, he only has 4-5 more years before he starts to deteriorate. still a good pick up... but ill save my cheering for when we fix the oline

Corrosion
01-08-2005, 10:53 AM
... but ill save my cheering for when we fix the oline


The O-Line :thud:

Grid
01-08-2005, 11:17 AM
:shocked





:rofl: :loser

Mistril48
01-08-2005, 03:43 PM
in the nickel do we use peek - walker - smith - babin on the line?As I recall, early in the year and early in the game, they used Wong - Smith - Walker - Babin and later in the year and later in the game (generally) they switched Wong to Peek (and moved Wong into Foreman's ILB slot.

Vinny
01-08-2005, 04:17 PM
if he wasnt 27 years old id be more excited about him. but even if he turns into a playmaker and starter, he only has 4-5 more years before he starts to deteriorate. still a good pick up... but ill save my cheering for when we fix the olineGrid, that post is just downright goofy. He is only in his prime right now aaaaand you are complaining that he may not produce a half a decade from now? You don't have to get excited but are you that worried about the 2009 Texans? Try to be happy the Texans were able to sign the top sack guy in Canada (that is built to play OLB). He could have gone elsewhere. Perhaps he works out, perhaps not, but now we have another bullet in the gun.

Grid
01-08-2005, 04:30 PM
maybe I didnt come off quite like i wanted to.. I didnt mean "ho hum who cares" .. I was just trying to say:

"I wish he was younger so that if he turns out to be good we could expect to have him around for 10 years" and "Its a good pickup, but im not gonna be real excited until we fix our Oline"

wasnt trying to say it was a bad move or anything.