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bah007
01-11-2009, 04:42 PM
It is still very early in the process, but since the season has just ended I will put out my top five at most positions (excluding FB, K, P). Any input, good or bad, is appreciated.

* - means the player has not officially declared.

QB
1. Sam Bradford - Oklahoma*
2. Matthew Stafford - Georgia
3. Mark Sanchez - USC*
4. Rhett Bomar - Sam Houston St
5. Josh Freeman - Kansas St

RB
1. Chris Wells - Ohio St
2. Knowshon Moreno - Georgia
3. Donald Brown - Connecticut
4. Shonn Greene - Iowa
5. C.J. Spiller - Clemson*

WR
1. Michael Crabtree - Texas Tech
2. Jeremy Maclin - Missouri
3. Percy Harvin - Florida*
4. Kenny Britt - Rutgers
5. Darrius Heyward-Bey - Maryland

TE
1. Jermaine Gresham - Oklahoma*
2. Brandon Pettigrew - Oklahoma St
3. Jared Cook - South Carolina
4. Chase Coffman - Missouri
5. Dennis Pitta - BYU*

OT
1. Andre Smith - Alabama
2. Michael Oher - Ole Miss
3. Jason Smith - Baylor
4. Eugene Monroe - Virginia
5. Eben Britton - Arizona

OG
1. Duke Robinson - Oklahoma
2. Herman Johnson - LSU
3. Trevor Canfield - Cincinnati
4. Andy Levitre - Oregon St
5. Andy Kemp - Wisonsin

C
1. Alex Mack - Cal
2. Jonathan Luigs - Arkansas
3. Max Unger - Oregon
4. Antoine Caldwell - Alabama
5. Eric Wood - Louisville

pittbull3
01-11-2009, 04:47 PM
It is still very early in the process, but since the season has just ended I will put out my top five at most positions (excluding FB, K, P). Any input, good or bad, is appreciated.

* - means the player has not officially declared.

QB
1. Sam Bradford - Oklahoma*
2. Matthew Stafford - Georgia
3. Mark Sanchez - USC*
4. Rhett Bomar - Sam Houston St
5. Josh Freeman - Kansas St

RB
1. Chris Wells - Ohio St
2. Knowshon Moreno - Georgia
3. Donald Brown - Connecticut
4. Shonn Greene - Iowa
5. C.J. Spiller - Clemson*

WR
1. Michael Crabtree - Texas Tech
2. Jeremy Maclin - Missouri
3. Percy Harvin - Florida*
4. Kenny Britt - Rutgers
5. Darrius Heyward-Bey - Maryland

TE
1. Jermaine Gresham - Oklahoma
2. Brandon Pettigrew - Oklahoma St
3. Jared Cook - South Carolina
4. Chase Coffman - Missouri
5. Dennis Pitta - BYU*

OT
1. Andre Smith - Alabama
2. Michael Oher - Ole Miss
3. Jason Smith - Baylor
4. Eugene Monroe - Virginia
5. Eben Britton - Arizona

OG
1. Duke Robinson - Oklahoma
2. Herman Johnson - LSU
3. Trevor Canfield - Cincinnati
4. Andy Levitre - Oregon St
5. Andy Kemp - Wisonsin

C
1. Alex Mack - Cal
2. Jonathan Luigs - Arkansas
3. Max Unger - Oregon
4. Antoine Caldwell - Alabama
5. Eric Wood - Louisville

Like the ranking. I would slide Bradford to #2, Stafford #1. McCoy from Pitt would be a top 5 back. REggie Bush, but can run between the tackles. Macklin #1 WR. Good work though!

was385
01-11-2009, 04:48 PM
Like the ranking. I would slide Bradford to #2, Stafford #1. McCoy from Pitt would be a top 5 back. REggie Bush, but can run between the tackles. Macklin #1 WR. Good work though!

You'd put Macklin ahead of crabatree?

bah007
01-11-2009, 04:49 PM
DE
1. Brian Orakpo - Texas
2. Everette Brown - Florida St
3. Michael Johnson - Georgia Tech
4. Greg Hardy - Ole Miss*
5. Tyson Jackson - LSU

DT
1. B.J. Raji - Boston College
2. Peria Jerry - Ole Miss
3. Sen'Derrick Marks - Auburn
4. Fili Moala - USC
5. Ron Brace - Boston College

OLB
1. Aaron Curry - Wake Forest
2. Aaron Maybin - Penn St
3. Clint Sintim - Virginia
4. Brian Cushing - USC
5. Sean Weatherspoon - Missouri*

ILB
1. James Laurinaitis - Ohio St
2. Rey Maualuga - USC
3. Brandon Spikes - Florida*
4. Darry Beckwith - LSU
5. Jason Phillips - TCU

CB
1. Malcolm Jenkins - Ohio St
2. D.J. Moore - Vanderbilt
3. Vontae Davis - Illinois
4. Trevard Lindley - Kentucky*
5. Mike Mickens - Cincinnati

FS
1. Taylor Mays - USC*
2. William Moore - Missouri
3. Louis Delmas - Western Michigan
4. Rashad Johnson - Alabama
5. Derek Pegues - Mississippi St

SS
1. Patrick Chung - Oregon
2. Emmanuel Cook - South Carolina
3. Courtney Greene - Rutgers
4. Nic Harris - Oklahoma
5. Kevin Ellison - USC

pittbull3
01-11-2009, 04:50 PM
You'd put Macklin ahead of crabatree?

Better overall WR to me. Macklin has better overall speed and will be used in more situations in the NFL. Will be interesting to see what Crabtree is like, without a gimmick offense.

bah007
01-11-2009, 05:02 PM
Like the ranking. I would slide Bradford to #2, Stafford #1. McCoy from Pitt would be a top 5 back. REggie Bush, but can run between the tackles. Macklin #1 WR. Good work though!

Don't really like Stafford. He has the arm for sure. I think Bradford looks more NFL ready.

I'm so confused about McCoy. He said he was leaving. Then he was staying. Now he's leaving again? He would be 4th on my list and knock Spiller off.

Funny that you said that about Maclin. I was tempted to put him as my #1 WR. I don't think Crabtree looks that fast, but he has the size and the hands...

pittbull3
01-11-2009, 05:09 PM
I think Stafford reminds me of Jay Cutler. Swag. Bradford has been a system/gimmick QB, and may have trouble getting under center. I do like his poise, his accuracy when time is given, but not sure of his ability to carry a team and make plays coming from under the center. I hope McCoy stays in school. Stupid to come out. Makes himself a late 1st round or 2nd round pick. You can never make up that money drop again! Tony Dorsett has even tried to tell the kid that. Take out the insurance policy and become a top 10 pick next season. This draft in junior RB loaded. Crabtree is fast, but 4.55 is not elite WR fast in the NFL. Will be interesting to see his NFL adjustment.

bah007
01-11-2009, 05:15 PM
I don't see Bradford as a system QB at all. In fact, most of Oklahoma's passing plays come from when Bradford is under center.

OU throws a lot, but for the most part, they run a pretty pro style offense. A lot of play action and checkdowns to the TE and RBs.

pittbull3
01-11-2009, 05:17 PM
I don't see Bradford as a system QB at all. In fact, most of Oklahoma's passing plays come from when Bradford is under center.

OU throws a lot, but for the most part, they run a pretty pro style offense. A lot of play action and checkdowns to the TE and RBs.

Take your word for it. Not a big 12 supporter so much, but talent is talent!:goodpost:

pittbull3
01-11-2009, 05:20 PM
DE
1. Brian Orakpo - Texas
2. Everette Brown - Florida St
3. Michael Johnson - Georgia Tech
4. Greg Hardy - Ole Miss*
5. Tyson Jackson - LSU

DT
1. B.J. Raji - Boston College
2. Peria Jerry - Ole Miss
3. Sen'Derrick Marks - Auburn
4. Fili Moala - USC
5. Ron Brace - Boston College

OLB
1. Aaron Curry - Wake Forest
2. Aaron Maybin - Penn St
3. Clint Sintim - Virginia
4. Brian Cushing - USC
5. Sean Weatherspoon - Missouri*

ILB
1. James Laurinaitis - Ohio St
2. Rey Maualuga - USC
3. Brandon Spikes - Florida*
4. Darry Beckwith - LSU
5. Jason Phillips - TCU

CB
1. Malcolm Jenkins - Ohio St
2. D.J. Moore - Vanderbilt
3. Vontae Davis - Illinois
4. Trevard Lindley - Kentucky*
5. Mike Mickens - Cincinnati

FS
1. Taylor Mays - USC*
2. William Moore - Missouri
3. Louis Delmas - Western Michigan
4. Rashad Johnson - Alabama
5. Derek Pegues - Mississippi St

SS
1. Patrick Chung - Oregon
2. Emmanuel Cook - South Carolina
3. Courtney Greene - Rutgers
4. Nic Harris - Oklahoma
5. Kevin Ellison - USC

I love all of this with the exception of the OLB and MLP positions. I love Maybin, expescially in a 3-4 defense. Will be a nightmare! Curry may be my most overrated player in college football. Not a fan AT ALL. MLB....Rey Maualuga over Lauranaitis. Rey is a monster. Would love to have him in Houston! Otherwise, right on target to me!

bah007
01-11-2009, 05:27 PM
I love Curry. I don't think I've seen him miss a tackle all season.

I'm a little wary about Maualuga. The guy is a headhunter and I love that. But he doesn't really seem to have any responsibilites on USC's defense. He just runs around and hits people.

pittbull3
01-11-2009, 05:40 PM
I'm a little wary about Maualuga. He just runs around and hits people.

LOL.....:goodpost:

bah007
01-11-2009, 05:44 PM
LOL.....:goodpost:

Thanks for changing the context.

I think we need a guy with a physical presence like his on our defense.

But I don't know if he translates well to the NFL. Just running around and hitting people might look cool...until you miss your gap and the RB breaks a long one.

TexansSeminole
01-11-2009, 06:53 PM
I like these rankings alot. There are a couple safeties I have in my top 10 that aren't here, and I am partial to Moreno as #1 RB and DHB over Britt. Other than that I agree almost completely with these rankings.

beerlover
01-11-2009, 07:07 PM
very professional. who do you work for? really? out with it :whip:

mussop
01-11-2009, 07:26 PM
How about adding
top 5 3/4 OLB
top 5 4/3 OLB's
top 5 speed rushing 4/3 DE's
top 5 4/3 DE's
top 5 3/4 DE


Depending on who our new DC is these could be important positions to consider. Also getting a second RB to back up Slaton has to be a priority but do we go with another smallish RB or a big bruising back?

top 5 Power running RB's
top 5 regular backs

TEXANRED
01-11-2009, 09:08 PM
Rhett Bomar? How has the chosen ones fall from grace gone over there at Sam?

bah007
01-11-2009, 09:18 PM
Rhett Bomar? How has the chosen ones fall from grace gone over there at Sam?

3355 yards passing with 27 TDs and 13 INTs in 10 games this year.

He has the skills to play in the NFL. Just needs to accept the fact that not every play has to go for 20+. Most of his picks this year came on forcing the ball downfield when he could have thrown it away.

Goldensilence
01-12-2009, 12:46 AM
Thanks for changing the context.

I think we need a guy with a physical presence like his on our defense.

But I don't know if he translates well to the NFL. Just running around and hitting people might look cool...until you miss your gap and the RB breaks a long one.

That is my concern with with him and Mays both can deliver a massive hit but how well will that translate moving to the pros.

I think Stafford reminds me of Jay Cutler. Swag. Bradford has been a system/gimmick QB, and may have trouble getting under center. I do like his poise, his accuracy when time is given, but not sure of his ability to carry a team and make plays coming from under the center. I hope McCoy stays in school. Stupid to come out. Makes himself a late 1st round or 2nd round pick. You can never make up that money drop again! Tony Dorsett has even tried to tell the kid that. Take out the insurance policy and become a top 10 pick next season. This draft in junior RB loaded. Crabtree is fast, but 4.55 is not elite WR fast in the NFL. Will be interesting to see his NFL adjustment.


Not sure why you feel the way you do about Crabtree. TT site has him listed at 6'3" and 215 lbs. I'll wait for the combine to see his 40 time but kid KNOWS what to do with the football when he gets it. Might not have the elite burst some people might want but he can attack downfield. I like how he takes a short pass and can break free in the open field. Uses his blocks real well and has good body control. Anquan Boldin's combine time was 4.71 but is still one of the best in the league.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm9gAYutAwg

I do agree on McCoy though. Unless he feels he has nothing more to prove at the college level I don't see why you would want to come out with this running back class.

mussop
01-12-2009, 02:38 AM
I do agree on McCoy though. Unless he feels he has nothing more to prove at the college level I don't see why you would want to come out with this running back class.

I think McCoy would be a steal in the second round. He reminds me alot of Slaton.

beerlover
01-12-2009, 08:54 AM
I think McCoy would be a steal in the second round. He reminds me alot of Slaton.

you know we had his brother, LaRon McCoy, WR trying out for the Texans this past training camp, I really liked his potential but the competition was just to deep to overcome. also mentioned his younger brother at the time, how nice would that be to have brothers playing in the NFL on the same team? I would take a hard, hard look @ him in the 3rd. :)

rmartin65
01-12-2009, 09:23 AM
I think McCoy would be a steal in the second round. He reminds me alot of Slaton.

I cant believe I am about to say this, but I think McCoy will be better than Slaton. Quick feet, powerful, shifty, he has got it. Every game I have watched I was impressed by him. I would trade up into the early second if he was available. I really think he will be the best runningback to come out of this draft.

beerlover
01-12-2009, 09:51 AM
I cant believe I am about to say this, but I think McCoy will be better than Slaton. Quick feet, powerful, shifty, he has got it. Every game I have watched I was impressed by him. I would trade up into the early second if he was available. I really think he will be the best runningback to come out of this draft.

there is a thread for you to post your pick if you like - Texans Draft RB _________ __________ :)

rmartin65
01-12-2009, 10:39 AM
there is a thread for you to post your pick if you like - Texans Draft RB _________ __________ :)

Yeah, but I dont think the Texans will draft a RB that early. Its more of a wish right now.

mussop
01-12-2009, 10:55 AM
I cant believe I am about to say this, but I think McCoy will be better than Slaton. Quick feet, powerful, shifty, he has got it. Every game I have watched I was impressed by him. I would trade up into the early second if he was available. I really think he will be the best runningback to come out of this draft.


I agree with you on all counts. The best way to describe him is Slaton plus. He has all Slatons abilities plus some. I wouldnt be upset if we drafted him at 15. I think he has the ability to be the next Clinton Portis running behind a ZB scheme. Shoot if he is available for us with our second round pick I could definatly see us taking him. Denver Picked Portis in the second round not to far off from where were picking.

Ryan
01-12-2009, 11:23 AM
I think Crabtree will be a slower version of AJ in the NFL. With that being said, he is the best WR in this draft.

pittbull3
01-12-2009, 11:45 AM
I agree with you on all counts. The best way to describe him is Slaton plus. He has all Slatons abilities plus some. I wouldnt be upset if we drafted him at 15. I think he has the ability to be the next Clinton Portis running behind a ZB scheme. Shoot if he is available for us with our second round pick I could definatly see us taking him. Denver Picked Portis in the second round not to far off from where were picking.

He is a dynamic back. Pitt Panther fan from birth. Followed his entire career. Biggest issue is his ball carrying. Carries the ball like a loaf of bread. More like Reggie Bush, but with the toughness to run between the tackles. Should go back to school though. Comes out next year, Top 5 pick & wins the Heismann! No doubt about it.