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HoustonFrog
01-02-2009, 11:50 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3805670

NEW YORK -- Peyton Manning has joined Brett Favre as the only three-time winners of The Associated Press NFL Most Valuable Player Award.

The Indianapolis Colts quarterback was a landslide winner Friday in balloting by a nationwide panel of 50 sports writers and broadcasters who cover the NFL. Manning also was the league MVP in 2003, when he shared it with Tennessee quarterback Steve McNair, and in 2004.

Favre, then with Green Bay, took MVP honors in 1995 and '96 before sharing it with Detroit running back Barry Sanders in 1997.

Manning received 32 votes, far ahead of Miami quarterback Chad Pennington and Atlanta running back Michael Turner.

WWJD
01-02-2009, 11:51 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3805670

He would have been my choice. There was a strong argument for Chad though.

Second Honeymoon
01-02-2009, 12:27 PM
He would have been my choice. There was a strong argument for Chad though.

I don't know about 'strong' argument but the fact that you can even consider Pennington over Manning without being labeled criminally insane just shows you how far Pennington's play improved with the move to Miami...

...regarding Manning, you have to love a QB that finds a way to actually get HEALTHIER as a season progresses. And he did this without much of a running game to speak of. The guy was not right physically for half the season yet still shows himself to be the best player in the league (again) and arguably the greatest quarterback of ALL TIME (it hurts to say it, but its just true. he is roboQB). If he plays at this level another 2 years, he gets my vote. Move over Montana.

The Colts got a tough matchup by having to face a resurrected and rejuvenated Chargers squad on the road, but Manning will bring his A Game and the Chargers will be eliminated. You know Tennessee doesn't want any piece of Manning.

HoustonFrog
01-02-2009, 12:30 PM
I don't know about 'strong' argument but the fact that you can even consider Pennington over Manning without being labeled criminally insane just shows you how far Pennington's play improved with the move to Miami...

...regarding Manning, you have to love a QB that finds a way to actually get HEALTHIER as a season progresses. And he did this without much of a running game to speak of. The guy was not right physically for half the season yet still shows himself to be the best player in the league (again) and arguably the greatest quarterback of ALL TIME (it hurts to say it, but its just true. he is roboQB). If he plays at this level another 2 years, he gets my vote. Move over Montana.

The Colts got a tough matchup by having to face a resurrected and rejuvenated Chargers squad on the road, but Manning will bring his A Game and the Chargers will be eliminated. You know Tennessee doesn't want any piece of Manning.

And to think when he was drafted I actually thought Leaf would be the better pro. I found Manning to be kind of a wuss at Tenn and thought he and his happy feet would fail since he couldn't win big games. I watched Wash St and though Leaf had all the tools to stand in the pocket and play. Boy was I wrong on that one.

Second Honeymoon
01-02-2009, 12:38 PM
And to think when he was drafted I actually thought Leaf would be the better pro. I found Manning to be kind of a wuss at Tenn and thought he and his happy feet would fail since he couldn't win big games. I watched Wash St and though Leaf had all the tools to stand in the pocket and play. Boy was I wrong on that one.

I didn't think either one of them were that special in college, but I think Manning really dedicated himself once he became a pro. 100% dedication and he learned every trick in the book to avoid sacks, draw penalties, etc. His mental game and his situation awareness is just so sharp.

I probably leaned a bit towards Leaf because of what school they went to. Bledsoe had come out of Wash. St. and Shuler came out of Tennessee...obviously Leaf was horrible and Manning is an all time great. Manning was better prepared and had the desire to be the greatest and win.

mexican_texan
01-02-2009, 12:51 PM
I used to hate him for running up the score on everyone, and I still dislike him for that, but you gotta respect the guy. I want to go see the Colts game next season just so I can say I've seen Peyton Manning play in person.

Blazing Arrow
01-02-2009, 12:55 PM
I am suprised that Young did not get the nod. I mean without him going down in game one I do not think we are the top seed in the playoffs.

nunusguy
01-02-2009, 01:06 PM
I would now rate Peyton M. along with Elway as the greatest QBs of our time.
Oh what the hell, the 2 grestest QBs who ever played.
And just our luck, he's going stronger than ever and we gotta keep playing him & the Colts twice a year every year until he finally retires.

hot pickle
01-02-2009, 01:06 PM
what happened to drew brees... i hate the saints but i think he should have won....

mexican_texan
01-02-2009, 01:11 PM
On that note, I miss Steve McNair. Sure, he killed us with his runs up the middle, but you rarely see a QB play with that much balls anymore. He should have retired before he went to the Ravens.

mexican_texan
01-02-2009, 01:14 PM
what happened to drew brees... i hate the saints but i think he should have won....
Brees had the numbers, but the Saints didn't do as well in the 2nd half of the season and missed the playoffs. It's pretty convenient that details of Peyton Manning's knee surgeries came out right before AP writers voted on awards.

BTW, I applaud whoever voted for Michael Turner. Matt Ryan is getting a lot of credit for an offense Michael Turner has done a lot more for.

Blazing Arrow
01-02-2009, 01:32 PM
On that note, I miss Steve McNair. Sure, he killed us with his runs up the middle, but you rarely see a QB play with that much balls anymore. He should have retired before he went to the Ravens.

He did not even need to retire he could have re-neged his contract and the Titans would have kept him. It was the idea of the whole thing like the Titans bait and switched him on his contract. He was such and iron man for the Titans that he felt he deserve the contract money and IMO he did.

mexican_texan
01-02-2009, 01:58 PM
He did not even need to retire he could have re-neged his contract and the Titans would have kept him. It was the idea of the whole thing like the Titans bait and switched him on his contract. He was such and iron man for the Titans that he felt he deserve the contract money and IMO he did.
He never fully recovered from that bruised sternum. You can't tell me the Steve McNair in Baltimore was the same guy that tore our defense time and again with the Titans.

gg no re
01-02-2009, 02:11 PM
He did not even need to retire he could have re-neged his contract and the Titans would have kept him.Knowing Bud, if Steve would have reneged his contract, he'd get traded to Idaho for a sack of potatoes afterwards.

Blazing Arrow
01-02-2009, 02:12 PM
He never fully recovered from that bruised sternum. You can't tell me the Steve McNair in Baltimore was the same guy that tore our defense time and again with the Titans.

Not at all. Plus he was forced to learn a new system and that was not really McNairs style either. He missed a lot of practice time which probably bit him in Baltimore. Plus the rat-birds are a plague.

I would have like to see what Young could have learned under McNair more then what he has under Kerry.

Blazing Arrow
01-02-2009, 02:14 PM
Knowing Bud, if Steve would have reneged his contract, he'd get traded to Idaho for a sack of potatoes afterwards.

Na it would have been exactly what Bud wanted. Keep Mac9 until he retires and let him teach Young a thing or two all on the cheap. With Young signing it would have been hard to bite that much salary cap in one position.

kastofsna
01-02-2009, 06:39 PM
i'd give it to Rivers

Double Barrel
01-02-2009, 06:59 PM
He would have been my choice. There was a strong argument for Chad though.

1-15 to division winners says it all.

Manning is a popular guy, though, so it's not much of a surprise. Not saying he doesn't deserve it, but I just think there is a more deserving player all things considered.

I'm actually hoping the Dolphins go deep in the playoffs. I doubt it will happen, but I'd still like to see it.

mattieuk
01-02-2009, 08:07 PM
1-15 to division winners says it all.

Manning is a popular guy, though, so it's not much of a surprise. Not saying he doesn't deserve it, but I just think there is a more deserving player all things considered.

I'm actually hoping the Dolphins go deep in the playoffs. I doubt it will happen, but I'd still like to see it.

I think its a tight call between the two really. The buck for me ensd with, who was absolutely essential to their team. I don't think anyone else could have produced the 2nd half of the season other than Peyton. On the other hand, whilst Pennington did brilliantly this year, real good, I don't think he was the only person who could have produced in that way this season (not taking anything away from him, him and the rest of the Dolphins deserve massive credit for this year).

That said, I'd be more than willing to be proved wrong in the playoffs at some point though.

kastofsna
01-02-2009, 09:05 PM
this is why the award shouldn't go to player most valuable to their team. pure speculation, zero way to prove it at all

edo783
01-03-2009, 12:37 AM
I am suprised that Young did not get the nod. I mean without him going down in game one I do not think we are the top seed in the playoffs.

Now that's funny. True, but still funny.

mexican_texan
01-03-2009, 12:39 AM
Not at all. Plus he was forced to learn a new system and that was not really McNairs style either. He missed a lot of practice time which probably bit him in Baltimore. Plus the rat-birds are a plague.

I would have like to see what Young could have learned under McNair more then what he has under Kerry.
A lot of people say that, but I think Randall Cunningham would have been a better mentor, as a coach. McNair was a guy that killed you through the air, using his legs as a way to keep drives going. If VY is going to succeed, it won't be as a prolific passer.

Manning deserved to win it more than Pennington; Pennington had a running game and a good defense. Peyton had to deal with a beat up line, no running game, and an unreliable defense. He had a one dimensional offense and managed to win without any wildcat formations.