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Hookem Horns
12-28-2008, 04:41 PM
ive been a supporter of vince all year i still where the jersey on gameday i thought maybe he had learned alot sitting behind kerry. however he cant even score on the backups so at this point the vince jersey is in the trash and im just going to order a personalized one since it seems the titans havent had a big stick around star since well earl campbell eddie george or steve mcnair. im done with vince he neeeds to be gone from our team. VINCE YOU LET ME DOWN!!!!

http://forums.titansonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42634

As an Austin resident this is pretty entertaining. I just can't believe those Titans fans are so blinded to Vince's greatness.

nunusguy
12-28-2008, 04:47 PM
http://forums.titansonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42634

As an Austin resident this is pretty entertaining. I just can't believe those Titans fans are so blinded to Vince's greatness.

I dunno, does this mean Texans fans in Austin (both of them) will get to view Texans games on TV next year instead of Titans games ?

IlliniJen
12-28-2008, 04:48 PM
http://forums.titansonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42634

As an Austin resident this is pretty entertaining. I just can't believe those Titans fans are so blinded to Vince's greatness.

So, you mean VY is a great pro football player and the fans just don't realize it?

Showtime100
12-28-2008, 05:09 PM
I dunno, does this mean Texans fans in Austin (both of them) will get to view Texans games on TV next year instead of Titans games ?

I kind of resent that. If you look you will notice many of us on this board alone. There are many Texan fans in Austin, you work for the Texans FO or something?

In Houston you guys can walk the streets freely, but here it's a full time job just keeping the authorities from finding out who we are and where we live. I have loved ones to protect you know.

J/K

:fans:

DiehardChris
12-28-2008, 05:10 PM
I dunno, does this mean Texans fans in Austin (both of them) will get to view Texans games on TV next year instead of Titans games ?

There are a ton of Titans fans in Austin. The Titans got on KEYE all season this year, even with Vince on the bench.

One week this season when there was a Titans game on KEYE at the same time as a Cowboys game on FOX in Austin - the ratings for the Titans game was only a few tenths lower than the Cowboys game.

So the Titans... somehow... still have a HUGE following in Austin.

DiehardChris
12-28-2008, 05:11 PM
I dunno, does this mean Texans fans in Austin (both of them) will get to view Texans games on TV next year instead of Titans games ?

Oh, I misread this the first time.

Dude. There isn't a bigger Texans fan alive than me, and I'm in Austin. As are thousands of others.

Dread-Head
12-28-2008, 06:44 PM
The Titans started Vince too quickly. That man needed to be groomed into that system a bit better. I say the Texans bring him on board (trade him for Faggins...he aint doing nothing) and let him understudy and learn the Texan's system. Let Kubiack work with him on his passing mechanics and VY will be an awesome QB.
He has the passion, he just needs to fine tune his god given athletic ability.
Bring him home. Tutor him a bit and let him go to work. I think he has the humility needed to be a starter in the NFL and deserves a team that will work with him and appreciates his talent.

stingray
12-28-2008, 06:57 PM
I think that Vince Young just can't throw a pass further than 15 yrds accurately. Bottom line, that is unacceptable in the NFL.

Wolf
12-28-2008, 07:03 PM
What gets me on the thread on the Titans board. some are saying Vince is rusty and hasn't thrown a pass since week one.. well what does that say about sorgi for the Colts?

Blazing Arrow
12-28-2008, 07:05 PM
Young is terrible .... :tiphat:

nunusguy
12-28-2008, 07:13 PM
To you Texans fans in Austin - why the hell can't you get Texans games in
your hometown if there are so many of you ?

TEXANRED
12-28-2008, 07:13 PM
Dude. There isn't a bigger Texans fan alive than me, and I'm in Austin.


Um, no. I am the biggest Texans fan ever.

Specnatz
12-28-2008, 08:38 PM
To you Texans fans in Austin - why the hell can't you get Texans games in
your hometown if there are so many of you ?

The program director for the local cbs is a lying pile of poo. I would swear he has some stock in the ratings the cowgirls get on the fox station.

Silver Oak
12-29-2008, 07:28 AM
The Titans started Vince too quickly. That man needed to be groomed into that system a bit better. I say the Texans bring him on board (trade him for Faggins...he aint doing nothing) and let him understudy and learn the Texan's system. Let Kubiack work with him on his passing mechanics and VY will be an awesome QB.
He has the passion, he just needs to fine tune his god given athletic ability.
Bring him home. Tutor him a bit and let him go to work. I think he has the humility needed to be a starter in the NFL and deserves a team that will work with him and appreciates his talent.


yeah, bring him here so I could start off my Sunday by booing him and letting him know his suckiness, everytime he comes out of the tunnel in "his House".

Showtime100
12-29-2008, 10:17 AM
To you Texans fans in Austin - why the hell can't you get Texans games in
your hometown if there are so many of you ?

Well I guess since this is your second post you must think Texan fans in Austin are sowhow a lesser fan. This is getting annoying. What's your problem with us anyway?

We have to put up with things the Houstonian fan doesn't have to deal with. Like scrambling to find games either at bars or online. Like putting up with the arrogant, loudmouthed Cowboy fans at every turn. (Sorry HoustonFrog, the vast majority of Dallas fans I come across in this world are loudmouthed jerks. The Cowboy supporters here are the exception to that rule based on my firsthand experiences. You and Starstruck, among other 'Boys fans here are great). Like living in a town where college sports wins the day and pro sports is just an afterthought, say, when a Longhorn goes pro.

There are thousands of us man. All Texan fans living in Austin are every bit the fan you or anybody else is on this board. As many of us as there are, there are more Longhorn fans, (I know, imagine that, Longhorn fans in Austin, weird isn't it?) some of which could very well have been Oiler fans but are the soulless type to followed them anew, or worse, loved them even more once VY got there, hence the difficulties. You would know that read posts a little more closely.

For the record, I consider the posters on this board and HT.com all tied as the Texans greatest supporters but I do I harbor a soft spot for those of us NOT in Houston where the Texans are catered to you and you can always watch the game at home. You don't have it over anyone here as far as your devotion to the Texans are concerned.

This is screwed up, on top of the above-mentioned annoyances it seems I now have to fight snobbish Texan fans too.

FirstTexansFan
12-29-2008, 10:32 AM
Couldn't have said it better myself Showtime. Rep coming your way.

GlassHalfFull
12-29-2008, 10:36 AM
Houston Texans fans are great no matter where they live.:texflag::texflag::texflag:

It is tons easier to be a Texans fan if you live in Houston. The fans who live out of town have to work so much harder to see the games and find Texans gear. I :tiphat: to all of you.

Mailman
12-29-2008, 10:59 AM
To you Texans fans in Austin - why the hell can't you get Texans games in
your hometown if there are so many of you ?

1) We don't get to decide. That decision is made by the jagoff station programmers at KEYE

2) The Texans get no credit whatsoever from the UT-centric Austin sports media. These people have no interest in nurturing a central Texas fanbase from the ground up or critically analyzing the team. The only thing they care about is the Texans didn't draft the biggest BMOC in UT history.

3) The Texans front office won't fight for us.

4) Too many outsiders moving to Austin. This city draws people from all over the country because they've heard how fresh and awesomely coooooool and cheap (bullsh*t) it is to live here. Many of them are fans of other NFL teams, so the net effect of the constant population flux dilutes the Texans TV draw.

Specnatz
12-29-2008, 11:09 AM
Not only do us Texans fans in Austin have to fight Longhorn fans, Cowgirl fans but we also have to fight the Texans marketing department as well. I can not go to the local academy store here and get anything with the Texans on it. In preseason (like with ABC 13 in Houston) we had a station here that would call themselves the home of The Houston Texans and the cowgirls for preseason but would not show the Texans games last year (unless they played the cowgirls), this year the last year of the contract for preseason games we got a few on UPN/MyNetwork crap but not all of them.

When the front office of the Texans starts giving a shit about markets outside of the Houston area or 50 mile radius. We should include SA in this discussion as well because they get the same treatment.

I can bet you that JJ makes sure you can get cowgirl crap from Amarillo to Brownsville and El Paso to Tyler, and here I am not to damn far away from Houston and I can not get a damn thing. That is just flat-out crappy marketing and merchandising.

SheTexan
12-29-2008, 11:29 AM
The Titans started Vince too quickly. That man needed to be groomed into that system a bit better. I say the Texans bring him on board (trade him for Faggins...he aint doing nothing) and let him understudy and learn the Texan's system. Let Kubiack work with him on his passing mechanics and VY will be an awesome QB.
He has the passion, he just needs to fine tune his god given athletic ability.
Bring him home. Tutor him a bit and let him go to work. I think he has the humility needed to be a starter in the NFL and deserves a team that will work with him and appreciates his talent.

Dread!!!! When's the next time you're going to be at Bubba's??? I'll be sure to be there with my trusty old BAT so I can beat some sense into you!!! His "passion" is for the big bucks he was able to sign for, plus, all the endorsements he has managed to stick under his belt. Does he think endorsing a sausage label puts him on the same level as EARL CAMPBELL??!! The boy is still delusional and needs a full time shrink!!! NO TEXAN JERSEY for this dube, EVER!!!!

Dread-Head
12-29-2008, 11:35 AM
Dread!!!! When's the next time you're going to be at Bubba's??? I'll be sure to be there with my trusty old BAT so I can beat some sense into you!!! His "passion" is for the big bucks he was able to sign for, plus, all the endorsements he has managed to stick under his belt. Does he think endorsing a sausage label puts him on the same level as EARL CAMPBELL??!! The boy is still delusional and needs a full time shrink!!! NO TEXAN JERSEY for this dube, EVER!!!!

It was just a thought...

Texan_Bill
12-29-2008, 11:43 AM
The Titans started Vince too quickly. That man needed to be groomed into that system a bit better. I say the Texans bring him on board (trade him for Faggins...he aint doing nothing) and let him understudy and learn the Texan's system. Let Kubiack work with him on his passing mechanics and VY will be an awesome QB.
He has the passion, he just needs to fine tune his god given athletic ability.
Bring him home. Tutor him a bit and let him go to work. I think he has the humility needed to be a starter in the NFL and deserves a team that will work with him and appreciates his talent.

Love ya Bro!!! But NO!!!

Blazing Arrow
12-29-2008, 11:46 AM
Love ya Bro!!! But NO!!!

But Bill Bud just finished the contract. Signed fresh in blood.

nunusguy
12-29-2008, 11:54 AM
Well I guess since this is your second post you must think Texan fans in Austin are sowhow a lesser fan. This is getting annoying. What's your problem with us anyway?

We have to put up with things the Houstonian fan doesn't have to deal with. Like scrambling to find games either at bars or online. Like putting up with the arrogant, loudmouthed Cowboy fans at every turn. (Sorry HoustonFrog, the vast majority of Dallas fans I come across in this world are loudmouthed jerks. The Cowboy supporters here are the exception to that rule based on my firsthand experiences. You and Starstruck, among other 'Boys fans here are great). Like living in a town where college sports wins the day and pro sports is just an afterthought, say, when a Longhorn goes pro.

There are thousands of us man. All Texan fans living in Austin are every bit the fan you or anybody else is on this board. As many of us as there are, there are more Longhorn fans, (I know, imagine that, Longhorn fans in Austin, weird isn't it?) some of which could very well have been Oiler fans but are the soulless type to followed them anew, or worse, loved them even more once VY got there, hence the difficulties. You would know that read posts a little more closely.

For the record, I consider the posters on this board and HT.com all tied as the Texans greatest supporters but I do I harbor a soft spot for those of us NOT in Houston where the Texans are catered to you and you can always watch the game at home. You don't have it over anyone here as far as your devotion to the Texans are concerned.

This is screwed up, on top of the above-mentioned annoyances it seems I now have to fight snobbish Texan fans too.
An impassioned Texans fan "NOT" living in Houston being indignant because he thinks his team loyalty is being impugned. I'm truly impressed and if I offended you in any way Showtime I apologize. I sincerely mean that !
BTW I had to work away from home, out of state a few years after we got the Texans and also had to scramble to find places to watch the games so I can appreciate your frustrations. Hopefully they will get more exposure in the Austin area soon, but like with a lot of things that will probably have to wait until the Texans develope some winning ways.

nunusguy
12-29-2008, 12:02 PM
1) We don't get to decide. That decision is made by the jagoff station programmers at KEYE

2) The Texans get no credit whatsoever from the UT-centric Austin sports media. These people have no interest in nurturing a central Texas fanbase from the ground up or critically analyzing the team. The only thing they care about is the Texans didn't draft the biggest BMOC in UT history.

3) The Texans front office won't fight for us.

4) Too many outsiders moving to Austin. This city draws people from all over the country because they've heard how fresh and awesomely coooooool and cheap (bullsh*t) it is to live here. Many of them are fans of other NFL teams, so the net effect of the constant population flux dilutes the Texans TV draw.

That explains a lot and I appreciate the info, but I'm really curious about the
comment "The Texans front office won't fight for us." ? I dunno, but I would
have thought McNair would do whatever he can do to expand his very
modest fanbase outside of Houston ?

DiehardChris
12-29-2008, 12:07 PM
That explains a lot and I appreciate the info, but I'm really curious about the
comment "The Texans front office won't fight for us." ? I dunno, but I would
have thought McNair would do whatever he can do to expand his very
modest fanbase outside of Houston ?

Nope. A ton of us Austin Texans fans have repeatedly emailed and contact the Texans FO, and I think at some point someone got a reply saying they were concentrating only on Houston and close-in surrounding areas.

You Houston fans don't even have to worry about stuff like this... but you will next year when the blackout protection is over. Then you'll know how we feel when we can't watch the Texans in our home city.

disaacks3
12-29-2008, 12:16 PM
Nope. A ton of us Austin Texans fans have repeatedly emailed and contact the Texans FO, and I think at some point someone got a reply saying they were concentrating only on Houston and close-in surrounding areas.

You Houston fans don't even have to worry about stuff like this... but you will next year when the blackout protection is over. Then you'll know how we feel when we can't watch the Texans in our home city. I'm pretty sure that we've been out of Blackout protection since Season 3.

We've had the sellouts for SEVEN straight seasons. (The seats are all sold, but actuall attendance isn't counted in the NFL as it is in MLB) After going 8-8, does anyone really expect us NOT to sellout next year as well?

gg no re
12-29-2008, 12:26 PM
Anyone want to take that thread on the Titans board and do a search and replace of VY with DC?

Blazing Arrow
12-29-2008, 12:33 PM
After going 8-8, does anyone really expect us NOT to sellout next year as well?

:spit:

No one is going to want to miss the unveiling of the 8-8 banner. :woot2

Quote of the playoffs .... errr I mean offseason!

TEXANRED
12-29-2008, 12:40 PM
:spit:

No one is going to want to miss the unveiling of the 8-8 banner. :woot2

Quote of the playoffs .... errr I mean offseason!

:foottap:

Texan_Bill
12-29-2008, 12:43 PM
:spit:

No one is going to want to miss the unveiling of the 8-8 banner. :woot2

Quote of the playoffs .... errr I mean offseason!


^^^ this post should be moved to the classless titans thread.

Titans fans are all too familiar with going 8-8, eh??

Blazing Arrow
12-29-2008, 12:53 PM
^^^ this post should be moved to the classless titans thread.

Titans fans are all too familiar with going 8-8, eh??

Ahhh 8-8 not enough anymore? Last season it was all the rage. And please if you consider this a 'classless' post you should drop half of yours in the rival area in a Classless Texans fan thread. There have been a lot worst things said on here then making light of a fan base revealing in a .500 season and not making the playoffs.

You gotta admit that it is a little funny that if a team goes 8-8 that it is a given that you will sell out.

DiehardChris
12-29-2008, 12:55 PM
I'm pretty sure that we've been out of Blackout protection since Season 3.

We've had the sellouts for SEVEN straight seasons. (The seats are all sold, but actuall attendance isn't counted in the NFL as it is in MLB) After going 8-8, does anyone really expect us NOT to sellout next year as well?

Nope. Blackout protection ends with 2008. It's been discussed in several places during the season.

That's not to say they won't sell out all the games next year - but if they start out poorly again, who knows?

disaacks3
12-29-2008, 12:56 PM
You gotta admit that it is a little funny that if a team goes 8-8 that it is a given that you will sell out. How so? We sold out after 2-14, but we can't at 8-8? What logic course did you fail?

Texan_Bill
12-29-2008, 12:57 PM
Ahhh 8-8 not enough anymore? Last season it was all the rage. And please if you consider this a 'classless' post you should drop half of yours in the rival area in a Classless Texans fan thread. There have been a lot worst things said on here then making light of a fan base revealing in a .500 season and not making the playoffs.

You gotta admit that it is a little funny that if a team goes 8-8 that it is a given that you will sell out.

I don't see the humor in it. The Texans sold out the year after 2-14. Sold out after 6-10..... And??

:secret: I mean the poster himself was clueless errrrrrrrrr classless.

DiehardChris
12-29-2008, 12:57 PM
How so? We sold out after 2-14, but we can't at 8-8? What logic course did you fail?

Especially with Slaton as our established RB, Schaub as our established QB... and hopefully a new DC to get everyone excited.

I think we'll be fine.

nunusguy
12-29-2008, 12:58 PM
Nope. A ton of us Austin Texans fans have repeatedly emailed and contact the Texans FO, and I think at some point someone got a reply saying they were concentrating only on Houston and close-in surrounding areas.

You Houston fans don't even have to worry about stuff like this... but you will next year when the blackout protection is over. Then you'll know how we feel when we can't watch the Texans in our home city.

" blackout protection " ?
If games are sellouts (which all games have been here in Houston to date), it's not an issue. And BTW, if you've seen empty seats at Texans' games, they are no-shows of sold seats. So I dunno what your mean by " blackout protection " ?
And didn't know the Texans weren't concentrating on fans beyond metro Houston, but like any organization the Texans do have limited resources.

Blazing Arrow
12-29-2008, 01:02 PM
How so? We sold out after 2-14, but we can't at 8-8? What logic course did you fail?

I seem to have passed one that Texans fans failed. If your team is struggling to get two wins where is the logic in the fan base shelling out a ton of money to sell the stadium out?

Blazing Arrow
12-29-2008, 01:04 PM
I don't see the humor in it. The Texans sold out the year after 2-14. Sold out after 6-10..... And??

:secret: I mean the poster himself was clueless errrrrrrrrr classless.

If it were the Titans in the reverse roll it would be humorous.

ChildressTitanMan
12-29-2008, 01:05 PM
Back on topic....................

Vince Gump is a turd

TEXANRED
12-29-2008, 01:05 PM
Ahhh 8-8 not enough anymore? Last season it was all the rage. And please if you consider this a 'classless' post you should drop half of yours in the rival area in a Classless Texans fan thread. There have been a lot worst things said on here then making light of a fan base revealing in a .500 season and not making the playoffs.

You gotta admit that it is a little funny that if a team goes 8-8 that it is a given that you will sell out.

Wait. Was it not the Titan fan base that trotted out VY as some sort of saviour cus he took the Titans to an 8-8 season his rookie year?

What ever happen to that Vince Young guy anyhow?

DiehardChris
12-29-2008, 01:06 PM
I seem to have passed one that Texans fans failed. If your team is struggling to get two wins where is the logic in the fan base shelling out a ton of money to sell the stadium out?

You wouldn't understand. You didn't live and die with a team for several decades until they were ripped away from you. You were handed a team on a silver platter, and got a super bowl appearance almost right away.

mexican_texan
12-29-2008, 01:08 PM
I seem to have passed one that Texans fans failed. If your team is struggling to get two wins where is the logic in the fan base shelling out a ton of money to sell the stadium out?
Football is huge in Texas. We have more high school football fans than the state of Tennessee has football fans period.

Texan_Bill
12-29-2008, 01:08 PM
Back on topic....................

Vince Gump is a turd


Right on Childress!!!

ATX
12-29-2008, 01:13 PM
Houston vs Nashville?

With Houston having 4 million plus in the area, plus some of the largest companies in the country, there shouldn't be any reason for lack of sellouts.

mexican_texan
12-29-2008, 01:14 PM
It's probably closer to 7 million.

ATX
12-29-2008, 01:20 PM
It's probably closer to 7 million.

Which is probably more than the whole state of Tennessee, hence the reason they had to be called the Tennessee Titans and not the Nashville Titans.

Blazing Arrow
12-29-2008, 01:22 PM
Football is huge in Texas. We have more high school football fans than the state of Tennessee has football fans period.

I live in CA and my highschool was the ESPN National Champions for highschool my senior year.

Blazing Arrow
12-29-2008, 01:24 PM
Wait. Was it not the Titan fan base that trotted out VY as some sort of saviour cus he took the Titans to an 8-8 season his rookie year?

What ever happen to that Vince Young guy anyhow?

The Tennessee Oilers moved when they were 2-14 and had just promoted a coach at mid season they were hardly a power house much less a contender. We did not get the benefit of a supplementary draft like the Texans did.

mexican_texan
12-29-2008, 01:30 PM
I live in CA and my highschool was the ESPN National Champions for highschool my senior year.
Well good for you. California's high school football scene doesn't compare to Virginia or Texas though.

Blazing Arrow
12-29-2008, 01:34 PM
Well good for you. California's high school football scene doesn't compare to Virginia or Texas though.

Please! The coach of the team has been offered coordinator positions in the NFL for many seasons. He currently hold the record in the country for most consecutive wins ... guess who's record he beat?

Currently MJD, Toomer, and DJ Williams are playing in the NFL all products of that system.

While CA has a lot of high schools there are several that are considered the tops amount the nation in teams.

TEXANRED
12-29-2008, 01:41 PM
The Tennessee Oilers moved when they were 2-14 and had just promoted a coach at mid season they were hardly a power house much less a contender. We did not get the benefit of a supplementary draft like the Texans did.

What are you talking about? The Titans went to the superbowl in 2000 and VY was a rookie in 2006.

Are you over medicating your glaucoma?

J-Russ
12-29-2008, 01:43 PM
I wonder if they still have that "I want to rescue Vince from Tennessee!!!" thread over on the orangeblood forum.

That thread was pretty funny.

Blazing Arrow
12-29-2008, 01:56 PM
What are you talking about? The Titans went to the superbowl in 2000 and VY was a rookie in 2006.

I was talking about how we started as the 'Titans" ... you know stealing a team and all :rolleyes:

The Titans were in rebuild and were nowhere near a Super Bowl caliber team when they moved. If you were to read some of the comments it seems like we had a playoff team at the bring of the Super Bowl.

Are you over medicating your glaucoma?

Clever :thisbig:

gwallaia
12-29-2008, 01:59 PM
Well good for you. California's high school football scene doesn't compare to Virginia or Texas though.

I believe California, Texas and Florida consistently lead the nation in the number of high school players that go on and play in college.

As far as fan interest and tradition. I have no idea, I only know the State of Texas.

TEXANRED
12-29-2008, 02:05 PM
Clever :thisbig:

Thanks. I try.

Texan_Bill
12-29-2008, 02:06 PM
The Tennessee Oilers moved when they were 2-14 and had just promoted a coach at mid season they were hardly a power house much less a contender. We did not get the benefit of a supplementary draft like the Texans did.

No.. You benefited from having the fact that Steve McNair had already been drafted. Eddie George had been drafted. Frank Wychek was there, and many of the pieces of a once dominating O-line were still in place. The defense wasn't really that bad. Blaine Bishop anyone? Barron Wortham, Gary Walker, Darrell Lewis. BTW, special teams weren't all that bad either, Al Del Greco, Reggie Roby and Mel Gray. Tennessee had just drafted Derrick Mason (R) that off-season.

BTW, the expansion draft for the Texans was different than other expansion drafts in that the Texans were required to spend almost 40% (or about $28 million) of their cap space -or-required to draft 30 guys in the draft alone.

Apples to apples? Hardly.

Next?

Mailman
12-29-2008, 02:11 PM
No.. You benefited from having the fact that Steve McNair had already been drafted. Eddie George had been drafted. Frank Wychek was there, and many of the pieces of a once dominating O-line were still in place. The defense wasn't really that bad. Blaine Bishop anyone? Barron Wortham, Gary Walker, Darrell Lewis. BTW, special teams weren't all that bad either, Al Del Greco, Reggie Roby and Mel Gray. Tennessee had just drafted Derrick Mason (R) that off-season.

BTW, the expansion draft for the Texans was different than other expansion drafts in that the Texans were required to spend almost 40% (or about $28 million) of their cap space -or-required to draft 30 guys in the draft alone.

Apples to apples? Hardly.

Next?

You beat me to it. How can a self-identified Titans fan not remember these players? Good grief, they were given a team with a Hall-of-Fame offensive lineman in Bruce Matthews and Pro-Bowlers in Brad Hopkins and Mark Stepnoski, along with a young stud RB and a third-year QB who was drafted third overall.

Yeah, that 8-8 team they stole really had it rough.

Blazing Arrow
12-29-2008, 02:19 PM
You beat me to it. How can a self-identified Titans fan not remember these players? Good grief, they were given a team with a Hall-of-Fame offensive lineman in Bruce Matthews and Pro-Bowlers in Brad Hopkins and Mark Stepnoski, along with a young stud RB and a third-year QB who was drafted third overall just three years previous.

Yeah, that 8-8 team they stole really had it rough.

So the two years in TN under the Oiler name was still an Oiler team? Houstonians had a strange way of showing it not going to the last games in the Dome. When the team moved it was coming off of a 2-14 season and looked in collapse. The reason they were able to draft McNair and George was the horrible record the seasons leading up to it. While a lot of players were on that team several more came after the movie. Mason Bill? Really you are talking up a guy who had 8 Rec and 89 Yrds our Super Bowl season. What would we have done without him?

Mailman
12-29-2008, 02:24 PM
So the two years in TN under the Oiler name was still an Oiler team? Houstonians had a strange way of showing it not going to the last games in the Dome. When the team moved it was coming off of a 2-14 season and looked in collapse. The reason they were able to draft McNair and George was the horrible record the seasons leading up to it. While a lot of players were on that team several more came after the movie. Mason Bill? Really you are talking up a guy who had 8 Rec and 89 Yrds our Super Bowl season. What would we have done without him?

You're not very good at this, are you? The Oilers were 7-9 and 8-8 before they made the move to Tennessee. The 2-14 season was in '94, Pardee's last year as head coach.

Honoring Earl 34
12-29-2008, 02:25 PM
I believe California, Texas and Florida consistently lead the nation in the number of high school players that go on and play in college.

As far as fan interest and tradition. I have no idea, I only know the State of Texas.

I heard Bobby Bowden say it was Texas , Florida , Southern Californa , Ohio , Louisiana , and then Alabama ... in that order .

Mailman
12-29-2008, 02:26 PM
Houstonians had a strange way of showing it not going to the last games in the Dome.

You're challenged in the head if you can't figure out why.

Blazing Arrow
12-29-2008, 02:34 PM
You're not very good at this, are you? The Oilers were 7-9 and 8-8 before they made the move to Tennessee. The 2-14 season was in '94, Pardee's last year as head coach.

My bad .. I got when Fisher stated stuck in my head for some reason.

Texan_Bill
12-29-2008, 02:34 PM
So the two years in TN under the Oiler name was still an Oiler team? Houstonians had a strange way of showing it not going to the last games in the Dome. When the team moved it was coming off of a 2-14 season and looked in collapse. The reason they were able to draft McNair and George was the horrible record the seasons leading up to it. While a lot of players were on that team several more came after the movie. Mason Bill? Really you are talking up a guy who had 8 Rec and 89 Yrds our Super Bowl season. What would we have done without him?

The point here isn't the name of the team or location of a team, but that fact that it had existed and carried over many players versus a new team at start up.

Since you insist on telling revisionist stories, let me educate you:

Since the 2-14 team, the Oilers remained in Houston for two more seasons where they went 7-9 under Fishers first full season and 8-8 in his second season. After the move to Tennessee, Fisher had two more 8-8 seasons. To summarize:

1998 NFL Tennessee Oilers 8 8 0 Fisher
1997 NFL Tennessee Oilers 8 8 0 Fisher
1996 NFL Houston Oilers 8 8 0 Fisher
1995 NFL Houston Oilers 7 9 0 Fisher
1994 NFL Houston Oilers 2 14 0 Pardee,Fisher


Mason was mentioned because in his rookie season (drafted by the Tennessee Oilers) as a special teams player (please read again) faired pretty well.

And last, about going to the game... They were already committed to leaving. How can you hold it against anyone for not spending their hard earned money to go see a team that was on its way out during their lame-duck season? Really? You could hold that against anyone?? Although 50,000+ did show up to see the Oilers beat Pittsburgh that final year.

Blazing Arrow
12-29-2008, 02:36 PM
You're challenged in the head if you can't figure out why.

You could have still supported the players and what the team meant without contributing to Bud Adams. The seats were already sold. Not like he sits on your chest and forces $10 beers down your throat.

Texan_Bill
12-29-2008, 02:44 PM
The point here isn't the name of the team or location of a team, but that fact that it had existed and carried over many players versus a new team at start up.

Since you insist on telling revisionist stories, let me educate you:

Since the 2-14 team, the Oilers remained in Houston for two more seasons where they went 7-9 under Fishers first full season and 8-8 in his second season. After the move to Tennessee, Fisher had two more 8-8 seasons. To summarize:

1998 NFL Tennessee Oilers 8 8 0 Fisher
1997 NFL Tennessee Oilers 8 8 0 Fisher
1996 NFL Houston Oilers 8 8 0 Fisher
1995 NFL Houston Oilers 7 9 0 Fisher
1994 NFL Houston Oilers 2 14 0 Pardee,Fisher


Mason was mentioned because in his rookie season (drafted by the Tennessee Oilers) as a special teams player (please read again) faired pretty well.

And last, about going to the game... They were already committed to leaving. How can you hold it against anyone for not spending their hard earned money to go see a team that was on its way out during their lame-duck season? Really? You could hold that against anyone?? Although 50,000+ did show up to see the Oilers beat Pittsburgh that final year.

Nevermind.... Mailman beat me :tiphat: Mailman

HOU-TEX
12-29-2008, 02:52 PM
Y'all are wasting your time on the Flaming Wheelbarrow.

Flaming Wheelbarrow = Clueless in California

Texan_Bill
12-29-2008, 02:55 PM
Y'all are wasting your time on the Flaming Wheelbarrow.

Flaming Wheelbarrow = Clueless in California

That made me laugh.... :cowboy1:

Blazing Arrow
12-29-2008, 03:00 PM
Y'all are wasting your time on the Flaming Wheelbarrow.

Flaming Wheelbarrow = Clueless in California

Like this thread?

Young sucks, the grass is green, the sky is blue. The guy does not even start for the Titans for Pete sake. Why not have 100 threads on how bad Sorgi is?

Hookem Horns
12-29-2008, 03:02 PM
You could have still supported the players and what the team meant without contributing to Bud Adams. The seats were already sold. Not like he sits on your chest and forces $10 beers down your throat.

You're joking right? I still get on people that admit they attended any game during those 2 lame duck seasons. At that point they were already the Tennessee Oilers just being forced to play in Houston because Bud had no plan. He never intended on moving the team and was just using Nashville as a ploy to blackmail the city of Houston again. When that failed he had to move and had no where to play so he had to stay in Houston for a couple of more seasons. When that went so bad he decided to go to Memphis because Nashville wasn't ready for him. The Memphis fans didn't support the Oilers at all. The people in Nashville didn't care either until Bud was forced to change the name.

So with that in mind hardly anyone cared in Nashville until the team became the Titans. So in many's minds that was the first real season and they just so happened to go to the Super Bowl that season.

BTW, those people in Nashville aren't too supportive when the Titans aren't winning. They still haven't been tested too much however during a couple of poor seasons they were no showing like crazy. Just let them go 10 years of miserable seasons and you will see how supportive those fans are.

Brando
12-29-2008, 03:03 PM
Like this thread?

Young sucks, the grass is green, the sky is blue. The guy does not even start for the Titans for Pete sake. Why not have 100 threads on how bad Sorgi is?

Because Sorgi can actually pass the ball and his team didn't get shut out against backups. :duh:

Texan_Bill
12-29-2008, 03:06 PM
You're joking right? I still get on people that admit they attended any game during those 2 lame duck seasons.
*ahem* I went to home games until they actually left town
My Dad did not renew our tickets for the final year, but I was always able to find a ticket for $10.00 to $15.00.

Showtime100
12-29-2008, 03:18 PM
*ahem* I went to home games until they actually left town
My Dad did not renew our tickets for the final year, but I was always able to find a ticket for $10.00 to $15.00.

Get a rope. :foottap:

Blazing Arrow
12-29-2008, 03:22 PM
Because Sorgi can actually pass the ball and his team didn't get shut out against backups. :duh:


We did not dress 5 defensive starters. I would say Sorgi beat a team of backups.

TheCD
12-29-2008, 03:39 PM
We did not dress 5 defensive starters. I would say Sorgi beat a team of backups.

Were the Colts playing their defensive starters? If so then its a fair comparison between Young and Sorgi. Anyways, if the Titans are a Super Bowl contender why did they get blanked? Don't Super Bowl teams have backups that could start for other teams?

Showtime100
12-29-2008, 03:44 PM
An impassioned Texans fan "NOT" living in Houston being indignant because he thinks his team loyalty is being impugned. I'm truly impressed and if I offended you in any way Showtime I apologize. I sincerely mean that !
BTW I had to work away from home, out of state a few years after we got the Texans and also had to scramble to find places to watch the games so I can appreciate your frustrations. Hopefully they will get more exposure in the Austin area soon, but like with a lot of things that will probably have to wait until the Texans develope some winning ways.

No need to apologize and no offense taken, nunusguy. I just got the feeling there was some disrespect toward Austin fans and more than anything I couldn't understand why.

No big deal, I just thought I'd address it is all. idonno: :texflag:

Texan_Bill
12-29-2008, 04:02 PM
Get a rope. :foottap:

:aggressive: I've always admitted that I remained an Oiler fan until Craphead's 18 wheelers hit I-10 East.

Texan_Bill
12-29-2008, 04:07 PM
We did not dress 5 defensive starters. I would say Sorgi beat a team of backups.

Another way to look at it is that Tennessee lost to a team of back-ups.

Double Barrel
12-29-2008, 04:47 PM
*ahem* I went to home games until they actually left town
My Dad did not renew our tickets for the final year, but I was always able to find a ticket for $10.00 to $15.00.

I was at the Steelers game, too (/w Jungle Bob). Got inside the 'dome around the end of the first qtr. I do not apologize to anyone for being a HOUSTON Oilers football fan until the end.

It's not our fault that crabface decided to be a greedy, soulless bastard and sell out to the highest paying John (like the prostitute he really is at the end of the day). He could have easily been patient and waited out Lanier's term. Team owners are always around longer than politicians. But no, the dude is a coward and has absolutely no loyalty to hometown fans or the memories they hold of the players that made his teams great. Those same players are honored EVERY YEAR by the Houston Texans and Houston football fans, and many of those same players wouldn't piss on Slug if he was on fire.

Titans fans can wear that smugness all they want. I don't care about them, no matter how much lower they want to act than Cowboys fans. [At least the Cowboys actually have something to be proud of in their history. Titans fans are proud just to be a-holes, and that's just fine because they just keep acting like their pathetic owner.]

No, my beef with the Titans franchise is that slimy, fat, piece of crap owner. In a small way, I kinda feel sorry for VY being suck in Satan's web...until, that is, I remember him running around our stadium yelling "this is my house!" over and over and over. Now I just look forward to the eventual meltdown when Adams forces the VY issue to the forefront. Titans fans better hope this is the year, because it won't be happening with VY anytime soon.

MannyFresh
12-29-2008, 04:55 PM
I was at the Steelers game, too (/w Jungle Bob). Got inside the 'dome around the end of the first qtr. I do not apologize to anyone for being a HOUSTON Oilers football fan until the end.

It's not our fault that crabface decided to be a greedy, soulless bastard and sell out to the highest paying John (like the prostitute he really is at the end of the day). He could have easily been patient and waited out Lanier's term. Team owners are always around longer than politicians. But no, the dude is a coward and has absolutely no loyalty to hometown fans or the memories they hold of the players that made his teams great. Those same players are honored EVERY YEAR by the Houston Texans and Houston football fans, and many of those same players wouldn't piss on Slug if he was on fire.

Titans fans can wear that smugness all they want. I don't care about them, no matter how much lower they want to act than Cowboys fans. [At least the Cowboys actually have something to be proud of in their history. Titans fans are proud just to be a-holes, and that's just fine because they just keep acting like their pathetic owner.]

No, my beef with the Titans franchise is that slimy, fat, piece of crap owner. In a small way, I kinda feel sorry for VY being suck in Satan's web...until, that is, I remember him running around our stadium yelling "this is my house!" over and over and over. Now I just look forward to the eventual meltdown when Adams forces the VY issue to the forefront. Titans fans better hope this is the year, because it won't be happening with VY anytime soon.
Amen brother.

Texan_Bill
12-29-2008, 04:55 PM
I was at the Steelers game, too (/w Jungle Bob). Got inside the 'dome around the end of the first qtr. I do not apologize to anyone for being a HOUSTON Oilers football fan until the end.

It's not our fault that crabface decided to be a greedy, soulless bastard and sell out to the highest paying John (like the prostitute he really is at the end of the day). He could have easily been patient and waited out Lanier's term. Team owners are always around longer than politicians. But no, the dude is a coward and has absolutely no loyalty to hometown fans or the memories they hold of the players that made his teams great. Those same players are honored EVERY YEAR by the Houston Texans and Houston football fans, and many of those same players wouldn't piss on Slug if he was on fire.

Titans fans can wear that smugness all they want. I don't care about them, no matter how much lower they want to act than Cowboys fans. [At least the Cowboys actually have something to be proud of in their history. Titans fans are proud just to be a-holes, and that's just fine because they just keep acting like their pathetic owner.]

No, my beef with the Titans franchise is that slimy, fat, piece of crap owner. In a small way, I kinda feel sorry for VY being suck in Satan's web...until, that is, I remember him running around our stadium yelling "this is my house!" over and over and over. Now I just look forward to the eventual meltdown when Adams forces the VY issue to the forefront. Titans fans better hope this is the year, because it won't be happening with VY anytime soon.

Well said my man!! Well said....

LonerATO
12-29-2008, 05:01 PM
Being stuck in San Antonio the last few years I have seen almost every game showed here. I think this season alone only three games didn't make it on air. VY sucks and I hope we never waste any money on him. VY's play has once again proved that not all great college QB's do well in the NFL

Blazing Arrow
12-29-2008, 05:31 PM
Another way to look at it is that Tennessee lost to a team of back-ups.

The only way to look at it is the Colts backups might be better then our backups.

Texan_Bill
12-29-2008, 05:40 PM
The only way to look at it is the Colts backups might be better then our backups.

Fair enough. The Colts' back-ups are 23-0 better than the Titans back-ups. Although I saw a play with Bulluck and the fake Irishman chasing someone from behind in the second quarter...

mexican_texan
12-29-2008, 05:47 PM
Please! The coach of the team has been offered coordinator positions in the NFL for many seasons. He currently hold the record in the country for most consecutive wins ... guess who's record he beat?

Currently MJD, Toomer, and DJ Williams are playing in the NFL all products of that system.

While CA has a lot of high schools there are several that are considered the tops amount the nation in teams.
What the hell are you on about? And Lovie Smith coached high school football in Texas, so big whoop.

Texan_Bill
12-29-2008, 05:54 PM
What the hell are you on about? And Lovie Smith coached high school football in Texas, so big whoop.

I'll do you one better. The most beloved head coach of Pud's organization also came from coaching HS Football in Texas: O.A. Bum Phillips.

So, I'm not really sure where Arrow was taking this....

Blazing Arrow
12-29-2008, 06:05 PM
I'll do you one better. The most beloved head coach of Pud's organization also came from coaching HS Football in Texas: O.A. Bum Phillips.

So, I'm not really sure where Arrow was taking this....

Someone mentioned something about football states and fans in them and tied me back to TN. I corrected them and then went off a little bit about MY high school. :cool:

hookinreds
12-30-2008, 12:48 AM
Ahhh 8-8 not enough anymore? Last season it was all the rage. And please if you consider this a 'classless' post you should drop half of yours in the rival area in a Classless Texans fan thread. There have been a lot worst things said on here then making light of a fan base revealing in a .500 season and not making the playoffs.

You gotta admit that it is a little funny that if a team goes 8-8 that it is a given that you will sell out. Hell, it gives some teams playoff births.

Texan JBZ
12-30-2008, 09:51 AM
Well good for you. California's high school football scene doesn't compare to Virginia or Texas though.

I heard Bobby Bowden say it was Texas , Florida , Southern Californa , Ohio , Louisiana , and then Alabama ... in that order .

Well, any list that doesn't have Mississippi in its top five is absolute garbage imo.

As far as VY, the guy needs a change of scenery in the worst way. He's a city boy stuck around a gaggle of hillbillies puffing on XXX bottles and picking banjos. No wonder he's not comfortable playing there. I was at the game where he went around parading on our home field. Didn't like it one bit. But you know what they say about God not liking ugly.

Adams needs to look at moving VY. It's apparent that Fisher has no confidence in him. His teammates question his leadership and commitment which is the worst thing that can be said about a QB. He needs to be traded and maybe he can resurrect his career elsewhere.

Texan_Bill
12-30-2008, 09:55 AM
Well good for you. California's high school football scene doesn't compare to Virginia or Texas though.

I heard Bobby Bowden say it was Texas , Florida , Southern Californa , Ohio , Louisiana , and then Alabama ... in that order .

Well, any list that doesn't have Mississippi in its top five is absolute garbage imo.

As far as VY, the guy needs a change of scenery in the worst way. He's a city boy stuck around a gaggle of hillbillies puffing on XXX bottles and picking banjos. No wonder he's not comfortable playing there. I was at the game where he went around parading on our home field. Didn't like it one bit. But you know what they say about God not liking ugly.

Adams needs to look at moving VY. It's apparent that Fisher has no confidence in him. His teammates question his leadership and commitment which is the worst thing that can be said about a QB. He needs to be traded and maybe he can resurrect his career elsewhere.


I'll make the list real easy.... Texas

and then,



who the hell really cares.

:pirate:

Honoring Earl 34
01-12-2009, 09:00 AM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/01/11/divisionals/4.html

What I Learned About Football This Week That I Didn't Know Last Week

Will the Titans bid adieu to disappointing quarterback Vince Young in the offseason?

Vince Young gives off about the worst body language of any backup quarterback I've ever seen.

I was in the Titans' locker room Thursday for 45 minutes and never saw a sign of Young, who lockers next to Kerry Collins and a couple of stalls down from third-stringer Chris Simms. Collins and Simms enjoyed the time in media-access, talking to an out-of-town reporter or two about their team, their old teams, Brett Favre, the Browns hiring Eric Mangini and anything else that came up. Nice, easy conversation. No Young. That's par for the course, one Titans source told me. Young's not one to pal around or shoot the breeze much with Collins.