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YoungTexanFan
12-26-2008, 01:02 PM
I want to know who from your school has an NFL future. Tell the board a little more about them and where you see them going or have read about them going. Now, since we are overloaded with Aggie, Horns, and Coogs, let's try to keep the repeating to a minimum. The board doesn't need to see 15 different "Brian Orakpo is god" type posts. Also, if possible, follow my format. Hopefully this will help us bridge into the bolws and draft season.

Note: Please only list the players who are draft eligible and/or have a realistic chance to declare for the draft. Desmond Briscoe will be a first day NFL WR, but he isn't eligible. Darrell Stuckey would be a first day pick at SS if he declared this year but he has given no indications of that. Those players are not listed below.

School: Kansas
Conference: Big XII

Player: James Holt, LB, #12, Senior
Holt has been the most consistent LB on the Kansas roster the past 2 years. Last year, he made 97 tackles last season along with 15.5 tackles for loss and seven sacks. He spent time this year flexing down to DE to utilize his speed and ability to get to the QB. In the NFL, he projects as an OLB in the 4-3, and specifically, the weakside. He has the size and speed to play that position now. He will need to work on his coverage some when turning his hips. I expect Hot to be drafted in the 3rd or 4th round.

Player: Mike Rivera, LB, #40, Senior
Rivera just might be the most feared hitter in the Big XII. He is a great tackler and finishes his tackles with authority. He shows good ability in reading plays. He has NFL size now at 6'3 255. However, Rivera does not have great lateral quickness. He is not a "sideline to sideline" player, though he does a great job filling cut-back lanes. He plays the ball well. He will struggle to stop a quicker RB in open space. He is an idea fit at ILB in the 3-4. I expect Rivera to be drafted in the 4th or 5th round.

CoastalTexan
12-26-2008, 07:41 PM
School: Texas State
Conference: Southland

Prospect:

WR-Cameron Luke: 6,2 211

2008: 73 Receptions, 1,268 Yards, 17 TD's
2007: 60 Receptions, 1,035 Yards, 12 TD's

Smart WR that runs good routes and will go up and get a pass in traffic, also does not drop passes. Transfer from Utah State where he played Defensive Back. He was a QB in high school in Houston.

stingray
12-26-2008, 08:00 PM
Sam Houston State

Conference/Southland

QB/Rhett Bomar. I really don't know what round he would go in but I know he'll probably get drafted.

Ole Miss Texan
12-26-2008, 09:24 PM
AT&T Cotton Bowl -Friday, January 2nd, 2009 at 1pm CST
#25 Ole Miss (8-4) vs. #7 Texas Tech (11-1)
http://www.attcottonbowl.com/_images/img_logo.jpg

I truly mean this when I say that this will be the best DL that Tech has faced all season. Hardy and Jerry both demand double teams and I expect them to get after Harrell like OU did. Hopefully we'll have the same results :)

School: Ole Miss (hence Ole Miss...Texan, aka I'm a dude... not an old lady that is a former Miss Texas) :beer:
Conference: SEC

#74 LT Michael Oher- 6’6 320 lbs :drool:(see avatar)
What can I say about Big Mike… Came from what we’ll call a rough background. Absent father, crack head mother, he attended 11 different schools in 9 years growing up, got lost in the Memphis school system cracks and missed a couple years of schooling. Oher is one of those high character kids that will not back down from a challenge. Intellect will be an issue for those not familiar with him but in actuality it’s not a problem. He takes his studies seriously, never misses class, is all caught up on his studies, and most importantly… he knows his blocking assignments. Oher didn’t start playing football until his junior year in high school and finally LT his senior year. His freshman season at Ole Miss, he started 10 games a Guard and has played LT since then. Size is great at 6’6 and 320 lbs, has the ability to drop some lbs if needed and can gain strength from conditioning. He is built like a tree trunk though, it’s not fat fat, he legs are muscle/bone and the size of my torso. I think he’s a good fit in most offensive systems. He’s got great power but will really see an increase once he hits an NFL training program. I think he’s a very good fit for the ZBS because he’s got good footwork and can get to the 2nd level. Very good athlete and a heck of a basketball player. He LOVES run blocking and can handle the quick pass rushers. The bad… he’s inconsistent. Has some great games where he shuts down elite defensive players of the SEC and then some games where he’s not up to snuff. He’s not raw in the sense how a lot of small school prospects are but he still needs to work on his technique. I think Oher has a chance to be a perennial pro bowl LT in the NFL and has the versatility to play either G position or even RT. Keep him at LT though b/c he can be an elite one. He has the chance to go #1 overall but Detroit is too dumb. Easily a top 5-10 pick but it just depends what the teams are looking for. Could slip due to his inconsistency but I’m still afraid we’ll be out of reach.

If I was pushing for us moving Demeco outside so we could pick up Patrick Willis… you better believe I’m in favor of moving Duane Brown to RG or RT for Oher to be our franchise LT.


#86 DE Greg Hardy (Jr.)- 6’4 265 lbs
Hardy has a lot of potential. He’s more of a prototypical 4-3 DE than these other 3-4 OLB/4-3 DE hybrids. 2007 production was phenomenal where he led the SEC and was 6th in the nation in Sacks (10), had 18.5 tackles even after missing 2 games (violated team rules). He’s a great basketball player and overall athlete, even caught 2 TD’s on offense. 2008 season he’s been battling a foot injury all season (fifth metatarsal, outermost foot bone that connects to the little toe), he had surgery and missed the first 3 games. It obviously has affected him most of the season because he's played a lot less and alternates in and out more. But he's still putting up tremendous stats. In only like 7 games played, he's got 8.5 sacks and 9.5 tackls for loss. When he’s in the game, he’s a true difference maker. He’s got a nose for the ball, can rush the passer very well and is good in run support. Can be inconsistent at times and the coaches have gotten on him for that. Will physically dominate some games and disappear in others (sounds like a typical DE though). I’m not real clear on his foot injury or his off field issues (attitude?). I can’t see his foot being a long term problem for him. Hardy is a 1st round / 2nd round talent, character issues and the lingering foot issue could make him slip a little. I wish I could see what our front office will see when their scouting him (draft fans get very little behind the scenes talk about players). If he’s available for us in the 2nd, I’d jump all over it but not in the 1st unless we trade down.

#98 DT Peria Jerry- 6’2 290 lbs
Jerry has really come on strong this year. Has a real knack for getting after the QB and making tackles for loss. He’s going to be a good UT in the pros but unfortunately we’ve already got two. I think he’s definitely a 1st round talent. I don’t see him being a top 10 pick like Dorsey or Ellis last year, but a team in need of a penetrating DT, they’ll go after him in the 1st. For 2008, he's got 17 tackles for loss and 6 sacks.

LSUtexan
12-27-2008, 02:22 PM
School: LSU
Conference: SEC

Player: Herman Johnson, OL, Senior (6'7, 386lbs)
This guy is a pure beast and has the record for being the biggest baby ever born in the state of Louisiana. He physically overpowers defensive tackles and has surprisingly quick feet and good mechanics despite his huge size. He was a huge reason why our QB, Matt Flynn, looked so good last year and helped us win a National Championship. I really hope the Texans pick him up in the second / early third round.

Player: Tyson Jackson, DE, Senior (6'5, 290lbs)
This guy is just scary and was amazing to watch when he was demolishing offenses with Glenn Dorsey. At LSU he had 86 total tackles, 16.5 tackles for losses and 14 sacks.

Player: Darry Beckwith, LB, Senior (6'1, 232lbs)
Tremendous hitter with great lateral movement and exceptional quickness to the football.

Player: Demetrius Byrd, WR, Senior (6'3, 200lbs)
Has big-play capability every time he touches the football. Has tremendous hands and is a precise route runner. He was considered one of the top receivers in college football heading into the 2008 season.

(*)Player: Charles Scott, RB, Junior (5'11, 233lbs)
I hope LSU doesn't lose him this year, but if we do he's going to be GREAT in the NFL. Has good instincts with the ball in his hands and he is a runner who can get yardage either between the tackles or on the edge.

(*)Player: Ricky Jean-Francois, DT, Junior (6'3, 289lbs)
Has pure raw power that allows his to physically overwhelm offensive lineman. This guy won the Defensive MVP in the National Championship last year.

(*)Player: Brandon LaFell, WR, Junior (6'3, 210lbs)
This guy is fast and has great hands. He was our "go-to" receiver in 2007. Plus, he grew up in Houston all his life and went to Lamar High School.

(*) There have been rumors that these guys will enter the NFL draft this year.

Hooston Texan
12-27-2008, 11:43 PM
University of Virginia:

1. Eugene "Mean Gene" Monroe (LT). Was a top ten recruit in 2005 and started for three-plus years for UVA at LT. Didn't redshirt. Played behind D'Brickashaw Ferguson as a true freshman, starting two games when D'Brick was hurt. Started one game at RT when the starter (Brad Butler, now with Buffalo) was suspended. Didn't live up to the hype until his junior year but pretty much lights out since then. I don't profess to be an OL scout, so I can't really comment on his technique/footwork, but UVA has put out some real solid OL in recent years. Strong student, really good kid by all accounts.

2. Clint Sintim (OLB). Pure pass-rushing OLB in a 3-4, so I'm not sure he'd fit our defense. Racked up the sacks for the Hoos his sophomore and junior years, but most attributed his numbers to Chris Long's presence. But he kept putting up big numbers this past year, showing he could play regardless of who lined up in front of him. Sintim was Long's roommate all four years in Charlottesville (Sintim redshirted; Long didn't), and Howie referred to him as "my fourth son". Not a burner, but is an instinctive pass rusher and a good defender against the run.

3. Cedric Peerman (RB). An ordained minister known as "Reverend Run" in some circles. A teammate described his style thusly: "Peerman runs at one speed--hard." Not elusive, but a real pile-driving runner. Speed is decent, not great. If he has the measurables, he could be exactly the type of back we'd want to complement Slaton. But I'm not sure if his game translates to the NFL.

After these three, things get dicey. The only other players worth mentioning:

4. Jon Copper (ILB). Former walk-on became a three-year starter, replacing much-hyped recruits Ahmad Brooks and others. Lacked the physical talents of his predecessors but played with discipline and understood his role. It was no accident that UVA's defense went from bad to quite good when he replaced the idiotic mega-talents that preceded him. Lacks speed.

5. Antonio Appleby (ILB). Decent four-year starter as a 3-4 ILB. Not sure if he's being seriously considered as a prospect.

And two wildcards:

Jeffrey Fitzgerald (DE). Fitzgerald was an animal his two years playing at UVA (2006 and 2007). Chris Long got all the attention at the opposite DE spot, but Fitzgerald was no slouch. Was forced to leave UVA in January 2008 because of (allegedly) a cheating scandal and transferred to Kansas State to play for Ron Prince (who recruited him when he was a UVA assistant). Now that Prince has been fired, it would not surprise me if Fitzgerald applies for the draft--he redshirted in 2005, so he's eligible by two years. By most accounts, the cheating scandal was a single bad decision by an otherwise good kid, but UVA is pretty inflexible about such matters. Al Groh still speaks fondly of Fitzgerald, and I expect he'd vouch for him. Even though he played in a 3-4 for UVA, he has the agility to play a 4-3 DE. He could be a late round steal. But I have no clue what his status will be come April.

Kevin McCabe (QB). Very controversial figure in UVA football circles. Recruited to much fanfare in 2003-04; and, if I recall the story correctly, slept on Schaub's couch for a few weeks in an effort to absorb the offense. In 2006, he was in the mix to start but evidently had a falling-out with the coaches. After one pick against Western Michigan where he changed the play at the line of scrimmage, he was told "You're done!" as he came to the sideline. Never played another down despite obvious talent. Eventually graduated and then transferred to a D-2 or D-3 school where he ripped up the joint this past year. UVA's QB play has declined steadily since Schaub left, but to most, McCabe was the best hope to return to Matt's heights. After he was shown the door, the QB play has bottomed out. Lots of rumors about why he fell out of favor. He has a puncher's chance at the combines.

Hooston Texan
12-27-2008, 11:55 PM
I truly mean this when I say that this will be the best DL that Tech has faced all season. Hardy and Jerry both demand double teams and I expect them to get after Harrell like OU did. Hopefully we'll have the same results :)


No doubt about the Ole Miss DL--they are serious business. The win over Florida was no fluke--the DL dominated Florida's offensive line.

As a sort-of aside: my wife is from Arkansas and is a devoted Razorback fan. She was heartsick about how Houston Nutt was run out of town, and more than a few Hog fans were secretly (or openly) happy when Nutt's crew beat the Hogs this past season. Nutt is a heck of a coach, and if he can recruit well in Oxford, look out . . .

YoungTexanFan
12-28-2008, 12:35 AM
This is great stuff. I love the detailed opinions we are getting, even if a few seem a little biased. Keep it up though!

Also, I would like to extend the thread to anyone who may follow a team closely that hasn't been mentioned. Maybe they aren't "your team" but you see a lot of their games due to regional coverage, kid's going there, love for an old coach, etc. I know we have more schools represented out there. I'd love to have an Alabama review. Rashad Johnson, what a player.

BattleRedToro
12-28-2008, 07:14 AM
I would love to hear from a Georgia Tech fan about DE Michael Johnson. A number of people seem to be down on him, so I'd like to hear a GT fan's perspective for more clarity.

nero THE zero
12-28-2008, 10:07 AM
I would love to hear from a Georgia Tech fan about DE Michael Johnson. A number of people seem to be down on him, so I'd like to hear a GT fan's perspective for more clarity.

I'm a GT guy, but I live in Houston so I don't get to see any of their games that aren't nationally televised. But, I do watch every game we get.

I think a lot of the criticism of Johnson has snowballed into something more myth than fact. Every game I've seen, the guy has been all over the place. He might not put up great sack numbers, but he's constantly putting pressure on the QB, getting his hands up, and wreaking havoc. He seems to bat down a couple of passes every game and consistently busts up plays in the back field. He is very long and athletic and has a great sideline to sideline game.

I think he also parallels Mario in his streakiness, which is where a lot of his criticism comes from. He's a player who can so rely on his athletic ability that he doesn't have to rely on an ever-going motor. Regardless, he's got the length, range, and athleticism to be a very disruptive DE in the NFL, and despite the sentiments of a certain (misinformed) poster on the boards, he has the production to match.

jgl35
12-28-2008, 01:48 PM
The local college where I live is called West Chester Univ. A division 2 school with around 13000 students. They belong to a 13 school Pennsylvania conference (PSAC). The most well known player to come from this conference and play pro ball is Andre Reed of the Bills.

With all that said, West Chester has a wide receiver named Mike Washington.
Washington is the PSAC conference player of the Year and a finalest for the Hill award for best player in div. 2.

Washington plays Wide Receiver. He is 1st tean div. 2 all american. He is 3rd all time in div 2 in career receptions for td's (58) and receiving yards (4715). Both these figures place him 6th all time in all levels of college football.

Washington is one of only 3 playerd to have 1000 yards receiving in all 4 years off his college career. He is the only one to do this at div. 2 or higher. He holds the div 2 record with receptions in 49 consecutive games.

Washington will play in the Cactus bowl in Kingsville, Texas on Jan. 9th.

Washington is 6 foot, 209 lbs. Home town Philadelphia, Pa

I don't know if Mike will be drafted or not. If he can do enought to gain the pro scouts attention at the Cactus Bowl with a good showing and move on to an invite to something like the Shriners East-West game, he could possibably work himself into a combine invite.

I have seen Mike play. I am far from a pro scout, but I will tell you Mike can catch the football. He is faster then the players he goes against, but if that is pro speed, I don't know.

There are always guys that come from less known schools and low draft rounds that make it in the pros. Colston of the Saints is a good example. Came from Hofstra. West Chester use to play Hofstra until last year.

Personally, I would like Washington to get a chance at the draft. His stats may give him a shot.

Ole Miss Texan
12-28-2008, 02:28 PM
This is great stuff. I love the detailed opinions we are getting, even if a few seem a little biased. Keep it up though!


Whaaat!?? Never! :)

threetoedpete
12-28-2008, 07:46 PM
Travis Evans RB TSU. Saw the replay of the Abiliene Christian -Tarleton State game. Not an alumni....however he fits the scheme and he's over 210. Good candidate for Mr. six pick if we had one.


http://www.tarletonsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=12316&SPID=716&DB_OEM_ID=2500&ATCLID=1158110&Q_SEASON=2008

mexican_texan
12-28-2008, 08:01 PM
Mark Hafter, TE, Houston

I didn't see much in run blocking, but as a recieving TE, he should be able to stick with a team. He'll probably go late round or undrafted.

DiehardChris
12-28-2008, 08:05 PM
Sam Houston State

Conference/Southland

QB/Rhett Bomar. I really don't know what round he would go in but I know he'll probably get drafted.

Seconded!

YoungTexanFan
12-28-2008, 08:07 PM
Well, this thread has fallen apart quickly. Alas.

DiehardChris
12-28-2008, 08:09 PM
Well, this thread has fallen apart quickly. Alas.

Sorry man. Other than Bomar, I can't think of anyone from my school. Definitely a good topic, though.

threetoedpete
12-28-2008, 09:48 PM
Well, this thread has fallen apart quickly. Alas.

What ? I really like Evans. 5'9", 215. Great quick feet. Makes people miss at the los...I like him. I wouldn't hire him to do my taxes. But to back up Superman, I like him.

TexansSeminole
01-02-2009, 01:08 PM
School: Florida State
Conference: ACC

Defense:

DE Everette Brown, Jr(RS) - I think most of us know about Everette Brown so I won't write much about him here. Career stats: 100 tackles, 46.5 TFL, 23 sacks. Expected draft position: 1st round.

DE Neefy Moffett, Senior - This guy has alot of talent, but it never panned out fully in Tallahassee. There have been times when he looked fantastic, but other times when he was non-existent. The coaches tried very hard to get Moffett to turn it on. Powerful player at 6-1 260. Career stats: 60 tackles, 25.5 TFL, 10 sacks. Expected draft position: 4th - 6th round.

CB Tony Carter, Senior - 4 year starter at the cornerback position. Undersized at 5-9 178. Dangerous with the ball in his hands and has made big plays in big situations in his career on INT returns and on punt returns. Has a habit of going for the INT too often. A good tackler for his size. Career stats: 138 tackles, 12.5 TFL, 27 PBU, 9 INTs. Expected draft position: 4th round.

CB Michael Ray Garvin, Senior - Doesn't add much on defense besides speed but he is a great kick returner. All-American track star, very fast. Expected draft position: 5th - 6th round.

MLB Derek Nicholson, Senior - Two-time team leader in tackles (2007-2008). Solid middle linebacker that reminds me alot of DeMeco Ryans. 6-2 233. Very good at jumping snap count and making plays behind the LOS for a LB. Good speed for a MLB, similiar to DeMeco. Always makes key tackles that save the defense and is rarely out of position. Tore ACL in his sophomore season but came back very strong to lead the team in tackles his junior and senior years. Career stats: 199 tackles, 25 TFL, 2 sacks, 4 PBU, 4 FR (2 TDs), 3 FF. Expected draft position: 3rd - 4th round.

PBU = pass breakup, TFL = tackle for loss, FR = fumble recovery, FF = forced fumble.

Offense:

WR Greg Carr, Senior - 6-6 215. Big WR with huge leaping ability. One-dimensional WR until his senior year where he worked hard over the offseason to become more versatile. Not a fast WR, however he uses body positioning well. Career stats: 148 receptions, 2574 receiving yards, 29 TDs, also caught 2 2-pt conversions. Expected draft position: 4th - 6th round.

RB Antone Smith, Senior - 5-9 190. Largely a disappointment until his senior year. Always been very fast but struggled in between the tackles. Did much better once FSU moved to a zone blocking scheme. Career stats: 492 carries, 2253 yards, 26 TDs. 58 receptions, 503 receiving yards, 1 TD. Expected draft position: 5th round.

Special Teams:

Graham Gano, Senior - Great kicker and punter. Won the Lou Groza award this year. Went 24-26 on field goals (92.3%). 5-7 over 50 yards. Didn't miss a FG below 50 yards. In 147 punts over his career his punting average is 42.1 yards. Expected draft position - 2nd - 3rd round. He's an amazing kicker AND punter. Put 3 punts inside the 3 yard line in FSU's bowl game. He also put another one inside the 10.

MannyFresh
01-02-2009, 01:32 PM
School: Oregon State
Conf: Pac-10

RB- Jacquizz Rodgers

Just a freshman, but in his first season he had a stunning upset of the then #1 ranked team in the country, the USC Trojans, when he had 36 carries for 186 yards and two touchdowns.

Rodgers broke the Pac-10 freshman rushing record during Oregon State's 34-6 victory over UCLA on November 8, 2008.

Due to a strained shoulder he did not play in the Sun Bowl, but will be ready to go next season.

was385
01-04-2009, 10:52 PM
UCONN

RB Donald Brown- Very nice powerful back. I think he should be a very solid back in the NFL. Has the speed and acceleration to hit the hole hard, good vision, GREAT stiff arm, and an amazing work ethic.

CB Darius Butler- Can keep up with anyone, great man corner. There is just nothing to really put down about his game and he hits hard to top it all off. Darius could be a very good starter in the NFL.

DE Cody Brown- nice speed rusher off the edge with some power. He's kind of undersized but should at least make for a nice situational pass rusher in the NFL.

TE Steve Brouse- Think Mark Breuner the sequel

LB Scott Lutrus- Reminds me a lot of Demecco. He's undersized but is in on every single play. He has great instincts, takes good routes to the ball, and when he gets a hand on the ball runner, he's going down. Should fill out a bit, and going into his junior season, he could really shoot into the national spotlight.

K Dave Teggart- Yes, I'm hyping the kicker. Our starting kicker SUCKED this year, so the senior gave way to this walk-on freshman. The guy hits everything. He missed a 53-yarder and had another long try blocked and those were his only two misses. He hit one 50-yarder into 20+ mph winds at one point and easily punched through a number of other long FG's. Kid has got an NFL future.

D-ReK
01-04-2009, 11:14 PM
Bomar is the only NFL talent on the SHSU roster, and at this point, he is ranked as the #1 senior QB prospect at NFLDC which is something, I guess.

I wouldn't be surprised in the least bit to see him drafted on the first day this year, especially if he is able to run the 4.65 that he thinks he can. The success of Joe Flacco could do a lot for Bomar since the biggest question in his game will undoubtedly regard the level of competition he played against.

was385
01-04-2009, 11:24 PM
I think he's gonna be one of the biggest stories this year in the draft. A lot of fans have forgotten about his debacle, but he is one of those low-risk, high-reward type projects.

mexican_texan
01-05-2009, 02:32 AM
Oooh, got one. Danny McCray, Safety out of LSU. Graduated from Westfield my freshman year. He's a big safety, hard hitter, and above average in coverage.

bah007
01-05-2009, 04:54 PM
Sam Houston St - Rhett Bomar, QB

Probably the best senior QB. Great arm strength. Above average accuracy. Very good mobility. Rarely makes bad reads but tries for the big play too often, resulting in turnovers occasionally. Quality of competition in college is a concern.

Two guys I played high school ball with:

Cameron Luke - Texas St, WR

Elite athletic ability. Was an option QB in high school, was recruited as an ATH by top programs across the nation, but chose Utah St because he was told he could play QB there. They quickly moved him to FS and he transferred. Great hands. At least 4.4 speed. Good work ethic and attitude.

Michael Goodson - Texas A&M, HB

Probably one of the most recruited prospects in high school football history. Received offers from nearly every single FBS school (thanks to him I got to meet Pete Carroll and Mack Brown just by showing up at practice). Great speed. Excellent change of direction. Superb hands out of the backfield. Not much of an inside runner but he will still dish it out if he has to. May be more suited as a Reggie Bush type slot WR/punt returner than a RB.

mexican_texan
01-05-2009, 09:40 PM
I swear I've seen Cameron Luke play before. What was his last year of HS football?

D-ReK
01-06-2009, 12:11 AM
I swear I've seen Cameron Luke play before. What was his last year of HS football?

He graduated in 2005 from Klein Collins, I believe, which would mean he played HS football last during the 2004 season.