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Texanballer
12-24-2008, 11:01 PM
Dunta Robinson
Fred Bennett
Brandon Harrison
Antwaun Molden
Dominique Barber

I think these guys at their full potential can really patch up holes on defense.

Jacques Reeves i am 50/50 on. It seems every big play happens around where he is covering.

I think we need to draft a hard hitting CB or Safety early in the draft

dalemurphy
12-24-2008, 11:58 PM
Dunta Robinson
Fred Bennett
Brandon Harrison
Antwaun Molden
Dominique Barber

I think these guys at their full potential can really patch up holes on defense.

Jacques Reeves i am 50/50 on. It seems every big play happens around where he is covering.

I think we need to draft a hard hitting CB or Safety early in the draft

Well, Jacques Reeves has easily been our best CB this season. I'm also optimistic that Dunta will get back to 100% next season and I like Fred Bennett. I like Molden's potential but am very unenthusiastic about BHarrison. He seems soft and also seems to lack instincts. I don't know what to think about Barber- I doubt he can be a quality starting safety- with his lack of speed.

Texanballer
12-25-2008, 12:08 AM
I think reeves has been a double edged sword. Great at some times and terrible at other times.

imatexan
12-25-2008, 01:56 AM
I think reeves has been a double edged sword. Great at some times and terrible at other times.

Good way to put it.

False Start
12-25-2008, 09:04 AM
I think reeves has been a double edged sword. Great at some times and terrible at other times.

More like a butter knife, hes good for what he is, but just don't cut it sometimes.

YoungTexanFan
12-25-2008, 09:09 AM
I think reeves has been a double edged sword. Great at some times and terrible at other times.

Phillip Buchanon initially?

Reeves doesn't start for many teams, which is why he came here. We gave him a starting spot because of our secondary injuries and youth. He does make some plays but he gives up a lot of plays too. He's what you want in a Nickle Back for obvious passing situations when there is better DB help on the field and he doesn't have to play the run.

Lucky
12-25-2008, 10:21 AM
More like a butter knife...
I would describe Reeves more like buttered toast...

Young secondary? Dunta will be 27 next season. As well as Reeves. That's the prime of their careers. I think Robinson will bounce back from his injury to become a good CB again. It's too much to expect Reeves to improve at this point in his career.

I really liked Bennett as a rookie. It seems the more this staff works with him, the worse he becomes. I haven't seen enough from Molden to know if he's part of the solution. I've seen enough from Faggins to know that I've seen too much.

The Texans could bring in an entire new group of safeties, as far as I'm concerned. Eugene Wilson is more of a nickel defender than a starting FS. Nick Ferguson is a hitter without range. Same for Will Demps. Brandon Harrison looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. Dominque Barber looks clueless. C.C. Brown is best forgotten.

This secondary is hemmorraging. It needs an infusion of quality free agents and draft choices. The problem is that the defensive line, in spite of all the draft choices and $$$ thrown at it, also needs attention. And quality d-linemen cost more money and require higher draft choices.

So in review, I'm not crazy about the talent in the secondary. Young, old, or in-between. I'm even less fond of the coaching they receive. And I'm not convinced that the Texans can bring enough new players in to solidify the group. If they even have the inclination to do so.

Other than that, I love the young secondary. Go Texans. Merry Christmas.

beerlover
12-25-2008, 10:28 AM
Texans like their db's strong in run support, thats just one reason Reeves value to them was so much higher than Cowboys. second he has excellent long speed something Texans really lack. Texans believe he is just beginning to realize his potential. so is 5 years 20 million really to much? All the Lancaster, Texas native does is start everygame & play every snap on defense.

Hey I would have loved to pick up Charles Godfrey in the draft (#67 Carolina) instead of Molden but he was off the board. while he has all the measureables he has yet to prove it on the field other than special teams. looking @ Antwaun rookie contract of four-years $2.455 million its clear a player has to make his money soon as he can prove himself then pursue big bucks in free agency or accept his current team new contract offer.

What hurts Reeves is safety support besides weakness of ball skills when in flight. he has improved his technique locating the ball & supports the run he is always isolated with no safety help which can burn just about any corner when a QB has too much time. so in short safety help & a better pass rush will help Reeves & Molden (when he returns next year) our db's should be fine assuming they resign Dunta Robinson.

Texans_Chick
12-25-2008, 02:24 PM
I would describe Reeves more like buttered toast...

Young secondary? Dunta will be 27 next season. As well as Reeves. That's the prime of their careers. I think Robinson will bounce back from his injury to become a good CB again. It's too much to expect Reeves to improve at this point in his career.

I really liked Bennett as a rookie. It seems the more this staff works with him, the worse he becomes. I haven't seen enough from Molden to know if he's part of the solution. I've seen enough from Faggins to know that I've seen too much.

The Texans could bring in an entire new group of safeties, as far as I'm concerned. Eugene Wilson is more of a nickel defender than a starting FS. Nick Ferguson is a hitter without range. Same for Will Demps. Brandon Harrison looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. Dominque Barber looks clueless. C.C. Brown is best forgotten.

This secondary is hemmorraging. It needs an infusion of quality free agents and draft choices. The problem is that the defensive line, in spite of all the draft choices and $$$ thrown at it, also needs attention. And quality d-linemen cost more money and require higher draft choices.

So in review, I'm not crazy about the talent in the secondary. Young, old, or in-between. I'm even less fond of the coaching they receive. And I'm not convinced that the Texans can bring enough new players in to solidify the group. If they even have the inclination to do so.

Other than that, I love the young secondary. Go Texans. Merry Christmas.

Same goes for Amobi Okoye.

He starts off his rookie season with a goodly number of sacks for a DT. And since then not so much.

beerlover
12-25-2008, 02:30 PM
Same goes for Amobi Okoye.

He starts off his rookie season with a goodly number of sacks for a DT. And since then not so much.

Amobi has played better the last two games :smiliedance:

powerfuldragon
12-25-2008, 03:35 PM
I would describe Reeves more like buttered toast...


he always lands buttered side down?

ArlingtonTexan
12-25-2008, 04:29 PM
Dunta Robinson
Fred Bennett
Brandon Harrison
Antwaun Molden
Dominique Barber

I think these guys at their full potential can really patch up holes on defense.

Jacques Reeves i am 50/50 on. It seems every big play happens around where he is covering.

I think we need to draft a hard hitting CB or Safety early in the draft

Bennett- has been up and down. sometimes looks like a borderline pro-bowler, others can't even stay on the field.

Harrison- has the physical tools, but is not physical enough and makes too many mental mistakes despite the fact he is in position more than most of safeties we have had here.

Molden- Not played enough on defense to make any judgement, but at least should be a good special-teamer.

Barber- see Molden.

Reeves- Good enough to be frustrating. Can stay with the WR and has some ability in the run game, but mises more plays than he makes. See why the Texans bought into him and why Dallas let him go at the same time.

Robinson- Probably a little overrated by Texans fans in terms of his pure corner performance, but from a distance seems like the most obvious leader and toughest guy on the defense.

Not going to comment on the "veteran" safeties as they are all dime a dozen type players who have limitations.

Fox
12-25-2008, 04:55 PM
Bennett - I'm a fan. Still has upside. He's got good size and ball skills. He can jump with larger receivers to fight for the ball. My problem with him is he struggles in transitions... ie. he seems to fall or lose his man when they cut sometimes.

Molden - More of that upside word. Saw him play as a CB maybe once this season. Good combo of size and speed. Solid on special teams. We spent a 3rd on him, yet they still don't trust him enough to play more than occasionally. He needs some PT next year after a second camp.

Faggins - Special teamer, decent athleticism. He can fill in for spot duty but shouldn't start on a regular basis other than a nickel or dime back.

Dunta - Has never been a "lock down" corner, but he's decent in coverage and is the emotional team leader. Fantastic in run support, and his big hits get his team mates pumped up. The entire D seems more confident when he's on the field. Great athleticism pre-injury, has bounced back quite well this year but still seems to be shaking off the rust. I'd like to see us keep him for another year, because he's far too competitive to not return to form, IMO.

Reeves - I have a much higher opinion of him than the rest of the board apparently. I think he's a decent starting CB. Everyone knows his pro's and con's so skip the rest of this if you like. He sticks with his man better than any other CB on our roster, the problem is he has poor ball skills when he's not breaking towards the LOS, and does a poor job of getting his head turned and finding the ball (although he looked better at this the second half of the season). My personal opinion is there's some bias against him based on preconceived notions developed from his time in Dallas. Every time he gets burned in the game he gets burned on the boards. Guess what, every CB gets burned, even for a couple big plays a game, it happens. I don't see nearly the level of aggression towards Dunta or Fred when they give up a big play, and they give one up nearly as often as he does. Just my perspective.

Eugene Wilson - Another player who I seem to like more than everyone else. I think he makes a good starter for us. He doesn't miss many last chance tackles, he has good range, he's a smart player, and he has good ball skills. I want to keep him around at FS, I don't see a need to actively search for a replacement.

Nick Ferguson - Has filled in well for us for a street FA. Solid tackler and great in run support, it's his pass coverage that leaves a lot to be desired.

Brandon Harrison - Not a fan. Not great speed, lacks aggression.

Overall, I'm alright with our secondary. I'd like to see us find another safety to pair with Wilson, resign Dunta, and see what we have in Molden. Other than that I think they'll be fine with a better pass rush to help them out. Go out and get a monster DT and/or pass rush specialist DE and watch our secondary magically improve.

beerlover
12-25-2008, 04:55 PM
Bennett- has been up and down. sometimes looks like a borderline pro-bowler, others can't even stay on the field.

his breaks are not clean & decisive, can recover using length or get beat ugly.

Harrison- has the physical tools, but is not physical enough and makes too many mental mistakes despite the fact he is in position more than most of safeties we have had here.

does not have speed, but neither did Lynch. has to be a student of game film, play smart & in position.

Molden- Not played enough on defense to make any judgement, but at least should be a good special-teamer.

while we don't know much about his cover skills @ cb I can tell you he has the measureables you look for. very unfortunate about his injury, maybe the Texans should have just taken off the kid gloves a little sooner anyway?

Barber- see Molden.

Barber is completely different player, very physical & aggressive at least what I've seen. he is also one of the more competitive db's will throw his body around but subject to penalties too.

Reeves- Good enough to be frustrating. Can stay with the WR and has some ability in the run game, but mises more plays than he makes. See why the Texans bought into him and why Dallas let him go at the same time.

work in progress but does have the long speed & run support ability they like.

Robinson- Probably a little overrated by Texans fans in terms of his pure corner performance, but from a distance seems like the most obvious leader and toughest guy on the defense.

agree, hate to rain on anybodys parade but he is still an exceptional nickle he just can't cover & stretch down the field like he used to. in other words great is short space, anticiapation, moxie/savy, qucik cuts but smaller with less speed in long coverage.

Not going to comment on the "veteran" safeties as they are all dime a dozen type players who have limitations.

if CC Brown wants more money he'll have to find another team (FA) but if not he will still be a Texan. same goes for Faggins..


if anyone has paid attention the Texans like to spread their assests around in the draft & FA. last year they added three in the secondary first Reeves in free agency then drafted Molden & Barber. this year less is needed numbers wise but still a high priority pick like 1st or 2nd so they come out of the offseason with one new face sure to crack the roster.

Hervoyel
12-25-2008, 09:12 PM
I can't put my finger on exactly when it happens but in every defensive backs "lifespan" he reaches a point where you go "OK, that's what he's going to be doing the rest of his career" and if it's good enough then it's good enough and if he sucks, well he's always going to suck.

Prior to reaching that point they all look the same to me and that is "inconsistent". Bennett is exactly that and is still on the "good side" of this "point". Another year or two of playing the way he did this season and he's very likely to be a journeyman for the duration of his stay in the NFL.

Dunta is very much a great #2 CB and I don't mean to take anything away from him because you want him to be on the field because of the fire he brings to the defense. He makes other players around him play harder (good stuff) but he's not a #1 CB in the NFL and he's never going to be one. He's past the point where you expect him to get much better than he is right now (excepting of course the injury which he'll continue to recover from and I think get all the way back to where he was before he got hurt). Paired with a legitimate #1 Dunta is money. Without a credible threat on the other side of the field he's just not good enough to be our #1. With Aaron Glenn he was sharp. With Buchanon and Petey he's adequate at the postion and boosts those around him.

Jacques Reeves has been better than I thought he'd be but I don't think we're going to get much better than we've seen so far out of him. I think he's on the wrong side of that critical point in his career that I'm talking about. The system might suit him better than the one in Dallas but he is what he is and no power in the universe is ever going to make him more aware of the ball. He's a guy who can run fast.

Petey Faggins had a few years where he continued to get better but once he hit that point he was still short the necessary skills and talent to start in this league. He's always been depth and nothing more. He's not even good depth. He's acceptable depth. He should not make this team next year if we're drafting the way we should be.

Moldon and Barber are both too wet behind the ears to have an opinion on.

Harrison seems to have no natural instinct for the position. He plays like he's fast enough, big enough, and strong enough but with no feel for what he's doing. He's not going to make it.

Nobody else in our secondary is really worth mentioning. It's a testament to how thin in talent and poorly coached we are there that Eugene Wilson can come in and not only look great in comparison to everything have but also improve the play of the guys around him by passing on second-hand lessons from whoever Belichick has coaching his DB's. Jon Hoke has stayed about three seasons too long IMO.

Norg
12-25-2008, 10:57 PM
we havent seen much of Dominique Barber

i wonder if we are going to keep or cut him

infantrycak
12-26-2008, 08:09 AM
Dunta is very much a great #2 CB and I don't mean to take anything away from him because you want him to be on the field because of the fire he brings to the defense. He makes other players around him play harder (good stuff) but he's not a #1 CB in the NFL and he's never going to be one. He's past the point where you expect him to get much better than he is right now (excepting of course the injury which he'll continue to recover from and I think get all the way back to where he was before he got hurt). Paired with a legitimate #1 Dunta is money. Without a credible threat on the other side of the field he's just not good enough to be our #1. With Aaron Glenn he was sharp. With Buchanon and Petey he's adequate at the postion and boosts those around him.

Okay, I know folks around here hate Cowboy analogies (and yes position switch) but anyway . Charlie Waters has always credited Cliff Harris for most of his INTs, saying Cliff's presence made the receivers run different routes and the QBs select their plays such that he was in a position to make the grab. If the Texans had a great cover corner on one side, Dunta would be exactly who you want back there as the "weak" guy they are going to challenge.

PS--Cliff Harris deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.

dalemurphy
12-26-2008, 08:22 AM
Okay, I know folks around here hate Cowboy analogies (and yes position switch) but anyway . Charlie Waters has always credited Cliff Harris for most of his INTs, saying Cliff's presence made the receivers run different routes and the QBs select their plays such that he was in a position to make the grab. If the Texans had a great cover corner on one side, Dunta would be exactly who you want back there as the "weak" guy they are going to challenge.

PS--Cliff Harris deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.


Well, our best hope is that Molden is that guy and by 2010 he'll have that level of respect. He has the tools. Unfortunately, those guys don't grow on trees and I don't see us acquiring one in free agency or in a trade- I don't see any available. And, my guess is the early round picks are going to focus on DL and safety help.

infantrycak
12-26-2008, 08:31 AM
Well, our best hope is that Molden is that guy and by 2010 he'll have that level of respect. He has the tools. Unfortunately, those guys don't grow on trees and I don't see us acquiring one in free agency or in a trade- I don't see any available. And, my guess is the early round picks are going to focus on DL and safety help.

This is the first off-season for the Texans where I would actually like them to play in the high dollar free agent sweepstakes. Make a run at both Asumgha and Haynesworth. You aren't going to get both--heck probably not either--but either would transform the D we have seen (if we had a DC who could take advantage of it.) Not saying we are one player away from the super bowl, but I think we are one of those two players away from playing an entirely different, and more effective, defensive scheme.

nunusguy
12-26-2008, 09:16 AM
I think right now we have far more questions/uncertainies about our secondary than we certainties/assurances about them, both collectively and individually.
How far back is D-Rob and will he get to his pre-2007 injury level ? That so complicats the evaluation of his market value from the Texans' perspective if not his, which potentially is the biggest impediment to him remaining a Texan.
And remaining on the subject of corners & season-ending injuries, I dunno from nothin 'bout the Moulden injury, but fracture of a DBs leg is very serious as we know all too well.
And does Reeves still have upside ? If what we see is all we get, then this is another FA screw-up by Smith.
Bennet appears the best value of all, atleast as a 4th-round pick there's not that much invested and he certainly has his impressive moments when he displays real talent ?

ObsiWan
12-26-2008, 09:17 AM
This is the first off-season for the Texans where I would actually like them to play in the high dollar free agent sweepstakes. Make a run at both Asumgha and Haynesworth. You aren't going to get both--heck probably not either--but either would transform the D we have seen (if we had a DC who could take advantage of it.) Not saying we are one player away from the super bowl, but I think we are one of those two players away from playing an entirely different, and more effective, defensive scheme.

Heretofore I was not a supporter of this line of thinking. But after seeing what Asomugha did to Andre Johnson, and based on the many posts to that affect (hey, I never watch the Raiders, sue me) realizing that he does that to everybody, I'm coming to the realization that acquiring him would be the best F/A we could make investment. Although somehow I doubt that Al Davis would let the reincarnation of Mike Haynes get out of Oakland; but shouldn't stop us from throwing in our bid.

Man, if we got him, that would raise the game of every other player in the secondary. Dunta's too competitive not to want to be the best CB on the field so he'll raise HIS game. The younguns (Bennett & Molden) would have an textbook example of what a true shutdown CB should play like. Asomugha appears to be the kind of guy who plays to be the absolute best at his position, unlike Haynesworth, who I suspect is playing for the big payday (admittedly, I could be totally wrong about Albert). Add to that the fact that Nnamdi is just the kind of "good, cleancut guy" that McNair seems to adore...

I see no downside.

I just wonder if we have enough salary cap chips to really be in this game.

Hervoyel
12-26-2008, 01:36 PM
This is the first off-season for the Texans where I would actually like them to play in the high dollar free agent sweepstakes. Make a run at both Asumgha and Haynesworth. You aren't going to get both--heck probably not either--but either would transform the D we have seen (if we had a DC who could take advantage of it.) Not saying we are one player away from the super bowl, but I think we are one of those two players away from playing an entirely different, and more effective, defensive scheme.


Absolutely right. Asomugha on the other side of Dunta turns Dunta into the guy everyone thinks walks on water. I love having Dunta Robinson in our secondary and I wasn't trying to knock him or anything. I just think he's the perfect compliment to a "true #1 cornerback". He would feast off of the opportunities he'd see with a guy like Asomugha on the other side. I'd go so far as to say we'd stand a very good chance of putting a pair of cornerbacks into the Pro Bowl with the two of them playing together (assuming we could muster any kind of pass rush whatsoever).

Hervoyel
12-26-2008, 01:38 PM
I see no downside.

I just wonder if we have enough salary cap chips to really be in this game.


Yeah, we do. If we don't make any sort of effort to sign this guy then it's because the Texans don't want to go out and get him. It has nothing to do with the money.

threetoedpete
12-26-2008, 01:46 PM
Aren't you guys worried that Haynesworth is going to be another Sean Gilbert type player ? Once the money is in the bank will we see Albert again anytime in his Texans tenure ? Inquiring minds wish to know. This has all the foot prints of Weaver and Smith and Walker and so on and so on. Color me scared to death of the guy.

dalemurphy
12-26-2008, 02:35 PM
I think right now we have far more questions/uncertainies about our secondary than we certainties/assurances about them, both collectively and individually.
How far back is D-Rob and will he get to his pre-2007 injury level ? That so complicats the evaluation of his market value from the Texans' perspective if not his, which potentially is the biggest impediment to him remaining a Texan.
And remaining on the subject of corners & season-ending injuries, I dunno from nothin 'bout the Moulden injury, but fracture of a DBs leg is very serious as we know all too well.
And does Reeves still have upside ? If what we see is all we get, then this is another FA screw-up by Smith.
Bennet appears the best value of all, atleast as a 4th-round pick there's not that much invested and he certainly has his impressive moments when he displays real talent ?


DRob looks like he only lacks confidence in the knee. I think he'll be fine.

Regarding Reeves, he's quite young and this was his first full year starting. I'm not sure why everyone is down on his ability to improve. He has the physical tools and was pretty good this year.

Regarding Molden's ankle, I asked John McNair about it and he said it was a minor break and there's no cause for concern. He will be back easily before training camp.

If it was possible to go get an elite CB, then I'd do it. I just don't think it is. And, I think that our top 4 CBs could be a strength of this team going forward- I'd rather improve the pass rush and the safeties. Doing that would do more for that group than any FA CB IMO.

dalemurphy
12-26-2008, 02:37 PM
Aren't you guys worried that Haynesworth is going to be another Sean Gilbert type player ? Once the money is in the bank will we see Albert again anytime in his Texans tenure ? Inquiring minds wish to know. This has all the foot prints of Weaver and Smith and Walker and so on and so on. Color me scared to death of the guy.

Yes, there is no way I'd throw elite money at that guy. Even Tennessee hasn't been willing to do that- they franchised him instead. If he becomes available, it's because Tennessee was willing to let him go. Besides, I don't like the idea of signing a guy that was insulting our QB only a few months ago.

infantrycak
12-26-2008, 06:43 PM
Yes, there is no way I'd throw elite money at that guy. Even Tennessee hasn't been willing to do that- they franchised him instead. If he becomes available, it's because Tennessee was willing to let him go. Besides, I don't like the idea of signing a guy that was insulting our QB only a few months ago.

Haynesworth will be available. Last year the Titans signed off on a deal to not franchise him again if he made the pro-bowl, which he did.

I'm not into reading minds. What I know is for the last two years he has been the best DT in the league and if his play was anything resembling that next to Mario, QBs would be wearing Depends when they played the Texans.

thunderkyss
12-26-2008, 08:53 PM
If we signed Asumgha, or if Fred Bennett becomes a true starte, Dunta Robinson would be our new Petey.

Dunta without a doubt was our best DB in run support, but he's worthless in coverage. I truly like Faggins better in a pure CornerBack role.

Now, for a while, I believed the Texans weren't interested in an Albert Haynesworth type player. We've almost gone out of our way, to remove any DT with real size off our team, and look for undersized guys. We looked for guys who could beat offensive guards with speed. That's who TJ was supposed to be, and that's who Amobi is supposed to be, and that's who Deljuan looks like he'll be.

Drafting Okam has me scratching my head. I'm glad we got him late, it'll give us time to get him on the field... since he isn't costing us much. Hopefully he'll dominate in the NFL, like he did in college. I'm not seeing that right now, he can't even get on the field.

But we either need a big badass on the LOS, or a DC who will attack the QB with Blitzes on a more frequent basis.

LonerATO
12-27-2008, 01:42 AM
I would describe Reeves more like buttered toast...

Young secondary? Dunta will be 27 next season. As well as Reeves. That's the prime of their careers. I think Robinson will bounce back from his injury to become a good CB again. It's too much to expect Reeves to improve at this point in his career.

I really liked Bennett as a rookie. It seems the more this staff works with him, the worse he becomes. I haven't seen enough from Molden to know if he's part of the solution. I've seen enough from Faggins to know that I've seen too much.

The Texans could bring in an entire new group of safeties, as far as I'm concerned. Eugene Wilson is more of a nickel defender than a starting FS. Nick Ferguson is a hitter without range. Same for Will Demps. Brandon Harrison looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. Dominque Barber looks clueless. C.C. Brown is best forgotten.

This secondary is hemmorraging. It needs an infusion of quality free agents and draft choices. The problem is that the defensive line, in spite of all the draft choices and $$$ thrown at it, also needs attention. And quality d-linemen cost more money and require higher draft choices.

So in review, I'm not crazy about the talent in the secondary. Young, old, or in-between. I'm even less fond of the coaching they receive. And I'm not convinced that the Texans can bring enough new players in to solidify the group. If they even have the inclination to do so.

Other than that, I love the young secondary. Go Texans. Merry Christmas.

Well we might be in luck as Hoke could be gone since his brother just took over SDSU

Lucky
12-27-2008, 10:35 AM
Well we might be in luck as Hoke could be gone since his brother just took over SDSU
Didn't Hoke turn down the Michigan DC position last season? I can't see Hoke leaving without being asked to. And I can't see that happening with Kubiak in charge.

beerlover
12-27-2008, 10:40 AM
Reeves reflects some nice bit of coaching. speed & more athletic LB's would change the way Richard Smith plays his secondary with more help over the top from safety instead of up in run support :specnatz:

Texan in Japan
12-27-2008, 11:21 AM
Gosh, what a great discussion. One of the best I've read lately.

I agree w/ a lot of you that Reeves isn't that bad...I've been hopeful w/ his improved ball skills over the course of the season. I'm not sure why Bennett has become inconsistent after a great rookie year. I believe we'll wish we had given Molden some PT at CB (much like Diles last yr).

I can't see us signing both Dunta and Nnamdi. I guess the question would be if you could only have one, who would you take?

LonerATO
12-28-2008, 01:41 AM
Gosh, what a great discussion. One of the best I've read lately.

I agree w/ a lot of you that Reeves isn't that bad...I've been hopeful w/ his improved ball skills over the course of the season. I'm not sure why Bennett has become inconsistent after a great rookie year. I believe we'll wish we had given Molden some PT at CB (much like Diles last yr).

I can't see us signing both Dunta and Nnamdi. I guess the question would be if you could only have one, who would you take?

I would go with Nnamdi any day of the week. He's never had a major injury and teams are afraid to throw at him

Texanballer
12-28-2008, 03:28 PM
Dominique Barber and Brandon Harrison stepped up today and made nice plays.

Jacque Reeves also did well

Texanballer
12-28-2008, 04:08 PM
i just remembered Dominque Barber had a sick sack