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BattleRedToro
12-10-2008, 08:00 AM
Here is a list of possible Defensive Coordinator candidates, in no particular order, that are available or could be available for the Texans to sign during the offseason to replace Richard Smith.

Mike Nolan
Gregg Williams
Jim Bates
Romeo Crennel
Marvin Lewis
Wade Phillips
Sean McDermott
Jim Johnson
Rob Ryan
Raheem Morris
Greg Robinson
Rod Marinelli
Frank Bush
Jerry Gray
Mike Waufle


Jim Johnson and Rob Ryan have done nothing to warrant losing their jobs, but with a new coaches due in Oakland, and possibly Philadelphia next year there is no telling what may happen.

Feel free to add more names to the list. I thought we could also flesh out a little more information about each name on the list as well.

Silver Oak
12-10-2008, 08:17 AM
that's a heck of a list of Who's Who in the world of DC's!

if it wouldn't set the team back any in our plans, then I would really like Rick Smith and Coach Kubiak to interview many of those names when they become available.

toronto
12-10-2008, 10:55 AM
Ryan will get a HC offer somewhere - deserves it for sure.

One thing I did notice, the job ex Jags DC Mike Smith has done with ATL, while at the same time his former pupils have regressed badly.

Wade Phillips and Marvin Lewis would both be compelling choices for you guys, but I suspect they will both want a breather after they get canned.

Wolf6151
12-10-2008, 11:40 AM
Add Raheem Morris to that list, he's the secondary coach at Tampa Bay under Monte Kiffin and I think he'd be a good choice as well.

ChampionTexan
12-10-2008, 11:50 AM
Ryan will get a HC offer somewhere - deserves it for sure.



I'm thinking different.

Since he's been on the Raiders staff (2004), the Raiders have finished 30th, 27th, 3rd, 22nd in total defense, and thru 13 games this season, they stand 26th. Four years of the bottom 1/3 aren't cancelled out by one top ten. Granted, it's the Raiders, but that's part of the deal too - not exactly the world's greatest training ground to be an NFL HC.

ChampionTexan
12-10-2008, 11:52 AM
Here is a list of possible Defensive Coordinator candidates, in no particular order, that are available or could be available for the Texans to sign during the offseason to replace Richard Smith.

Mike Nolan
Gregg Williams
Jim Bates
Romeo Crennel
Marvin Lewis
Wade Phillips
Sean McDermott
Jim Johnson
Rob Ryan

Jim Johnson and Rob Ryan have done nothing to warrant losing their jobs, but with a new coaches due in Oakland, and possibly Philadelphia next year there is no telling what may happen.

Feel free to add more names to the list. I thought we could also flesh out a little more information about each name on the list as well.

If all this represents is a compilation of names, and not a wish list, then Greg Robinson (AKA: The little engine that could) probably needs to be included. Not my choice by any stretch of the imagination, but likely to be on any list that Kubiak and Smith would start with. Rod Marinelli too.

Hagar
12-10-2008, 01:33 PM
Basically, this is a list of head coaches that are or are going to be fired this offseason. Most of whom have probably been abused so badly that they are basket cases now. I mean really, when you get you fanny spanked on the internet (http://www.bangcartoon.com/2008/ifsandbutts.htm), it has to do something to your head.

Most of these guys should take a year off. Morris and McDermott appears to be the only fresh name on the list.

michaelm
12-10-2008, 01:45 PM
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Killer Bee
12-10-2008, 02:04 PM
I’d like to see Rod Marinelli, Sean McDermott, Frank Bush, or Raheem Morris.

Marinelli coached the Tampa D-line in its hay day and the players love playing for him. He would be great. He would coach up the strengths of our defense.

McDermott is young and would bring an aggressive Jim Johnson system with him. I believe he’s been learning that system for about 10 years.

Bush is probably the most likely to get the job and I’m fine with that being it’s a new system.

I don’t know much about Morris but at least he’s coaching a Tampa defense that has a lot of pride. Our front 7 personnel would complement the Tampa 2 system very well. He could possibly be the new fresh face that takes the league by storm. ????

I wouldn’t want any 3-4 coaches or any recently fired head coaches. That eliminates about half of the candidates for me, Mike Nolan being the exception because he’s also a very intriguing candidate.

TexanSam
12-10-2008, 02:30 PM
Jerry Gray perhaps? He was interviewed for our head coach position after Capers left. He was DC in Buffalo from 2001-2005 and has been the secondary coach in Washington since 2006.

HJam72
12-10-2008, 02:34 PM
Your avatar really bothers me.
I do, however, support your right to display it.

It really bothers me that you support things that bother you, but I support your right to support them. :mcnugget:

Texanmike02
12-10-2008, 02:38 PM
Your avatar really bothers me.
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Bothers me that I have to swear to protect his right to display it. Shouldn't he be a soccer fan if that's how he feels?


Mike

awtysst
12-10-2008, 02:55 PM
Couple more names:

Mike Waufle-Dline coach for the Giants. he loses Strahan and Osi and he still produces a constant pressure on the opposing QB. I would love to see what he could do in Htown.

Gregg Williams: He is currently the D coordinator in Jax and could be gone at the end of the year. He is someone who has had solid top notch D's wherever he goes. Under him, the Bills and Redskins were extremely stingy on the defensive side of the ball. He is a more seasoned coach and may not be available. However, if he is, we should certainly look hard at him.
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gtexan02
12-10-2008, 03:10 PM
Couple more names:

Mike Waufle-Dline coach for the Giants. he loses Strahan and Osi and he still produces a constant pressure on the opposing QB. I would love to see what he could do in Htown.

Gregg Williams: He is currently the D coordinator in Jax and could be gone at the end of the year. He is someone who has had solid top notch D's wherever he goes. Under him, the Bills and Redskins were extremely stingy on the defensive side of the ball. He is a more seasoned coach and may not be available. However, if he is, we should certainly look hard at him.
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I vote Waufle. THat guy can coach up a DL

Mr. White
12-10-2008, 03:30 PM
Considering what we've got invested in the D Line, I'd like to see a D Line coach get the job that works the 4-3. We need somebody to coach up TJ and Okoye.

The guy from the Giants sounds like a good....maybe the guy from the Vikings.

Blake
12-10-2008, 03:36 PM
Considering what we've got invested in the D Line, I'd like to see a D Line coach get the job that works the 4-3. We need somebody to coach up TJ and Okoye.

The guy from the Giants sounds like a good....maybe the guy from the Vikings.

I see where you're going with this, but I don't want to focus on a skill like being a D-line coach over the best defensive coordinator. Yes, TJ and Okoye are our DT's now, but that may not be true in 2-3 years.

Lets just get the best coordinator possible and if he can work some magic on TJ and Okoye then great.

Dan B.
12-10-2008, 07:59 PM
Here is a list of possible Defensive Coordinator candidates, in no particular order, that are available or could be available for the Texans to sign during the offseason to replace Richard Smith.

Mike Nolan
Gregg Williams
Romeo Crennel
Marvin Lewis
Wade Phillips
Sean McDermott
Jim Johnson
Rob Ryan

Jim Johnson and Rob Ryan have done nothing to warrant losing their jobs, but with a new coaches due in Oakland, and possibly Philadelphia next year there is no telling what may happen.

Feel free to add more names to the list. I thought we could also flesh out a little more information about each name on the list as well.

Bold = I wouldn't mind 'em.

Underline = I want nothing to do with 'em.

I love Philly's defensive style and would like to have Johnson most of all. I don't think he's going anywhere though. I like Nolan a lot as well, and think he could do well if we gave him a lot of autonomy with regards to the players he brings in.

I really don't want Romeo Crennel or Marvin Lewis. Neither has been able to do anything with their own teams' respective defenses. It would be as if Kubiak, who is a supposed offensive guru, were building one of the worst offenses in football in Houston.

Wade Phillips is an interesting name to throw out. At first glance I though "no way on earth!" But after a second I think he could work here. I always thought he was getting a raw deal in Dallas. Besides, the big knock on him is that he can't win in the playoffs. That's not our worry at the moment.

BattleRedToro
12-10-2008, 08:07 PM
Bold = I wouldn't mind 'em.

Underline = I want nothing to do with 'em.

I love Philly's defensive style and would like to have Johnson most of all. I don't think he's going anywhere though. I like Nolan a lot as well, and think he could do well if we gave him a lot of autonomy with regards to the players he brings in.

I really don't want Romeo Crennel or Marvin Lewis. Neither has been able to do anything with their own teams' respective defenses. It would be as if Kubiak, who is a supposed offensive guru, were building one of the worst offenses in football in Houston.

Wade Phillips is an interesting name to throw out. At first glance I though "no way on earth!" But after a second I think he could work here. I always thought he was getting a raw deal in Dallas. Besides, the big knock on him is that he can't win in the playoffs. That's not our worry at the moment.

What about Sean McDermott? He has been studying under Jim Johnson for some time. If you like Jim Johnson, I would think you would like McDermott as well. Of course, I would expect that you would like Jim Johnson more.

BattleRedToro
12-10-2008, 08:15 PM
I went ahead and added the suggested names to the list.

On a side note I didn't originally put Frank Bush's name on the list because he is currently part of the Texans staff.

Dan B.
12-10-2008, 08:21 PM
What about Sean McDermott? He has been studying under Jim Johnson for some time. If you like Jim Johnson, I would think you would like McDermott as well. Of course, I would expect that you would like Jim Johnson more.

It's not that I don't like McDermott. I think I worded my OP wrong. The bolded picks aren't just choices I wouldn't mind. They are my top listed choices. If the name isn't underlined, I am willing to go with that coach. I'm not huge on Williams, but I think Washington has had some success on defense over the years and wouldn't be upset if they choose him.

McDermott seems like he has the right mentality, though it's hard to tell since he hasn't called the shots yet. I would think if he gets the nod he would have much less say over draft picks, FA's, and assistants than would one of the other "name" coaches. I don't know whether that is a good or bad thing -- I do like many of the recent people that we have brought in, and I do think most of the blame for our failures this season defensively are Smith's fault. But I would be quite comfortable with giving Johnson or Nolan independence to build their own defense. I'd be excited about our future with either one leading the defense.

DocBar
12-10-2008, 08:30 PM
Your avatar really bothers me.
I do, however, support your right to display it.

Bothers me that I have to swear to protect his right to display it. Shouldn't he be a soccer fan if that's how he feels?


Mike An upside down American flag is a recognized sign of distress. I find that to be particularly applicable to our current political situation. At least that's how I take it. I'm sure you guys know this, but I've been to the bar tonight.

euro-Texan
12-14-2008, 04:41 PM
Does anyone think Smith is still in control??

ziggy29
12-14-2008, 04:43 PM
Does anyone think Smith is still in control??
If not, I hope whoever *is* in control now takes his job next year.

The Pencil Neck
12-14-2008, 04:53 PM
Does anyone think Smith is still in control??

Well, I'm really pleased but... we dodged a couple of bullets there. Kerry Collins missed some wide open receivers.