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eriadoc
12-02-2008, 11:22 AM
For the second game in a row, Richard Smith dialed up the blitz last night, and it worked. He actually had a few clever defensive plays mixed in as well. He proved last night that, while these players aren't the best, they can be put in better positions than what he's put them in before. He basically proved last night that he's been a terrible defensive coordinator for the first 9 games.

I am 100% on the Fire Smith bandwagon now.

GP
12-02-2008, 11:30 AM
For the second game in a row, Richard Smith dialed up the blitz last night, and it worked. He actually had a few clever defensive plays mixed in as well. He proved last night that, while these players aren't the best, they can be put in better positions than what he's put them in before. He basically proved last night that he's been a terrible defensive coordinator for the first 9 games.

I am 100% on the Fire Smith bandwagon now.

He's done this every year for 3 years.

I keep making the same posts on this topic, every year, for the past three years: Why is he JUST now dialing up the creative playcalling?

My only theory is that he's trying to be conservative in the early-going of each season, trying to limit the risk-taking early on. And then he's unleashing the beasts when it's apparent that we're out of the playoff race. There's nothing to lose, at this point, so he throws caution to the wind. Posters' replies to this theory is that it's really due to Richard not having quality players, or that there are injuries that hamper his playcalling...that he HAS to be reserved and cautious due to circumstances outside his control. Hogwash.

Each year he saves his job with this tactic. There's no excuse for it. You can be aggressive all year long, Richard. If your defense gets burned, you get burned. But either way, the potential is there to get 30+ hung on your defense. So wouldn't it be wise to dial up the pressure the whole year and let the chips fall where they may?

Vinny
12-02-2008, 11:31 AM
For the second game in a row, Richard Smith dialed up the blitz last night, and it worked. He actually had a few clever defensive plays mixed in as well. He proved last night that, while these players aren't the best, they can be put in better positions than what he's put them in before. He basically proved last night that he's been a terrible defensive coordinator for the first 9 games.

I am 100% on the Fire Smith bandwagon now.
I just assume that he has lost some responsibility after the defense continued to give up 30+ points a game....these "new" blitzing schemes have come after the season was in the tank and mean nothing. In most management situations if you don't fire the guy in charge you take down some of his responsibility and give it to the other 825 assistant head coaches we have.

Second Honeymoon
12-02-2008, 11:39 AM
yeah, the Texans don't even play to win until there is nothing left to play for...lame.

as for Smith, the defense has looked better but that just makes Richard Smith look worse. I have held the belief that we have had enough talent and personnel to play NFL defense aggressively, we just never had the nads to do so. Now that Smith knows he is gone (and he better be), he is actually playing to win and being aggressive....too bad that attitude is about 60 games too late.

and it was nice to see Mario come to play more than he has lately. maybe he should bring that intensity every week considering the huge pile of money he is paid to play football for us. i love Mario, but we need him to become a leader for us and to be our Ray Lewis. Our on the field leader both in his example AND his voice. He needs to bring the intensity a little more consistently....oh and he could use some help. We need a good defensive coaching staff to impart their wisdom to Mario so he can share and utilize that knowledge himself.

oh and it was nice to see Ryans make some plays too but the poor guy is hurt. its quite obvious and was even obvious last night. he can't 'finish' right now and probably needs to shut it down or risk injury which could jeopardize the 2009 campaign.

At least the Texans are winning and Weaver is actually making plays. The guy has been a no show for 2.7 years and now we are seeing him play like we thought he would when he was signed

eriadoc
12-02-2008, 11:54 AM
yeah, the Texans don't even play to win until there is nothing left to play for...lame.

as for Smith, the defense has looked better but that just makes Richard Smith look worse. I have held the belief that we have had enough talent and personnel to play NFL defense aggressively, we just never had the nads to do so. Now that Smith knows he is gone (and he better be), he is actually playing to win and being aggressive....too bad that attitude is about 60 games too late.

and it was nice to see Mario come to play more than he has lately. maybe he should bring that intensity every week considering the huge pile of money he is paid to play football for us. i love Mario, but we need him to become a leader for us and to be our Ray Lewis. Our on the field leader both in his example AND his voice. He needs to bring the intensity a little more consistently....oh and he could use some help. We need a good defensive coaching staff to impart their wisdom to Mario so he can share and utilize that knowledge himself.

oh and it was nice to see Ryans make some plays too but the poor guy is hurt. its quite obvious and was even obvious last night. he can't 'finish' right now and probably needs to shut it down or risk injury which could jeopardize his 2009 career.

At least the Texans are winning and Weaver is actually making plays. The guy has been a no show for 2.7 years and now we are seeing him play like we thought he would when he was signed

I'll disagree with you on that. Mario has been tearing it up every week. The sack numbers aren't there, but if you iso on him, he is doing his job and then some. It's the other slugs on the line that haven't been doing well, in general. Deljuan Robinson and Tim Bulman have probably been our two best D-line guys outside of Mario, and that's pretty pathetic.

headsplint
12-02-2008, 12:04 PM
I'll disagree with you on that. Mario has been tearing it up every week. The sack numbers aren't there, but if you iso on him, he is doing his job and then some. It's the other slugs on the line that haven't been doing well, in general. Deljuan Robinson and Tim Bulman have probably been our two best D-line guys outside of Mario, and that's pretty pathetic.

Yeah I don't think it's fair to say he hasn't been bringing every week, all I see is him pressuring the QB every game. He is always in the backfield causing a disruption.

threetoedpete
12-02-2008, 12:05 PM
There is only one captain of the ship. And it isn't Richard Smith. Richard Smith is doing exactly, precisely what he is told to do. Either you take Kubiak and his warts or you don't. What's happened over the last couple of games the non athletic will backer got hurt and they were forced to go with the Adibi. Nothing more. Reeves is playing better and Weaver's playing better.

They still can't block anyone in short yardage situations and on the goal line. After three years of it....they ain't changing. Meyer is your starter ..no matter what. Kubiak is going with four man pressure cover seven. Why ? They've been doing it in Denver that way for fourty years. And it isn't going to change next season either. Bring only four, cover with seven...your ulcers...just the way it is.

Second Honeymoon
12-02-2008, 12:06 PM
I'll disagree with you on that. Mario has been tearing it up every week. The sack numbers aren't there, but if you iso on him, he is doing his job and then some. It's the other slugs on the line that haven't been doing well, in general. Deljuan Robinson and Tim Bulman have probably been our two best D-line guys outside of Mario, and that's pretty pathetic.

the young guys have been great and maybe moves should have been made earlier. now that they have started giving guys a chance, the former starters are forced to elevate their game in order to get playing time (ex.Weaver's recent form)

I am not saying that Mario sucks or that he hasn't played well, I just think he has lacked the intensity that I expect from the leader of the defense. he needs to play with a chip on his shoulder every game not just when its on national television. If he can bring that intensity against the Titans in Reliant, i'll be happy. It won't be national television, but its TNT. the true rivalry.

:mario:

SheTexan
12-02-2008, 12:07 PM
He can go and take baby Shanny with him for all I care. I don't know who was calling that goal line stance after SS got ran out of bounds, BUT, to run him again THREE freaking times right up the middle, when even the most uneducated fan in the stands knows the boy is NOT A POWER BACK, just reeks of incompetance to me. Shanny or Kubes, I don't know, BUT, my section of the BP was ready to bolt to the sidelines and shove Kubiaks play card where the sun don't shine!!!

As for RS, that's a NO brainer!! The man needs to be somewhere other than HOUSTON, unless he wants to coach high school ball.

Second Honeymoon
12-02-2008, 12:15 PM
He can go and take baby Shanny with him for all I care. I don't know who was calling that goal line stance after SS got ran out of bounds, BUT, to run him again THREE freaking times right up the middle, when even the most uneducated fan in the stands knows the boy is NOT A POWER BACK, just reeks of incompetance to me. Shanny or Kubes, I don't know, BUT, my section of the BP was ready to bolt to the sidelines and shove Kubiaks play card where the sun don't shine!!!

As for RS, that's a NO brainer!! The man needs to be somewhere other than HOUSTON, unless he wants to coach high school ball.

i think Kubiak was trying to reward Slaton and it just got a little out of hand. Slaton needs some help and hopefully we can find someone in the 1st half of the draft that could come in and be our LenWhale White.

Hervoyel
12-02-2008, 12:25 PM
He can go and take baby Shanny with him for all I care. I don't know who was calling that goal line stance after SS got ran out of bounds, BUT, to run him again THREE freaking times right up the middle, when even the most uneducated fan in the stands knows the boy is NOT A POWER BACK, just reeks of incompetance to me. Shanny or Kubes, I don't know, BUT, my section of the BP was ready to bolt to the sidelines and shove Kubiaks play card where the sun don't shine!!!

As for RS, that's a NO brainer!! The man needs to be somewhere other than HOUSTON, unless he wants to coach high school ball.

That was indeed a terribly called series of plays. I hope someone grills Kubiak over that because that poor series at the goal line could very well have been the difference in the score against a better team. You don't "reward" a player by giving him the ball 3 times in a row. You get the TD the most expedient way possible and then reward the team with a "W" if you do things the right way.

eriadoc
12-02-2008, 12:25 PM
He can go and take baby Shanny with him for all I care. I don't know who was calling that goal line stance after SS got ran out of bounds, BUT, to run him again THREE freaking times right up the middle, when even the most uneducated fan in the stands knows the boy is NOT A POWER BACK, just reeks of incompetance to me. Shanny or Kubes, I don't know, BUT, my section of the BP was ready to bolt to the sidelines and shove Kubiaks play card where the sun don't shine!!!

As for RS, that's a NO brainer!! The man needs to be somewhere other than HOUSTON, unless he wants to coach high school ball.

Well, the flip side of that is all the posters on here that complained when we needed short yardage to seal the game against Indy (Rosencopter) - they all posted how incompetent Kubiak was for not just running it up the gut on that play. These same posters have also complained about putting the ball in Rosenfail's hands in the red zone, noting his red zone turnovers. So if you don't trust your QB in the red zone, and you don't have a RB that can get short yardage, what do you do?

Seems to me that Kubiak is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't on this message board.

eriadoc
12-02-2008, 12:26 PM
i think Kubiak was trying to reward Slaton and it just got a little out of hand. Slaton needs some help and hopefully we can find someone in the 1st half of the draft that could come in and be our LenWhale White.

I'm hoping for Coffee out of Alabama. I've watched every one of their games this year, and early on, I was hoping he'd slip in under the radar, but I think he'll be a little higher profile now, especially if Alabama somehow beats Florida. Coffee would be a perfect back to pair with Slaton, IMO.

Anyway, not to derail my own thread ....

DBCooper
12-02-2008, 12:30 PM
I hope it really happens.

Second Honeymoon
12-02-2008, 12:31 PM
Well, the flip side of that is all the posters on here that complained when we needed short yardage to seal the game against Indy (Rosencopter) - they all posted how incompetent Kubiak was for not just running it up the gut on that play. These same posters have also complained about putting the ball in Rosenfail's hands in the red zone, noting his red zone turnovers. So if you don't trust your QB in the red zone, and you don't have a RB that can get short yardage, what do you do?

Seems to me that Kubiak is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't on this message board.

a quality coach has a lot of options even if he doesn't have the prototype goal-line back. you can run bootlegs, pitch plays, shovel passes, playaction with a tackle eligibile, jumpball to AJ, and many others. Kubiak was being way too conservative and way too stubborn.

Second Honeymoon
12-02-2008, 12:33 PM
Coffee would be nice but hopefully later in the draft. I am hoping that Jenkins or Orakpo falls to us in the draft. The more we win the less likely it becomes, but you never know.

SheTexan
12-02-2008, 12:55 PM
So if you don't trust your QB in the red zone, and you don't have a RB that can get short yardage, what do you do?

Give Moats a shot at it. SS is fantastic, BUT, he's no Earl Campbell. The boy had just made a fantastic run, had 300+lb LBs shove his cute little butt in the dirt, and Kubes brings him back for more punishment! We've finally found that RB with a spark of life that just ignites the team, and the fans. Why abuse him? Find him some help during the off season and lets start making plans to see him in the Pro Bowl NEXT year!!

Sorry, this threads about our DC. But, had to vent!:)

Vinny
12-02-2008, 12:57 PM
Seems to me that Kubiak is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't on this message board.with thousands of members and hundreds of active posters who'd a thuk we would have multiple opinions on this huh? I think it's nice we aren't all dittoheads when it comes to sports opinion and just run with John McClain's opinions or the Texans shiny happy website mantras...now if we can just find a way to take that out of our politics.... :wild:

leebigeztx
12-02-2008, 01:19 PM
I'm hoping for Coffee out of Alabama. I've watched every one of their games this year, and early on, I was hoping he'd slip in under the radar, but I think he'll be a little higher profile now, especially if Alabama somehow beats Florida. Coffee would be a perfect back to pair with Slaton, IMO.

Anyway, not to derail my own thread ....

I'm not going to derail your thread, but if u want that bigger,power guy, why not trade a 4th for Mike Bush? The guy from Jacksonville, Greg Jones would be that kind of guy. Also Davenport is a big quick feet back. No matter what big back you want, if the center is on skates and allows penetration, its not going to matter.

Vinny
12-02-2008, 01:21 PM
I'm not going to derail your thread, but if u want that bigger,power guy, why not trade a 4th for Mike Bush? The guy from Jacksonville, Greg Jones would be that kind of guy. Also Davenport is a big quick feet back. No matter what big back you want, if the center is on skates and allows penetration, its not going to matter.

why? No way the Raiders part with Bush for a 4. Davenport was already a FA and we passed and if you haven't noticed Greg Jones gets very few carries in short yardage...let's like pass on those ideas.

I will say that I agree with you on Myers....he was blown up to high heaven in the red zone...just owned.

badboy
12-02-2008, 01:22 PM
He can go and take baby Shanny with him for all I care. I don't know who was calling that goal line stance after SS got ran out of bounds, BUT, to run him again THREE freaking times right up the middle, when even the most uneducated fan in the stands knows the boy is NOT A POWER BACK, just reeks of incompetance to me. Shanny or Kubes, I don't know, BUT, my section of the BP was ready to bolt to the sidelines and shove Kubiaks play card where the sun don't shine!!!

As for RS, that's a NO brainer!! The man needs to be somewhere other than HOUSTON, unless he wants to coach high school ball.Agree 100%. After Slaton's carry to the red zone, I said they would send him to the right of center. Also said I'd fake him to the right and dump to TE fading to left of end zone. Who ever called those plays need to apologise to the team. Our O line is not built to blow back a determined D line in the RZ. I fluctuate between wanting a power runner or DE or FS in first round. Need a QB also but none available when we pick.

spurstexanstros
12-02-2008, 01:24 PM
I was sitting in the upper deck directly acroccs from def cordinator's booth and I predicted the times when they wer gonna throw to Matt Jones almost 80% of the time ( all others it was same route but to different players) I do not see how Smith would not pick up on that formation and tell saftey to help out. fortunately plays were made by our much maligned secondary...speaking of which did yall notice Petey was not on the field?

threetoedpete
12-02-2008, 01:35 PM
i think Kubiak was trying to reward Slaton and it just got a little out of hand. Slaton needs some help and hopefully we can find someone in the 1st half of the draft that could come in and be our LenWhale White.

Or he was giving Myers and Brisiel a chance to prove they can play in the green zone. The theme is over and over with this guy, Gary Kubiak. What astounds me is no one else sees it. When was the last time we went for it on a fourth and short ? Been a while.

Gary Kubiak is all about one thing and one thing only. In a pinch, can I count on you ?

Slaton, Myers and Brisiel answered that one last night about plays on the goal line in critical situations. No he can't. I bet we won't see that sting of three plays again until he needs to find out once again in '09. Just as we've not seen a fourth and short attempt in a long while.

maddogmrb
12-02-2008, 01:42 PM
He can go and take baby Shanny with him for all I care. I don't know who was calling that goal line stance after SS got ran out of bounds, BUT, to run him again THREE freaking times right up the middle, when even the most uneducated fan in the stands knows the boy is NOT A POWER BACK, just reeks of incompetance to me. Shanny or Kubes, I don't know, BUT, my section of the BP was ready to bolt to the sidelines and shove Kubiaks play card where the sun don't shine!!!

As for RS, that's a NO brainer!! The man needs to be somewhere other than HOUSTON, unless he wants to coach high school ball.

I think the problem is not so much that Slaton isn't a power back but that the big uglies up front just don't get the job done in power blocking situations.

threetoedpete
12-02-2008, 01:49 PM
I was sitting in the upper deck directly across from def coordinator's booth and I predicted the times when they wer gonna throw to Matt Jones almost 80% of the time ( all others it was same route but to different players) I do not see how Smith would not pick up on that formation and tell saftey to help out. fortunately plays were made by our much maligned secondary...speaking of which did yall notice Petey was not on the field?

That's not the problem....the problem is, and you can see it on the replay, Revees is afraid to turn his head. You can see his chin Turning to go find the ball..but the mind takes over and he fronts Jones instead. His first instincts were correct. Turn your head....but his mind over ruled it. Face up to the QB he is outstanding....with his back to the ball he is awful. So, is he being coached this or are these demons that only Reeves can slay ? We'll know in April if we're drafting another young CB.

threetoedpete
12-02-2008, 01:54 PM
I think the problem is not so much that Slaton isn't a power back but that the big uglies up front just don't get the job done in power blocking situations.

What gave you that clue ? Would it be on third an short on the goal line their Mier jacked up our Meyers and drove him like a wet dish rag two and half yards back into our back feild. All I can say is it is lucky for Meyer that Mier is a hetrosexual. The term abused is not to strong for the results.

Mr teX
12-02-2008, 03:00 PM
It's a combo of many things imo. A few things i've noticed.

1) The younger guys are getting a shot & are playing their asses off. i don't know about you guys but i was saw Adibi making plays all over the place last night. DelJuan Robinson isn't blowing things up but he's holding his ground & getting off the offensive lineman & to the RB faster than anyone else is.

2) Dunta's back in the starting role & is essentially taking away 1 side of the field for qb's thereby making our secondary look better than it really is. The last few qb's we've faced have only gone after dunta 3-4 times total. So my question is, is it a sign of respect they have for him that many other NFL qb's are going to follow or is it just the garbage ones we've faced the last couple of games afraid to go over there. we shall see next sunday.

3) Smith has changed his scheme to allow for more blitzing. We can speculate on why that is all day, but he has finally come around to the fact that he needs to unleash his guys & let them make some plays. Sitting back & thinking that our secondary is good enough to cover up guys almost never works for any team. Hell u might as well run prevent if you're gonna try to do that.

It's terrible that we always seem to "come on" late in season when nothing matters, but 1 thing i will say is that maybe the reason for that is b/c we're constantly plugging in new personnel on defense as opposed to offense which has seemed to stay relatively consistent with it's personnel.