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El Tejano
11-28-2008, 07:52 PM
Here in Austin they were saying that Colt met with an NFL agent and his lawyer to see what round he would go in if he were to enter the NFL draft.

I have to say that I wouldn't mind drafting him and letting him sit for a year maybe even two.

I think if Colt wins the heisman and National Championship you gotta draft him if you're Mcnair. This would make the 2nd opportunity you had to draft the local hero and if you pass that up you may not have anymore fans or the entire state of Texas will just hate you. Plus with us not having a winning season you do need to make the choice that sales tickets this time.

Sal Rosenberg
11-28-2008, 07:55 PM
Here in Austin they were saying that Colt met with an NFL agent and his lawyer to see what round he would go in if he were to enter the NFL draft.

I have to say that I wouldn't mind drafting him and letting him sit for a year maybe even two.

I think if Colt wins the heisman and National Championship you gotta draft him if you're Mcnair. This would make the 2nd opportunity you had to draft the local hero and if you pass that up you may not have anymore fans or the entire state of Texas will just hate you. Plus with us not having a winning season you do need to make the choice that sales tickets this time.

I like Colt a lot but I think he should finish his senior season regardless.I think Sam Bradford is NFL ready

mexican_texan
11-28-2008, 08:00 PM
No, no, no, no, dear God, no. He's a college QB, not an NFL QB.

mexican_texan
11-28-2008, 08:01 PM
I like Colt a lot but I think he should finish his senior season regardless.I think Sam Bradford is NFL ready
I agree with you on that one. Fortunately for Bradford, he can work on becoming a better player for at least another season.

headsplint
11-28-2008, 08:03 PM
I think if Colt wins the heisman and National Championship you gotta draft him if you're Mcnair. This would make the 2nd opportunity you had to draft the local hero and if you pass that up you may not have anymore fans or the entire state of Texas will just hate you.

First I love The Horns and Colt.

But I don't think he HAS to draft him. Besides look how well that 1st hometown hero guy is working out.

I think Colt could make a great NFL QB, but I don't see us going that route in the first round anyway.

Honoring Earl 34
11-28-2008, 08:06 PM
Colt would probably be a good QB for the WCO .

Sal Rosenberg
11-28-2008, 08:31 PM
Colt would probably be a good QB for the WCO .

Very True!

nero THE zero
11-28-2008, 08:37 PM
If the Jeff Garcia comparisons are apt, he's a guy I'd love to have. Of course, him being a "local guy" has nothing to do with that and is a silly and irrelevant argument that I wish people would stop using.

El Tejano
11-28-2008, 09:02 PM
IMO, this would be the draft to do it though. There really isn't this stand out guy at any position. The talent level is nowhere it has been over the last 3 years. That's just my opinion.

Also, noone is saying Colt has to come in and start right now. However let's face it. Schaub hasn't proven himself durable enough, and has turned the ball over several times along with Rosenfels (sp). The message gets sent loud and clear with a draft pick like Colt McCoy.

I'm not saying Mcnair really has to make this choice and would get the same flack as he did with Vince but I am saying that he is losing fan interest with each non winning season and he needs to do something that will put people in the seats. A pick like this makes that happen. That being said, I believe Orakpo could make the same kind of impact, although some may be sad to see yet another DL being picked.

ChampionTexan
11-28-2008, 09:27 PM
Here in Austin they were saying that Colt met with an NFL agent and his lawyer to see what round he would go in if he were to enter the NFL draft.

I have to say that I wouldn't mind drafting him and letting him sit for a year maybe even two.

I think if Colt wins the heisman and National Championship you gotta draft him if you're Mcnair. This would make the 2nd opportunity you had to draft the local hero and if you pass that up you may not have anymore fans or the entire state of Texas will just hate you. Plus with us not having a winning season you do need to make the choice that sales tickets this time.

http://right-thoughts.us/images/uploads/not_this_****_again.jpg

TexansSeminole
11-28-2008, 10:20 PM
Of course, him being a "local guy" has nothing to do with that and is a silly and irrelevant argument that I wish people would stop using.

I agree. What the hell difference does it make where he comes from?

This notion that mcnair will lose fans in the state for not taking him is laughable.

The only thing fans or potential fans care about is wins. That's how it will always be.

Goldensilence
11-28-2008, 10:25 PM
I like Colt but I think he'd be better served staying another year and continue to work with Major Applewhite. He's a good prospect and I'd like to see him continue to add weight to his frame.

Regardless I think we need to look at a serious QB prospect this coming draft. If nothing else we're going to need a replacement for Sage and it'd be nice if he could develop into something more.

bah007
11-28-2008, 11:09 PM
I agree with you on that one. Fortunately for Bradford, he can work on becoming a better player for at least another season.

Bradford is eligible for the draft and if he entered he would probably be a top 15 pick.

I like Colt. I think he will be a decent NFL QB.

But you don't draft a guy just because he went to a certain college. That's ridiculous.

mussop
11-29-2008, 06:44 AM
I agree with you on that one. Fortunately for Bradford, he can work on becoming a better player for at least another season.

Why would he go back for another year when he is going to be the #1 rated QB in this draft not to mention the potential loss of millions of dollars when
the NFL bargaining agreement bieng redone?

Colt would be a nice pick up by us in the third round or later. This team has to many holes to fill to use a high draft pick on a backup QB right now.

nero THE zero
11-29-2008, 07:04 AM
I agree. What the hell difference does it make where he comes from?

This notion that mcnair will lose fans in the state for not taking him is laughable.

The only thing fans or potential fans care about is wins. That's how it will always be.

It's code for, "draft this guy because he went to my school."

Regardless, I'll take a greater talent from Idaho over a local kid ten times out of ten.

Lucky
11-29-2008, 10:52 AM
Colt to the draft? :yawn:

axman40
11-29-2008, 11:37 AM
What about Nate Davis from Ball St?
:fans:

El Tejano
11-29-2008, 09:11 PM
My wanting to get Colt only has everything to do with the fact that he has put a Texas Longhorn team whom noone even thought would be in the same sentence as National Championship, and put them at the top.

The whole thing about Mcnair drafting him is because should Colt win the heisman and the National Championship it puts Mcnair back in the same situation he was in just two years ago. From an owner's perspective, you gotta do something to give fans something to get excited about. Matt Schaub or Rosenfels hasn't done anything to give you that excitement. Colt is prospect enough to make you at least entertain the thought. You can't even compare him to Vince Young because he's smashed Vince Young's record (if Colt were to win a National Championship) and yes they are all passing records.

Look, I'm not saying that it would be the wisest pick. I'm just saying it makes sense and I don't think it's the unwisest pick either (unwisest is simply a word I don't have time to justify). When you think of grooming a QB, this would be a good one to do that with.

Like I said before I'd like to draft Orakpo, Moreno or some good DB, but to me this draft kind of gives you an opportunity to groom a stud and so long as Schaub and Sage keep throwing to the other team, I'm going to keep looking for that stud QB that is going to lead us to the promised land. Heck, if Bradford is there take him.

bah007
11-29-2008, 11:14 PM
If we want a QB in this draft it should be Nate Davis.

mexican_texan
11-29-2008, 11:19 PM
My wanting to get Colt only has everything to do with the fact that he has put a Texas Longhorn team whom noone even thought would be in the same sentence as National Championship, and put them at the top.

The whole thing about Mcnair drafting him is because should Colt win the heisman and the National Championship it puts Mcnair back in the same situation he was in just two years ago. From an owner's perspective, you gotta do something to give fans something to get excited about. Matt Schaub or Rosenfels hasn't done anything to give you that excitement. Colt is prospect enough to make you at least entertain the thought. You can't even compare him to Vince Young because he's smashed Vince Young's record (if Colt were to win a National Championship) and yes they are all passing records.

Look, I'm not saying that it would be the wisest pick. I'm just saying it makes sense and I don't think it's the unwisest pick either (unwisest is simply a word I don't have time to justify). When you think of grooming a QB, this would be a good one to do that with.

Like I said before I'd like to draft Orakpo, Moreno or some good DB, but to me this draft kind of gives you an opportunity to groom a stud and so long as Schaub and Sage keep throwing to the other team, I'm going to keep looking for that stud QB that is going to lead us to the promised land. Heck, if Bradford is there take him.
The franchise saved itself from making a huge mistake by not drafting VY. Why would they go back and do that mistake by drafting McCoy? The city knows nothing about football that our FO doesn't know.

ATXtexanfan
11-30-2008, 12:25 AM
colt doesn't have a pro game, sorry

bah007
11-30-2008, 09:15 PM
colt doesn't have a pro game, sorry

He has a pro arm.

He's a smart kid and he makes his reads quickly.

He's accurate. Deadly accurate actually. He is going to shatter the record for completion percentage in a season.

If he proves he can take snaps from under center then why can't he play in a west coast offense?

Honoring Earl 34
11-30-2008, 09:22 PM
colt doesn't have a pro game, sorry

Look at the Bears and Vikings QBs and tell me Colt couldn't earn an NFL paycheck .

The big thing with McCoy to me is his arm strength which I'm betting is better than Schaub's .

bah007
11-30-2008, 09:30 PM
Look at the Bears and Vikings QBs and tell me Colt couldn't earn an NFL paycheck .

The big thing with McCoy to me is his arm strength which I'm betting is better than Schaub's .

Colt's arm strength was a real question mark during his first two seasons at Texas.

But he's doing something right this year. He is getting incredible zip on his throws.

mexican_texan
11-30-2008, 09:31 PM
He has a pro arm.

He's a smart kid and he makes his reads quickly.

He's accurate. Deadly accurate actually. He is going to shatter the record for completion percentage in a season.

If he proves he can take snaps from under center then why can't he play in a west coast offense?
VY was the most accurate passer in the nation at UT.

bah007
11-30-2008, 09:32 PM
VY was the most accurate passer in the nation at UT.

No. He had the highest efficiency rating.

Just like the NFL's QB rating stat, it doesn't give a real idea of who the best QB really is.

Hell, Jimmy Clausen is in the middle of the pack in the country in passing efficiency and he has thrown nearly 20 INTs.

Plus, being the most accurate passer in history is still more impressive than being the most accurate for one season.

TimeKiller
12-01-2008, 07:30 AM
Can't we just draft Tim Tebow instead of Tim Tebow-lite?

Mr teX
12-01-2008, 07:50 AM
i could see him emerging as a solid pro if he gets in the right coach/system. The arm strength is there & i don't think that picking up the pro game would be a problem for him but he does make questionable decisions at times & i don't know whether his body could hold up for a 16 game + season.

Silver Oak
12-01-2008, 09:00 AM
...& i don't know whether his body could hold up for a 16 game + season.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Lone_Star_Showdown_2006_Colt_McCoy_injured.jpg/800px-Lone_Star_Showdown_2006_Colt_McCoy_injured.jpg

MojoMan
12-01-2008, 09:04 AM
but he does make questionable decisions at times & i don't know whether his body could hold up for a 16 game + season.

That sounds like a good working description of either Schaub or Rosenfels.

mexican_texan
12-01-2008, 09:20 AM
That sounds like a good working description of either Schaub or Rosenfels.
We could get Sage and Rosenfels in one compact package

bah007
12-01-2008, 09:23 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Lone_Star_Showdown_2006_Colt_McCoy_injured.jpg/800px-Lone_Star_Showdown_2006_Colt_McCoy_injured.jpg

Stay classy Aggies.

Yes, just like Schuab he is vulnerable to getting injured on late hits and cheap shots.

mexican_texan
12-01-2008, 09:26 AM
Stay classy Aggies.

Yes, just like Schuab he is vulnerable to getting injured on late hits and cheap shots.
Speaking of which...is McGee slated to be drafted?

bah007
12-01-2008, 09:29 AM
Speaking of which...is McGee slated to be drafted?

I doubt it.

Due to his lack of growth as a QB over four years, and his injury history with his throwing shoulder I would say no.

He is a good athlete, but bad coaching in college ruined whatever potential he may have had.

mexican_texan
12-01-2008, 09:32 AM
I doubt it.

Due to his lack of growth as a QB over four years, and his injury history with his throwing shoulder I would say no.

He is a good athlete, but bad coaching in college ruined whatever potential he may have had.
You could say that about a lot of guys Kubiak coached over the years.

Mr teX
12-01-2008, 09:34 AM
That sounds like a good working description of either Schaub or Rosenfels.

yeah but 6'5 234 (schaub) & 6'4 224 (rosenfels) is a long way from McCoy's alleged 6'3 210. I suppose we'd stand to lose nothing if we were to pick him up given the situation with our fine china qb's.

mexican_texan
12-01-2008, 09:35 AM
yeah but 6'5 234 (schaub) & 6'4 224 (rosenfels) is a long way from McCoy's alleged 6'3 210. I suppose we'd stand to lose nothing if we were to pick him up given the situation with our fine china qb's.
When's the last time Rosenfels was injured? When he broke his hand in '06?

Texan_Bill
12-01-2008, 09:38 AM
When's the last time Rosenfels was injured? When he broke his hand in '06?

If you count pride, Sunday October 5, 2008. The legend of Rosencopter begins.

Mr teX
12-01-2008, 09:42 AM
When's the last time Rosenfels was injured? When he broke his hand in '06?

Yeah, the dude knocked himself out for the season on a failed extra point opportunity. That's nearly as worse as the gramatica ACL tear on a celebration.

Other than that....

1) he really hasn't had an opportunity to play wherever he's been...thus minimizing the chances that he would get hurt b/c he's on the pine.

2) teams know they don't have to hit him to be effective. Sooner or later he'll hit them between the numbers with a "wtf" pass; As texans fans we know all to well with him.

bah007
12-01-2008, 11:32 AM
You could say that about a lot of guys Kubiak coached over the years.

If you're thinking the Texans should get him then I have to say no way. Alex Brink showed far more potential in college than McGee did.

Honoring Earl 34
12-01-2008, 12:23 PM
If you're thinking the Texans should get him then I have to say no way. Alex Brink showed far more potential in college than McGee did.

I could see him with the Texans as an undrafted free agent .

threetoedpete
12-01-2008, 11:45 PM
Colt would probably be a good QB for the WCO .

That's what I'm thinking also Earl. You can look it up if you want to...Last time the Lions were worth a damn...they had a Texas QB just exactly, precisely like Colt McCoy. My fearless prediction....Colt will have more NFL rings than any one in the next three classes after it's all said and done.

I can't tell him what he should do. Hard to leave college football paradise. However...the kind of money we're talking about changes families prospects for generations. He won't go in the first round just because of his size.

mexican_texan
12-01-2008, 11:52 PM
If you're thinking the Texans should get him then I have to say no way. Alex Brink showed far more potential in college than McGee did.
It should shut up some of these "we need homegrown talent" guys. They know they just want guys from their alma matter playing with the Texans.

bah007
12-01-2008, 11:56 PM
It should shut up some of these "we need homegrown talent" guys. They know they just want guys from their alma matter playing with the Texans.

Those are the worst kinds of fans. Seriously.