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RipTraxx
11-26-2008, 03:05 PM
With the way the Eggles season is going...Andy Ried might be out of a job. Leaving blitz happy DC Jim Johnson on the market.

Giants DC Steve Spagnolo was the Eagles LB coach before he went to the big apple.....He implemented the same aggressive defense that has made the G-men the team to beat.

I figure what better way to get the most out of our talent then to go to the SOURCE of this great scheme.

IMO opinion this is the way to go....

So for now im a Texans fan, and whoevers playing the Philly.:bat:

nero THE zero
11-26-2008, 03:45 PM
Uh yea... that'd be a no-brainer.

BattleRedToro
11-26-2008, 03:59 PM
I would love to have Jim Johnson here, and I imagine he would love coaching some of the talent the Texans have on the Defense, especially the D-Line.

mexican_texan
11-26-2008, 04:13 PM
He should be expensive...I'm putting in twenty bucks.

Bubbajwp
11-26-2008, 04:33 PM
Its pretty possible that he gets the job if Andy Reid is gone.

HJam72
11-26-2008, 04:42 PM
Burn, Andy, burn! :fans:

Wolf6151
11-26-2008, 04:52 PM
There's an asistant under Jim Johnson named Sean McDermott that's been with Philly for 10 yrs. now. McDermott coaches the Secondary/Safties and if he's good enough to work for Jim Johnson for 10 yrs. he should be good enough for us.

Lucky
11-26-2008, 05:08 PM
With the way the Eggles season is going...Andy Ried might be out of a job.
If true, I'd like the Texans to dump Kubiak and hire Reid. Oh, and bring Jim Johnson with him.

barrett
11-26-2008, 05:11 PM
hmmmm now we're getting interesting. isn't johnson 400 years old? does he have any ties to Texas or Kubiak? I wiki'd him. No connection. Went to school in Missouri, played in Buffalo, coached in Arizona, Seattle and Indy... no way he shows up here.


Now this McDermott guy is young and that's a different situation. He has no ties either. But I fear that another risk with a Defensive guy with no history as a Cooridnator puts us in a similar situation that we have now.

Except the guy we have now has 3 years of experience as a Dcooridinator.

barrett
11-26-2008, 05:12 PM
If true, I'd like the Texans to dump Kubiak and hire Reid. Oh, and bring Jim Johnson with him.

uh.... no.

PapaL
11-26-2008, 06:05 PM
Johnson has never been the problem in Philly. If Reid leaves, no way Johnson is asked to leave with him.

HJam72
11-26-2008, 06:14 PM
Johnson has never been the problem in Philly. If Reid leaves, no way Johnson is asked to leave with him.

Party pooper. :photos:

Second Honeymoon
11-26-2008, 06:15 PM
jim johnson is going to have his choice of gigs. andy reid would also be a great replacement for Scrubiak as well. not ideal, but definitely someone who can build a program and motivate the troops. that is something that Kubiak is a failure at.

Corrosion
11-26-2008, 06:29 PM
Johnson has never been the problem in Philly. If Reid leaves, no way Johnson is asked to leave with him.

He may not be asked to leave but most of the time when a team gets a new HC he likes to bring in his own people ....



I sure wouldnt be upset with Johnson calling the shots for the Texans D ... one hell of an improvement over Dick ....

False Start
11-26-2008, 06:32 PM
Jim Johnson would be awesome, but I highly doubt he would come here because I think he maybe next in line for the HC job like Bubba said. As long as Dick Smith hits the bricks I'll be happy with whomever they replace him with, they couldn't possibly be any worse.

drewmar74
11-26-2008, 06:54 PM
Except the guy we have now has 3 years of experience IMPERSONATING a Dcooridinator.

:tiphat:

Fixed it for you.

Trap_Star
11-26-2008, 06:57 PM
if Reid gets fired, I would think Steve Spagnolo would be at the top of the Eagles' list for HC...and he might want to keep Jim Johnson as his DC.

Maddict5
11-26-2008, 07:14 PM
If true, I'd like the Texans to dump Kubiak and hire Reid. Oh, and bring Jim Johnson with him.


ummm why?.. have you watched reid lately? while kubiak makes gameuff the guys as bad as there is in the nflday mistakes this guys a complete dumbass and has had 10 yrs of practice.. hurry up, timeouts, all that st

not to mention, philly's team is alot more talented than ours yet is still underperforming badly

needless to say id be pretty pissed if it happened

steelbtexan
11-26-2008, 07:23 PM
He may not be asked to leave but most of the time when a team gets a new HC he likes to bring in his own people ....



I sure wouldnt be upset with Johnson calling the shots for the Texans D ... one hell of an improvement over Dick ....

agreed

steelbtexan
11-26-2008, 07:24 PM
if Reid gets fired, I would think Steve Spagnolo would be at the top of the Eagles' list for HC...and he might want to keep Jim Johnson as his DC.

A likely senario

Mari-OWNED!
11-27-2008, 11:16 AM
What about Rod Marinelli? He'll most likely get the boot as the HC of the Lions. I'd love for him to be our DC. What he did in Tampa Bay would be awesome over here. He definitely could help our defensive line.

Corrosion
11-27-2008, 11:49 AM
What about Rod Marinelli? He'll most likely get the boot as the HC of the Lions. I'd love for him to be our DC. What he did in Tampa Bay would be awesome over here. He definitely could help our defensive line.

Dunno if I want any part of anything the Lions have touched .... their level of suckage is liable to rub off ..... lol

drewmar74
11-27-2008, 12:07 PM
What about Rod Marinelli? He'll most likely get the boot as the HC of the Lions. I'd love for him to be our DC. What he did in Tampa Bay would be awesome over here. He definitely could help our defensive line.

Wasn't he just the D-line coach there? And his defense in Detroit has sucked and that's running the Tampa-2 with a handful of former Tampa players.

Lucky
11-27-2008, 12:51 PM
ummm why?.. have you watched reid lately?
I've seen too much of Kubiak, lately. One guy is a proven winner. One is a proven offensive coordinator. Reid has won 60% of the games he's coached, won 5 division titles in 10 seasons, and has taken his team to the Super Bowl. I'd list Gary Kubiak's "accomplishments", but I don't want to get depressed on Thanksgiving. Really, there's no factual basis to conclude that Kubiak is a better head coach than Andy Reid.

Goldensilence
11-27-2008, 01:24 PM
I don't think Andy is going anywhere myself but if the Eagles did ax him I'd love to see him come here in some fashion. I'd like to see Shannahan relegated back to QB duties and Reid come in as OC. That is of course assuming Kubiak is here next year.

Jim Johnson is 67 right now. While I would love the guy to come in as a HC at his age could he handle the rigors of the job? I am more hip to McDermott coming over as DC. We'll have a lot of options at the end of the season and I am not really sure we need someone else who hasn't had a track record of success. This team needs another proven mind on this staff and I'd love for them to have some HC experience.

mexican_texan
11-27-2008, 01:33 PM
I've seen too much of Kubiak, lately. One guy is a proven winner. One is a proven offensive coordinator. Reid has won 60% of the games he's coached, won 5 division titles in 10 seasons, and has taken his team to the Super Bowl. I'd list Gary Kubiak's "accomplishments", but I don't want to get depressed on Thanksgiving. Really, there's no factual basis to conclude that Kubiak is a better head coach than Andy Reid.
I think Kubiak has more rings than Reid.

Hervoyel
11-27-2008, 02:19 PM
I think Kubiak has more rings than Reid.

So do Chris Palmer and Kevin Gilbride. Next?

CloakNNNdagger
11-27-2008, 03:17 PM
I think Kubiak has more rings than Reid.

So do Chris Palmer and Kevin Gilbride. Next?


I know my wife has more than all of them put together. I'll ask her if she's interested.:shots:

edo783
11-27-2008, 09:28 PM
I know my wife has more than all of them put together. I'll ask her if she's interested.:shots:

She would be better than what we have I suspect.

Norg
11-27-2008, 10:18 PM
Bringing in the DC fomr the best team with the best record this year is not always the right guy for ther JOB and the system here

b0ng
11-27-2008, 10:31 PM
Really I want no part of Andy Reid here. His playcalling the past few seasons have been wacky to say the least. I like to think that most of Reid's success can be attributed to Jim Johnsons pretty awesome defenses.

I wouldn't mind Johnson here, but I don't think he's leavin Philly unless he is outright fired.

Now the Sean McDermott fella, he sounds a lot more intriguing.

What about Rod Marinelli? He'll most likely get the boot as the HC of the Lions. I'd love for him to be our DC. What he did in Tampa Bay would be awesome over here. He definitely could help our defensive line.

No, the answer for who is responsible for Tampa's great defense in 2002 is Monte Kiffin. And Tony Dungy of course.

Goldensilence
11-28-2008, 01:33 AM
Really I want no part of Andy Reid here. His playcalling the past few seasons have been wacky to say the least. I like to think that most of Reid's success can be attributed to Jim Johnsons pretty awesome defenses.

I wouldn't mind Johnson here, but I don't think he's leavin Philly unless he is outright fired.

Now the Sean McDermott fella, he sounds a lot more intriguing.



No, the answer for who is responsible for Tampa's great defense in 2002 is Monte Kiffin. And Tony Dungy of course.

Interesting debate between player and his coach. Was it McNabb or was it Reid and his offensive scheme? AJ Feeley has success and one has to wonder about whether Kolb can grow into a system like that?
Add in an emerging WR like Jackson and if they can land a Bruiser RB. That Offense can be good next year no matter who Qbs it.

Scooter
11-28-2008, 02:19 AM
I've seen too much of Kubiak, lately. One guy is a proven winner. One is a proven offensive coordinator. Reid has won 60% of the games he's coached, won 5 division titles in 10 seasons, and has taken his team to the Super Bowl. I'd list Gary Kubiak's "accomplishments", but I don't want to get depressed on Thanksgiving. Really, there's no factual basis to conclude that Kubiak is a better head coach than Andy Reid.

gary kubiak + jim johnson = ?

andy reid + jim johnson = ?

i'm going kubiak on this one. andy reid's a heck of a coach and without kubiak i'd love to have him. however we're entirely set on about 75% of our staff. reid cant hand over the salary and draft to one side of the ball like kubiak can. kubiak took complete nothing and in 2 years created an 8-8 team - in his 3rd season created a top 5 offense out of castoffs and backups. i dont know much about the eagles but i find it hard to believe that reid started with anything remote to our salary dump and expansion 8 man roster. kubiak's problems are the anchors in the staff. andy reid doesnt have that problem, he creates his own. every team without dick lebeau calling the shots wants jim johnson and if he becomes available the texans should throw every dime possible to acquire him. kubiak, gibbs, johnson could stand as the top staff possible.

Bubbajwp
11-28-2008, 08:30 AM
gary kubiak + jim johnson = ?

andy reid + jim johnson = ?

i'm going kubiak on this one. andy reid's a heck of a coach and without kubiak i'd love to have him. however we're entirely set on about 75% of our staff. reid cant hand over the salary and draft to one side of the ball like kubiak can. kubiak took complete nothing and in 2 years created an 8-8 team - in his 3rd season created a top 5 offense out of castoffs and backups. i dont know much about the eagles but i find it hard to believe that reid started with anything remote to our salary dump and expansion 8 man roster. kubiak's problems are the anchors in the staff. andy reid doesnt have that problem, he creates his own. every team without dick lebeau calling the shots wants jim johnson and if he becomes available the texans should throw every dime possible to acquire him. kubiak, gibbs, johnson could stand as the top staff possible.
Email this to Bob McNair asap.

The1ApplePie
11-28-2008, 10:25 AM
Email this to Bob McNair asap.

McNair would have to pony up a lot of money, which means he probably won't do it. We have to face the fact that our ownership isn't like Dallas, the Giants, Steelers, or Patriots. Those are football owners. McNair pretty much just runs the thing to make money and could probably really care less about the record as long as his wallet keeps getting thicker.

b0ng
11-28-2008, 10:27 AM
McNair would have to pony up a lot of money, which means he probably won't do it. We have to face the fact that our ownership isn't like Dallas, the Giants, Steelers, or Patriots. Those are football owners. McNair pretty much just runs the thing to make money and could probably really care less about the record as long as his wallet keeps getting thicker.

Explain to me how you came up with this idea and try to back it up with some facts if possible.

The1ApplePie
11-28-2008, 10:36 AM
Explain to me how you came up with this idea and try to back it up with some facts if possible.

State of the franchise (never really seems to care about the team)
refuses to pay out for good players
refuses to pay for good coaches
refuses to pay for good front office personell

The business circles I work in McNair generally has a rep as a total money-grubbing douchebag, so that does taint things a bit

mexican_texan
11-28-2008, 10:57 AM
McNair would have to pony up a lot of money, which means he probably won't do it. We have to face the fact that our ownership isn't like Dallas, the Giants, Steelers, or Patriots. Those are football owners. McNair pretty much just runs the thing to make money and could probably really care less about the record as long as his wallet keeps getting thicker.
You're just pulling this out of your ass.

awtysst
11-28-2008, 11:08 AM
I know my wife has more than all of them put together. I'll ask her if she's interested.:shots:

There is a tree outside my apartment complex that may have even more rings than your wife. Perhaps he should be considered.

cuppacoffee
11-28-2008, 11:29 AM
I've resigned myself to the fact that if Kubiak replaces Smith (a big if ) then he will promote Frank Bush to DC.

IIRC he wanted Bush from the beginning but was unable to sign him. I think this fact has been previously discussed on this site.

I say "a big if " because he could have already replaced Smith with Bush if that was the plan.

As to why he wanted Bush..........I have no clue.

What has Bush ever done?

Be prepared for more Smith next year.

If Kubiak has proven anything this year it's that he has tunnel vision and is very stubborn.

Stubbornness and tunnel vision are admirable... if you are right.


:coffee:

infantrycak
11-28-2008, 12:00 PM
refuses to pay out for good players

You may have heard, there is a salary cap in this league. The Texans have routinely been up against it. Now there are plenty of examples of the Texans paying money they shouldn't have--Walker extension, Carr extension, Wade, Robaire, etc. but unless you are going to argue their plan is to pay the same money for worse players, it isn't that they are unwilling to pay for players.

Specnatz
11-28-2008, 01:40 PM
You may have heard, there is a salary cap in this league. The Texans have routinely been up against it. Now there are plenty of examples of the Texans paying money they shouldn't have--Walker extension, Carr extension, Wade, Robaire, etc. but unless you are going to argue their plan is to pay the same money for worse players, it isn't that they are unwilling to pay for players.

Yes, everyone will mention A Green but 90% of the bad contracts were Casserly. Green did not workout, but the cap hit for the contract was very friendly to cut after two years. Brown friendly to cut after on year. Colvin cost just over $1 mil not a bad idea, but would have been worse to have guys like Cochran and Bulman being cut so they can keep the higher cost guy.


Williams, Domanick $2,600,000
Wong, Kailee $2,334,000
McKinney, Steve $1,500,000
Babin, Jason $1,243,336
Weary, Fred $1,100,000
Flanagan, Mike $1,000,000
Putzier, Jeb $907,500

All dead money that is off the books after this year.

No Clue what the Dead Money Cap hit would be for Weaver, Greenwood and TJ, for 2009.

As far as the team not going after expensive coaches is BS, Palmer at the time was highly regarded, so was Capers, and Marciano. In fact Joe was and is considered one of the best Special Teams coaches. Of course facts are not important when bashing the Texans. All that matters is the bashing.

Jackie Chiles
11-28-2008, 08:52 PM
A little bit off topic but I was just browsing the web and came across this little snippet about us:

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Scouts+Eye/2008/eye112408.htm

"The Texans are beginning to look a lot like Denver. It does not matter who is running, passing or catching the ball the system is self-sufficient and very productive irrespective of the moving parts. The defense, however, continues to be a big problem area. Team sources say Richard Smith is as good as gone after the season and expect a more established defensive coordinator, perhaps one even having head-coaching experience, to take over the reins. Mike Nolan could be a prime candidate."

Nolan is one of a handful of people that I have heard mentioned that I would be very pleased with. It sounds like PFW is taking a shot in the dark throwing his name out there because I doubt anyone they talked to specifically named him but he definitely fits the criteria. Also most of us know that Smith is as good as gone but hearing it from some sources is reassuring.

Lucky
11-28-2008, 09:25 PM
gary kubiak + jim johnson = ?

andy reid + jim johnson = ?

i'm going kubiak on this one.
I remember when I used to be biggest homer on these boards. After seven years, we've become a fanbase that celebrates first downs rather than wins. Just wow.

From here on, I am referring to the Texans head coach exclusively as Teflonman. No matter how hot the fire is, nothing sticks to him.

Who can take three timeouts
Into halftime unused
Cover it with red zone turnovers
and blow a challenge or two?

The Teflonman
The Teflonman can
The Teflonman can cause he taps the podium with love and makes mediocre taste good

Specnatz
11-28-2008, 10:11 PM
I remember when I used to be biggest homer on these boards. After seven years, we've become a fanbase that celebrates first downs rather than wins. Just wow.

From here on, I am referring to the Texans head coach exclusively as Teflonman. No matter how hot the fire is, nothing sticks to him.

Who can take three timeouts
Into halftime unused
Cover it with red zone turnovers
and blow a challenge or two?

The Teflonman
The Teflonman can
The Teflonman can cause he taps the podium with love and makes mediocre taste good

Is everything black or white to those that want Kubiak gone and to scrap everything and start over? How about how the Offense is working and the D is not. Does Kubiak make mistakes, oh hell yes.

My question, the D not with standing, does the bad mistakes Kubiak makes out way the good that the offense has been since he took over? I am referring to what he can control, not what he can't. This all reminds me of what the so called experts said about Belichick while he was in Cleveland.

Since Kubiak is considered the teflonman, shouldn't Rick Smith be fired as well since he has kept the Director of Pro Personnel, Associate Director of Pro Scouting, Director of College Scouting and last but not least Director of Player Development. I mean he has been here two years and we are not winning Super Bowls yet.

cuppacoffee
11-29-2008, 10:18 AM
Is everything black or white to those that want Kubiak gone and to scrap everything and start over? How about how the Offense is working and the D is not. Does Kubiak make mistakes, oh hell yes.

My question, the D not with standing, does the bad mistakes Kubiak makes out way the good that the offense has been since he took over? I am referring to what he can control, not what he can't. This all reminds me of what the so called experts said about Belichick while he was in Cleveland.

Since Kubiak is considered the teflonman, shouldn't Rick Smith be fired as well since he has kept the Director of Pro Personnel, Associate Director of Pro Scouting, Director of College Scouting and last but not least Director of Player Development. I mean he has been here two years and we are not winning Super Bowls yet.



What are the duties of a Director of Player Development?

I believe one of our worse shortcomings is developing the players we draft.

Or is the Director of College Scouting screwing the pooch?

Chicken or the egg thing I suppose.

:coffee:

J-Russ
11-29-2008, 10:47 AM
A little bit off topic but I was just browsing the web and came across this little snippet about us:

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Scouts+Eye/2008/eye112408.htm

"The Texans are beginning to look a lot like Denver. It does not matter who is running, passing or catching the ball — the system is self-sufficient and very productive irrespective of the moving parts. The defense, however, continues to be a big problem area. Team sources say Richard Smith is as good as gone after the season and expect a more established defensive coordinator, perhaps one even having head-coaching experience, to take over the reins. Mike Nolan could be a prime candidate."

Nolan is one of a handful of people that I have heard mentioned that I would be very pleased with. It sounds like PFW is taking a shot in the dark throwing his name out there because I doubt anyone they talked to specifically named him but he definitely fits the criteria. Also most of us know that Smith is as good as gone but hearing it from some sources is reassuring.
This deserves it's own thread, IMO. I was sorta figuring that Bush would just be handed the job, no hesitation. The bolded part gave me a sigh of relief though.

Lucky
11-29-2008, 10:49 AM
I am referring to what he can control, not what he can't.
What's out of the head coach's control?

This is why he's the Teflonman.

Runner
11-29-2008, 10:57 AM
What's out of the head coach's control?



This is an easy one. Anything bad is out of Kubiak's control, like the defense.* Anything good is his responsibility, like the offense (except bad QB play**).

Haven't you been paying attention? :)


*You may have to refine your description of "Head Coach" to have this make sense though.

**ibid.

================================================== ===

On a more serious note, Kubiak was given great authority when he became the Texans head coach. This included quite a bit of input into personnel, probably as much as having the final say in all of those decisions. With that authority comes responsibility. It is really that simple.

Specnatz
11-29-2008, 12:05 PM
This is an easy one. Anything bad is out of Kubiak's control, like the defense.* Anything good is his responsibility, like the offense (except bad QB play**).

Haven't you been paying attention? :)


*You may have to refine your description of "Head Coach" to have this make sense though.

**ibid.

================================================== ===

On a more serious note, Kubiak was given great authority when he became the Texans head coach. This included quite a bit of input into personnel, probably as much as having the final say in all of those decisions. With that authority comes responsibility. It is really that simple.

I have never heard that he has that much authority.

Oh when I said what he can control and what he cant, I was referring to the QB having his head up his ass at critical moments and throwing Ints. Of course that is all Kubiaks game calling, right?

What's out of the head coach's control?

This is why he's the Teflonman.

The way the colts game ended, nothing Kubiak could do. Schuab getting taken out by illegal hits and again having to rely on rosenfail.

Of course taking one sentence out of all what I said and not answering anything does not explain your position and what I was asking, par for the course.

Runner
11-29-2008, 12:16 PM
I have never heard that he has that much authority.

Oh when I said what he can control and what he cant, I was referring to the QB having his head up his ass at critical moments and throwing Ints. Of course that is all Kubiaks game calling, right?

Of course taking one sentence out of all what I said and not answering anything does not explain your position and what I was asking, par for the course.
The fact that you don't know that Kubiak has that much authority doesn't make it any less true.

Kubiak selected both quarterbacks on this team and gave them the jobs with no real competition. That alone gives him a lot of responsibilty for their play.

I "explained my position" when I said that with authority comes responsibility. You must have missed that.

Lucky
11-29-2008, 12:26 PM
My question, the D not with standing, does the bad mistakes Kubiak makes out way the good that the offense has been since he took over?


Of course taking one sentence out of all what I said and not answering anything does not explain your position...
OK, the answer is...yes. The mistakes Teflonman has made outweighs whatever progress the offense has made. I know this, by looking at his record. I know this by watching the games.

Teflonman's teams find ways to lose. Maybe the defense sucks. Maybe the offense turns the ball over in the red zone. Maybe there is a special teams gaff. Or a challenge blunder. Always clock mismanagement.

If the Texans lead the league in first downs, and still have a losing record...so what? Stats can help identify why teams win or lose. But, the bottom line is the win/loss record. I've never suggested that Teflonman isn't a good offensive coordinator. What I've said is that he's a bad head coach. And that WCO coordinators are replaceable. How can I be more clear?

Specnatz
11-29-2008, 01:14 PM
The fact that you don't know that Kubiak has that much authority doesn't make it any less true.

Kubiak selected both quarterbacks on this team and gave them the jobs with no real competition. That alone gives him a lot of responsibility for their play.

I "explained my position" when I said that with authority comes responsibility. You must have missed that.

Never said it was not true just that I am not aware of it is true. As far as no competition for the QB position it seems that has been very accurate. Especially given how Rosenfail has played. I am not saying he is without blame, I just want to replace all of the defensive coaches and see what the teams record will be.

OK, the answer is...yes. The mistakes Teflonman has made outweighs whatever progress the offense has made. I know this, by looking at his record. I know this by watching the games.

Teflonman's teams find ways to lose. Maybe the defense sucks. Maybe the offense turns the ball over in the red zone. Maybe there is a special teams gaff. Or a challenge blunder. Always clock mismanagement.

If the Texans lead the league in first downs, and still have a losing record...so what? Stats can help identify why teams win or lose. But, the bottom line is the win/loss record. I've never suggested that Teflonman isn't a good offensive coordinator. What I've said is that he's a bad head coach. And that WCO coordinators are replaceable. How can I be more clear?

So again it is black and white? W - L only. I understand that but I think there is more that has to be looked at. So as the team is not redoing everything, every three years.

Lucky I am not trying to argue with you, only state my position and try to understand yours. I have said Kubiak has made mistakes, and I even said he needs to turn over the play calling to Jr and he needs to concentrate on the other things and that will make him a better head coach.

The1ApplePie
11-29-2008, 01:28 PM
Is everything black or white to those that want Kubiak gone and to scrap everything and start over? How about how the Offense is working and the D is not. Does Kubiak make mistakes, oh hell yes.

My question, the D not with standing, does the bad mistakes Kubiak makes out way the good that the offense has been since he took over? I am referring to what he can control, not what he can't. This all reminds me of what the so called experts said about Belichick while he was in Cleveland.

Since Kubiak is considered the teflonman, shouldn't Rick Smith be fired as well since he has kept the Director of Pro Personnel, Associate Director of Pro Scouting, Director of College Scouting and last but not least Director of Player Development. I mean he has been here two years and we are not winning Super Bowls yet.

We haven't been to the playoffs or even sniffed them yet either. Meanwhile Payton and Mangini have done well with probably less. Mike Smith and Sporano have turned their programs completely around in a year, with teams with deeper problems than what Kubiak inherited.

Kubes isn't an inovative coach and Smith isn't some roster genius. They are pretty much just trying to instill the same mediocre football that the Denver Broncos have run since Elway retired. Most of the offense is pretty much predicated on Andre Johnson being great and making plays. Steve Slaton appears to be a legit second offensive weapon but other than Owen Daniels making some clutch catches there really isn't much there

Ckw
11-29-2008, 01:38 PM
You may have heard, there is a salary cap in this league. The Texans have routinely been up against it. Now there are plenty of examples of the Texans paying money they shouldn't have--Walker extension, Carr extension, Wade, Robaire, etc. but unless you are going to argue their plan is to pay the same money for worse players, it isn't that they are unwilling to pay for players.

Great point. A lot of people forget this is why in the past we have not gone after the big name free agents. We simply didn't have the cap space and had so many holes to fill that we couldn't get into a bidding war. So we had to go to the bargain bin and try to find guys that would hopefully work out. I say this is the first offseason we sign that big name free agent we have been waiting for.

barrett
11-30-2008, 07:05 PM
I've resigned myself to the fact that if Kubiak replaces Smith (a big if ) then he will promote Frank Bush to DC.

IIRC he wanted Bush from the beginning but was unable to sign him. I think this fact has been previously discussed on this site.

I say "a big if " because he could have already replaced Smith with Bush if that was the plan.

As to why he wanted Bush..........I have no clue.

What has Bush ever done?

Be prepared for more Smith next year.

If Kubiak has proven anything this year it's that he has tunnel vision and is very stubborn.

Stubbornness and tunnel vision are admirable... if you are right.


:coffee:

i agree with this line of thinking. i wouldn't be suprise if Smith is still the DC next year. Kubiak has proven time and time again that he is a "stay the course" kind of guy. He absolutely believes in his guys.

He might be right... he might not. He's definately stubborn.

Go Texans

Goldensilence
11-30-2008, 08:16 PM
You may have heard, there is a salary cap in this league. The Texans have routinely been up against it. Now there are plenty of examples of the Texans paying money they shouldn't have--Walker extension, Carr extension, Wade, Robaire, etc. but unless you are going to argue their plan is to pay the same money for worse players, it isn't that they are unwilling to pay for players.

Great point Icak.

Our scouting department really needs to be looked at considering we're supposed to be building this team through the draft. I'm all for building a team through the draft but if you see a chance to better your team through FA they need to be smart pickups.

Mr teX
11-30-2008, 09:00 PM
Johnson has never been the problem in Philly. If Reid leaves, no way Johnson is asked to leave with him.

i agree, plus Johnson runs a 3-4 so it would require Kubes to change his philosophy on defense & at that point Mauluga is the prime target for us in the draft.

The1ApplePie
11-30-2008, 09:04 PM
i agree, plus Johnson runs a 3-4 so it would require Kubes to change his philosophy on defense & at that point Mauluga is the prime target for us in the draft.

Johnson runs the 4-3. He just blitzes so much it makes it look like 3-4

Mr teX
11-30-2008, 09:09 PM
Johnson runs the 4-3. He just blitzes so much it makes it look like 3-4

Yeah...my fault

HOU-TEX
12-01-2008, 10:00 AM
A little bit off topic but I was just browsing the web and came across this little snippet about us:

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Scouts+Eye/2008/eye112408.htm

"The Texans are beginning to look a lot like Denver. It does not matter who is running, passing or catching the ball the system is self-sufficient and very productive irrespective of the moving parts. The defense, however, continues to be a big problem area. Team sources say Richard Smith is as good as gone after the season and expect a more established defensive coordinator, perhaps one even having head-coaching experience, to take over the reins. Mike Nolan could be a prime candidate."

Nolan is one of a handful of people that I have heard mentioned that I would be very pleased with. It sounds like PFW is taking a shot in the dark throwing his name out there because I doubt anyone they talked to specifically named him but he definitely fits the criteria. Also most of us know that Smith is as good as gone but hearing it from some sources is reassuring.


I'd sure like to know who these "team sources" are. Media?

Who in the organization would come out in say something? I think I might call bull-butter on this one.

noxiousdog
12-01-2008, 10:43 AM
Who in the organization would come out in say something? I think I might call bull-butter on this one.

You can say things without saying things.

Just sayin'

;)

cuppacoffee
12-01-2008, 11:23 AM
I'd sure like to know who these "team sources" are. Media?

Who in the organization would come out in say something? I think I might call bull-butter on this one.


Is an assistant to the janitor a "team source"?

I agree with HouTex, unless there is a naming of names, it's all conjecture.

Or "bull-butter" as HouTex so eloquently put it...:D

:coffee:

Goldensilence
12-01-2008, 11:28 AM
I'd sure like to know who these "team sources" are. Media?

Who in the organization would come out in say something? I think I might call bull-butter on this one.

Journalism ethics. No one is officially going to come forward and say that and put their job at risk.

Either way I really hope it is true.

TimeKiller
12-01-2008, 12:55 PM
They are pretty much just trying to instill the same mediocre football that the Denver Broncos have run since Elway retired.
What about the mediocre system the 2 years before that? Wasn't it the same?

Most of the offense is pretty much predicated on Andre Johnson being great and making plays. Steve Slaton appears to be a legit second offensive weapon but other than Owen Daniels making some clutch catches there really isn't much there

I guess that's why our offense is down in the depths of the league.....:thisbig:

You forgot about our "can start anywhere in the league #2" Kevin Dub Walter.