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bah007
11-23-2008, 07:47 PM
They are out...

http://cfn.scout.com/a.z?s=451&p=2&c=557949

1. Alabama
2. Texas
3. Oklahoma
4. Florida
5. USC
6. Utah
7. Texas Tech
8. Penn St
9. Boise St
10. Ohio St



Texas is ahead of OU by .0075 so OU will make the jump next week if they take care of business.

stingray
11-23-2008, 07:57 PM
OU will have a tough matchup.. OSU hates OU with a passion and will relish a win against them.

Wolf
11-23-2008, 07:59 PM
OU will have a tough matchup.. OSU hates OU with a passion and will relish a win against them.

OU is on a roll and I don't see them stopping

stingray
11-23-2008, 08:00 PM
And how the hell does Utah jump over Texas Tech.. This systems blows more than Jenna Jameson in her prime...

bah007
11-23-2008, 08:01 PM
At this point I think we will see OU vs. Florida in the NC.

Bama vs. Ohio St in the Sugar Bowl.

Texas vs. USC in the Fiesta Bowl.

Penn St vs. Oregon St in the Rose Bowl.

Utah vs. Cincinnati in the Orange Bowl.

bah007
11-23-2008, 08:02 PM
And how the hell does Utah jump over Texas Tech.. This systems blows more than Jenna Jameson in her prime...

Utah is undefeated and they sure as hell haven't lost by 40+ on prime time national TV.

I told y'all for a whole week that if Tech lost they were going to fall like a rock. They did.

Hookem Horns
11-23-2008, 08:04 PM
OU is on a roll and I don't see them stopping

They have already been stopped by 10 by the #2 team in the nation.

bah007
11-23-2008, 08:06 PM
They have already been stopped by 10 by the #2 team in the nation.

As Lee Corso would say:

In the last couple of games, OU and Florida have just been padding stats and running up the score.

They are playing better than anyone else right now and that's what matters to human voters.

stingray
11-23-2008, 08:06 PM
Utah is undefeated and they sure as hell haven't lost by 40+ on prime time national TV.

That's because they are never on national TV... They are Hawaii from last year.

Hookem Horns
11-23-2008, 08:09 PM
As Lee Corso would say:

In the last couple of games, OU and Florida have just been padding stats and running up the score.

They are playing better than anyone else right now and that's what matters to human voters.

Texas isn't playing any worse than them and Texas beat one of them by 10 points. Next.

bah007
11-23-2008, 08:10 PM
That's because they are never on national TV... They are Hawaii from last year.

Except that Utah has a history of being successful in BCS games. Hawaii doesn't.

That is working for them.

In the end, it doesn't matter where Tech is ranked unless they are in front of either OU or UT.

No matter if they are #5 or #25 they are still headed to the Cotton Bowl.

bah007
11-23-2008, 08:12 PM
Texas isn't playing any worse than them and Texas beat one of them by 10 points. Next.

Look, I am a HUGE Texas fan. I have watched every single game since I was just a little kid.

But use your eyes. We should have beat Tech. We didn't.

They should have beat Tech. They did more than that. They embarrassed them.

OU is on fire and I wouldn't want to give them a rematch right now cuz I don't think we could win.

jaayteetx
11-23-2008, 08:16 PM
OU will have a tough matchup.. OSU hates OU with a passion and will relish a win against them.

OU loses to OK state and Tech beats Baylor, Tech goes to the Big 12 title game right? Texas would then need Tech to lose to Mizzou to have any chance of the BCS championship game. Its not looking good for the Horns. Its a flawed system with a fictional national championship.

Hookem Horns
11-23-2008, 08:18 PM
Look, I am a HUGE Texas fan. I have watched every single game since I was just a little kid.

But use your eyes. We should have beat Tech. We didn't.

They should have beat Tech. They did more than that. They embarrassed them.

OU is on fire and I wouldn't want to give them a rematch right now cuz I don't think we could win.

The argument here is between 2 teams, Texas and OU. OU should have beaten Texas but they didn't. They got their asses handed to them by 10 points. End of conversation.

bah007
11-23-2008, 08:18 PM
OU loses to OK state and Tech beats Baylor, Tech goes to the Big 12 title game right? Texas would then need Tech to lose to Mizzou to have any chance of the BCS championship game. Its not looking good for the Horns. Its a flawed system with a fictional national championship.

Not necessarily.

Texas is far enough ahead that they could get into the NC game even if Tech wins the conference.

bah007
11-23-2008, 08:20 PM
The argument here is between 2 teams, Texas and OU. OU should have beaten Texas but they didn't. They got their asses handed to them by 10 points. End of conversation.

No. It's between three teams. They all have the same record.

I wish I could say that beating OU on a neutral field was enough. But it's not. The ENTIRE body of work has to count, not just the game we want to count. Unless you propose that Ole Miss should be ranked higher than Florida cuz they won the head to head...

Unless Tech loses to Baylor then OU is going to the Big XII champ game.

Hookem Horns
11-23-2008, 08:21 PM
BTW, you don't think Texas would dominate Tech in Austin in front of a fired up crowd? I do.

awtysst
11-23-2008, 08:22 PM
Not necessarily.

Texas is far enough ahead that they could get into the NC game even if Tech wins the conference.

If OU loses to OSU, Tech goes to the Big XII Champ game vs Mizzou due to the tie breaker. A win over Mizzou should push Tech over Texas in the BCS, and into the National Championship game against the SEC winner. Only way UT gets in is with OU(then #2) losing to OSU, and Tech losing to Mizzou or OU beaitng OSU and then losing to Mizzou.

bah007
11-23-2008, 08:23 PM
BTW, you don't think Texas would dominate Tech in Austin in front of a fired up crowd? I do.

Hell yes I do.

We played our worst two quarters of the entire season in that first half.

We are better than them and we squandered it. We have to live with the consequences.

Hookem Horns
11-23-2008, 08:23 PM
No. It's between three teams. They all have the same record.

I wish I could say that beating OU on a neutral field was enough. But it's not. The ENTIRE body of work has to count, not just the game we want to count.

Unless Tech loses to Baylor then OU is going to the Big XII champ game.

No, when talking about the BCS rankings it's between 2 teams. Tech isn't even the conversation now since they are #7. The Big XII championship obviously means little.

Hookem Horns
11-23-2008, 08:24 PM
We have to live with the consequences.

So should OU, they squandered their chance of beating us.

awtysst
11-23-2008, 08:24 PM
Unless Tech loses to Baylor then OU is going to the Big XII champ game.

Its out of Tech's hands. Even if they win, they need OU to lose to get to the Big XII Champ game.

bah007
11-23-2008, 08:25 PM
If OU loses to OSU, Tech goes to the Big XII Champ game vs Mizzou due to the tie breaker. A win over Mizzou should push Tech over Texas in the BCS, and into the National Championship game against the SEC winner. Only way UT gets in is with OU(then #2) losing to OSU, and Tech losing to Mizzou.

Not necessarily. That is the natural assumption, but they are way too far behind.

They would have to jump USC, Utah, and the SEC championship game loser before they could jump Texas.

bah007
11-23-2008, 08:26 PM
Its out of Tech's hands. Even if they win, they need OU to lose to get to the Big XII Champ game.

I was referring to Texas.

If Tech loses to Baylor, we go to the title game.

awtysst
11-23-2008, 08:26 PM
Not necessarily. That is the natural assumption, but they are way too far behind.

They would have to jump USC, Utah, and the SEC championship game loser before they could jump Texas.

I hope so. I would love to see us in the Champ Game.

bah007
11-23-2008, 08:27 PM
I hope so. I would love to see us in the Champ Game.

So would I.

Hopefully Baylor saw enough on tape to exploit Tech's weaknesses.

awtysst
11-23-2008, 08:28 PM
I was referring to Texas.

If Tech loses to Baylor, we go to the title game.

What about Oklahoma though? I still think they are in control. A win over OSU and they are in.

bah007
11-23-2008, 08:29 PM
What about Oklahoma though? I still think they are in control. A win over OSU and they are in.

If Tech loses to Baylor then it is a two-way tie between Texas and OU.

Texas wins that based on head to head.

Blake
11-23-2008, 08:30 PM
I think Texas is in a tough spot. I have no idea what they would need to get into the big 12 champ game, or the NC game at this point.

awtysst
11-23-2008, 08:31 PM
If Tech loses to Baylor then it is a two-way tie between Texas and OU.

Texas wins that based on head to head.

ah, I see your logic now. The BCS rankings only play in a three way tie in which there is an equal head to head amongst the teams.

But Texas still must beat down A&M. We cant just assume a W and then fall flat like we have the past couple of years.

bah007
11-23-2008, 08:31 PM
I think Texas is in a tough spot. I have no idea what they would need to get into the big 12 champ game, or the NC game at this point.

Beat A&M and Tech loss to Baylor.

bah007
11-23-2008, 08:32 PM
ah, I see your logic now. The BCS rankings only play in a three way tie in which there is an equal head to head amongst the teams.

But Texas still must beat down A&M. We cant just assume a W and then fall flat like we have the past couple of years.

Wouldn't that be ironic?

Can we please just come into this game and beat them down like we should?

We always play down to their level in this game. This is their Super Bowl. They will be ready.

awtysst
11-23-2008, 08:33 PM
I think Texas is in a tough spot. I have no idea what they would need to get into the big 12 champ game, or the NC game at this point.

Here is what it is:
1. Texas MUST beat Texas A&M. This is a must win for any scenario to win out.

2. Baylor Beats Tech. Then even if OU beats OSU, Texas owns the tiebreak against OU.

or

2. OU Beats OSU and loses to Mizzou. If this happens, Texas would go to the Natl Championship.

awtysst
11-23-2008, 08:34 PM
Wouldn't that be ironic?

Can we please just come into this game and beat them down like we should?

We always play down to their level in this game. This is their Super Bowl. They will be ready.

I think our Defense has been very flat the past couple of years and let Javorski Lane push his way through. I expect Mr. Muschamp to have his D fired up.

bah007
11-23-2008, 08:37 PM
Here is what it is:
1. Texas MUST beat Texas A&M. This is a must win for any scenario to win out.

2. Baylor Beats Tech. Then even if OU beats OSU, Texas owns the tiebreak against OU.

or

2. OU Beats OSU and loses to Mizzou. If this happens, Texas would go to the Natl Championship.

On top of that:

If OU loses to Okie St and Tech goes to the Big XII championship game....Mizzou beating Tech would get us in the NC.....and even if Tech wins there is no guarantee they would pass us (I don't prefer the last option).

Blake
11-23-2008, 08:45 PM
Thanks guys.

As far as aTm, we are going to crush them. Will Muschamp has been preparing for them for 2 weeks and will dismantle their offense. Texas' offense will get its points by passing all over them. Then the running game will finish out in the 2nd half.

Mr teX
11-23-2008, 09:15 PM
Look, I am a HUGE Texas fan. I have watched every single game since I was just a little kid.

But use your eyes. We should have beat Tech. We didn't.

They should have beat Tech. They did more than that. They embarrassed them.

OU is on fire and I wouldn't want to give them a rematch right now cuz I don't think we could win.

I'm glad somebody is watching the games & unbiased b/c Hook 'em is crazy if he honestly believes UT is playing on the same level as OU right now. Oklahoma has been crushing their opponents since losing to UT. & 10 pts is hardly "handing someone their butts".

UT still has a very good shot to get in the NC...OSU isn't a given for OU. Stillwater is gonna be rocking just like Norman was & at the very least i expect OSU to give them a game for a half.......of course i expected that from tech too.

Hookem Horns
11-23-2008, 09:40 PM
Oklahoma has been crushing their opponents since losing to UT. & 10 pts is hardly "handing someone their butts".



They are both blowing out teams now. The bottom line is who won when they played each other?

The fact that we are even having conversations like this is the reason I am an NFL fan first and will never take college that seriously. Just think how messed up the NFL would be if they had a system like this.

I guess I would be happy because the Giants would have just taken over the #1 spot, or would they? They did lose to a bad Browns team a few weeks ago who lost to the Texans today. However Tennessee got blown out at home.

beerlover
11-23-2008, 09:51 PM
THIS IS EXCATLY WHY THERE NEEDS TO BE A PLAYOFF SYSTEM :hairpull:

Wolf
11-23-2008, 10:06 PM
http://www.texanstalk.com/forums//showthread.php?t=56138



I put in another post, the timing of it all for Texas losing was bad, lose on the last of the string of tough games, Ok losing the first of it's string of tough games.

I agree hook'em I don't think Texas would have started out so flat if it played at Austin instead of Lubbock

The1ApplePie
11-23-2008, 10:10 PM
Sadly no chance of my Trojans making the Title Game:foottap:

Hopefully they will play Texas and I can win some money off of some of the Burt Orange faithful

kastofsna
11-23-2008, 10:15 PM
definitely seeing Florida vs. whichever Big XII team in the title game

i'm officially on the playoff bandwagon now

Jackie Chiles
11-23-2008, 10:24 PM
Sadly no chance of my Trojans making the Title Game:foottap:

What if Texas loses to A@M, OSU beats OU, and Tech loses to Mizzou in the Big 12 championship game? And you think there's no chance....:mshadows:

(I honestly don't even know if that would be enough but felt like throwing it out there)

bah007
11-23-2008, 10:27 PM
What if Texas loses to A@M, OSU beats OU, and Tech loses to Mizzou in the Big 12 championship game? And you think there's no chance....:mshadows:

(I honestly don't even know if that would be enough but felt like throwing it out there)

Utah?

Jackie Chiles
11-23-2008, 11:20 PM
Utah?

Doubt they beat out a 1 loss USC. If Bama loses the SEC championship, like many are predicting, and all of the stuff I mentioned above happens they probably still have a better case to play in the championship than USC. This is fun to think about but I have a feeling in the end the only team that will have a legit beef will be one of the Big 12 teams, likely Texas.

bah007
11-23-2008, 11:52 PM
Strength of Schedule:
1. Virginia
2. Duke
3. Wake Forest
4. North Carolina St
5. Texas
6. Georgia
7. Arkansas
8. Washington
9. Miami
10. North Carolina
.
.
.
19. Texas Tech
26. Oklahoma
30. USC
31. Florida
52. Penn St
65. Alabama
73. Utah

Wolf
11-24-2008, 12:17 AM
a good team is going to be left out

Utah was in sixth, but the Utes are just waiting to find out what BCS game they’ll play in.

Utah finished its perfect regular season with a 48-24 victory against BYU on Saturday that gave the Utes the Mountain West Conference championship.

Teams from the MWC and four other conferences without an automatic bid to the BCS earn a guaranteed spot in the four big-money bowl games by finishing in the top 12 of the final BCS standings. Utah is safe.

That means Boise State, which is in ninth place, is probably out of the BCS mix, even if the Broncos remain undefeated. Boise State would be eligible for an at-large bid, but that isn’t likely.

Eighth-place Penn State locked up the Big Ten’s BCS spot and is likely heading to the Rose Bowl.

Oregon State, in 17th place, could be next to earn a BCS bid, taking the Pac-10’s automatic spot in the Rose Bowl if it beats Oregon on Saturday.

Sixteenth-place Cincinnati is also a win away from locking up a BCS bid and its first Big East title. The Bearcats face Syracuse at home on Saturday.


http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-bcsstandings&prov=ap&type=lgns

Corrosion
11-24-2008, 08:05 AM
Looks like I'm a Cowboy fan for a week ..... Oklahoma State Cowboy's that is. :tiphat:

Mr teX
11-24-2008, 09:22 AM
They are both blowing out teams now. The bottom line is who won when they played each other?

The fact that we are even having conversations like this is the reason I am an NFL fan first and will never take college that seriously. Just think how messed up the NFL would be if they had a system like this.

I guess I would be happy because the Giants would have just taken over the #1 spot, or would they? They did lose to a bad Browns team a few weeks ago who lost to the Texans today. However Tennessee got blown out at home.

UT looks like they've lost their swagger...

They're letting inferior opponents hang around for a half before they remember "oh yeah, we're supposed to beat them by 30..". It's like they've been in a lull since losing to tech, while OU is essentially putting games away at half time & have been about as dominant as Florida has been since they lost to UT. They've put up no less than 58 pts on their last 4 opponents & that didn't change this past saturday.... no way UT is playing on the same level right now.

mussop
11-24-2008, 11:24 AM
Am I the only one that thinks Alabama @#1 is a joke? Anyway there are going to be some great bowl games.

bah007
11-24-2008, 11:51 AM
Am I the only one that thinks Alabama @#1 is a joke? Anyway there are going to be some great bowl games.

They are an undefeated team in the second toughest conference in the nation.

It is what it is.

That one will work itself out in the end though. The only sure thing in the BCS right now is the winner of the Bama/UF game is going to the championship.

bah007
11-25-2008, 12:11 PM
Here's my projections for the games this week:

1. Alabama beats Auburn 27-9

2. Texas beats Texas A&M 49-13

3. Oklahoma beats Oklahoma St 38-31

4. Florida beats Florida St 34-17

5. USC beats Notre Dame 31-7


What this means:

Winner of Alabama vs. Florida will definitely be in the National Championship Game.

I think OU will nearly catch up in the computers, but I actually think that the human voters are going close the gap between OU & Texas. Voters tend to take their final ballots very seriously (too bad they don't do it the entire year) and I think some will throw Tech out of the equation and decide that UT goes over OU because of the head to head.

I think it's going to be really close. I see OU barely coming out ahead though.

Blake
11-25-2008, 12:24 PM
Florida vs. UT/OU

No doubt. No doubt in my mind.

TexansSeminole
11-25-2008, 12:28 PM
Florida needs to get passed Florida State first.

Don't put them in the NC game yet.

Corrosion
11-25-2008, 12:52 PM
Florida needs to get passed Florida State first.

Don't put them in the NC game yet.

Yeah , those rivalry games can be a ***** ..... Just ask UT about A&M a few years back .... knocked them outa the Big12 championship.

bah007
11-25-2008, 12:55 PM
Florida needs to get passed Florida State first.

Don't put them in the NC game yet.

I would absolutely love it if FSU tripped up Florida and then Florida won the SEC.

OU vs. Texas rematch for the title!

Yankee_In_TX
11-25-2008, 01:11 PM
I would absolutely love it if FSU tripped up Florida and then Florida won the SEC.

OU vs. Texas rematch for the title!

Well, since I am not getting my Texas v. Texas Tech, I'll settle for Texas v. OK.

Anyone else thinking conference championship games (originally started by conferences to make $$$) are outdated and don't fit with the BCS system?

TexansSeminole
11-25-2008, 01:13 PM
That means yall better root for my Noles. I got a good feeling about this one.

The thing about this game is that everybody is going to be playing 100%. Nobody will take a play off.

Blake
11-25-2008, 01:16 PM
I would absolutely love it if FSU tripped up Florida and then Florida won the SEC.

OU vs. Texas rematch for the title!

Not as likely but you can have Alabama lose to Auburn and then beat Florida. Same result.

Let OU have the big 12, face Mizzou and still have to face us in the NC.

Blake
11-25-2008, 01:16 PM
That means yall better root for my Noles. I got a good feeling about this one.

The thing about this game is that everybody is going to be playing 100%. Nobody will take a play off.

I will be rooting for them.

bah007
11-25-2008, 01:52 PM
Well, since I am not getting my Texas v. Texas Tech, I'll settle for Texas v. OK.

Anyone else thinking conference championship games (originally started by conferences to make $$$) are outdated and don't fit with the BCS system?

Either everybody should have them or nobody should have them.

The Big XII & SEC teams have to run a gauntlet all year and then at the end they have to play another top 15 team while the Big Ten, Big East, & Pac 10 teams move up the rankings just by being idle.

Corrosion
11-25-2008, 02:05 PM
Either everybody should have them or nobody should have them.

The Big XII & SEC teams have to run a gauntlet all year and then at the end they have to play another top 15 team while the Big Ten, Big East, & Pac 10 teams move up the rankings just by being idle.

Honestly , I think every conference should have them and a precondition of playing in the National Title Game is you win your conference championship. But that makes too damn much sense for College Football ....

bah007
11-25-2008, 02:12 PM
Honestly , I think every conference should have them and a precondition of playing in the National Title Game is you win your conference championship. But that makes too damn much sense for College Football ....

I agree. The Big 11 needs one for sure. That's the most obvious example.

The Pac 10 has a true conference champion at the end of the year because all the teams play eachother. But they could split into divisions of 5 and shorten the conference schedule.

Example:
Pac 10 North - Oregon, Oregon St, Stanford, Washington, Washington St
Pac 10 South - Arizona, Arizona St, Cal, UCLA, USC

Each team would play all the teams in their division plus three teams in the other division. That would give them seven conference games, plus they would get five non-conference.

This is perfect for them because their conference is weak as a whole and they could bolster their strength of schedule by playing real non-conference games.

Yankee_In_TX
11-25-2008, 03:45 PM
Honestly , I think every conference should have them and a precondition of playing in the National Title Game is you win your conference championship. But that makes too damn much sense for College Football ....

How does that make sense? For example - you have 3-4 top 10 teams in the Big 12 South. In theory a lower ranked BCS team can play in the Big 12 game. They tried to fix that by saying the tie breaker is the BCS ranking.

IMHO I don't think a conference Championship should be decided by polls...

Seems to me the two systems conflict with each other.

As far as a precondition, what does any of the South teams beating a North team prove?

And didn't OK either not play in it or lose and still go to the title game years back? I think in the current system Conference CHampionship games are out dated.

(and of course, should be replaced with a BCS 8 team playoff!)

bah007
11-25-2008, 03:50 PM
How does that make sense? For example - you have 3-4 top 10 teams in the Big 12 South. In theory a lower ranked BCS team can play in the Big 12 game. They tried to fix that by saying the tie breaker is the BCS ranking.

IMHO I don't think a conference Championship should be decided by polls...

Seems to me the two systems conflict with each other.

As far as a precondition, what does any of the South teams beating a North team prove?

You make a point, but as an Ohio St fan wouldn't you rather see the Big Ten either play a round-robin schedule or have a conference championship game?

How can you choose the conference champ if two teams finish tied at the top but didn't play each other?

bah007
11-25-2008, 03:52 PM
...And didn't OK either not play in it or lose and still go to the title game years back? I think in the current system Conference CHampionship games are out dated....

I believe Nebraska in 01 & Oklahoma in 03 both made the national championship game despite losing their conference championship games.

Yankee_In_TX
11-25-2008, 03:55 PM
You make a point, but as an Ohio St fan wouldn't you rather see the Big Ten either play a round-robin schedule or have a conference championship game?

How can you choose the conference champ if two teams finish tied at the top but didn't play each other?

Big Ten currently has weird tie breakers - like if you played a AA team you lose the tie. Weird, but at least you can control that (don't schedule any AA teams). But as it stands, those are for BCS games. Penn State and Ohio State have shared the Big 10 Title this year.

BUT I also think the 8 team playoff should be the highest ranked 8 teams, no designated spots for conference winners. Maybe that's why the conference title is devalued in my head... Hrmm...

bah007
11-25-2008, 04:06 PM
Big Ten currently has weird tie breakers - like if you played a AA team you lose the tie. Weird, but at least you can control that (don't schedule any AA teams). But as it stands, those are for BCS games. Penn State and Ohio State have shared the Big 10 Title this year.

BUT I also think the 8 team playoff should be the highest ranked 8 teams, no designated spots for conference winners. Maybe that's why the conference title is devalued in my head... Hrmm...

I guess I just don't understand how it is a shared title. Penn St beat Ohio St so shouldn't they just be the outright winner even though they have the same record?

As for playoffs, what would the criteria be? What about Utah, Boise St, & Ball St?

Yankee_In_TX
11-25-2008, 04:09 PM
I guess I just don't understand how it is a shared title. Penn St beat Ohio St so shouldn't they just be the outright winner even though they have the same record.

As for playoffs, what would the criteria be? What about Utah, Boise St, & Ball St?


Top 8 teams by BCS ranking, period. And yes, that probably needs tweaking, BUT, at least you know the top 4 teams in the nation are pretty much 100% guaranteed to be in the playoff.

So if it happened today, Boise State and OSU are out. But if Boise state sneaks into the top 8 after the SEC title game, then they would be in.

Yes, teams 9 and 10 would rant every year, but what you really get, one way or another, is the top 4.

TexansSeminole
11-25-2008, 04:58 PM
Every conference should split into two divisions and have a conference championship game.

There is no reason USC and OSU should be idle during conference championship week and move up in rankings.

If it were up to me I wouldn't allow teams to get into BCS games until their conference made a championship game. Big Ten and Pac-10 know they have the advantage by not having a conference championship game and they have reaped the benefits for years. Plus the two conferences aren't very good.

Yankee_In_TX
11-25-2008, 05:00 PM
Every conference should split into two divisions and have a conference championship game.

There is no reason USC and OSU should be idle during conference championship week and move up in rankings.

If it were up to me I wouldn't allow teams to get into BCS games until their conference made a championship game. Big Ten and Pac-10 know they have the advantage by not having a conference championship game and they have reaped the benefits for years. Plus the two conferences aren't very good.

So which team are you adding to the Big Ten?

bah007
11-25-2008, 05:04 PM
So which team are you adding to the Big Ten?

Notre Dame.

It should've happened forever ago.

TexansSeminole
11-25-2008, 05:06 PM
So which team are you adding to the Big Ten?

That'd be a hard question to answer. Personally, I would just leave a team out.

If they knew they had no chance at a BCS game I promise you they would figure it out. As it stands now there is no pressure for them to do it. Their representative can sit idle during conference championship week, slide into the NC game, and then get stomped, as it has been for 2 years in a row now.

No offense to OSU, I just think it's unfair.

Yankee_In_TX
11-25-2008, 05:14 PM
No offense take, this has been a good thread. Also made me realize I devalue conference titles (even our own). I dislike automatic bids. Why? Because the whole stinking BCS is only designed to determine, and therefore only matters for teams #1 and #2. After 1 and 2, then it is suddenly BCS is irrelevant and conference rankings matter. Seems silly to me.

We asked Notre Dame, they said screw you in 1999.

I guess I agree - everyone has one or no one does. I just vote no one. There's too much $$$ in college ball to adjust to the times quickly.

Hell, we're stuck with the BCS as is until what, 2015 now because of the new TV deal?

TexansSeminole
11-25-2008, 05:18 PM
I understand that it has worked in years past, but if you look at it, they get chosen because of the history of the program. Same goes for USC. They play lesser competition for most of the year, do not have to play a conference championship game, and then get in based on reputation.

It may work sometimes, but there needs to be a more precise way to judge the teams in the BCS. Playoff would be great, but it probably won't happen. So we need to revise the BCS. A team that sits on their couch during conference championship week shouldn't even have a shot IMO. You look at the SEC, ACC, or Big 12 and alot of the time the conference championship game is a rematch of a game played earlier in the season. That's one reason why the "we play every team already" argument doesn't carry any weight with me.

The point is that you have to survive another week and another tough game.

But that's just my opinion.

I like conference championships because of the excitement but I wouldn't be totally opposed to doing away with them if everyone did. I just want every conference to be in the same boat.

It's like different leagues playing by different rules and then trying to compare them.

YoungTexanFan
11-25-2008, 06:20 PM
I understand that it has worked in years past, but if you look at it, they get chosen because of the history of the program. Same goes for USC. They play lesser competition for most of the year, do not have to play a conference championship game, and then get in based on reputation.

It may work sometimes, but there needs to be a more precise way to judge the teams in the BCS. Playoff would be great, but it probably won't happen. So we need to revise the BCS. A team that sits on their couch during conference championship week shouldn't even have a shot IMO. You look at the SEC, ACC, or Big 12 and alot of the time the conference championship game is a rematch of a game played earlier in the season. That's one reason why the "we play every team already" argument doesn't carry any weight with me.

The point is that you have to survive another week and another tough game.

But that's just my opinion.

I like conference championships because of the excitement but I wouldn't be totally opposed to doing away with them if everyone did. I just want every conference to be in the same boat.

It's like different leagues playing by different rules and then trying to compare them.

I agree almost completely, but using this year's USC team as an example isn't the best choice. They went across the country and demolished Virginia. They demolished tOSU. They lost one game. Otherwise, USC has been a top 3 dominant team in the nation from start to end of the season.

bah007
11-25-2008, 07:23 PM
I agree almost completely, but using this year's USC team as an example isn't the best choice. They went across the country and demolished Virginia. They demolished tOSU. They lost one game. Otherwise, USC has been a top 3 dominant team in the nation from start to end of the season.

If they had a conference championship game they could prove it in a rematch with Oregon St on a neutral field.

As it stands, if Oregon St beats Oregon, then USC is the 2nd best team in their conference.

awtysst
11-25-2008, 10:05 PM
BUT I also think the 8 team playoff should be the highest ranked 8 teams, no designated spots for conference winners. ..

I like the idea, but here is the problem. WHo are the current top 8?

1. Alabama
2. Texas
3. Oklahoma
4. Florida
5. USC
6. Utah
7. Texas Tech
8. Penn State

So out of these top 8 we have:
3 Big XII South Teams
2 SEC Teams
1 Pac 10 team
1 Big X team
1 non BCS Conference Team

There are no ACC or Big East teams here. Why would they be ok with this system? In the current system, they get an automatic bid with maybe #16 Cincinnati and perhaps #22 Florida State. They give up lots of $ if they were to lose their automatic bowl bid. So, while I think your idea is great in Theory, it will not come to fruition.

Speedy
11-25-2008, 11:20 PM
I like the idea, but here is the problem. WHo are the current top 8?

1. Alabama
2. Texas
3. Oklahoma
4. Florida
5. USC
6. Utah
7. Texas Tech
8. Penn State

So out of these top 8 we have:
3 Big XII South Teams
2 SEC Teams
1 Pac 10 team
1 Big X team
1 non BCS Conference Team

There are no ACC or Big East teams here. Why would they be ok with this system? In the current system, they get an automatic bid with maybe #16 Cincinnati and perhaps #22 Florida State. They give up lots of $ if they were to lose their automatic bowl bid. So, while I think your idea is great in Theory, it will not come to fruition.

I've got a system that gives us a playoff AND keeps the bowls alive.

**Disclaimer** - I already know this has no chance in hell so save those posts.

Anyway, I've posted it on here the last couple of years or so, and will do so again when the regular season and conference championships are done.

What it is is a 16 team, 4 week tourney. It takes the champion of each conference and 5 at large teams, the best 5 in the BCS not already in with a conference title.

The BCS rankings still come into play as the 16 teams will be seeded using those rankings. #1 would play #16, #2 vs. #15 and so on.

The 4 big bowls, Rose, Sugar, Orange and Fiesta would rotate for the title game. That would be the Orange Bowl this year. The Sugar Bowl (Superdome) hosted the championship game last year, so that would roatate to a 2nd round matchup with the other 2 (Rose and Fiesta) hosting the semis.

I just picked the bowls according to their payout, and it has been a few years now so these may have changed, but the bowls hosting the 1st round would be the;
Chick-fil-a Bowl
Texas Bowl
Liberty Bowl
Champs Sports Bowl
Holiday Bowl
Motor City Bowl
Music City Bowl
Meineke Car Care Bowl

The 2nd round bowls would be;
Cotton Bowl
Gator Bowl
Outback Bowl
Sugar Bowl

Semis:
Rose Bowl
Fiesta Bowl

Championship:
Orange Bowl

I know, travel, blah, blah, blah. Well, only 2 teams have to travel 4 times, and half the teams only travel once. Quit using travel as an excuse.

So just to give an idea of what it would look like, I'll just take the better record in each conference and assume they're the champs, and then pick the next 5 in the BCS.

So the first round would look something like this if the season ended today:

Chick-fil-a Bowl - #1 Alabama(SEC)/#16 Houston(CUSA)
Texas Bowl - #2 Texas(Big12)/#15 Troy (Sun Belt)
Liberty Bowl - #3 Oklahoma(At Large)/#14 Florida St.(ACC)
Champs Sports - #4 Florida(AL)/#13 Oregon St.(Pac10)
Holiday Bowl - #5 USC(AL)/#12 Cincinnati(Big East)
Motor City Bowl - #6 Utah(MWC)/#11 Ball St.(MAC)
Music City Bowl - #7 Texas Tech(AL)/#10 Ohio St.(AL)
Meineke Car Care - #8 Penn St.(Big10)/#9 Boise St.(WAC)

Picking winners at random, the 2nd round could look something like this:

Cotton Bowl - Texas/Texas Tech
Gator Bowl - Alabama/Penn St.
Outback Bowl - Florida/USC
Sugar Bowl - Oklahoma/Utah

Semis:

Rose Bowl - Texas/Oklahoma
Fiesta Bowl - Alabama/Florida or PennSt/Florida

Orange Bowl National Championship: Oklahoma/Florida or Texas/Florida

So that takes care of that, but that's not all.
The rest of the bowls get to stay in play as well as there will be another 16 team tourney, I call it the Bowl Invitational and this will be like the NIT tournament in college hoops.

This will take the next 16 teams in the BCS and/or AP poll, and they will play it out just like the above tourney in the lesser bowls; Papa Johns, Armed Forces, Independence, etc.

The incentive to make it to the finals in this tourney would be a trip to Hawaii to play this bracket's title game in the Hawaii Bowl.

So that's my contribution to getting a playoff for college football while at the same time keeping the precious bowl system in play.

And don't doubt for a minute that this thing wouldn't be bigger than March Madness. Hell, it might even be bigger than the Super Bowl.

threetoedpete
11-26-2008, 03:46 AM
BTW, you don't think Texas would dominate Tech in Austin in front of a fired up crowd? I do.

What I think is if Gideon doesn't drop the ball we aren't having this conversation. But he did. Not banging the kid....he had a he77 of a season.

The reality of it is that no one wants Texas in the NC game. No one. They'll have to beat up on the aggs and have a lot of help. On paper it doesn't look good. They'll be voted out by the humans and as the sos catches up with them. brace yourself there big guy. It's not fair. Just the way it is. Since I had them at 7-4 at the start of the season, I think this is Mac Brown's finest coaching job yet.

threetoedpete
11-26-2008, 03:58 AM
Well I keep hearing how all of this will happen. What I know is that Texas is beat up. Bad. So....either you cut out regular season games or you increase the roster spots considerably from eighty five.

Then you'll have to kill every lobist for every bowl . Next you'll have to kill every college president of all 119 colleges. Then maybe you'll get a play off system. You dismiss the travel expense out of hand...that there thingy is what you call reallity. I can see the herd following their team cross country for one game...not four. The only way this will come to pass is if the justice departrment sues the major colleges for institutional racism in regaurds to their head coaching hiring practices. Make it more expensive not having a play off system as living off the bowl money. they all have to hire 250 dollar an hour attorneys...they'll start having second thoughts. Anytime you have to ask why about anything, always follow the money. Right now the bowls controll the money.

Yankee_In_TX
11-26-2008, 11:45 AM
I like the idea, but here is the problem. WHo are the current top 8?

1. Alabama
2. Texas
3. Oklahoma
4. Florida
5. USC
6. Utah
7. Texas Tech
8. Penn State

So out of these top 8 we have:
3 Big XII South Teams
2 SEC Teams
1 Pac 10 team
1 Big X team
1 non BCS Conference Team

There are no ACC or Big East teams here. Why would they be ok with this system? In the current system, they get an automatic bid with maybe #16 Cincinnati and perhaps #22 Florida State. They give up lots of $ if they were to lose their automatic bowl bid. So, while I think your idea is great in Theory, it will not come to fruition.

You would need a BCS scoring system that would some how (no idea how) determine when "off conference" teams deserve to truly be top 8.

For example - I don't think Ball state could go toe to toe with any of the current top 8. I don't think Florida State could, either.

Those schools would also need to start scheduling games against the big 6 conferences until the system catches up - for example, OSU plays UC a lot. If we kill them, and end up #10, it's hard to argue UC belongs in the top 10.

I know it seems like a really forgein concept - but look at basketball. And I like the idea of an NIT type tourney for those outside the top 8. And crap bowls for everyone else.

Blake
11-26-2008, 11:13 PM
Personally I cant see them going to a playoff system even in 2013 or whatever. There is too much money to be made with all these bowls, and their TV deals because these next 2 weeks of football are going to be viewed by millions. If there was a playoff, teams would be resting starters, and nobody would care once they clinched a spot IMO.

Just the amount of interest that I have in my Longhorns this past week, and if they win tomorrow, the next few weeks, is insane. I cant get enough and it makes me sick!

texanhead08
11-26-2008, 11:27 PM
As long as the tv networks keep throwin cash at the NCAA everytime the contract runs out there won't be a playoff. If they stopped then maybe but there are too afraid the next channel will so it won't happen anytime soon.

Corrosion
11-26-2008, 11:30 PM
As long as the tv networks keep throwin cash at the NCAA everytime the contract runs out there won't be a playoff. If they stopped then maybe but there are too afraid the next channel will so it won't happen anytime soon.

Both the TV stations and Colleges could make more money in a playoff format than they do now. They could incorporate the bowl games into the playoffs. But thats far too simple and makes far too much sense for college ....

bah007
12-01-2008, 12:12 AM
Final strength of schedule:

1. Virginia
2. Duke
3. North Carolina St
4. Wake Forest
5. Baylor
6. Washington
7. Georgia
8. Colorado
9. North Carolina
10. South Carolina
.
.
.
12. Texas
17. Oklahoma
26. Texas Tech
28. Florida
33. USC
59. Penn St
72. Utah
73. Alabama

bah007
12-01-2008, 05:21 PM
My top 25 based on resume:

1. Oklahoma (11-1)
2. Texas (11-1)
3. Alabama (12-0)
4. Florida (11-1)
5. USC (10-1)
6. Texas Tech (11-1)
7. Penn St (11-1)
8. Utah (12-0)
9. Boise St (12-0)
10. Ohio St (10-2)
11. TCU (10-2)
12. Oklahoma St (9-3)
13. Ball St (12-0)
14. Missouri (9-3)
15. Georgia Tech (9-3)
16. Boston College (9-3)
17. Oregon (9-3)
18. Georgia (9-3)
19. Cincinnati (10-2)
20. BYU (10-2)
21. Mississippi (8-4)
22. Michigan St (9-3)
23. Florida St (8-4)
24. Virginia Tech (8-4)
25. Iowa (8-4)


OU is only on top because of alphabetical order, O comes before T. I consider OU & Texas to be tied for first.

bah007
12-05-2008, 04:26 PM
This isn't official and I don't even have a link I can provide but I've been hearing a very nice rumor regarding the BCS bowl situation.

Apparently Fox (who holds the rights to the BCS games right now) is trying to get the Fiesta Bowl to take Ohio St vs Utah so that Texas can face Florida/Alabama loser in the Sugar Bowl.

That way, the #1 SEC team would face the #1 Big XII team for the title and the #2 SEC team would face the #2 Big XII team in the Sugar Bowl.

Hope it happens.

rmartin65
12-05-2008, 05:02 PM
This isn't official and I don't even have a link I can provide but I've been hearing a very nice rumor regarding the BCS bowl situation.

Apparently Fox (who holds the rights to the BCS games right now) is trying to get the Fiesta Bowl to take Ohio St vs Utah so that Texas can face Florida/Alabama loser in the Sugar Bowl.

That way, the #1 SEC team would face the #1 Big XII team for the title and the #2 SEC team would face the #2 Big XII team in the Sugar Bowl.

Hope it happens.

That would be awesome! I would actually vote for UT then...

Yankee_In_TX
12-05-2008, 05:34 PM
Boooooooooo! We win, well, we beat Utah. We lose, well, we lost to utah.

Give us Texas.

gwallaia
12-05-2008, 05:50 PM
Tee Hee
http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/local/Attacks_on_Mack_Brown_take_to_the_air

bah007
12-05-2008, 06:06 PM
Tee Hee
http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/local/Attacks_on_Mack_Brown_take_to_the_air

Funny how I never heard Mack whine.

I heard him say why his team deserved to go more than OU. Just like I heard Stoops say the same thing about his team and UT.

bah007
12-05-2008, 06:08 PM
Boooooooooo! We win, well, we beat Utah. We lose, well, we lost to utah.

Give us Texas.

We are in the same boat Yankee.

I really hope this goes through and we get Bama in the Sugar (sorry).

But if it doesn't, I would much rather play OSU. Beating Utah earns you nothing cuz you were "supposed" to beat them.

Yankee_In_TX
12-05-2008, 06:11 PM
Maybe we'll get an SEC team and a chance to go 9-1.

bah007
12-05-2008, 06:13 PM
Maybe we'll get an SEC team and a chance to go 9-1.

Then hope Texas & OU play for the title and y'all can play Alabama in the Fiesta Bowl while Florida beats up Utah in the Sugar.

Yankee_In_TX
12-05-2008, 06:47 PM
Then hope Texas & OU play for the title and y'all can play Alabama in the Fiesta Bowl while Florida beats up Utah in the Sugar.

Oops, wishful thinking, 1-9.

However, living in Houston, I'd much rather play Texas :)

BullBlitz
12-05-2008, 07:16 PM
BTW, you don't think Texas would dominate Tech in Austin in front of a fired up crowd? I do.

I don't.

Sal Rosenberg
12-05-2008, 07:44 PM
Then hope Texas & OU play for the title and y'all can play Alabama in the Fiesta Bowl while Florida beats up Utah in the Sugar.

Is there are chance Texas could go to the Sugar Bowl?I am usually down there for New Year's ANYWAY!

bah007
12-05-2008, 10:10 PM
Is there are chance Texas could go to the Sugar Bowl?I am usually down there for New Year's ANYWAY!

In any normal year, Texas would be headed to the Fiesta Bowl.

As I said, I heard Fox is trying to work a deal with the bowl committees so that Texas can go to the Sugar and Utah can play Ohio St in the Fiesta Bowl.

If I find anything on this in writing I will post the link.

WolverineFan
12-06-2008, 03:42 AM
Doesn't really matter seeing as how UT will dominate whichever team they play in their bowl game. The exception is Florida if UT does make the Nat'l Title game.

bah007
12-07-2008, 08:06 PM
BCS Bowl games are being officially announced.

First up:

Rose Bowl - #5 USC vs. #8 Penn St

No surprises there.

bah007
12-07-2008, 08:06 PM
Orange Bowl - #12 Cincinnati vs. #19 Virginia Tech

bah007
12-07-2008, 08:14 PM
Sugar Bowl - #4 Alabama vs. #6 Utah

bah007
12-07-2008, 08:14 PM
Fiesta Bowl - #3 Texas vs. #10 Ohio St

bah007
12-07-2008, 08:16 PM
That of course leaves #1 Oklahoma vs. #2 Florida in the National Championship.

awtysst
12-07-2008, 08:18 PM
No surprises there. UT needs to absolutely beat down Ohio State and hope for a split Natl Championship.

Sal Rosenberg
12-07-2008, 08:19 PM
How about Alabama vs Tech or UT?I was hoping to see some good games

bah007
12-07-2008, 08:20 PM
How about Alabama vs Tech or UT?I was hoping to see some good games

Tech can't be in the BCS. Only two teams per conference.

Sal Rosenberg
12-07-2008, 08:21 PM
Tech can't be in the BCS. Only two teams per conference.

Gotcha!That is boring.

bah007
12-07-2008, 08:22 PM
Gotcha!That is boring.

I don't think they ever thought the same conference would have three teams in the top seven when they created that rule.

WWJD
12-07-2008, 08:23 PM
Is Harrell even going to be able to play in a bowl game with his finger?

bah007
12-07-2008, 08:24 PM
Is Harrell even going to be able to play in a bowl game with his finger?

I think he got plates put in so that he could play. So yes, I think.

Sal Rosenberg
12-07-2008, 08:25 PM
Bradford had surgery on his hand this morning also.

gjmac2
12-07-2008, 08:26 PM
The BCS is a joke.

Fans and media should not recognize this farce of a national championship. We should all demand a playoff, pure and simple.

I think 12 teams should do it. Settle everything on the field, not with computers.

WWJD
12-07-2008, 08:27 PM
I think he got plates put in so that he could play. So yes, I think.

Well good. I heard he broke it in 9 places. That sounds like a injury that could keep him out for a long time so it's good to see he will be able to finish up with a bowl appearance.

bah007
12-07-2008, 08:28 PM
The BCS is a joke.

Fans and media should not recognize this farce of a national championship. We should all demand a playoff, pure and simple.

I think 12 teams should do it. Settle everything on the field, not with computers.

How would 12 work? First-round bye for seeded teams?

The BCS is not a joke. It is better than the previous system. But PLEASE can we upgrade to a playoff!

Sal Rosenberg
12-07-2008, 08:30 PM
How would 12 work? First-round bye for seeded teams?

The BCS is not a joke. It is better than the previous system. But PLEASE can we upgrade to a playoff!

Wouldn't you like to see Texas play Bama?

bah007
12-07-2008, 08:33 PM
Wouldn't you like to see Texas play Bama?

Hell yes.

That doesn't mean the BCS is worse than what we used to have.

awtysst
12-07-2008, 08:34 PM
Wouldn't you like to see Texas play Bama?

Texas would annihilate Bama. John Parker Wilson would get harassed by the Texas defense and the Bama D is not good enough to stop the Texas offense.

TD
12-07-2008, 08:38 PM
The BCS is not a joke. It is better than the previous system. But PLEASE can we upgrade to a playoff!

Disagree. Both the old system and BcS produce a mythical championship decided by people off the field. The only difference is the BcS pretends its definitive.

I prefer the old system of traditional bowls, and spirited discussion to this pile of horse sh!t.

bah007
12-07-2008, 08:42 PM
Disagree. Both the old system and BcS produced a mythical championship open to debate. the only difference is the BcS pretends its definitive.

I prefer the old system of traditional bowls, and spirited discussion to the this pile of horse sh!t.

I'm not saying that it's perfect. In fact, it is far far from perfect.

But I like that the BCS at least tries to set up a "championship game" between #1 and #2.

I like that mid majors have a chance to break into the mainstream by making it into a BCS game. Could Boise St and Utah get the exposure they get now under the former system?

I see the BCS as a step forward. Eventually, I think we will see a playoff. Until then, we will have to keep taking baby steps toward it. The BCS is the first step. Soon, I expect we will see some sort of plus one format. Then, some type of playoff.

ATXtexanfan
12-07-2008, 08:53 PM
The only way there will be a playoff is if one of the cable companies throw out an obscene amont of cash for exclusive rights, define obscene to school AD's

gjmac2
12-07-2008, 09:06 PM
How would 12 work? First-round bye for seeded teams?

The BCS is not a joke. It is better than the previous system. But PLEASE can we upgrade to a playoff!

Yes, the # 1 through # 4 ranked teams would get a first round bye.

In other words, copy the NFL playoff system. Same format.

My teams would be, in no particular order:

USC
Ohio State
Oklahoma
Texas
Texas Tech
Florida
Alabama
Penn State
Virginia Tech
Cincinnati
Utah
Boise State

Settle it on the field.

Ole Miss Texan
12-07-2008, 10:33 PM
Well I think all the Texas fans are going to be happy about these bowl matchups!

1. ATM isn't in a bowl game
2. Texas will destroy Ohio St.
3. Florida will beat OU
4. and Texas Tech will lose to Ole Miss :whip:

Ole Miss Texan
12-07-2008, 10:37 PM
I still like the popular 8 team format:
Fiesta, Sugar, Rose, and Orange

Winners of Fiesta and Rose face each other in the 2nd round
Winners of Sugar and Orange face each other in the 2nd round

Winners of those two games play in the BCS Championship Game or whatever they wanna call it.

2 teams would play one more game than normal, and 2 teams would play 2 more games than normal. I think those 4 teams would benefit financially by those extra games as well as with recruitment.

That's the easiest way to make a playoff system in my opinion and still incorporate the top 4 bowl games and their sponsors.

axman40
12-07-2008, 10:43 PM
Well I think all the Texas fans are going to be happy about these bowl matchups!

1. ATM isn't in a bowl game
2. Texas will destroy Ohio St.
3. Florida will beat OU
4. and Texas Tech will lose to Ole Miss :whip:
1. I don't care
2. I hope so and this will be the bowl exhibtion game I will watch!
3.Maybe , I would not count out OU but will probably watch The Texas v. USC Rose Bowl again.
4. Closing I don't care , say bye bye to Mike Leach for me
:specnatz:

gwallaia
12-08-2008, 05:52 PM
Don't cry for 'Horns, Trojans -- they'll be back

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Quit your bitching, Texas. You too, Southern California.
Shut up, the both of you

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/11158005/rss

TD
12-08-2008, 07:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r53zA57GQpI

Wolf
12-08-2008, 08:15 PM
Does anyone else find it funny that #19 Virgina Tech is going to Orange bowl..

lots of colleges have to be kinda ticked err disappointed .. bigger payout to go to that game

dc_txtech
12-08-2008, 09:59 PM
Well I think all the Texas fans are going to be happy about these bowl matchups!

1. ATM isn't in a bowl game
2. Texas will destroy Ohio St.
3. Florida will beat OU
4. and Texas Tech will lose to Ole Miss :whip:

If you couldn't beat us with Eli, what chance do you have now? :whip:

JK, I really don't know much about ya'lls team. Hopefully it's a good game, these last couple of Tech bowl games have taken years off my life. One more like the last two and I just might go bald.

kastofsna
12-08-2008, 10:05 PM
Does anyone else find it funny that #19 Virgina Tech is going to Orange bowl..

lots of colleges have to be kinda ticked err disappointed .. bigger payout to go to that game

not really funny, they won the ACC, no one expected a great team out of that conference, and they went last year

Speedy
12-08-2008, 10:50 PM
Hell yes.

That doesn't mean the BCS is worse than what we used to have.
And just because the BCS may be better than what was before doesn't mean it's not a joke.

Ole Miss Texan
12-09-2008, 10:37 AM
If you couldn't beat us with Eli, what chance do you have now? :whip:
Zing! no comment.

JK, I really don't know much about ya'lls team. Hopefully it's a good game, these last couple of Tech bowl games have taken years off my life. One more like the last two and I just might go bald.
I'm hoping it's a good game and doesn't turn into a blowout. In my opinion, we've got one of the best DL's in the nation that gave fits to Bama, Florida and LSU (maybe LSU is a bad example :)) But Tech is a whole different beast. A lot hinges on how Harrell's nonthrowing hand feels during the game or if he's getting hit a lot + if Crabtree is slowed down any and if we can get pressure on yall. Your OL has some big boys on it, so I'll be really interested in how we try and attack you.

bah007
12-09-2008, 12:37 PM
Zing! no comment.


I'm hoping it's a good game and doesn't turn into a blowout. In my opinion, we've got one of the best DL's in the nation that gave fits to Bama, Florida and LSU (maybe LSU is a bad example :)) But Tech is a whole different beast. A lot hinges on how Harrell's nonthrowing hand feels during the game or if he's getting hit a lot + if Crabtree is slowed down any and if we can get pressure on yall. Your OL has some big boys on it, so I'll be really interested in how we try and attack you.

Ole Miss has a lot of speed on the DL. They should attack with that.

I mentioned this a few weeks ago, but I will bring it up again. Tech is praying that they get a Big XII officiating crew for this game. I would estimate that Big XII crews made less than ten holding calls in conference games this season. They just flat out don't flag it.

If Tech's o line gets away with holding, they blow this thing open. If not, we see what they are really made of. I'm hoping for the later. This has the potential to be a great game.

Battle Red Flash
12-12-2008, 11:33 AM
It's a shame Ohio State gets into a BCS game and not Boise.


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