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Wolf
11-22-2008, 05:31 PM
so who you got?

I originally said OU would take them, but with the bi-week of last week, I think TT will be coming out fresh

bah007
11-22-2008, 05:35 PM
Texas Tech hasn't had an offensive holding penalty called on them in the last 6 games.

I think OU gets some home field advantage calls tonight and makes the best of them.

OU 40-38

Wolf
11-22-2008, 05:40 PM
Texas Tech hasn't had an offensive holding penalty called on them in the last 6 games.

I think OU gets some home field advantage calls tonight and makes the best of them.

OU 40-38

6 games wow, that is unreal, I thought against UT I saw a couple of potential holding calls that weren't called. I am not saying that to be a sore loser because UT lost( UT didn't get things rolling until late and that is their own fault ), I just saw a few times where the D-lineman was taken down and at the time I was suprised nothing was called

Corrosion
11-22-2008, 05:41 PM
Even has a Longhorn fan .... I gotta say I hope TT wins this thing. Its good for the big 12 that they are strong and someone other than UT & OU have enough talent to win . There is nothing better than winning a championship. They wont be in the hunt next year , gonna lose a lot of as will OU .... The Horns will likely be very good again next season.


The beat down that TT put on OSU made a believer out of me , their defense is under rated ....

bah007
11-22-2008, 05:43 PM
6 games wow, that is unreal, I thought against UT I saw a couple of potential holding calls that weren't called. I am not saying that to be a sore loser because UT lost( UT didn't get things rolling until late and that is their own fault ), I just saw a few times where the D-lineman was taken down and at the time I was suprised nothing was called

There were numerous holds in that game, but UT knew there would be going in.

That was the same crew that reffed the UT-OU game and didn't call any holds.

Seems like the Big XII refs in general are calling less holds this year, and not just when Tech is playing.

bah007
11-22-2008, 05:48 PM
Even has a Longhorn fan .... I gotta say I hope TT wins this thing. Its good for the big 12 that they are strong and someone other than UT & OU have enough talent to win . There is nothing better than winning a championship. They wont be in the hunt next year , gonna lose a lot of as will OU .... The Horns will likely be very good again next season.


The beat down that TT put on OSU made a believer out of me , their defense is under rated ....

Tech's defense as a whole isn't great (its good). But their d-line is so awesome that it covers all their weaknesses.

If Tech wins, we go to the Fiesta.....probably play USC.

If OU wins, we either go to the NC and play the SEC champion, or we go to the Fiesta.

mexican_texan
11-22-2008, 05:51 PM
I'm taking OU on this one.

Corrosion
11-22-2008, 05:51 PM
Tech's defense as a whole isn't great (its good). But their d-line is so awesome that it covers all their weaknesses.

If Tech wins, we go to the Fiesta.....probably play USC.

If OU wins, we either go to the NC and play the SEC champion, or we go to the Fiesta.

I can handle a Fiesta Bowl .... and a beatdown of USC , they havent played a team yet that has near the talent that UT , OU , OSU or TT has and It would be nice to kick the shit outa them and prove a point. Pac-10 = Over rated.

Wolf
11-22-2008, 05:52 PM
IF UT would happen to go to the NC and somehow wins ... wow what a story for Colt


I might join in on the Colt to Texans bandwagon in 09 or 10 LOL

and then maybe KEYE would take notice of another Texas boy doing good
:kingkong:

Sal Rosenberg
11-22-2008, 06:23 PM
Texas wants OU to win?

bah007
11-22-2008, 06:25 PM
Texas wants OU to win?

The fan base is split.

Half believe that if OU beats Tech we will win the tiebreaker so they cheer for OU tonight.

The other half believe that OU would jump us so they cheer for Tech.

Better Tech in the NC than OU.

Showtime100
11-22-2008, 06:27 PM
I'm pulling for Tech, but I'm really just excited to watch the game. I believe the curtain falls tonight for Tech, but who knows.

Sal Rosenberg
11-22-2008, 06:30 PM
OU SHOULD NOT JUMP OVER US IN THE STANDINGS:foottap:

bah007
11-22-2008, 06:32 PM
OU SHOULD NOT JUMP OVER US IN THE STANDINGS:foottap:

That remains to be seen.

The whole body of work has to be accounted for.

If they beat Tech by 28 points tonight it will be very hard for us to stay in front of them in the human polls.

ATX
11-22-2008, 06:35 PM
So what happens if OU beats TT as far as the Big 12 South goes?

Texas beats OU
TT beats Texas
OU beats TT

Who goes to the Big 12 championship game?

bah007
11-22-2008, 06:35 PM
So what happens if OU beats TT as far as the Big 12 South goes?

Texas beats OU
TT beats Texas
OU beats TT

Who goes to the Big 12 championship game?

Whoever is ranked highest in the BCS.

ATX
11-22-2008, 06:36 PM
That remains to be seen.

The whole body of work has to be accounted for.

If they beat Tech by 28 points tonight it will be very hard for us to stay in front of them in the human polls.

It would be a bunch of BS if OU jumped Texas considering UT beat them on a neutral field, while UT lost on a hail mary on the road.

ATX
11-22-2008, 06:37 PM
I hope OU wins just to see the mess it will create.

bah007
11-22-2008, 06:37 PM
It would be a bunch of BS if OU jumped Texas considering UT beat them on a neutral field, while UT lost on a hail mary on the road.

Personally, I agree.

But the voters have a proven history of having a short memory.

bah007
11-22-2008, 06:38 PM
I hope OU wins just to see the mess it will create.

I don't.

That makes things completely unfair for Tech because they would probably be sent all the way down to the Cotton Bowl.

ATX
11-22-2008, 06:42 PM
I don't.

That makes things completely unfair for Tech because they would probably be sent all the way down to the Cotton Bowl.

This is why I just can't get into college football. Sure it can be fun to watch at times, but it's like figure skating, diving, or any other sport where judges(ie voters) pick the winners. I know it's not exactly like that, but close enough for me to put it in the same category.

Hardcore Texan
11-22-2008, 06:52 PM
I'm heading to my neighbors to watch the game....should be interesting. I hope it's a tight game. If OU wins by a few points UT should move up and not get leap frogged by OU. My gut is for TT, but Texas' best shot is OU winning by a slight margin.....and I hate the Sooners.

bah007
11-22-2008, 07:13 PM
Here we go...

bah007
11-22-2008, 07:15 PM
LOL. Tech's right tackle gets away with hands to the face on the first pass play.

bah007
11-22-2008, 07:20 PM
Here we see the difference between OU and Texas.

Texas tried to be finesse against Tech, OU looks like they are gonna just try to punch Tech right in the face.

Sal Rosenberg
11-22-2008, 07:26 PM
OU by 3

bah007
11-22-2008, 07:27 PM
OU by 3

I picked OU 40-38 but this is looking like the first half of the Tech-UT game, except Tech is the one struggling.

Sal Rosenberg
11-22-2008, 07:28 PM
I picked OU 40-38 but this is looking like the first half of the Tech-UT game, except Tech is the one struggling.

OU 's defense is better than everyone thinks.Defense wins ball games....right?

bah007
11-22-2008, 07:31 PM
OU 's defense is better than everyone thinks.Defense wins ball games....right?

That's the consensus.

OU is a little bit weak at CB, but their DL is pretty good.

They will miss Ryan Reynolds in the middle of the field again.

OU is #1 in the conference in total defense and #4 in scoring defense.

Tech is #3 in total defense and #2 in scoring defense.

Corrosion
11-22-2008, 07:37 PM
Tech just got screwed on a play at the sideline .... catch was made , foot was in ball was knocked out after the player was down ....

bah007
11-22-2008, 07:38 PM
The key for OU is to limit the yards after catch for Tech. They have done well so far.

Tech needs to dominate the line of scrimmage on defense. They got beat up on the first drive.

bah007
11-22-2008, 07:38 PM
Tech just got screwed on a play at the sideline .... catch was made , foot was in ball was knocked out after the player was down ....

Nope.

Ground can cause an incompletion. He has to maintain possession all the way down, whether in bounds or out.

Sal Rosenberg
11-22-2008, 07:53 PM
I have said it before and I will say it again.Tech's defense sucks.

bah007
11-22-2008, 07:58 PM
I have said it before and I will say it again.Tech's defense sucks.

This is what a good running game can do for an offense.

Play action all day long.

Sal Rosenberg
11-22-2008, 07:59 PM
This is what a good running game can do for an offense.

Play action all day long.

Texas can not pop you in the mouth the way ou can

bah007
11-22-2008, 08:01 PM
Texas can not pop you in the mouth the way ou can

No sir we cannot.

They have more talent on the OL plus more talent at RB.

We run a finesse offense. They don't.

Sal Rosenberg
11-22-2008, 08:03 PM
No sir we cannot.

They have more talent on the OL plus more talent at RB.

We run a finesse offense. They don't.

The Longhorns remind me of the Texans(but better).

bah007
11-22-2008, 08:04 PM
The Longhorns remind me of the Texans(but better).

Better defense for sure.

Sal Rosenberg
11-22-2008, 08:07 PM
Someone asked OD why the Texans did not have a person who could get them mad.OD protected his teammates(as always) and he said "what's the point of getting mad" .As much as I hate ou, the Texans and Texas need to take notes.PLOW SOMEBODY!ANYBODY!

bah007
11-22-2008, 08:09 PM
Harrell holds the ball forever.

He goes through his progression slower than a high school QB.

Sal Rosenberg
11-22-2008, 08:11 PM
Harrell holds the ball forever.

He goes through his progression slower than a high school QB.


I do not want to draft that dudd

bah007
11-22-2008, 08:12 PM
DeMarco Murray looks like Reggie Bush vs. Fresno St out there.

They can't tackle him.

awtysst
11-22-2008, 08:13 PM
It OU keeps this up, they will jump over us this week. They will then need to beat Okie State to hold us off.

Sad thing for tech is they could go from the Natl championship to the Holiday bowl in one game.

Sal Rosenberg
11-22-2008, 08:13 PM
DeMarco Murray looks like Reggie Bush vs. Fresno St out there.

They can't tackle him.

Bradford is making him look good.And vice versa!

bah007
11-22-2008, 08:14 PM
Bradford is making him look good.And vice versa!

That's true.

Bradford makes all those guys look better.

bah007
11-22-2008, 08:15 PM
It OU keeps this up, they will jump over us this week. They will then need to beat Okie State to hold us off.

Sad thing for tech is they could go from the Natl championship to the Holiday bowl in one game.

I think they would get the Cotton Bowl and Mizzou would fall to the Holiday.

Wolf
11-22-2008, 08:15 PM
some one came to play and someone didn't so far it seems.. but still a long game

bah007
11-22-2008, 08:17 PM
Play action to the TE.

Does Tech have safeties?

Damn you Jermichael Finley. We could have used you.

Sal Rosenberg
11-22-2008, 08:17 PM
You have to attack ttu

mexican_texan
11-22-2008, 08:18 PM
We have to draft someone from OU

Sal Rosenberg
11-22-2008, 08:19 PM
We have to draft someone from OU

the D line with Mario would look nice

bah007
11-22-2008, 08:20 PM
We have to draft someone from OU

Stoops or Venables to call our defense?

mexican_texan
11-22-2008, 08:23 PM
Whoever's covering Crabtree...Jackson?

bah007
11-22-2008, 08:24 PM
Whoever's covering Crabtree...Jackson?

Brian Jackson is their best CB so probably.

bah007
11-22-2008, 08:25 PM
On running plays Tech's d-line is getting pushed back 6-10 yards off the snap.

bah007
11-22-2008, 08:27 PM
Play action to the TE wide open again. Gresham drops the TD.

mexican_texan
11-22-2008, 08:28 PM
Wow...was that Jacques Reeves out there? How can 3 guys be juked so...synchronized?

bah007
11-22-2008, 08:28 PM
Oh well.

Manuel Johnson picks it up. I think he broke someone's ankle....or ego.

Sal Rosenberg
11-22-2008, 08:28 PM
i have said it before and i will say it again.tech's defense sucks.

woot!

mexican_texan
11-22-2008, 08:31 PM
What's Bill Yeoman doing out there? Why would you offside kick with that kind of lead?

Sal Rosenberg
11-22-2008, 08:32 PM
We want Jackson on our squad

bah007
11-22-2008, 08:33 PM
What's Bill Yeoman doing out there? Why would you offside kick with that kind of lead?

Looked like the kicker messed up on a squib kick.

LOL at Eric Morris talking trash while down 28.

bah007
11-22-2008, 08:43 PM
Important games going on...

Oregon St losing to Arizona
Potential impact: OSU loss give the Pac 10 to USC

Cincinnati beating Pitt
Potential impact: Winner is in the driver's seat for the Big East auto bid to the BCS

Florida St beating Maryland
Potential impact: FSU win puts them in the ACC championship game

mexican_texan
11-22-2008, 08:44 PM
How the ACC has fallen...a few years ago, an unranked team wouldn't get in the championship game....and Florida State wouldn't be unranked.

bah007
11-22-2008, 08:47 PM
How the ACC has fallen...a few years ago, an unranked team wouldn't get in the championship game....and Florida State wouldn't be unranked.

I can't tell if it's parity or mediocrity.

There are undoubtedly some talented teams in the ACC. They just aren't consistent week to week.

mexican_texan
11-22-2008, 08:49 PM
I'm not saying the game's over, but the fat lady's on the stage

Sal Rosenberg
11-22-2008, 08:49 PM
I'm not saying the game's over, but the fat lady's on the stage

wonderful

Showtime100
11-22-2008, 08:51 PM
I'm not saying the game's over, but the fat lady's on the stage

I hear singing..lol.

ATX
11-22-2008, 08:59 PM
OU is killing Tech....oh wait y'all know that.

TexanSam
11-22-2008, 09:00 PM
This is about as exciting as the Texas/Mizzou game

TexanSam
11-22-2008, 09:01 PM
Important games going on...

Oregon St losing to Arizona
Potential impact: OSU loss give the Pac 10 to USC


Looks like Oregon State won on a last second field goal. Didn't see the highlights, just the score on ESPN.com.

Showtime100
11-22-2008, 09:05 PM
So, maybe a little halftime college football talk? How long do you think Charlie Weiss has at Notre Dame now? I think a huge buyout is coming. The limb I just went out on is huge, I know, but I just wonder your thoughts out there. Also, possible replacements?

EDIT: Just saw the other thread. My bad.

mexican_texan
11-22-2008, 09:08 PM
He's gone. They're heading towards Syracuse-type football.

awtysst
11-22-2008, 09:09 PM
Ok, so basically the new BCS standings will likely look like this:
1. Alabama-bye week

2. Oklahoma- unless Oklahoma chokes the big lead away a convincing win has them vault Texas.

3. Texas- a bye week

4. Florida- they had a convincing win but they beat The Citadel. The Citadel. The Citadel has beaten 3 D2 schools and Princeton.

5. Utah- an undefeated season for Utah gets them into the top 5.

ATX
11-22-2008, 09:15 PM
Ok, so basically the new BCS standings will likely look like this:
1. Alabama-bye week

2. Oklahoma- unless Oklahoma chokes the big lead away a convincing win has them vault Texas.

3. Texas- a bye week

4. Florida- they had a convincing win but they beat The Citadel. The Citadel. The Citadel has beaten 3 D2 schools and Princeton.

5. Utah- an undefeated season for Utah gets them into the top 5.

And Texas gets screwed

Sal Rosenberg
11-22-2008, 09:16 PM
And Texas gets screwed

How is 6th street looking?

ATX
11-22-2008, 09:17 PM
How is 6th street looking?

Haven't been down there in awhile.

awtysst
11-22-2008, 09:18 PM
And Texas gets screwed

Well, I disagree. Texas had an opportunity to get to the BCS Championship game. They let that opportunity slip through their fingers. Likewise, Tech is letting their chance slip by. When you get to a tie break situation that involves a judges decision, anything can happen. You can't really need to do everything in your power to prevent that. We had a chance to prevent that and we didn't take advantage.

Carr Bombed
11-22-2008, 09:18 PM
The BCS screws us out of a true champion again........Unless Alabama knocks off Florida and wins the whole thing (which isn't going to happen)

ATX
11-22-2008, 09:20 PM
So barring a miracle......

Texas beats OU on a neutral field, loses on the road on a hail mary

OU beats Tech at home big and loses on a neutral field to UT

Tech beats UT at home and loses big on the road to OU

All 3 will most likely have 1 loss, who plays in the Big 12 Championship game and who plays for a National Championship?

Sal Rosenberg
11-22-2008, 09:21 PM
Well, I disagree. Texas had an opportunity to get to the BCS Championship game. They let that opportunity slip through their fingers. Likewise, Tech is letting their chance slip by. When you get to a tie break situation that involves a judges decision, anything can happen. You can't really need to do everything in your power to prevent that. We had a chance to prevent that and we didn't take advantage.

Tech is done

Showtime100
11-22-2008, 09:22 PM
The BCS screws us out of a true champion again........Unless Alabama knocks off Florida and wins the whole thing (which isn't going to happen)

Agreed. Moreover there is no way to convince the NCAA to give up those dollars for a playoff system, though I think it can be done.

Carr Bombed
11-22-2008, 09:22 PM
Well, I disagree. Texas had an opportunity to get to the BCS Championship game. They let that opportunity slip through their fingers.

Litteraly......the gift wrapped tipped pass INT that was dropped cost them a chance for a NC

But Texas is still alive.......a miracle could happen and OU could lose in the big 12 championship.

ATX
11-22-2008, 09:22 PM
Well, I disagree. Texas had an opportunity to get to the BCS Championship game. They let that opportunity slip through their fingers. Likewise, Tech is letting their chance slip by. When you get to a tie break situation that involves a judges decision, anything can happen. You can't really need to do everything in your power to prevent that. We had a chance to prevent that and we didn't take advantage.

So OU didn't let their opportunity slip when UT beat them on a neutral field? When was the last time the loser of the OU-UT game went to the national championship when both had 1 loss? OU and Tech both will have won on home fields.

mexican_texan
11-22-2008, 09:23 PM
They still have to beat A&M

Carr Bombed
11-22-2008, 09:24 PM
They still have to beat A&M

After the last two years, I'm sure UT has been looking forward to thanksgiving all year......payback is coming.

but yeah they still have to beat them.

ATX
11-22-2008, 09:24 PM
They still have to beat A&M

Good point....it would be embarrassing to lose to A&M after Baylor beat them down.

gg no re
11-22-2008, 09:29 PM
someone needs to invent three-way football to solve this dilemma

Sal Rosenberg
11-22-2008, 09:30 PM
They still have to beat A&M

BAYLOR beat a & m

awtysst
11-22-2008, 09:33 PM
So OU didn't let their opportunity slip when UT beat them on a neutral field? When was the last time the loser of the OU-UT game went to the national championship when both had 1 loss? OU and Tech both will have won on home fields.

Yeah they did. But what I am saying is that all three had a chance to play for the National Championship and let that opportunity slip. The point is any of the three win out, there is no tie, so yes, OU slipped too.

The difference is that one team has to go to the Big XII Championship game. I am a UT fan and I want to see Texas there, but I can understand why people would vote for OU. The point is when you get to a judgment situation people place importance in different areas. The best kind of judgment is no judgment at all. The best way to do it is to win it on the field.

mexican_texan
11-22-2008, 09:34 PM
BAYLOR beat a & m
It doesn't matter, A&M throws away the 2nd half of the season to concentrate on UT

Sal Rosenberg
11-22-2008, 09:35 PM
It doesn't matter, A&M throws away the 2nd half of the season to concentrate on UT

Agreed.A& M is pathetic.

awtysst
11-22-2008, 09:35 PM
It doesn't matter, A&M throws away the 2nd half of the season to concentrate on UT

Yeah, you are right. But UT has had plenty of time to get ready. Again, its an opportunity. Texas must win and leave it all on the field.

ATX
11-22-2008, 09:36 PM
Yeah they did. But what I am saying is that all three had a chance to play for the National Championship and let that opportunity slip. The point is any of the three win out, there is no tie, so yes, OU slipped too.

The difference is that one team has to go to the Big XII Championship game. I am a UT fan and I want to see Texas there, but I can understand why people would vote for OU. The point is when you get to a judgment situation people place importance in different areas. The best kind of judgment is no judgment at all. The best way to do it is to win it on the field.

This is why the BCS is crap. I'm still trying to figure out who goes to the Big 12 Championship game......does it go to strength of schedule, points scored, etc or do judges decide?

Meanwhile if OU jumps Texas, Texas is saying we beat them....if Texas jumps to #2, Tech says we beat them, and if Tech stays at #2(which won't happen) OU says we beat them. Where does it end?

mexican_texan
11-22-2008, 09:40 PM
Agreed.A& M is pathetic.
Almost as much as their fans. I don't know any college football fans as annoying as Aggies.

Sal Rosenberg
11-22-2008, 09:40 PM
Almost as much as their fans. I don't know any college football fans as annoying as Aggies.

Auburn?

stingray
11-22-2008, 09:42 PM
This is why the BCS is crap. I'm still trying to figure out who goes to the Big 12 Championship game......does it go to strength of schedule, points scored, etc or do judges decide?

Meanwhile if OU jumps Texas, Texas is saying we beat them....if Texas jumps to #2, Tech says we beat them, and if Tech stays at #2(which won't happen) OU says we beat them. Where does it end?

The team that is ranked higher in the BCS Poll will go to the Big 12 Championship. Heard it last night on ESPN Radio.

awtysst
11-22-2008, 09:44 PM
This is why the BCS is crap. I'm still trying to figure out who goes to the Big 12 Championship game......does it go to strength of schedule, points scored, etc or do judges decide?

Meanwhile if OU jumps Texas, Texas is saying we beat them....if Texas jumps to #2, Tech says we beat them, and if Tech stays at #2(which won't happen) OU says we beat them. Where does it end?

I agree the BCS is crap. But, its what we have right now, so its important to understand how it works. The first tie break is head to head matchups. The important tie breaker(and the one that will play this time) is final BCS ranking. This means after all regular season games have been played, the Big XII south team with the highest BCS ranking goes to the Big XII champ game.

Based on today, I see the human polls moving Oklahoma past UT. The computer polls likley will not. I think that the human polls will proclaim Oklaoma to be #1 and that will be just enough to get them ahead of UT. I predict that UT beats A&M and Oklahoma beats OKlahoma State. The win over A&M will not be enough as the computer polls will actually help Oklahoma in that scenario.

Oklahoma goes to the Natl Championship and UT goes to the Fiesta Bowl.

ATX
11-22-2008, 09:46 PM
The team that is ranked higher in the BCS Poll will go to the Big 12 Championship. Heard it last night on ESPN Radio.

Yeah, I just read that too. I hate the BCS, but maybe this is what is needed to finally get rid of it for good. Maybe Florida beats Alabama and UT and OU play it out for the national championship? I could live with that......sorry Tech.

Wolf
11-22-2008, 10:33 PM
what I hate most about the polls is that it isn't if you lose it is WHEN you lose

TexanSam
11-22-2008, 10:37 PM
Sam Bradford is probably the favorite for the Heisman now

Showtime100
11-22-2008, 10:49 PM
After watching the game and seeing the fans I don't think I'll go on any rafting trips in Oklahoma...ever. :D

bah007
11-22-2008, 10:51 PM
Sam Bradford is probably the favorite for the Heisman now

Two man race between him and McCoy.

bah007
11-22-2008, 10:53 PM
what I hate most about the polls is that it isn't if you lose it is WHEN you lose

Absolutely correct.

If UT had lost to OU instead of Tech & OU had lost to Tech instead of UT no doubt Texas would be ranked higher because they lost first.

Mr teX
11-22-2008, 10:56 PM
So OU didn't let their opportunity slip when UT beat them on a neutral field? When was the last time the loser of the OU-UT game went to the national championship when both had 1 loss? OU and Tech both will have won on home fields.

You guys are making way too much out of this nuetral field thing. Mainly b/c: #1, it was a rivalry game & in this particular case it was The rivalry game for both teams...i.e. anything can happen & u guys found that out against tech. #2, 1-2 plays go the other way, & OU might win that game by 10. Texas got the breaks & won it, but as i've said...it was far from a dominating performance that clearly marked UT as being superior. I would say the same if the shoe were on the other foot. Furthermore I didn't hear any of this home field advantage talk when UT crushed Mizzou at home. UT just peaked too quickly.

The truth is every 1 of these front running big 12 teams has taken advantage of the home field; UT did vs. Mizzou & OSU, Tech did vs. UT & OSU & now OU is vs. Tech. We'll see if they look as dominating against a dangerous OSU team on the road.....which is a rivalry game for OU as well.

imo, based on how bad they're gonna beat tech, OU should jump Texas & so should Florida. The reason is b/c both have showed to be more dominant than Texas as of now:

Alabama
Florida
OU
Texas
Utah
USC

Wolf
11-22-2008, 11:05 PM
true... the non playoff system (I would say is ruining things,but in the age of money and controversy, it improves things for corporate (noth that I agree with it )). It is all about matchups. UT should have taken care of business against TT that is the bottom line

At the time I couldn't believe TT went for a few 4th downs early in the game.. signs of desperation IMO.. but as I told my dad, if they worked it would be considered greatness, but being they didn't ....

JCTexan
11-22-2008, 11:14 PM
You guys are making way too much out of this nuetral field thing. Mainly b/c: #1, it was a rivalry game & in this particular case it was The rivalry game for both teams...i.e. anything can happen & u guys found that out against tech. #2, 1-2 plays go the other way, & OU might win that game by 10. Texas got the breaks & won it, but as i've said...it was far from a dominating performance that clearly marked UT as being superior. I would say the same if the shoe were on the other foot. Furthermore I didn't hear any of this home field advantage talk when UT crushed Mizzou at home. UT just peaked too quickly.

The truth is every 1 of these front running big 12 teams has taken advantage of the home field; UT did vs. Mizzou & OSU, Tech did vs. UT & OSU & now OU is vs. Tech. We'll see if they look as dominating against a dangerous OSU team on the road.....which is a rivalry game for OU as well.

imo, based on how bad they're gonna beat tech, OU should jump Texas & so should Florida. The reason is b/c both have showed to be more dominant than Texas as of now:

Alabama
Florida
OU
Texas
Utah
USC

The only reason I see anybody talking about the nuetral field is because Tech beat Texas in lubbock. Oklahoma beat Tech in Norman, and Texas beat OU in Dallas, which is a nuetral field. Dallas is about the same distance for both teams. Alabama & Florida are going to play each other the last week of the season. The winner of the big 12 will play the winner of that game. The losers probably will play each other. I would like to see UT beat Alabama for the National Championship, & OU beat Florida in the other bcs bowl.

JCTexan
11-22-2008, 11:18 PM
true... the non playoff system (I would say is ruining things,but in the age of money and controversy, it improves things for corporate (noth that I agree with it )). It is all about matchups. UT should have taken care of business against TT that is the bottom line



Can't you say the same thing about OU though? They should have beaten UT? Texas lost on the final play to Tech & beat Oklahoma on a nuetral field. Oklahoma beat Texas Tech in Norman and lost in Dallas against Texas. Who is more deserving of the two? It will be interesting how they rank these two teams.

Corrosion
11-23-2008, 08:04 AM
You guys are making way too much out of this nuetral field thing. Mainly b/c: #1, it was a rivalry game & in this particular case it was The rivalry game for both teams...i.e. anything can happen & u guys found that out against tech. #2, 1-2 plays go the other way, & OU might win that game by 10. Texas got the breaks & won it, but as i've said...it was far from a dominating performance that clearly marked UT as being superior. I would say the same if the shoe were on the other foot. Furthermore I didn't hear any of this home field advantage talk when UT crushed Mizzou at home. UT just peaked too quickly.

The truth is every 1 of these front running big 12 teams has taken advantage of the home field; UT did vs. Mizzou & OSU, Tech did vs. UT & OSU & now OU is vs. Tech. We'll see if they look as dominating against a dangerous OSU team on the road.....which is a rivalry game for OU as well.

imo, based on how bad they're gonna beat tech, OU should jump Texas & so should Florida. The reason is b/c both have showed to be more dominant than Texas as of now:

Alabama
Florida
OU
Texas
Utah
USC

I guess you failed to pay attention to how LOUD that OU crowd was every time TT had the ball .... That was one hell of a crowd. They were as pumped up as I've ever seen them get for UT or OSU.

Mr teX
11-23-2008, 08:50 AM
I guess you failed to pay attention to how LOUD that OU crowd was every time TT had the ball .... That was one hell of a crowd. They were as pumped up as I've ever seen them get for UT or OSU.

Yeah...& ESPN college gameday being in Austin for the UT vs. Mizzou game didn't add anything to the crowd that ultimately showed up for the game that night...especially since it was UT's 1st time playing at home as the #1 ranked team since 1977.......Yeah they were rowdy in norman, but the fans in UT for that mizzou game weren't exactly a non factor either.

It is what it is...but at the end of the day, the teams still have to play.

Corrosion
11-23-2008, 10:17 AM
Yeah...& ESPN college gameday being in Austin for the UT vs. Mizzou game didn't add anything to the crowd that ultimately showed up for the game that night...especially since it was UT's 1st time playing at home as the #1 ranked team since 1977.......Yeah they were rowdy in norman, but the fans in UT for that mizzou game weren't exactly a non factor either.

It is what it is...but at the end of the day, the teams still have to play.

Mizzou is an afterthought in the Big 12 .... but yeah , UT had an advantage with the crowd just as OU has a huge one last night as did TT in its win over UT ..... the UT&OU game is the only one played on a neutral field , the crowd has a much smaller impact on those games.

Goldensilence
11-23-2008, 12:04 PM
Rivalry games can be funny. So what happens if Ok State beats OU?

bah007
11-23-2008, 01:00 PM
Polls are out.....

Coaches Poll:
1. Alabama (56) 1,518
2. Oklahoma (4) 1,412
3. Florida (1) 1,401
4. Texas 1,370
5. USC 1,288

Harris Poll:
1. Alabama (63) 1,622
2. Florida (2) 1,512
3. Oklahoma 1,486
4. Texas 1,482
5. USC 1,352


Thoughts:
How the hell is Utah #7 in the coaches & #8 in the harris?

OU should have enough human points to jump Texas in the BCS. I've seen some of the computers and they have Texas at #1 or #2. It's going to be real close.

I'm betting the BCS comes out:
1. Alabama
2. Oklahoma
3. Texas
4. Florida
5. USC/Utah/Texas Tech

kastofsna
11-23-2008, 03:14 PM
for the past 6-7 games UF has played better than any team i've ever seen, i hope they wind up in the title game, they deserve it. i'm expecting them to completely annihilate Alabama

Wolf
11-23-2008, 03:28 PM
Rivalry games can be funny. So what happens if Ok State beats OU?

yes they can, I think OU is going to dismantle OK state

Corrosion
11-23-2008, 04:09 PM
Rivalry games can be funny. So what happens if Ok State beats OU?

TT will win the Big 12 south and go on to the Big 12 Championship game due to the head to head with Texas.But Texas will likely be #2 if OU falls and play for the BCS Championship even tho they didnt win the Big 12 South Outright.

No way USC catches UT in the BCS poll unless UT loses. And the two teams ahead of UT in the polls other than OU have a head to head meeting to close out the season. OU loses , Texas is in.

Wolf
11-23-2008, 04:16 PM
not sure, Georgia was ranked higher in the BCS and didn't make it to NC game


It is a shame that I good team is going to be left out but I guess that happens all the time...Goodness it would have been a heck of a playoffs with all the Big 12 teams in it.

It is sad that the system is set up by depending on when you lose during the season affects where you stand as far as the bowl games

bah007
11-23-2008, 04:18 PM
not sure, Georgia was ranked higher in the BCS and didn't make it to NC game

It is a shame that I good team is going to be left out but I guess that happens all the time...Goodness it would have been a heck of a playoffs with all the Big 12 teams in it

True. But they got jumped by a team that had just won the conference championship game.

If Tech lost to Mizzou, UT could only get jumped by an idle team. I don't see that happening.

Wolf
11-23-2008, 04:19 PM
True. But they got jumped by a team that had just won the conference championship game.

If Tech lost to Mizzou, UT could only get jumped by an idle team. I don't see that happening.

gotcha , very true