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TEXANRED
11-16-2008, 09:16 PM
Who would you want as our new defensive coordinator?

Maybe Jim Johnson has another gem tucked away ready to blossom.

Hookem Horns
11-16-2008, 09:33 PM
Jim Eddy still hasn't caught on with anyone yet.

Jackie Chiles
11-16-2008, 09:36 PM
Mike Nolan is currently unemployed, I'd be interested to know if he could excel in a 4-3. I think he does both 4-3 and 3-4 but someone else will have to explain that in further detail.

Jim Bates is out there and he had quite a bit of success before his failure in Denver recently.

Frank Bush would be the likely candidate if we promote from within but I would personally be very disappointed just because I would like to see the entire defensive coaching staff be reshuffled.

Thats all I can think of immediately.

Honoring Earl 34
11-16-2008, 09:37 PM
Jim Eddy still hasn't caught on with anyone yet.

Ed Biles

Kaiser Toro
11-16-2008, 09:37 PM
Jerry Gray.

ArlingtonTexan
11-16-2008, 09:39 PM
Who would you want as our new defensive coordinator?

Maybe Jim Johnson has another gem tucked away ready to blossom.

yes.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+Way+We+Hear+It/Audibles/2008/audibles2319.htm

(Eagles defensive coordinator) Jim Johnson has developed a lot of good lieutenants. Teams looking for a defensive coordinator are going to have to take a close look at his position coaches. Sean McDermott has been the secondary coach and linebackers coach. He comes from the same line as (Ravens head coach John) Harbaugh, (and defensive coordinators) Leslie Frazier, Ron Rivera and Steve Spagnuolo. Hes been in the system for 10-some years and has worked his way up the ranks. He played at William & Mary with (Steelers head coach) Mike Tomlin. Hes not going to fly under the radar much longer. Rivera just got promoted (to defensive coordinator in San Diego). Spags and Frazier are in line for top jobs. The Jim Johnson pipeline is hot.

TEXANRED
11-16-2008, 09:39 PM
Jim Eddy still hasn't caught on with anyone yet.

Thats now funny.:foottap:

TEXANRED
11-16-2008, 09:42 PM
yes.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+Way+We+Hear+It/Audibles/2008/audibles2319.htm

I want.

Give me a guy who knows how to play defense and what an attacking defense looks like.

Thats all I want for Christmas.

Wolf
11-16-2008, 09:49 PM
Heck I almost will settle for a fictional character
:joker:
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/pictures/2001/01/30/remember2.jpg


Coach Yoast:All right, now, I don't want them to gain *another yard!* * You blitz...all...night!* If they cross the line of scrimmage, I'm gonna take every last one of you out! You make sure they remember, *forever*, the night they played the TEXANS!

http://www.ghostplace.com/archive/index.php/t-36076.html

One day (I can dream right?)
I really don't know, It is easy to pick this name or that name, but...

The1ApplePie
11-16-2008, 09:50 PM
Heck I almost will settle for a fictional character
:joker:
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/pictures/2001/01/30/remember2.jpg

I really don't know, It is easy to pick this name or that name, but...

If we are going fictional characters, some one needs to get Shane Falco here pronto.

Jackie Chiles
11-16-2008, 09:52 PM
If we are going fictional characters, some one needs to get Shane Falco here pronto.

Think he could tell Sage a thing or two about "quicksand?"

Hookem Horns
11-16-2008, 09:53 PM
Didn't Jim Eddy always look like this guy? ...

http://www.legendsofamerica.com/photos-trivia/BuddyHackett.jpg

TexanSam
11-16-2008, 09:54 PM
Mike Nolan is currently unemployed, I'd be interested to know if he could excel in a 4-3. I think he does both 4-3 and 3-4 but someone else will have to explain that in further detail.

Jim Bates is out there and he had quite a bit of success before his failure in Denver recently.

Frank Bush would be the likely candidate if we promote from within but I would personally be very disappointed just because I would like to see the entire defensive coaching staff be reshuffled.

Thats all I can think of immediately.

I would be interested in Mike Nolan as well. Jim Bates was mentioned as a potential DC here when Kubiak got hired, but Bates wanted to be able to hire his own assistants instead of Kubiak doing it.

Jackie Chiles
11-16-2008, 09:54 PM
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/CoachBios.asp?coach_id=10

Sounds like a plan to me, anything even resembling what they do in Philly and NY would be like advancing from simple addition to rocket science.

valleytexfan
11-16-2008, 09:57 PM
Heck I almost will settle for a fictional character
:joker:
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/pictures/2001/01/30/remember2.jpg


Well, Bill Yoast is a REAL person who was portrayed by Will Patton...

Hookem Horns
11-16-2008, 09:58 PM
Buddy Hackett and the Houston Oilers.

http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/83025809.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19303D83A05122D236947EA0BF817DCF6F8 5A5397277B4DC33E

steelbtexan
11-16-2008, 10:00 PM
If Reid gets fired Jim Johnson may be available.

Mike Nolan

TexanSam
11-16-2008, 10:01 PM
Wade Phillips is probably gone at the end of the season. He's probably worth a look

TEXANRED
11-16-2008, 10:02 PM
If Reid gets fired Jim Johnson may be available.

Mike Nolan

If Reid gets fired we have our new HC.

I can't see him going anywhere for a long, long, time.

TEXANRED
11-16-2008, 10:02 PM
Wade Phillips is probably gone at the end of the season. He's probably worth a look

I would love to have Phillips but he is a 34 guy. I just can't go through another retooling.

Specnatz
11-16-2008, 10:29 PM
Mike Nolan is currently unemployed, I'd be interested to know if he could excel in a 4-3. I think he does both 4-3 and 3-4 but someone else will have to explain that in further detail.

Jim Bates is out there and he had quite a bit of success before his failure in Denver recently.

Frank Bush would be the likely candidate if we promote from within but I would personally be very disappointed just because I would like to see the entire defensive coaching staff be reshuffled.

Thats all I can think of immediately.

I did a write up on this either at FanHouse or Chron.com in a response on one of Texans_Chicks greta blogs. Nolan is one of the rare coaches who has extensive work with 3-4 and 4-3 .. Giants 4-3 and Ravens 3-4 .... Fisrt year with Giants they were using a 3-4 which was LT's last year, then switched to a 4-3 Strahan's second year. With the Ravens his first year they were using a 4-3 and the switched to a 3-4.

He would be one of the guys I would love to look at or someone like Sean McDermott young and has experience at multiple coaching positions under a proven DC.

PapaL
11-16-2008, 10:32 PM
Anybody - PLEASE.

What's Buddy Ryan up to?

I don't care who. I'm not a change for change's sake but WE NEED CHANGE.

Think Obama could fill in till the end of our season?

Corrosion
11-17-2008, 12:51 AM
Anybody - PLEASE.

What's Buddy Ryan up to?

I don't care who. I'm not a change for change's sake but WE NEED CHANGE.

Think Obama could fill in till the end of our season?

He'd try to talk the opposing offense off the field .... I'll take Buddy Ryan tho .... Bounties and all. Hell , a bounty might be just what they need to get Pey-Me-A-Ton off the field on third down .... :pirate:

mussop
11-17-2008, 03:27 AM
I say Marvin Lewis.. No way his is back next year in Cinci. He was a hell of a DC.

Mr. White
11-17-2008, 07:27 AM
They've got a pretty good one on the staff already with Ray Rhodes.

TimeKiller
11-17-2008, 08:08 AM
It's just sad that all of the names in this thread sound better than what we have. Or is it sad that we still have what we have? I don't know, I'm just tired of being sad...

DBCooper
11-17-2008, 08:50 AM
Stephanie

utahmark
11-17-2008, 11:21 AM
They've got a pretty good one on the staff already with Ray Rhodes.

im not sure why no one ever mentions him. i might give him a chance before Bush.

spurstexanstros
11-17-2008, 11:27 AM
Ron Rivera if he is available... i would love to see recreation of Chicago defense that got them to superbowl.

Mike Nolan or guy from the longhorns or that Red skins d-coordinator that was passed up for head coach position..whats his naem I am blanking right now. I think he is locked up for a long time though.

Anyone is better that Smith...

spurstexanstros
11-17-2008, 11:28 AM
I say Marvin Lewis.. No way his is back next year in Cinci. He was a hell of a DC.

Even better...

Ole Miss Texan
11-17-2008, 11:30 AM
I don't really know anything about the Giants coaches over there but really like what their defense has been doing. They use a 4-3, and it seems we're trying to build our team similar to theirs (disruptive DL). Anybody know about their DL or LB coach that may be worth a promotion? Just throwin' stuff out there.

gtexan02
11-17-2008, 11:34 AM
The question we have to ask ourselves is how much power the d-coordinator really has.

Do we have talented players?
Are those talented players being coached well by the position coaches?

If either of those answers are "no" then we won't see any improvement with a new D-coordinator

I'm hoping thats not the case, however, and that by making a change, we'll start to see our Ds true potential come out. Whoever we hire, I want them to be very aggressive. Aggressive Ds are fun to watch and intimidate other teams.

FirstTexansFan
11-17-2008, 11:41 AM
Originally Posted by Mr. White View Post
They've got a pretty good one on the staff already with Ray Rhodes.

im not sure why no one ever mentions him. i might give him a chance before Bush.

I believe he's one of our issues. He has a bend but don't break approach to defense, and imo is probably the reason Richard Smith hasn't been fired yet.

I believe he's advising Kubiak that Smith's approach (in other words his own approach) is the way to go with the players we currently have.

nunusguy
11-17-2008, 11:42 AM
The problem with the defense isn't the DC, it's the personnel.
Who selected the Dline personnel - Kubiak & Smith, so there's your culprits,
so quit being in denial and blaming Richard Smith if you're serious about fixing the problem with the defense.

Ole Miss Texan
11-17-2008, 11:43 AM
The question we have to ask ourselves is how much power the d-coordinator really has.

Do we have talented players?
Are those talented players being coached well by the position coaches?

If either of those answers are "no" then we won't see any improvement with a new D-coordinator

I'm hoping thats not the case, however, and that by making a change, we'll start to see our Ds true potential come out. Whoever we hire, I want them to be very aggressive. Aggressive Ds are fun to watch and intimidate other teams.

Good points. I too want a really aggressive defense. I think we have a lot of talent on the defense, it's just we're so young. Mario, Amobi, Demeco, Diles, Adibi, Bennett, Molden, etc. It seems we've got some good positional coaches like Rhodes and Bush, b/c it's so important to have the right people in place to teach these young guys. I'd like to see us go heavy on defense in the draft this year so I think the time to get a DC is soon, before the draft. Make sure he has some input on what kind of players will fit what he wants to do.

I think a large part of it is that we have a young team that lacks some experience. But I'd like a much more aggressive D and let these guys develop and we'll have a monster defense.

Bulluck53
11-17-2008, 11:44 AM
Would Schwartz be a possibility as Head Coach? Not sure if McNair would drop Kubiak at this point...

I would hate to lose Schwartz to a division rival but he would definately make the defense better, even from the head coach position.

b0ng
11-17-2008, 11:56 AM
They've got a pretty good one on the staff already with Ray Rhodes.

Health Reasons. He's been DC before and then had a heart attack.

I don't want Phillips because he's a 3-4 guy. I can see a position coach wanting to come here more than a defensive coordinator. I think Johnson is going to try for a HC gig if Reid gets fired.

Goldensilence
11-17-2008, 12:13 PM
I've listed out some names but if we keep regressing we might be looking for a new HC.

Guys i'd LOVE to see come over.

Marvin Lewis- He'll be available after this year and while his tenure at HC hasn't been so good in Cinci his defensive work prior is pretty sterling.

Ron Rivera - Currently in SD and helped make the Bears defense dominant. I don't know if it has been injuries since he left but they have slowly faded. Makes me wonder.

Jerry Gray - Currently in Washington. Guy's defense's were always solid and seemed to work well with little.

Mike Nolan - Great resume and has HC experience.

I wouldn't be opposed to looking at a young guy like McDermont but at this point this team NEEDS a guy with a track record. We've got some interesting pieces to work with on defense and I think the entire defensive staff outside Rhodes and Hoke(whom needs to be fired immediately) needs a long evaluation.

Yomaine
11-17-2008, 12:13 PM
We need the meanest guy available. thats not gonna take players taken plays off. I watch Mario and he would be twice as good as he is if he wouldn't take plays off. And he is on his way to being a pro-bowler now!

ChampionTexan
11-17-2008, 12:15 PM
The problem with the defense isn't the DC, it's the personnel.
Who selected the Dline personnel - Kubiak & Smith, so there's your culprits,
so quit being in denial and blaming Richard Smith if you're serious about fixing the problem with the defense.

Actually, of the four starters (which for this purpose includes Okoye), neither Kubiak or Smith had anything to do with T.J., and only Kubiak was here when Weaver was signed. That leaves Mario -who if anything flies in the face of your post, and Okoye - who is a legitimate cause for concern, but a little early to call a bust at this point.

I definitely think Smith should go, and I'm getting more and more apathetic about Kubiak's fate, but we're also at that point where the bad things look horrible, and the good things are completely ignored based on emotion.

spurstexanstros
11-17-2008, 12:32 PM
Actually, of the four starters (which for this purpose includes Okoye), neither Kubiak or Smith had anything to do with T.J., and only Kubiak was here when Weaver was signed. That leaves Mario -who if anything flies in the face of your post, and Okoye - who is a legitimate cause for concern, but a little early to call a bust at this point.

I definitely think Smith should go, and I'm getting more and more apathetic about Kubiak's fate, but we're also at that point where the bad things look horrible, and the good things are completely ignored based on emotion.

What can we call him then..guy who doesnt make tackles? The anti-Carr because he wouldnt know a sack if it was right infront of him. This guy needs a fire lit under his behind.
He has the raw talent but no motor.

Anyways, The Texans need a DC who hates offense, there needs to be animosity between offense and defense. the O-needs to be held accountable and the D needs to be the one to do it. (and vice versa) AKA Ray Lewis getting on the O in baltimore or the great bears defenses who routinly yelled at the O for not scoring or maintaining drives. I am not talking about divided locker room or anything I am talking about each part of the team depending on the other for support and accountability.
That is lacking.

TEXANRED
11-17-2008, 01:37 PM
They've got a pretty good one on the staff already with Ray Rhodes.

No. If they are associated with this defense then they should all go. I will even supply the moving van.

DerekLee1
11-17-2008, 02:09 PM
I say Marvin Lewis.. No way his is back next year in Cinci. He was a hell of a DC.

Ditto. But he ran a 3-4 in Baltimore, no? What's his 4-3 take?

Hervoyel
11-17-2008, 04:12 PM
I keep seeing that the 3-4 guys are a concern for coaching a 4-3 and about fears relating to the personnel turnover that will take place if we bring in a coach whose known for a great 3-4 to run our unit but I don't think that is as big a problem as it appears.

Looking at our defense we've got Mario Williams and we've got DeMeco Ryans and they're going to get on the field in either defense. We've got Dunta Robinson and he's going to get on the field in either defense. Great coaches find a way to use great players and I think we can all agree that these three guys are our only truly great players at the moment.

We're pretty much not impressing anyone with the rest of the pieces right now but lets look at those pieces. Our other starters are

Anthony Weaver
Amobi Okoye
Travis Johnson
Mario Williams

Zach Diles
DeMeco Ryans
Morlon Greenwood

Jaques Reeves
Dunta Robinson

And at Safety we've got "just a bunch of guys who generally seem to suck".

I know, that's not fair to Ferguson and Wilson but hey, the safety spots have been a sore point for this team throughout its existence. Every year we see and hear that we need a safety. Under a 3-4 DC we still probably need a safety so how are we worse off than right now?

Look at that list for a moment and ask yourself how many of those players need to be replaced regardless of whether we stay with a 4-3 or change to a 3-4? Look at our starters (and our depth if you like) and just consider how many of those guys seem to be placeholder type players. Keep that number in your head and then proceed to this next step.

Now look at the starters and ask yourself which of these guys could play in a 3-4 at an even moderately decent level. There are quite a few people there who could be used in a 3-4

I think you could run the entire secondary out there as-is and get better results with a good 3-4 coach than you do with our lousy 4-3 coaching whatever in the hell it is that he's doing.

On the linebackers I think you're going to have to go get one or two but you could play Diles and Ryans in a 3-4. You were going to need another linebacker anyway since Morlon Greenwood is about at the end of his magic ride on the Casserly money-go-round. So you need a couple of linebackers now. It's not like you can't find one in the draft and throw another guy in the remaining spot as a placeholder for a year.

On the line you have TJ's fat worthless sack-of-crap ass taking up space and he was originally drafted to play NT in a 3-4. You go draft an old cheeseburger eater to hold the point of attack (those guys seem to shake loose around the league every single year) because you can't count on TJ and you try every guy we have on our roster at DE until you find one who can play even if it's for a year or so only.

I think the big switch to 3-4 personnel isn't the horror story we're making it out to be. I'm all for bringing in a good DC regardless of what he prefers to run. He'll get more out of the players we have than Smith and find the kinds of guys he needs in the same year or three that we've seen Kubiak remake the offense. Arguably he's got a lot more to work with than Kubiak had in rebuilding the offense so it should go quicker than it took Gary to rework that side of the ball.

The most important thing here is that we need to find a good DC and leave the bad one on the curb. It's time.

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Edit: And I'd wait until the end of the season to go hunting a DC and see who gets fired. Lewis is great, Phillips might want to come back to Houston for some reason. There will be moves that can be made at the end of the year. Right now I am going on record as saying "Let the poor S.O.B. (Smith) "coach" out the string. Unless the Texans just know, beyond a shadow of a doubt that they have their next DC on staff they should wait to go hunting a new one until after the year is over.

DBCooper
11-17-2008, 04:27 PM
I don't really know anything about the Giants coaches over there but really like what their defense has been doing. They use a 4-3, and it seems we're trying to build our team similar to theirs (disruptive DL). Anybody know about their DL or LB coach that may be worth a promotion? Just throwin' stuff out there.

This thought actually crossed my mind a couple of weeks ago.

Drew_Smoke
11-17-2008, 04:35 PM
Ray Rhodes is padding his pension and has no interest in moving up.

Buddy! Buddy! Buddy! Whoever has a "Hey Buddy Ryan...We Miss You" sign in the bull pen gets a free beer from Roc.

I would like to see ol Wade come in and pad his pension some too.

Marvin Lewis would be fun. F/A's would follow him too.

Nolan may like the change of going to the AFC and playing some smash mouth.

If Mike Singletary is not retained for some reason we need to be on that too.

DerekLee1
11-17-2008, 07:29 PM
What's Glanville up to? I quite liked the House of Pain defense.

AnthonyE
11-17-2008, 09:23 PM
What's Glanville up to? I quite liked the House of Pain defense.

He's the head coach for Portland State University.

bigfan77801
11-17-2008, 10:25 PM
If we are going fictional characters, some one needs to get Shane Falco here pronto.

I agree, check the siggy.:tiphat:

gtexan02
11-18-2008, 12:38 PM
Anyone from the NY Giants or Titans.

A sample coaching lineup

HC - Steve Spangulo - (Currently DC Giants)
Assistant HC/DL - Jim Washburn (Currently DL Titans)
Assistant HC/OL - Mike Munchak (Currently OL Titans)
OC - Jared Ingram - (Currently RB coach Giants)
DC - Mike Wuafle - (Currently DL coach Giants)

I really like the Defense that the Titans and Giants put out every week---especially the Giants. Its what we want to do, but can't succeed at doing

texanhead08
11-18-2008, 12:59 PM
Ditto. But he ran a 3-4 in Baltimore, no? What's his 4-3 take?


No, the year they won the Super Bowl they were a 4-3 team. Sam Adams and Sarigosa were the DT'S. Ray Lewis and Sharper were 2 of the LB'S.

Jackie Chiles
11-18-2008, 01:11 PM
No, the year they won the Super Bowl they were a 4-3 team. Sam Adams and Sarigosa were the DT'S. Ray Lewis and Sharper were 2 of the LB'S.

Was Nolan the DC that year though or was it Marvin Lewis? Del Rio was on that staff as well wasn't he? And even after all those guys leave they have talented coaches on that side of the ball. Very impressive.

Hookem Horns
11-18-2008, 02:05 PM
Anyone from the NY Giants or Titans.

A sample coaching lineup

HC - Steve Spangulo - (Currently DC Giants)
Assistant HC/DL - Jim Washburn (Currently DL Titans)
Assistant HC/OL - Mike Munchak (Currently OL Titans)
OC - Jared Ingram - (Currently RB coach Giants)
DC - Mike Wuafle - (Currently DL coach Giants)

I really like the Defense that the Titans and Giants put out every week---especially the Giants. Its what we want to do, but can't succeed at doing

Spangulo? ... lol. You mean Steve Spagnuolo? If this guy has to go anywhere I hope it is to the Texans however I am fine with him staying right where he is.

BigWig
11-18-2008, 04:50 PM
I liked the Will Muschamp from UT idea, but they just announced he will take over for mack Brown when he steps down.

TexansSeminole
11-18-2008, 05:04 PM
I keep seeing that the 3-4 guys are a concern for coaching a 4-3 and about fears relating to the personnel turnover that will take place if we bring in a coach whose known for a great 3-4 to run our unit but I don't think that is as big a problem as it appears.

I tend to agree with this. We just simply don't have the players to worry about switching schemes. We just need to find an good coach with an effective scheme and then build the defense.

I like Kevin Steele (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Steele) DC from Alabama.

Whatever happens we are going to have to draft almost all defense. We really need to add some talent to this defense it's been killing us the last 3 years.

gary
11-18-2008, 05:10 PM
How about whoever the DC is for the Giants or Ravens or even those darn Titans?

Corrosion
11-18-2008, 07:43 PM
I tend to agree with this. We just simply don't have the players to worry about switching schemes. We just need to find an good coach with an effective scheme and then build the defense.

I like Kevin Steele (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Steele) DC from Alabama.

Whatever happens we are going to have to draft almost all defense. We really need to add some talent to this defense it's been killing us the last 3 years.

As long as they fix one of the two problem spots on the OL (C & RG) I'll be fine with the rest of the draft being defensive players .... hell I'll probably be doing cartwheels ....


Here's my wish list for the D ....

Top of that list is One NASTY DT who can move the pocket and demand two blockers , dont care if its done via draft or FA , just find me that guy.(The mean streak is NON-NEGOTIABLE)

Yep , I put a player above a coordinator , players have to perform .... Coordinators cant defend without some talent.

A DC who knows how to put pressure on the offense rather than allow the offense to dictate his actions .... a guy who isnt afraid to fail with the blitz .... a guy who can disguise his defense , where the pressure is coming from , as well as disguise the coverages. He's also got to be able to make Demeco Ryans mad at the world .... I want to see that guy lay some pain. No more nice guy defense. I dont want to see the Texans helping opponents up after tackles either .... hell push them back down , step on their toes , kick them in the groin , throw dirt in their faces .... old school mean defense .

One ... preferably two OLB's who can play both the run and pass effectively .... No more Jay Foreman clones please. I've seen LB's make tackles 9 yards downfield far too much in the last few seasons.

Another good Corner who can play press coverage .... with enough snap to turn his head around and locate the damn ball .... and who can react quickly to make plays on the ball from zone coverages , has to be a very good tackler , again non negotiable.


Lastly I want a FS who takes good angles and plays the run and pass equally well , this guy has to be a total asshole in the secondary .... absolutely knock the snot out of any reciever who dares cross the middle also has to have a nose for the ball .... a turnover machine comparable to Rosencoptor cept for in a productive fashion for the Texans rather than the opponent.


Cut the dead weight in Weaver and Greenwood .... Let Bulman start , he's earned an opportunity.

The new DC also has the task of tossing out Hoke and the rest of the defensive assistants .... over the fence literally .... throw them out on their collective asses. They have sucked long enough.

DiehardChris
11-18-2008, 09:04 PM
I like Jim Washburn, DL coach for the Titans. That guy is an ASS KICKER, but I'm sure Bud would do anything and everything from losing him to the Texans.

Then again - he might be an ass kicker, but he's got great personnel right now.

All this talk about the DCs from Baltimore, NYG, Tennessee, etc - that's not going to happen. Why would ANY of those guys leave those jobs to take the same jobs with a losing team with bad personnel? If they go anywhere, they're going to move up the ladder - not to the same rung on a shittier ladder.

Nolan... eh, it may seem superficial, but the fact that this guy is concerned with what he wears on the sideline to the point that he FOUGHT to be able to wear a suit - that bothers me. That tells me he has ego issues and wouldn't do well not being the main guy.

gary
11-18-2008, 09:12 PM
I'd like to get one of them but I never said that we were going to though.

Corrosion
11-18-2008, 09:29 PM
I like Jim Washburn, DL coach for the Titans. That guy is an ASS KICKER, but I'm sure Bud would do anything and everything from losing him to the Texans.

Then again - he might be an ass kicker, but he's got great personnel right now.

All this talk about the DCs from Baltimore, NYG, Tennessee, etc - that's not going to happen. Why would ANY of those guys leave those jobs to take the same jobs with a losing team with bad personnel? If they go anywhere, they're going to move up the ladder - not to the same rung on a shittier ladder.

Nolan... eh, it may seem superficial, but the fact that this guy is concerned with what he wears on the sideline to the point that he FOUGHT to be able to wear a suit - that bothers me. That tells me he has ego issues and wouldn't do well not being the main guy.



To expand upon the bold part .... If the in question are under NFL contract they cant leave unless they are getting a promotion.
You can hire away a coach from another team by giving him a promotion but you cant hire them away in a lateral move.

DiehardChris
11-18-2008, 09:32 PM
To expand upon the bold part .... If the in question are under NFL contract they cant leave unless they are getting a promotion.
You can hire away a coach from another team by giving him a promotion but you cant hire them away in a lateral move.

Do you know if the "assistant head coach" tag that so many coordinators get slapped on is a way of getting around that rule? I would assume the NFL is smart enough to put verbiage in the rules that keeps teams from getting around that rule by using that fake title... but I don't know.

Corrosion
11-18-2008, 09:37 PM
Do you know if the "assistant head coach" tag that so many coordinators get slapped on is a way of getting around that rule? I would assume the NFL is smart enough to put verbiage in the rules that keeps teams from getting around that rule by using that fake title... but I don't know.

I dont have the answer to that one .... Good question.

DBCooper
11-18-2008, 09:50 PM
Then again - he might be an ass kicker, but he's got great personnel right now.



Good coaches seemed to be able to find great players. (see Jeff Fisher)

edo783
11-18-2008, 09:58 PM
Do you know if the "assistant head coach" tag that so many coordinators get slapped on is a way of getting around that rule? I would assume the NFL is smart enough to put verbiage in the rules that keeps teams from getting around that rule by using that fake title... but I don't know.

The short answer is yes, it is a means of getting around the rule.

Big Lou
11-19-2008, 11:34 PM
Dick Cheney

He shot a friend in the face, imagine what he would want to do to opposing QB's as a Defensive Coordinator!!!!

The1ApplePie
11-19-2008, 11:42 PM
I'll take whomever the understudy of Jim Johnson is right now

Romeo Crennel (after he gets canned) would be nice

steelbtexan
11-20-2008, 10:35 AM
I'll take whomever the understudy of Jim Johnson is right now

Romeo Crennel (after he gets canned) would be nice

I could go along with this.

I hope we get a strong DC who has a vision of what he wants his defense to look like & what kind of players he needs to make his defense work.

I hope Smithiak- McNair give our new DC the resources he needs to aquire these players.

Otherwise it will be more of the same. Giving up 30 pts per game.