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drewmar74
11-13-2008, 01:52 PM
Read this at the Chronic. This season is done (in terms of playoff hopes) so I'm glad to see them start to get the young guys in. Might as well see what we have.

Texans coach Gary Kubiak said Wednesday he plans to play rookie cornerback Antwaun Molden soon.

“I think you’re going to see him start to get some reps,” Kubiak said of Molden. “Whether it’s this week , I don’t know yet. It’s time for guys like him and (safety Dominique) Barber to get in the mix.”

Molden and Barber have played well on special teams.

“I’d think there comes a point where you see him (Molden) out there defensively,” Kubiak said. “He’s a small-school (Eastern Kentucky) kid trying to make his way through pro football.

“He’s made progress, but I haven’t felt like he’s been ready to play on that island. We can also protect him a little with what we do.”

Injury update

Outside linebacker Morlon Greenwood (fibula) and defensive tackle Amobi Okoye (ankle) did not participate in any part of Wednesday’s practice.

Receiver André Davis (finger) was limited.

If Greenwood can’t play against the Colts on Sunday, he’ll be replaced by rookie Xavier Adibi or veteran Chaun Thompson.

“This football team can make you play a lot of nickel, too, so if he (Greenwood) is down, Xavier is going to play a bunch,” coach Gary Kubiak said.

Playing against quarter-back Peyton Manning and his receivers is going to be a baptism by fire for Adibi, a lot tougher than facing the Ravens’ passing game.

“It’s going to be exciting for me, somebody that I’ve been watching ever since I’ve been in high school,” Adibi said. “It’s just my chance to showcase what I can do. I’m still rusty, but I’ve been studying my playbook, so I’ve got the plays down. It’s just a lot of technique stuff that I’ve got to get down.”

Second time around

There’s no rest for the rookie. Left tackle Duane Brown gets Colts defensive end Dwight Freeney after facing Ravens outside linebacker Terrell Suggs and Vikings defensive end Jared Allen in the last two weeks.

At least Brown has played against Freeney this season.

“This will probably be the toughest game of the season, considering the environment and his pass-rushing ability,” Brown said.

Brown played well against Freeney, who had one sack, in the Colts’ 31-27 victory Oct. 5.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/6109484.html

nunusguy
11-13-2008, 02:14 PM
When you're 3-6 your team is in the middle of a lost season with no playoff
chances remaing but only one practicle benefit to be gained - getting the rooks and other inexperienced players some real season reps - what's best for the teams long-term is bound to clash with a struggling coachs need to play vets and eck out wins to save his job.

Wolf
11-13-2008, 02:17 PM
“He’s made progress, but I haven’t felt like he’s been ready to play on that island. We can also protect him a little with what we do.”


from the original post

...I am wondering "a little with what we do" means .

drewmar74
11-13-2008, 02:20 PM
When you're 3-6 your team is in the middle of a lost season with no playoff
chances remaing but only one practicle benefit to be gained - getting the rooks and other inexperienced players some real season reps - what's best for the teams long-term is bound to clash with a struggling coachs need to play vets and eck out wins to save his job.

Could the rookies really play any worse than the vets at this point? Was there that much of a dropoff with Adibi in there?

gtexan02
11-13-2008, 02:20 PM
probably means using him to cover inside or short zones or giving him safety help

SheTexan
11-13-2008, 02:31 PM
Personally, I don't give a damn WHO they play, since we seem to be the training ground for players as well as coaches, as long as they BEAT THE FRIGGIN TITANS!! THis year is history anyway, so is that to much to ask??!! SURE, beating the Jags on MNF would be nice, but, I could take a 100-0 loss to them if we could only take the Titans down on Dec 14th!!!!! I could sit back and grin, and MAYBE say "this year was worth it all anyway!!!"

Of course, it's gonna take our HC getting his sheeeet together and NOT allowing himself to be OUT COACHED again!!!

eriadoc
11-13-2008, 03:14 PM
Outside linebacker Morlon Greenwood (fibula)

OK, what sort of injury, aside from a fracture, would they list as "fibula"? There's not much else you can do to the fibula. If it was dislocated from the knee of ankle, they'd list it as knee or ankle. Since when do they get so precise with the injury site without likewise being specific about the injury? I mean, if they listed "ACL", wouldn't we all know it's torn?

gtexan02
11-13-2008, 03:51 PM
Fibula is not weight bearing, so tons of people can get hairline fractures in the fibula and not even notice it.

Maybe Greenwood has a very tiny injury to the fibula, but its not necessarily IR worthy?

Mr teX
11-13-2008, 04:23 PM
translation: I realize what i was trying to do wasn't working so I've got to do something to shake things up b/c i feel the seat getting a little warmer......

admitting you have a problem is the 1st step to recovery...

Polo
11-13-2008, 04:48 PM
Kubiak's comments are starting to annoy me...

Hervoyel
11-13-2008, 09:11 PM
If Moron Greenwood never sets foot on the field again in a Texans uniform it will be too soon. Sitting him will be addition through subtraction.

mexican_texan
11-13-2008, 09:18 PM
translation: I realize what i was trying to do wasn't working so I've got to do something to shake things up b/c i feel the seat getting a little warmer......

admitting you have a problem is the 1st step to recovery...
Or rather, screw Dick Smith, Kubiak's playing the players he wants to play.

False Start
11-14-2008, 01:07 AM
Hell, with the way this team has been playing lately, it can't hurt to throw in the rooks. You never know what may happen.

mussop
11-14-2008, 03:38 AM
“We can also protect him a little with what we do.” Why cant they do that for Reeves and Faggins?????

TimeKiller
11-14-2008, 08:37 AM
The thing bothering me with this is I get the feeling we wouldn't be seeing our last round of draft picks if not for a couple of injuries. That's no way to progress. Identify bad: Morlon Greenwood. Identify possible solution: Xavier Adibi. Implement change. It's okay if you judge Adibi based on his performance too, I just doubt that would happen because Greenwood made it this far. Psyched for the new guys though, can't wait to see them play. I just wish it was by choice instead of by need because now we need them to play against one of (if not the) best QB of this generation.

CloakNNNdagger
11-14-2008, 09:43 AM
OK, what sort of injury, aside from a fracture, would they list as "fibula"? There's not much else you can do to the fibula. If it was dislocated from the knee of ankle, they'd list it as knee or ankle. Since when do they get so precise with the injury site without likewise being specific about the injury? I mean, if they listed "ACL", wouldn't we all know it's torn?

I've not seen any report that classifies Greenwood's injury as anything but an "ankle strain." It could be referring to the ligaments affecting the connection between the ankle bones and fibula. If he does indeed have a true fibula stress fracture, it requires 3-8 weeks of rest. The lower on the fibula, the longer the rest required. If the the diagnosis is delayed, or if the player tries to play through the injury, further trauma and longer recovery period is likely. Also continued play could result in nonunion of the fracture with chronic consequences.

Even though Greenwood's initial x-rays were negative for fracture, stress fractures of the fibula may not show up on x-ray for 8 weeks.

BigBull17
11-14-2008, 12:19 PM
Could the rookies really play any worse than the vets at this point? Was there that much of a dropoff with Adibi in there?

It also seems that Adibi would be a better match up. He has a little more foot speed, and they arent as likly to be physical upfront, like Minnisota and Baltimore. Moulden, I can kind of understand. A rookie DB against Manning, thats a rough match up. SS should be the only one really tweeked, since Wilson has been on the Pats teams that gave Manning fits. Harrison and Barber can split reps with Fergison. I also think Saalam should start, with Brown playing every 3rd series. He did ok last time, but this is in Indy.

Porky
11-14-2008, 02:14 PM
I think this kid needs to play. He needs to play with the bigger and older kids. That kid Demps is out of luck. And that Reeves kid needs a little more grooming. I just hope all these kids work out. :voodoo:

False Start
11-14-2008, 02:39 PM
I think this kid needs to play. He needs to play with the bigger and older kids. That kid Demps is out of luck. And that Reeves kid needs a little more grooming. I just hope all these kids work out. :voodoo:

Because they are some darn good football players, and they are bustin' their tail on every play. :sleep: :cool:

b0ng
11-14-2008, 02:59 PM
So let me get this straight:

We're going to wait until after we play against "super backup" Gus Ferrotte and rookie Lsensation" Joe Flacco to play our rookie corner? Specifically, we're going to wait until we play against Peyton freakin Manning in his house?

Rock on jerkos

False Start
11-14-2008, 03:03 PM
So let me get this straight:

We're going to wait until after we play against "super backup" Gus Ferrotte and rookie Lsensation" Joe Flacco to play our rookie corner? Specifically, we're going to wait until we play against Peyton freakin Manning in his house?

Rock on jerkos

I never thought about it like that. That's ........ :crazy:

Runner
11-14-2008, 03:04 PM
So let me get this straight:

We're going to wait until after we play against "super backup" Gus Ferrotte and rookie Lsensation" Joe Flacco to play our rookie corner? Specifically, we're going to wait until we play against Peyton freakin Manning in his house?

Rock on jerkos

You have to look at the big picture. They barely used Slaton last week and saved him for this game. He should be well rested, so the defense shouldn't be on the field much.

The Texans brain trust are deep thinkers, and a win at Indy would be a big enough positive by itself to counter a 6-10 season.

:sarcasm:

Honoring Earl 34
11-14-2008, 03:18 PM
You have to look at the big picture. They barely used Slaton last week and saved him for this game. He should be well rested, so the defense shouldn't be on the field much.

The Texans brain trust are deep thinkers, and a win at Indy would be a big enough positive by itself to counter a 6-10 season.

:sarcasm:

To be more efficent , rest them all and beat the Titans .

SheTexan
11-14-2008, 04:10 PM
To be more efficent , rest them all and beat the Titans .


THANK YOU!!! My thoughts exactly!!

badboy
11-14-2008, 04:55 PM
Going to be nice if Bennett can hold one side and Dunte and Moulden vie for the other. I see Reeves as a nickle or maybe just 2 cents.

False Start
11-14-2008, 08:34 PM
I see Reeves as a nickle or maybe just 2 cents.

Reeves should play "left-out."

Norg
11-14-2008, 11:22 PM
I hope we are the first to beat the Titans

Giant Tiger
11-15-2008, 07:34 PM
I think Molden should get some playing time by now. Just wondering, when exactly did Eric Winston get to play his rookie year? Wasn't he picked ahead of Steve Slaton? Slaton's playing well, so why not Molden? Sure hope it's not to justify signing Reeves :thinking:

CloakNNNdagger
11-15-2008, 08:06 PM
I think Molden should get some playing time by now. Just wondering, when exactly did Eric Winston get to play his rookie year? Wasn't he picked ahead of Steve Slaton? Slaton's playing well, so why not Molden? Sure hope it's not to justify signing Reeves :thinking:

Winston played every game last year including preseason. Playing on the island is the most difficult aspect of Molden's position. When you need a "babysitter" to watch your butt all the time, it compromises the game plan. Kubiak evidently has thought that we could not afford that "experiment"........until injuries have forced the issue. As bad as our coverage has been, it's difficult to believe at this point that Molden can't at least play as poorly as his predecessor........hopefully better.

mexican_texan
11-15-2008, 08:15 PM
Winston played every game last year including preseason. Playing on the island is the most difficult aspect of Molden's position. When you need a "babysitter" to watch your butt all the time, it compromises the game plan. Kubiak evidently has thought that we could not afford that "experiment"........until injuries have forced the issue. As bad as our coverage has been, it's difficult to believe at this point that Molden can't at least play as poorly as his predecessor........hopefully better.
He was drafted prior to last season though. I don't recall him starting early his rookie year. Or at all.

Runner
11-15-2008, 08:18 PM
He was drafted prior to last season though. I don't recall him starting early his rookie year. Or at all.

He started in his rookie year only after there were so many injuries Kubiak didn't have much choice, IIRC.

Texan JBZ
11-15-2008, 08:27 PM
Is it just me, or do the Texans bring some of their younger players along at an Astros pace? (See Hunter Pence)

Wolf6151
11-15-2008, 08:52 PM
Is it just me, or do the Texans bring some of their younger players along at an Astros pace? (See Hunter Pence)

I was thinking the same thing.

Runner
11-15-2008, 08:57 PM
Is it just me, or do the Texans bring some of their younger players along at an Astros pace? (See Hunter Pence)

Kubes seems to like rookies at left tackle.

Specnatz
11-15-2008, 09:29 PM
Is it just me, or do the Texans bring some of their younger players along at an Astros pace? (See Hunter Pence)

Kubes seems to like rookies at left tackle.

Offense vs Defense

Brown and Slaton are seeing action. Bulman and Cochran have shown they should be on the field and Weaver should not but the defensive coaches continue to do the opposite.

Faggins should not be on the field but he sees a lot of action, while Bennett and Molden languish on the bench.

TexanSam
11-16-2008, 04:16 PM
Did Molden play? I don't remember seeing him on the field

Texan JBZ
11-16-2008, 04:22 PM
Did Molden play? I don't remember seeing him on the field

No. You did see the two Petey's though :brickwall:

ATXtexanfan
11-16-2008, 05:23 PM
Did Molden play? I don't remember seeing him on the field

what a shame. could he have done worse?

Wolf
11-16-2008, 11:03 PM
I didn't get to see the game (working ) reading the posts on this site
but hmmm another Kubiak smoke screen I guess