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Errant Hothy
11-10-2008, 06:37 PM
Like all Red Raiders I have an unhealthy love of Mike Leach, and not only because of the job he does coaching my beloved Red Raiders.

Why you may ask. Just watch the clips (and join me in praying that Leach stays in Lubbock...please?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSPcMXWJjUg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxBsXzvENpo

DiehardChris
11-10-2008, 07:27 PM
Better love him now - 'cuz you're gonna hate him next year wherever he ends up.

The guy is weird and different. Just for that - I do love him, even as a Longhorn fan.

Errant Hothy
11-10-2008, 07:31 PM
Better love him now - 'cuz you're gonna hate him next year wherever he ends up.

The guy is weird and different. Just for that - I do love him, even as a Longhorn fan.

I have that very same thought. The amount of money that either Tennesse or Clemson could throw at him is daunting.

DiehardChris
11-10-2008, 07:36 PM
Tech should give him a raise NOW.

Will you be mad at him if he leaves? Say Tech offers him a big raise, but he turns it down. How will you feel about that?

Errant Hothy
11-10-2008, 07:46 PM
Tech should give him a raise NOW.

Will you be mad at him if he leaves? Say Tech offers him a big raise, but he turns it down. How will you feel about that?

I won't be mad if he leaves, as long as he doesn't act like Saban or Coach Fran of Rodriquiz (WVU). I know that Tech is not on the same level as a Clemson or Tennesse, although I don't think of either of those as top-flight coaching gigs. Rumor has it that Butch Davis is being considered for the Vols job. My silver lining is that I don't think alot of programs in the SEC think that highly of Leach or his offense.

I hope that Tech is already trying to negoiate a contract extension with Leach, as well as trying to secure more financing for the football program.

My heart hopes he stays, my brain says he's gone. (although I felt exactly this way last year)

DiehardChris
11-10-2008, 07:58 PM
Here's the thing Tech has going for them as far as keeping Leach:

1 - Again, he's a strange guy. I could definitely see him being the type that would rather be the big fish in a small dust bowl - assuming the money is at least close.

2 - If Tech goes on to win the title, or even lose in the title game - I think they have a LEGIT shot at replacing Texas A&M as the #2 most-favored school in Texas for the homegrown Texas high school talent.

I'm not as up on the college game as I am the pro game - so maybe one of the more knowledgable guys could enlighten me... how close is it as far as recruiting for the Texas schools once you get past UT? Is the #2 spot even remotely contested at this point?

Errant Hothy
11-10-2008, 08:03 PM
Here's the thing Tech has going for them as far as keeping Leach:

1 - Again, he's a strange guy. I could definitely see him being the type that would rather be the big fish in a small dust bowl - assuming the money is at least close.

2 - If Tech goes on to win the title, or even lose in the title game - I think they have a LEGIT shot at replacing Texas A&M as the #2 most-favored school in Texas for the homegrown Texas high school talent.

I'm not as up on the college game as I am the pro game - so maybe one of the more knowledgable guys could enlighten me... how close is it as far as recruiting for the Texas schools once you get past UT? Is the #2 spot even remotely contested at this point?

I'm not up on recruiting that much, but one owuld think that QBs and WRs would be tripping over themselves to get to Lubbock. Tech does decently in getting talent out of Oklahoma as well.

Carbtree is a good example, UT wanted him to play DB; Tech and Leach saw him as a WR...and the rest as they say.

Other things I think help Tech in keeping Leach. He's from Cody, Wy; so I think he relates to Lubbock and west Texas fairly well. Also he and the school fit so well in terms of personality, and there have been and hopefully will continue to be improvements made to the facilities on campus. Jones looks a thousand times better then it did when I was there.

DiehardChris
11-10-2008, 08:24 PM
Yeah, the 'horns blew it with Crabtree, no doubt.

I really do like Mike Leach. Did you hear his interview on Jim Rome's show a few weeks ago? Classic.

Errant Hothy
11-10-2008, 08:25 PM
Another factor in the Leach at a bigtime program discussion.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/ncaa/11/10/leach.texastech.ap/index.html

His quirky ways -- and now his unbeaten season -- have endeared him and his team to a loyal following in West Texas.

But Leach's wall-in approach to player availability to media is about as restrictive as any in the country and might not fly at bigger programs. Even standout players can be insulated from reporters for weeks at a time.

Leach claims the policy minimizes distractions and players stay better focused. He picks players he thinks can handle the media exposure.

"We're tighter than some places and we're more generous than some places," Leach said last week. "Then we have to make decisions and so that's what we do. We're diligent about calling media back the best we can and other places don't do that."

How, though, would his media policy play in, say, Knoxville, a bigtime Southeastern Conference program where Tennessee fans are accustomed to hearing from players regularly?

"That'd be very interesting," said quarterback Graham Harrell, a contender for the Heisman Trophy along with favorite receiver Michael Crabtree. "He'd keep his players limited in their availability. I think he feels that winning football games is going to make you a lot more popular than having his players" available for interviews. "I feel that's his philosophy ... and that's what he's going to stick with."

From the same:
Leach has two years remaining on a five-year contract and is making $1.75 million this season.

His boss, athletic director Gerald Myers, declined to comment Monday about Leach's contract other than to say discussions about an extension will wait until after the season.

If Texas Tech plays its way into the national championship game those discussions would be in January

Most coaches don't go below four or five years remaining on their contracts before they get an extension.

Next season Leach will receive $1.85 million with a $800,000 bonus if he finishes the 2009 season; the contract's final year ups his pay to $2.15 million with a $200,000 bonus if he completes the 2010 season.

If he stays at Texas Tech, that is.

Leach's name has surfaced for openings in recent years at places like Arkansas and UCLA but he stayed put. Now, officials at Tennessee and Washington could come calling Leach's name.

Errant Hothy
11-10-2008, 08:27 PM
Yeah, the 'horns blew it with Crabtree, no doubt.

I really do like Mike Leach. Did you hear his interview on Jim Rome's show a few weeks ago? Classic.

No Rome here in DFW. A friend of mine managed to record Rome talking about Leach giving out the dating advice, which is classic.

DiehardChris
11-10-2008, 08:35 PM
From the Rome website (maybe it's outdated?)

DALLAS KHFX-AM 1460

The dating advice thing was hilarious... it really endeared me to him, even though I already knew he was kind of weird.

It would be interesting to see how Leach would operate in a different place like Knoxville. My god, they are INSANE about the Vols in Tennessee. Next to the amount of Longhorn stickers I see in Austin and Texas - I've never seen more stickers and automobile garb for a football team than I see when I drive through Tennessee. I drive the length of Tennessee at least once a year, and from start to finish - it's like every third car has a Vols sticker or flag. Leach would certainly have to adjust a bit if he went there since they have kind of a different deal with the media there.

Errant Hothy
11-10-2008, 08:38 PM
From the Rome website (maybe it's outdated?)

DALLAS KHFX-AM 1460

The dating advice thing was hilarious... it really endeared me to him, even though I already knew he was kind of weird.

It would be interesting to see how Leach would operate in a different place like Knoxville. My god, they are INSANE about the Vols in Tennessee. Next to the amount of Longhorn stickers I see in Austin and Texas - I've never seen more stickers and automobile garb for a football team than I see when I drive through Tennessee. I drive the length of Tennessee at least once a year, and from start to finish - it's like every third car has a Vols sticker or flag. Leach would certainly have to adjust a bit if he went there since they have kind of a different deal with the media there.

1460? That's a no one for me. I'll have to try that, thanks.

At this point (with is career and his "value"), I don't think Leach is looking at having to adjust at all. No mater where he goes.

Corrosion
11-10-2008, 08:46 PM
I hope Leach stays in Lubbock .... its good for the Big 12 that TT has a healthy program .... I fear that if he leaves TT will end up like A&M the past couple seasons.

bah007
11-10-2008, 11:39 PM
Here's the thing Tech has going for them as far as keeping Leach:

1 - Again, he's a strange guy. I could definitely see him being the type that would rather be the big fish in a small dust bowl - assuming the money is at least close.

2 - If Tech goes on to win the title, or even lose in the title game - I think they have a LEGIT shot at replacing Texas A&M as the #2 most-favored school in Texas for the homegrown Texas high school talent.

I'm not as up on the college game as I am the pro game - so maybe one of the more knowledgable guys could enlighten me... how close is it as far as recruiting for the Texas schools once you get past UT? Is the #2 spot even remotely contested at this point?

I've been following recruiting heavily for at least the past five years so I'll take a shot at it.

I use a scale up to 6 stars.
6 star - Perennial top 10 in recruiting
5 star - Solid top 25
4 star - Between 26-50
3 star - Between 50-75
2 star - Between 76-100
1 star - constantly in the cellar


Texas - 6 (they are usually between 5-10)
Texas A&M - 5 (usually 20-25)
Texas Tech - 4 (usually 30-40)
Baylor - 3
TCU - 3
Houston - 2
SMU - 2
UTEP - 2
Rice - 2
North Texas - 1


Tech is recruiting well this season but they are typically behind both UT & A&M.

Lucky for everyone else, A&M can't seem to do anything with the talent they bring in.

Tech is also sort of like Kansas in that instead of going after top players they go after lesser known recruits who fit their system the best.

Errant Hothy
12-03-2008, 12:40 PM
Leach meet with Washington yesterday, about the soon to be vacant HC spot for the Huskies.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3741224

I had hoped that with the Tennesse and Clemson gigs being filled Leach would not be tempted by any other of the available jobs. We shall see.

HOU-TEX
12-03-2008, 12:43 PM
Geez, I sure hope he stays at Tech. That guy's awesome! Funny as hell too.

DiehardChris
12-03-2008, 12:46 PM
Well, clearly he's interested in leaving if he's taking interviews. That sucks. I'd really like to see him stay.

gg no re
12-03-2008, 12:51 PM
Shame if Leach leaves TT, but if that is the case, as long as Art Briles' secret plan to upgrade to TT coach fails horribly, I'm ok with that.

bah007
12-03-2008, 12:55 PM
Well, clearly he's interested in leaving if he's taking interviews. That sucks. I'd really like to see him stay.

Not necessarily.

He might be doing interviews just so he can get Tech to offer him more money.

Errant Hothy
12-03-2008, 12:57 PM
Not necessarily.

He might be doing interviews just so he can get Tech to offer him more money.

That's my hope, as I don't think Washington is an upgrade over Tech (facilites, availabilty of recruits, fan base, etc)

HOU-TEX
12-03-2008, 01:05 PM
That's my hope, as I don't think Washington is an upgrade over Tech (facilites, availabilty of recruits, fan base, etc)

Agreed! Have you ever been there, Hoth? It's awesome! It's in the boonies, but it's awesome.

DiehardChris
12-03-2008, 01:07 PM
That's my hope, as I don't think Washington is an upgrade over Tech (facilites, availabilty of recruits, fan base, etc)

It's debatable that the program is an upgrade - but the city sure as hell is. Seattle (it is in Seattle, right?) is probably my favorite US city aside from Austin and Houston. It's a jewel.

I was just coming back here to say "hopefully this is more of a ploy to get TT to pay more money," but you guys are already on it.

If he's about winning, he'll stay at TT. He'll never have to worry about being left out because of a week schedule, and there will be plenty of national exposure.

Stay in Lubbock, Mike! I'm glad that you've replaced A&M as the 'horns most capable in-state rival! Stick around!

bah007
12-03-2008, 01:10 PM
Don't get too cocky about UW being in the gutter right now though Tech fans.

They have a lot of history (4 national titles, 16th in all time victories) and a big time coaching hire could get them back in the mix in west coast recruiting.

Tech is an up and coming program, but Washington is not a "down-grade".

Leach could be doing this to get more money from Tech, but there is also the real possibility that he goes to Washington.

Errant Hothy
12-03-2008, 01:18 PM
Agreed! Have you ever been there, Hoth? It's awesome! It's in the boonies, but it's awesome.

Tech, ie Lubbock? Then the answer is yes, I went to school there. IF you mean UW, ie Seattle, then no.

I have not been back to Lubbock since the late 90's, but from what I've heard the improvements to the football facilities are fairly impressive.

Errant Hothy
12-03-2008, 01:21 PM
It's debatable that the program is an upgrade - but the city sure as hell is. Seattle (it is in Seattle, right?) is probably my favorite US city aside from Austin and Houston. It's a jewel.

I was just coming back here to say "hopefully this is more of a ploy to get TT to pay more money," but you guys are already on it.

If he's about winning, he'll stay at TT. He'll never have to worry about being left out because of a week schedule, and there will be plenty of national exposure.

Stay in Lubbock, Mike! I'm glad that you've replaced A&M as the 'horns most capable in-state rival! Stick around!

As a city, and a place to recruit to Seattle trumps Lubbock, but the talent level available in Washington, even for the states premeir school, is no where as good as Texas. Leach would have to recruit nationally, and UW's lack of recent succes would hurt that; and recruiting out of Cali would be difficult to say the least.

DiehardChris
12-03-2008, 01:25 PM
As a city, and a place to recruit to Seattle trumps Lubbock, but the talent level available in Washington, even for the states premeir school, is no where as good as Texas. Leach would have to recruit nationally, and UW's lack of recent succes would hurt that; and recruiting out of Cali would be difficult to say the least.

Oh, I know. I was speaking only about the quality of the city. Seattle is fantastic. Lubbock is a dump.

But it goes without saying that the talent is in Texas.

HOU-TEX
12-03-2008, 02:16 PM
Tech, ie Lubbock? Then the answer is yes, I went to school there. IF you mean UW, ie Seattle, then no.

I have not been back to Lubbock since the late 90's, but from what I've heard the improvements to the football facilities are fairly impressive.

Yes Tech. To me, it's the best looking campus in Texas. :)

YoungTexanFan
12-03-2008, 05:32 PM
Yes Tech. To me, it's the best looking campus in Texas. :)

I've been to Tech a few times to visit friends and see games, and I have never felt so unsafe on a college campus. Horrible town too. I would never wish Lubbock upon a foe.

bah007
12-04-2008, 10:17 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3746240

USC offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian will be named Washington coach, multiple sources told ESPN on Thursday night.

Sarkisian, who was quarterback at BYU, led the Cougars to a 13-1 finish in 1996. The 34-year-old has been the offensive coordinator at USC for two seasons. He was up for the Raiders head coaching job last year before it went to fellow USC assistant Lane Kiffin, who earlier this week was named head coach at Tennessee.

Texas Tech coach Mike Leach, Fresno State coach Pat Hill and Cincinnati coach Brian Kelly also interviewed for the job. Washington also persued Seattle Seahawks coach-in-waiting Jim Mora.

mexican_texan
12-04-2008, 10:25 PM
Yes Tech. To me, it's the best looking campus in Texas. :)
Doesn't compare to Texas State.

bah007
12-04-2008, 10:29 PM
Doesn't compare to Texas State.

Or Sam Houston.

Blake
12-05-2008, 02:33 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/ncaa/12/05/mike-leach.ap/index.html

Tech QB Harrell says 'great chance' Leach will leave

dc_txtech
12-06-2008, 06:11 AM
I always hear people talking about what a crappy town Lubbock is and I really don't get it. I have lived in Houston, Austin, Washington DC, and Lubbock and I have loved every single one of them.

I could find faults in each of the cities that I have lived in but IMO the good outweighs the bad in each case. Lubbock has the friendliest people by far of any place that I have ever lived, which is important to me. It's not like it's a little town (200,000+ people). There is no traffic, you can get wherever you need to go in under 10 minutes. There is always something to do if your a college student. 100's of bars, all kinds of restaurants, constant house parties, etc.

If you're looking for museums, fine art, and Broadway plays, then maybe it's not the best place to be. But who in Texas likes those things anyway?

The weather is absolutely beautiful. 6 months out of the year we have 75 degree highs and 50 degree lows (approximately). Once every 2 years or so there is a dust storm that lasts MAYBE 2 hours. No mosquitoes. We get the occasional snow storm which is just enough to enjoy the snow without it becoming a nuisance like it did in DC.

I remember last year there was some girl in my class who was complaining about the fact that there was nothing to do in Lubbock and bragging that she was from Austin. After putting up with as much as I could I finally turned around and told her that if she couldn't find something to do in a town with 50,000+ college students then there was something wrong with her, not the town.

I guess miserable people are going to be miserable wherever they go.