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beerlover
12-31-2004, 05:02 PM
I'm reading a lot of people dissatisfied with NFL team drafts not just the Texans alone as evidenced from Jaguar land and I've come to the conclusion that there needs to be a Mock Draft @ HoustonTexans.com. Only one lucky person can be the Texans GM and that distinct honor has to go to Vinny. After that on a first come first serve basis ( I'll take the Jags) until all 32 teams are signed up. We should start early & do one right away with only those eligible & declared soon after the bowls finish up, then still have time for a final tune-up before draft day after the combines have completed and all eligible prospects are known to all.

What say ye fellow draft geeks :bouncey: are ye game :heh:

This way you will have to feel the pain all year as GM of your team if you are the one making the mistakes or the glory for your teams triumphs as your rookies excell to become the CREAM OF THE CROP.

p.s. I would also suggest that its limited to three rounds for time constraints.

ledzeppelin229
12-31-2004, 05:15 PM
I'm up for it. I don't really care what team I am, but I'd like to go with the Saints since I think that's who I was on the HPF mock last year.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
12-31-2004, 05:16 PM
ill take the Ravens

wags
12-31-2004, 05:20 PM
I'll take the Niners. :whoohoo: Take notice, I draft to spite other GM's. :sumo:

gwallaia
12-31-2004, 06:06 PM
Vinny,

Is this the official sign-up for the mock draft? If so, give me the Dolphins. I'll take the Texans though if you are not up to it.

SESupergenius
12-31-2004, 10:24 PM
I'll take the Cards

ArlingtonTexan
12-31-2004, 10:39 PM
Let see Titans or cowboys..cowboys or titans...

titans please i would like to screw them up.

texansfan88
12-31-2004, 11:07 PM
Chargers please

jgl35
12-31-2004, 11:14 PM
Well, if this is a sign-up list, I would like Philadelphia.

Grid
01-01-2005, 01:52 AM
if this is the signup.. ill take the *EDIT* Nevermind.. ill take the Bears

fresno8
01-01-2005, 03:40 AM
I'll take the Packers.

ColdSteelBlue
01-01-2005, 07:48 AM
I'll take the Raiders.

texansalltheway
01-01-2005, 07:55 AM
If you don't mind rookies, I want to be Washinton...if they don't trade away all their draft picks.

TexasJedi
01-01-2005, 10:33 AM
I'll take the Chiefs.

Errant Hothy
01-01-2005, 11:18 AM
I'll take teh Cowboys, since I'm in Dallas and all.

Lucky
01-01-2005, 12:12 PM
I'll take the Jags. I'm thinking they could use a long snapper in the 1st. :D

Blake
01-01-2005, 01:30 PM
Put me down for the Cleveland "bad drafting" Browns.

texansfan88
01-01-2005, 01:41 PM
Teams Still Available:

Pittsburgh Steelers
Cincinnati Bengals
Houston Texans
Denver Broncos
NY Jets
New England Patriots
Buffalo Bills
NY Giants
Minnesota Vikings
Detroit Lions
St. Louis Rams
Seattle Seahawks
Carolina Panthers

I think it would be smarter to wait until after Jan. 16 for the mock b/c all of the juniors must declare by that date

texansfan88
01-01-2005, 01:42 PM
Lucky, Beerlover has already claimed the Jags

Vinny
01-01-2005, 02:16 PM
Ok guys, I will create a mock draft forum to host our annual multi-participant Mock draft sometime this weekend. texansfan88 and beerlover can manage this if you wish. I can set up the forum and the threads and give you editing powers in that specific forum if you would like to help run our 2005 version. I'm thinking we can do an early mock and then one right about combine time.

I will need some help with a top-10 prospect list at each draftable position, and will create pinned threads for announcements, picks, and one for the mock itself as it unfolds.

texansfan88
01-01-2005, 02:17 PM
I got you covered on the top 10 by position, I knew all the prospect database for work would come in handy...let me know when/where you need it.

Vinny
01-01-2005, 02:23 PM
I will create the new forum as a sub-forum and you can start some top prospect lists, player research or whatever you feel will help the others with their picks. We will run with the slow-draft method and a 24-hr clock as in the past years. I'll have you all set up this weekend. Likely this evening.

Lucky
01-01-2005, 04:52 PM
Lucky, Beerlover has already claimed the Jags
Oops, didn't see that. I'll take the Colts.

wags
01-01-2005, 04:56 PM
Oops, didn't see that. I'll take the Colts.

Draft a QB in the first and WR in the second.

D-ReK
01-01-2005, 08:34 PM
Never done this before, but I'll take the Bucs...

beerlover
01-01-2005, 11:25 PM
the official draft order will be available in about 24 hours. the current list going into tomorrow looks something like this-

THROUGH WEEK 16

PICK TEAM W OPP%

1 49ERS 2 0.483
2 BROWNS 3 0.588
3 TITANS 4 0.521
4 DOLPHINS 4 0.546
5 CARDINALS 5 0.463
6 BEARS 5 0.471
7 BUCCANEERS 5 0.475
8 REDSKINS 5 0.479
9 GIANTS 5 0.517
10 RAIDERS 5 0.575
11 LIONS 6 0.500
12 COWBOYS 6 0.504
13 SAINTS 7 0.475
14 RAMS 7 0.492
15 TEXANS 7 0.504
16 PANTHERS 7 0.508
17 BENGALS 7 0.533
18 CHIEFS 7 0.550
19 SEAHAWKS 8 0.450
20 VIKINGS 8 0.479
21 JAGUARS 8 0.538
22 RAVENS 8 0.550
23 PACKERS 9 0.467
24 BRONCOS 9 0.492
25 BILLS 9 0.504
26 JETS 10 0.517
27 FALCONS 11 0.429
28 CHARGERS 11 0.483
29 COLTS 12 0.496
30 EAGLES 13 0.442
31 PATRIOTS 13 0.521
32 STEELERS 14 0.475

Texans begin your draft boards :mag:

ps. Vinny you have the Texans right?

Fiddy
01-02-2005, 12:16 AM
And Fiddy selects the Vikings

AFC SOUTH
Houston Texans Vinny
Indianapolis Colts Lucky
Tennessee Titans ArlingtonTexan
Jacksonville Jaguars - beerlover

AFC NORTH
Baltimore Ravens - STEEL BLUE TEXANS
Cleveland Browns - DC_ROCK
Pittsburgh Steelers - texan279
Cincinnati Bengals - texasguy346

AFC EAST
Buffalo Bills
New England Patriots F-minus67
New York Jets NederlandTexan
Miami Dolphins gwallaia

AFC WEST
Kansas City Chiefs TexasJedi
San Diego Chargers texansfan88
Denver Broncos AlexVanderpool
Oakland Raiders - ColdSteelBlue

NFC EAST
New York Giants swtbound07
Philadelphia Eagles jgl35
Washington Redskins texansalltheway
Dallas Cowboys Hoth-Boy

NFC WEST
San Francisco 49ers wags
Arizona Cardinals SESupergenius
Seattle Seahawks Dime
St. Louis Rams - Mistril48

NFC SOUTH
New Orleans Saints ledzeppelin269
Carolina Panthers TexanTom
Tampa Bay Buccaneers D-ReK
Atlanta Falcons - ThirdEyeBC32

NFC NORTH
Minnesota Vikings Fiddy
Green Bay Packers fresno8
Detroit Lions Hottoddie
Chicago Bears Grid

texasguy346
01-02-2005, 12:20 AM
I'll take the Bills if they're still available.

wags
01-02-2005, 12:43 AM
I'll take the Bills if they're still available.

Remember that the Bills don't have a first round pick. I think were doing a three round draft, but in case you want a first rounder you may want to change. New York Giants also don't have a first.

texasguy346
01-02-2005, 02:05 AM
Remember that the Bills don't have a first round pick. I think were doing a three round draft, but in case you want a first rounder you may want to change. New York Giants also don't have a first.

thanks i forgot about that one.

I'll take the Bengals then.

Hottoddie
01-02-2005, 04:56 AM
I'm not sure how this works, but I'll take Detroit.

beerlover
01-02-2005, 05:43 AM
here is the transaction list of who has traded what picks to whom that should be valid for the first Mock Draft go around. Of course there will be more changes that affect the real draft come draft day but this should suffice for now-

2005

First Round

San Diego from NY Giants (QB Eli Manning)
Dallas from Buffalo (QB JP Losman)

Second Round

Philadelphia from Miami (QB AJ Feeley)
New Orleans from Washington (2004 draft day deal)
Green Bay from New Orleans (CB Mike McKenzie)

Third Round

Houston has pick from Dallas (QB Drew Henson)
Miami has pick from Chicago (DE Adewale Ogunleye)
St. Louis has pick from Miami (RB Lamar Gordon)
Tampa Bay has a #3 pick from San Diego (WR Keenan McCardell)
Denver has forfeited its 3rd round pick because of salary cap violations

Grid
01-02-2005, 07:28 AM
when does the league usually tell us what additional picks will be handed out? not until after FA right?

Grid
01-02-2005, 07:32 AM
by the way.. if it turns out we dont have enough people.. ill take a second team. Just give one to me, i dont care who.

Blake
01-02-2005, 03:32 PM
Question. Are we allowed to trade? If so I am looking to trade down a few spots. I should have the number 2-3 slot. PM me if you are looking to grab a player.


Here is a value chart you can use, so you can make the trade fair.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/6330687

Vinny
01-02-2005, 03:41 PM
Let's fill all the teams then determine a date to lauch the draft first. We can start trading when all the teams are in. I'll help organize this fully *Tuesday.

*I'll be out of town Monday

TexanTom
01-02-2005, 05:05 PM
I'll take the Panthers...

Mistril48
01-03-2005, 05:43 PM
I'll take the Rams if they are free.

texan279
01-03-2005, 05:54 PM
I guess I'll take the Steelers...

Dime
01-04-2005, 04:09 PM
I will take the seahawks or who ever might not be taken.

swtbound07
01-05-2005, 12:38 AM
I want the GIANTS! cant do any worse than eli/rivers...lol

Blake
01-05-2005, 12:56 PM
Teams Left.

Buffalo Bills
New England Patriots
New York Jets
Denver Broncos

Lets fill these teams guys.

AlexVanderpool
01-05-2005, 01:27 PM
I'll take the Denver Broncos...

F-minus67
01-05-2005, 01:44 PM
since I live a couple hours away from their stadium and have gone to a couple games, I'll take the pats.

Blake
01-05-2005, 02:13 PM
Teams left:

Jets
Bills - No first round pick.

NederlandTexan
01-05-2005, 02:30 PM
I'll take the Jets.

Blake
01-05-2005, 03:05 PM
Well if anyone wants the bills, which i doubt they do, they are the only team left.

I think someone should just double up with them.

texasguy346
01-05-2005, 03:46 PM
I originally opted for the Bills before someone reminded me that they had no first round pick. I went with the Bengals instead, but since no one wants them I'll double up and take them along with the Bengals. If someone else does decide to take the Bills then I'd be happy to give them up.

Blake
01-05-2005, 03:54 PM
Cool. We are set. Let the games begin.

Errant Hothy
01-05-2005, 05:56 PM
We should probaly wait till the 15th, since that's the deadline for underclassmen to declare.

Vinny
01-05-2005, 07:49 PM
We really ought to start it then. It will be more of a reflection of the real thing. I would like to host two multi-participant mocks here. This one and another one that starts during the combine and unfolds in the month that leads to the actual draft. This gives us all an opportunity to get more familiar with the names that will be called on draft day.

Grid
01-05-2005, 07:59 PM
so should we draft assuming that the big name underclassmen are going to declare?

Vinny
01-05-2005, 08:09 PM
If we start this on Monday the 17th we don't need to assume anything. You guys can take the week to get your draft research/plan ready.

Grid
01-05-2005, 08:20 PM
sounds good

Blake
01-06-2005, 06:21 PM
I think we should take this time to do trades, if we feel the team should. I am looking to take the Browns down. If you are looking for a specific player, like Antrel, or DJ, Im sure we can make a deal.

***Private Message me to talk about it.***

Here is a value chart you can use, so you can make the trade fair.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/6330687

Im not looking to drop to #20 or anything.

texan279
01-06-2005, 06:30 PM
Well, I am going to look to trade up since I am the new Steelers GM and all... :bguitar:

Fiddy
01-06-2005, 07:07 PM
Well all the GMs are set:

AFC SOUTH
Houston Texans Vinny
Indianapolis Colts Lucky
Tennessee Titans ArlingtonTexan
Jacksonville Jaguars - beerlover

AFC NORTH
Baltimore Ravens - STEEL BLUE TEXANS
Cleveland Browns - DC_ROCK
Pittsburgh Steelers - texan279
Cincinnati Bengals - texasguy346

AFC EAST
Buffalo Bills texasguy346 (If you dont have a team and want to do the Bills, texasguy346 said he would be happy to give the Bills to you since he is doubling up)
New England Patriots F-minus67
New York Jets NederlandTexan
Miami Dolphins gwallaia

AFC WEST
Kansas City Chiefs TexasJedi
San Diego Chargers texansfan88
Denver Broncos AlexVanderpool
Oakland Raiders - ColdSteelBlue

NFC EAST
New York Giants swtbound07
Philadelphia Eagles jgl35
Washington Redskins texansalltheway
Dallas Cowboys Hoth-Boy

NFC WEST
San Francisco 49ers wags
Arizona Cardinals SESupergenius
Seattle Seahawks Dime
St. Louis Rams - Mistril48

NFC SOUTH
New Orleans Saints ledzeppelin269
Carolina Panthers TexanTom
Tampa Bay Buccaneers D-ReK
Atlanta Falcons - ThirdEyeBC32

NFC NORTH
Minnesota Vikings Fiddy
Green Bay Packers fresno8
Detroit Lions Hottoddie
Chicago Bears Grid

Blake
01-11-2005, 08:01 PM
Any takers looking to jump up to #3? The browns are looking to move down.

texan279
01-11-2005, 08:14 PM
I am looking to move up.

Dime
01-11-2005, 10:16 PM
I am looking to move up.
I am pick 23 and I am looking to move down a bit so i might get an additional pick or earlier picks as well.

texan279
01-11-2005, 10:30 PM
I am looking to move into top 10 if anyone is interested.

jgl35
01-11-2005, 10:38 PM
Question, can we deal during the draft or must the trades be done before we start?

texasguy346
01-12-2005, 12:25 AM
I am looking to move into top 10 if anyone is interested.

I (The Bengals) might be interested in trading down, but I'm not in the top 10.

beerlover
01-12-2005, 04:08 AM
Question, can we deal during the draft or must the trades be done before we start?

I would be in favor of no dealing until GM wags (49ers) is officially on the clock with the first pick. This is generally the drill on draft day so this should help make things more action packed and exciting for all. After this weekends playoff games we should have a pretty good idea of the draft order, along with the underclassman available so its possible in less than a week Vinny could get this baby rolling :excited:

wags
01-15-2005, 08:21 PM
I would be in favor of no dealing until GM wags (49ers) is officially on the clock with the first pick.

The deadline for underclassmen was today, so I guess the 49ers are on the clock. If any wants the number 1 pick, I'm selling to the highest bidder. Otherwise I'm going to draft Mike Nugent. :idea:

Errant Hothy
01-15-2005, 08:32 PM
I'd wait till the NFL releases the offical list, which should be on Tuesday (with Monday being a holiday).

ledzeppelin229
01-16-2005, 01:09 AM
The deadline for underclassmen was today, so I guess the 49ers are on the clock. If any wants the number 1 pick, I'm selling to the highest bidder. Otherwise I'm going to draft Mike Nugent. :idea:

Good luck getting someone to take that piece of junk.

Blake
01-16-2005, 04:12 PM
I think the 49ers need to go with BPA. And I think it has to be either Rolle, DJ, the 2 WR, and the 2 QB's, smith, and rodgers.

And I like their QB right now, so I would take Rolle, or DJ.

Blake
01-16-2005, 04:27 PM
The deadline for underclassmen was today, so I guess the 49ers are on the clock. If any wants the number 1 pick, I'm selling to the highest bidder. Otherwise I'm going to draft Mike Nugent. :idea:


Haha. Great pick! :) And good luck trading out of the 1st pick...