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nunusguy
10-27-2008, 07:34 AM
Singletary later walked over to talk to Davis on the bench, yelling some more at the former No. 6 overall pick in full view of his teammates. Then with 10:41 remaining in the game, Singletary went back to Davis and told him to go to the locker room. Davis started walking before being called back to get his helmet. He then waved his helmet at the crowd as he left.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3665809
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If you've seen the Senior Bowl in recent years, they've shown a lot of the one-on-one coaching style of the fiery, discilinary-oriented former Chicago Bears LB and HOFamer.
I dunno, but will that approach to coaching fly these days with the hot-dog, highly-compensated type of players on the roster like the one that the new SanFran HC tossed out of yesterdays game for a "nonchalant attitude" ?

HoustonFrog
10-27-2008, 07:47 AM
Singletary later walked over to talk to Davis on the bench, yelling some more at the former No. 6 overall pick in full view of his teammates. Then with 10:41 remaining in the game, Singletary went back to Davis and told him to go to the locker room. Davis started walking before being called back to get his helmet. He then waved his helmet at the crowd as he left.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3665809
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If you've seen the Senior Bowl in recent years, they've shown a lot of the one-on-one coaching style of the fiery, discilinary-oriented former Chicago Bears LB and HOFamer.
I dunno, but will that approach to coaching fly these days with the hot-dog, highly-compensated type of players on the roster like the one that the new SanFran HC tossed out of yesterdays game for a "nonchalant attitude" ?

I'm not sure if it will work in the NFL but if one guy could do it and get the respect it is Singletary.

nunusguy
10-27-2008, 08:10 AM
Its interesting, but a few years ago I saw Singletary in person and he even dressed in old-school street cloths that day. But rather stylishly, very dapper actually. He was wearing a fedora hat with an understated dark-brown top coat over a conservative business suit. He looked like that leading man in the new hit series "Mad Men", if you've seen that cable production ? 1950s - 1960s circa.

SA Texan
10-27-2008, 08:18 AM
I love it! The NFL needs more coaches who are willing to take a stand against these guys who think they are above the team.

Kulluminatii
10-27-2008, 08:21 AM
I was able to catch that conference on The Blitz on ESPN, I must say, as much as I hate the 9ers, I have a lot of respect for their new head coach.

One of the announcers made a comment about Vernon Davis that I found absolutely hilarious..."Vernon Davis looks like Tarzan but plays like Jane", and just at that moment they cut to a clip of Vernon walking off the field...man, I haven't laughed that hard in a while.

TexansLucky13
10-27-2008, 08:29 AM
Dude is freaking awesome... if he can't turn San Fran around, no one can.

chicagotexan2
10-27-2008, 08:44 AM
What a bunch of bs. Vernon Davis is NO STAR. Good for Singletary. Install the 46!!

Kaiser Toro
10-27-2008, 09:00 AM
Supposedly, this has been Davis' MO. Now that Singletary has his record on the line as a coach he is going to nip it in the bud. I will be interested to see what the players' quotes are form the 49ers and the op-eds in the SF press this week. I bet they all have Samurai Mike's back.

toronto
10-27-2008, 09:52 AM
What a bunch of bs. Vernon Davis is NO STAR. Good for Singletary. Install the 46!!

Grrr beat me to the "no star" comment.

Rep!

TexansSeminole
10-27-2008, 09:58 AM
I like it. He told him that he would be more helpful if he went into the showers, changed into street clothes, and watched the game from the sidelines. Daaaaaaaaammmn. Wouldn't be suprised if they got rid of this guy , and Singletary actually gets that team in check.

GP
10-27-2008, 10:03 AM
It attracts players who are disciplined. A disciplined player doesn't get chewed out and humiliated like this--He plays by the rules, follows orders, and goes 100% all the time. So he loves to play on this sort of team. Players like Vernon Davis affect the players who are trying to be good players.

I prefer to have a HC like this for the team(s) I root for. You'll lose the selfish, superstar players like Vernon Davis....but you'll weed them out and start building a Cowher-esque team that is hard-nosed and efficient.

Professional sports, IMO, has become a big club of TV personalities instead of hard-working athletes who hate to lose and love to win.

nunusguy
10-27-2008, 10:21 AM
It attracts players who are disciplined. A disciplined player doesn't get chewed out and humiliated like this--He plays by the rules, follows orders, and goes 100% all the time. So he loves to play on this sort of team. Players like Vernon Davis affect the players who are trying to be good players.

I prefer to have a HC like this for the team(s) I root for. You'll lose the selfish, superstar players like Vernon Davis....but you'll weed them out and start building a Cowher-esque team that is hard-nosed and efficient.

Professional sports, IMO, has become a big club of TV personalities instead of hard-working athletes who hate to lose and love to win.
You make a lot of sense, a lot of good points with you're remarks there GP.
But I wonder if it will really play out that way, with teams having such huge investments in some individaul players like SF does in Davis by way of a high draft pick or big FA signing ?
Back in the day when Singletary was playing (20-25 years ago), there just wasn't so much money invested in player compensation, making the priorities of NFL Clubs different between then and now. Not that I don't buy into your argument GP, but I just wonder if the Singletarys prevail over the Davis's ?

toronto
10-27-2008, 10:37 AM
It attracts players who are disciplined. A disciplined player doesn't get chewed out and humiliated like this--He plays by the rules, follows orders, and goes 100% all the time. So he loves to play on this sort of team. Players like Vernon Davis affect the players who are trying to be good players.

I prefer to have a HC like this for the team(s) I root for. You'll lose the selfish, superstar players like Vernon Davis....but you'll weed them out and start building a Cowher-esque team that is hard-nosed and efficient.

Professional sports, IMO, has become a big club of TV personalities instead of hard-working athletes who hate to lose and love to win.

I completely agree with this sentiment. That's probably why I'm getting so much joy out of the Titans this year. There's no BS and no divas, and the only possibility of one is holding the clipboard.

I saw it firsthand when I went to the Titans hotel on the Saturday nite before the Texans game. Every player was scurrying to make curfew. LOL does Fisher have control there.

bah007
10-27-2008, 10:40 AM
Davis has had a wrap for this since he was in college.

SF knew this when they drafted him but they were blinded by his potential.

Davis is a guy that plays for his own stats.

He doesn't block & he doesn't run routes if he is covered. He is a chump. What a waste of talent.

Second Honeymoon
10-27-2008, 10:41 AM
after watching that press conference and how he set the tone from Day One of his regime all I have to say is...

Mike Singletary For President!!

Everyone in that locker room was just sent a message. My way or the highway. They aren't any worse a football team without the guy either. I hope this all works out for Mike because he probably deserved a better opportunity for success than mid-season 49er football without a QB worthy of mention.

I wouldn't be suprised to see Rosenfels as their starter next year while they draft a prospect in the 1st like Stafford from Georgia or in the 2nd-3rd with a guy like Graham out of Tech or maybe Painter out of Purdue.

gtexan02
10-27-2008, 10:45 AM
I'm so glad we never made a play for Davis. He was so hyped up before draft day---going to revolutionize the TE position....what a bust

Texan_Bill
10-27-2008, 10:50 AM
I remember his TE's coach riding his a$$ on the "Hey Rookie, Welcome to the NFL" series. Talked about bad technique and such..

Second Honeymoon
10-27-2008, 10:58 AM
I remember his TE's coach riding his a$$ on the "Hey Rookie, Welcome to the NFL" series. Talked about bad technique and such..

all the crying when he was drafted was a little offputing too. i know it came from a good place (being able to take care of his loved ones and family) but it was more of a 'OMG, I just hit the lottery..money money money' than 'OMG, I am now playing the NFL and competing'. Is winning and competing that important or is it just about him and the $$?

4Texans
10-27-2008, 11:20 AM
It doesn't matter who the player is..... You Go Mike!!!!:bat:

nunusguy
10-27-2008, 11:26 AM
He was so hyped up before draft day---going to revolutionize the TE position
I thought that was Reggie Bush ? Oh wait a minute that's right , he was going
to revolutionize the running-back position wasn't he ? Looks like he's having about as much success with that as Davis is with TE.

bah007
10-27-2008, 11:40 AM
I thought that was Reggie Bush ? Oh wait a minute that's right , he was going
to revolutionize the running-back position wasn't he ? Looks like he's having about as much success with that as Davis is with TE.

At least Bush has done something to help his team.

All Davis has done for that team is get paid to be a team cancer.

HOU-TEX
10-27-2008, 01:37 PM
Apparently he benched O'Sullivan too. Shaun Hill came in and had a decent outing. That might've been in "garbage time" though.

In the second quarter, Singletary benched O'Sullivan after he threw an interception that was returned by Josh Wilson 75 yards for a touchdown. That was O'Sullivan's second turnover of the game and 17th of the season.

Shaun Hill, who won his only two career starts last season, played the rest of the way, going 15-for-23 for 173 yards, a touchdown and no turnovers.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80bf88c7&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

IlliniJen
10-27-2008, 05:55 PM
That same thing that made me love Singletary as a player makes me love him as a coach. He's an old school knock-your-head-off type of guy who brings a great deal of passion to the game.

ATXtexanfan
10-27-2008, 07:06 PM
it would be cool if singletary could bring the niners back to glory

WesmanTexanfan
10-27-2008, 07:16 PM
I dont always agree with Mike, but being a friend to the family i back him on this. He is the type of guy that can do these things and get away with it when most others wouldnt. He demands/gets a ton of respect, and all though he might say it was poor timing, I like what he did.....

ObsiWan
10-28-2008, 12:39 AM
Dang.... I was hoping Singletary would come here as an assistant head coach for the defense.



....its my dream, leave me alone

beerlover
10-28-2008, 02:02 AM
Dang.... I was hoping Singletary would come here as an assistant head coach for the defense.



....its my dream, leave me alone

after he's fired then feel free to execute Smith & replace him with MIKE :cool:

mexican_texan
10-28-2008, 06:39 AM
Rivera's still available. He's not a D-coordinator anymore

BigBull17
10-28-2008, 07:05 AM
At least Bush has done something to help his team.

All Davis has done for that team is get paid to be a team cancer.

Yeah, not a fan of Reggie but he is a hundred times better than Davis. What a bad joke.

GP
10-28-2008, 08:31 AM
You make a lot of sense, a lot of good points with you're remarks there GP.
But I wonder if it will really play out that way, with teams having such huge investments in some individaul players like SF does in Davis by way of a high draft pick or big FA signing ?
Back in the day when Singletary was playing (20-25 years ago), there just wasn't so much money invested in player compensation, making the priorities of NFL Clubs different between then and now. Not that I don't buy into your argument GP, but I just wonder if the Singletarys prevail over the Davis's ?

It's obviously a harder road to walk for Singletary than it would have been 20 years ago in the NFL. The endorsement deals, ESPN highlights every 15 minutes, satellite radio, billboards, appearances on Letterman, etc., have all clouded the heads of players. These guys grew up watching NFL players bask in all this superstardom, a contrast from what I saw when I was a kid.

IF the 49ers were serious when they installed Singletary mid-season, then they ought to give him a long term deal to see what he can do. It gets so old, watching the same coaches make the circuit every few years. 49ers should see where Mike takes this, at least to analyze how the team looked pre-Mike and then post-Mike.

What's the alternative? Go get some guy who got fired from his previous head coach job? I think it'll work out, unless 49ers get cute and think they have to obtain a name in order to get better.

LOL. If I were HC, I'd CUT Vernon Davis. Cut him outright. I'd show the players that I meant business--No more free cake, fellas. Let's be about the business of playing f-o-o-t-b-a-l-l.

It's not like Vernon Davis is going to go somewhere and burn the 49ers for doing it. And the dollars? Who cares.

mexican_texan
10-28-2008, 08:35 AM
It's obviously a harder road to walk for Singletary than it would have been 20 years ago in the NFL. The endorsement deals, ESPN highlights every 15 minutes, satellite radio, billboards, appearances on Letterman, etc., have all clouded the heads of players. These guys grew up watching NFL players bask in all this superstardom, a contrast from what I saw when I was a kid.

IF the 49ers were serious when they installed Singletary mid-season, then they ought to give him a long term deal to see what he can do. It gets so old, watching the same coaches make the circuit every few years. 49ers should see where Mike takes this, at least to analyze how the team looked pre-Mike and then post-Mike.

What's the alternative? Go get some guy who got fired from his previous head coach job? I think it'll work out, unless 49ers get cute and think they have to obtain a name in order to get better.

LOL. If I were HC, I'd CUT Vernon Davis. Cut him outright. I'd show the players that I meant business--No more free cake, fellas. Let's be about the business of playing f-o-o-t-b-a-l-l.

It's not like Vernon Davis is going to go somewhere and burn the 49ers for doing it. And the dollars? Who cares.
The Niners wouldn't do that. They got screwed over by the salary cap in the late 90s and have been recovering ever since. Cutting someone like Vernon Davis just wouldn't make sense. Trading him, there's an option.

WWJD
10-28-2008, 08:48 AM
Didn't the Niners lose large the other day?

That will be the determining factor in his tenure there...not whether he's a taskmaster or not.

mexican_texan
10-28-2008, 06:56 PM
Rivera's still available. He's not a D-coordinator anymore
Nevermind.