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Bayern
12-29-2004, 12:31 PM
Correct me if I am wrong but he's a free agent at the end of this year right?

I think it would be foolish not to unload his salary while we have the chance and go after some younger blood for the defensive line. He just hasn't produced at all for us this year. So......

1) Can we lose Walker?
2) Who can we go after to fill the void?

:hmmm: :hmmm: :hmmm:

jagsfanincanada
12-29-2004, 12:41 PM
Didn't he just sign a big extension?

Fiddy
12-29-2004, 12:42 PM
Didn't he just sign a big extension?Yeah he did. He isnt a FA and I doubt we release him...

Bayern
12-29-2004, 12:55 PM
Ahh! You guys are right. Wish we could find a loophole. He's just not the player he once was.

WWJD
12-29-2004, 12:57 PM
I think the Texans made a mistake by signing him to such a large contract. He's on the downside of his career and this year made a few big plays but most of the time disappears during the games.

Bayern
12-29-2004, 01:04 PM
If it wouldn't hurt us financially I'd drop Walker and go after a guy like Marcus Spears with our 1st rounder this year.

Ahh... maybe its too early to talk bad about Walker, but hey this is the NFL which of course stands for Not For Long when you play like that. :heh:

jagsfanincanada
12-29-2004, 01:15 PM
Didn't he get a signing bonus like 11 mil? That would definitely hurt your cap if all that got accelerated.

texansfan88
12-29-2004, 01:18 PM
If it wouldn't hurt us financially I'd drop Walker and go after a guy like Marcus Spears with our 1st rounder this year.

Ahh... maybe its too early to talk bad about Walker, but hey this is the NFL which of course stands for Not For Long when you play like that. :heh:
Walker is doing fine. If you want Spears, you're looking at releasing Payne, moving Smith to NT and drafting Spears. Otherwise, thats too much of the salary put in those 4 players

Hervoyel
12-29-2004, 01:23 PM
Isn't it just possible that Gary had a down year? In judging whether or not the line did well and/or whether Walker is still the player he once was I'd have to factor in the play of Seth Payne who's just lately started looking like the guy he was before his knee injury.

I'm in the "let's see what this line does next season" camp on this question. Almost everyone has a down year every now and then. Next year I bet Walker is bringing the Funk like he did in 2002.

Mistril48
12-29-2004, 01:27 PM
If it wouldn't hurt us financially I'd drop Walker and go after a guy like Marcus Spears with our 1st rounder this year... I like Marcus Spears as a Texan, but I have some thoughts on Walker.

Before the year started, many posters suggested that Walker couldn't be expected to have a great year, becuase he was coming off a year of injuries. I hadn't thought much about it, because I associated the concept of two years for an injury to knee injuries and running backs, but perhaps they were right.

Walker certainly didn't have a Pro Bowl year, which he has in the past. Is it possible that he'll play better next year? Is it possible he still has another Pro Bowl in him, particularly with a better defense around him? Why do we all assume that a guy who hasn't taken an NFL snap (Spears) will play better than a guy who has already been to the Pro Bowl?

In terms of the costs of Walker, the reality is that we compete in a (relatively) open market for veteran players. While we would like to pay less for Walker, we have to compete with other teams for his services. We may have also wanted a younger Walker, who wasn't a gangster (like David Boston), but perhaps one didn't exist. Maybe you're better off with the devil you know instead of the devil you don't know.

Vinny
12-29-2004, 01:37 PM
I'm a big Walker fan myself. He plays exactly the way we need a defender to play. Mean and with an attitude. I'm pretty much with Herv and mistril on this one. I think he can come back and have a good year because I see a lot of 2-gap players with long careers and there have been many a player to have an off-year after big injuries to their wheels.

Chance_C
12-29-2004, 01:39 PM
Next year I bet Walker is bringing the Funk like he did in 2002

I agree with that. G-funk's injuries, and the fact that Seth Payne is just now getting back to his old self has played a part in Gary's 1 year demise IMO. He is one of my favorite Texans and I think he can return to pre injury form. Robaire has become a very good player for us, and should be even better next year. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't defensive lineman usually have longer careers than other positions?

Bayern
12-29-2004, 02:29 PM
Well I can honestly say I hope you guys are right!
The defense has looked very solid lately, so maybe I am jumping to conclusions early about Walker.
Its just been hard to watch us IMO being one step away from a legitimate pass rush. If Walker isn't 100% still, then I will give him the benefit of the doubt and hope he can turn it around next year.

TexansTrueFan
12-29-2004, 02:45 PM
G-Man is still got what it takes to be a threat on our D-Line, and i dont see us replacing him any time soon !