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fresno8
12-29-2004, 05:24 AM
What do you guys think of Kris Brown? He started off great and has slumped lately. He has missed some opening drive field goals that have cost us points on our first drive and it looks like we have a hard time rebounding from that. What are your guy's thoughts on him? He has a strong leg. It seems to me that he doesn't look comfortable kicking right now.
Here are his stats from this year and last by month

2003
sept 7-10 oct 1-1 nov 7-8 dec 3-3 total 18-22

2004
sept 6-6 oct 7-8 nov 3-7 dec 1-3 total 17-24

jacquescas
12-29-2004, 06:45 AM
he is no stud, but he is above average. will make most of the kicks he is supposed to and occasionly hit the pressure or distance kick, but i wouldn't want a game to rest on his leg from more than 45 yards.

OzzO
12-29-2004, 09:35 AM
I would wipe out December... we'll at least give it less weight. Being in Chicago and Jax with the cold and / or wind swirling probably didn't help his ability.

Flip side - he'd better work on it as we may need that late FG next season for the push into the playoffs.

the wonger need food
12-29-2004, 12:19 PM
Has anyone noticed how terrible our kickers have been this year?

Bayern
12-29-2004, 12:26 PM
Yeah I have actually. Well..... the second half of the season anyway, they haven't looked incredibly accurate. Brown got stuffed by the Jags and missed one (or two?) against the Bears. Anything else in recent history?

Stanley looked terrible in Chicago.... but then again it was Chicago.

Fiddy
12-29-2004, 12:43 PM
Stanley looked terrible in Chicago.... but then again it was Chicago.I dont blame Stanley for that game because the football must of felt like a block of ice...

Brown was great for the first part of the season but after, I think, the first Jags game, he has been really bad...

OzzO
12-29-2004, 12:48 PM
Ah, not too bad... just a kick or so off his normal pace.

Year Team G 1-19 20-29 30-39 40-49 50+ Tot Lg Blk Pct XP XPG Pct
1999 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 2-2 5-5 9-10 8-11 1-1 25-29 51 1 86.2 30-31 30 96.8
2000 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 1-1 8-8 9-10 6-9 1-2 25-30 52 0 83.3 32-33 32 97.0
2001 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 0-0 7-7 15-20 6-15 2-2 30-44 55 0 68.2 34-37 34 91.9
2002 Houston Texans 16 0-1 3-3 1-1 11-14 2-5 17-24 51 2 70.8 20-20 20 100.0
2003 Houston Texans 16 1-1 3-3 8-8 5-6 1-4 18-22 50 0 81.8 27-27 27 100.0
2004 Houston Texans 15 0-0 7-7 3-5 6-9 1-3 17-24 50 2 70.8 32-32 32 100.0
TOTAL 95 4-5 33-33 45-54 42-64 8-17 132-173 55 5 76.3 175-180 175 97.2

Kris Bown stats (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/133236)

Interesting he had quite a bit more attemps for the Steelers though.

Doom Capers
12-29-2004, 01:34 PM
Man, those people in Pitt hate Kris Brown. When I was there for the pre season game he was booed and yelled at. It was pretty bad. But once I heard why they were booing, I guess I understand why.

SheTexan
12-29-2004, 02:21 PM
Getting your bell rung BIG TIME, and suffering from a hip injury, just might account for a couple missed FGs!

Don't count K. Brown out until he screws up when he is completely healthy. Kris plays with the heart, soul, and passion that everyone wants from any player on their team. He's more than just a kicker! He plays hard and is not afraid to make a hit when he has too.

JustBonee
12-29-2004, 02:50 PM
Agreed Sandy.
How quickly everyone forgets what he went thru earlier in the season!
Instead of attacking him, give him a little compassion.
His enthusiasm for the game always shows, and he gives everything he's got.

shinerbock_girl
12-29-2004, 04:12 PM
Man, those people in Pitt hate Kris Brown. When I was there for the pre season game he was booed and yelled at. It was pretty bad. But once I heard why they were booing, I guess I understand why.

I missed that one, why were they booing????

SESupergenius
12-30-2004, 11:00 AM
they were boing because Brown accepted the Texans offer instead of the Steelers. Fans were boing him for missing FG's at the Ketchup Bottle in the 1st year. Come to find out, quality kickers like Viniterri were missing them just as well.

shinerbock_girl
12-30-2004, 11:10 AM
they were boing because Brown accepted the Texans offer instead of the Steelers. Fans were boing him for missing FG's at the Ketchup Bottle in the 1st year. Come to find out, quality kickers like Viniterri were missing them just as well.

OHHH ok thanks for the info...

the wonger need food
12-30-2004, 11:13 AM
It seems like Stanley and Brown have at least one shank a game.

shinerbock_girl
12-30-2004, 11:14 AM
You know who i like as a kicker??? Gary Anderson of the Titans...That dude can easily nail a 50 yarder...

Shotgun30
12-30-2004, 12:46 PM
You know who i like as a kicker??? Gary Anderson of the Titans...That dude can easily nail a 50 yarder...

What are you talking about.....Anderson has tried one 50 plus yard field goal this year and he missed it.....and Anderson is a lifetime 12 for 40 at 50 plus yard field goals

Kris Brown is 1 for 3 from 50 yards plus this year and is 8 for 17 lifetime.

shinerbock_girl
12-30-2004, 06:23 PM
What are you talking about.....Anderson has tried one 50 plus yard field goal this year and he missed it.....and Anderson is a lifetime 12 for 40 at 50 plus yard field goals

Kris Brown is 1 for 3 from 50 yards plus this year and is 8 for 17 lifetime.

No during the Titans/bronchos game he got a 50 yarder....

shinerbock_girl
12-30-2004, 06:26 PM
I thought he was better then that, maybe i was wrong....just upset Kris brown missed alot of our important Field goals like the one that was a 20 yarder in the Packers game...

Shotgun30
12-30-2004, 06:28 PM
No during the Titans/bronchos game he got a 50 yarder....

Actually the Punter Craig Hentrich hit that field goal......see link or the line from the box score below......

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/boxscores/2004/12/25/1302_boxscore.html

TEN FG, Craig Hentrich 50 Yd FG 0:00 Broncos 24-16

rhc564
12-30-2004, 06:47 PM
...several snaps to holder have been high or off target, which greatly
affects the kicker because timing between the three is crucial, easily
contributing to a miss :hmmm:

shinerbock_girl
12-30-2004, 06:47 PM
Actually the Punter Craig Hentrich hit that field goal......see link or the line from the box score below......

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/boxscores/2004/12/25/1302_boxscore.html

TEN FG, Craig Hentrich 50 Yd FG 0:00 Broncos 24-16

WOW, your right, i thought it was Anderson...Thanks for the info....I guess i was wrong

Ibar_Harry
12-30-2004, 07:04 PM
Again the O-line probably has had something to do with it to. I think a lot that has been happening goes back to the same point of origin. If you feel pressure to get it off quickly it does affect your timing.................

Cincinnatikid
12-31-2004, 01:49 AM
if you want a kicker, you draft Nugent from Ohio State, he can make the 50 plus kicks all day

TexansTrueFan
12-31-2004, 02:12 AM
i still like kris brown as our kicker, he has just had a rough season !!!!!

Hervoyel
12-31-2004, 03:33 PM
Everyone is going to have a down season sooner or later. Good thing Kris got it over with this year. He'll be back on track next season.

Yankee_In_TX
01-01-2005, 03:48 PM
Don't anyone tell Lindsay, but "Nugent for Texans!"

Fiddy
01-02-2005, 06:58 PM
Brown kicks a kickoff into the stands and Stanley gets the nickname Shank-ley. Rough end to the season for our kickers...

Texan Gal 312
01-02-2005, 07:07 PM
I was watching Brown warm up for the second half. Of the three I saw him kick, he kick two of them just like the kick to open the second half.

If you play golf, have you ever had your swing totally leave you, that is what his kicks look like. Either that or he has some kind of leg injury.

the wonger need food
01-02-2005, 07:54 PM
Another shank by our punter. Hopefully they'll be looking to upgrade P and K this offseason.

mulpwr
01-04-2005, 04:14 AM
they were boing because Brown accepted the Texans offer instead of the Steelers. Fans were boing him for missing FG's at the Ketchup Bottle in the 1st year. Come to find out, quality kickers like Viniterri were missing them just as well.


I don't think most Steeler fans minded that he left since missing 14 field goals in a year is a prerequisite to disliking a kicker. He single handily lost the Ravens game in 2001 by missing field goals of 41,33,48,35 which the Steelers lost 13 to 10.

Tedc
01-04-2005, 07:08 AM
The Steelers replaced him with a kicker (Todd Petersoen)that hit 57.1% before having to replace him with Jeff Reed during the season. I bet that made you feel good.

How about in 2003 when Jeff Reed had his first full season and kicked 71.9% while Kris Brown went 81.8% for the Texans? That made you look smart.

No wonder the Steelers hate him.

This year Kris has been injured and they don't have a replacement. Jeff Reed was 84.8% while Kris struggled at 70.8%.

I think we are fine when Kris comes back healthy.

Yankee_In_TX
01-04-2005, 08:49 AM
I would wipe out December... we'll at least give it less weight. Being in Chicago and Jax with the cold and / or wind swirling probably didn't help his ability.

Flip side - he'd better work on it as we may need that late FG next season for the push into the playoffs.

He was injured from Indy on.

Stanley was hurt almost all season :-/

mulpwr
01-05-2005, 04:58 AM
The Steelers replaced him with a kicker (Todd Petersoen)that hit 57.1% before having to replace him with Jeff Reed during the season. I bet that made you feel good.

How about in 2003 when Jeff Reed had his first full season and kicked 71.9% while Kris Brown went 81.8% for the Texans? That made you look smart.

No wonder the Steelers hate him.

This year Kris has been injured and they don't have a replacement. Jeff Reed was 84.8% while Kris struggled at 70.8%.

I think we are fine when Kris comes back healthy.


Jeef Reed had a hip injury he played with in 2003 that affected his kicking. He had offseason surgery and now is kicking much better and has made 17 in a row.

The Steeler fans hate him for the reason i stated, not because of Brown leaving. They were happy to see him go.