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Number19
10-18-2008, 01:26 PM
Back before training camp, I remember the predictors looking at the strength of the opening schedule and saying 1 - 4, and maybe hoping for a break and taking 2 wins. Well, the breaks went to Indianapolis and we ended up losing a game which was in our grasp. But still, we are at 1 - 4, which many expected.

Now, maybe, it is the way we lost our games - we expected more improvement, particularly in the pressure we are, or are not, getting from the defensive line.

But I'm going to look at the glass as half full rather than half empty.

Double Barrel
10-18-2008, 01:35 PM
I have found in life that if you lower your expectations, you will not be disappointed. This philosophy has served me well, including everything from sports to people.

Malloy
10-18-2008, 02:16 PM
I have found in life that if you lower your expectations, you will not be disappointed. This philosophy has served me well, including everything from sports to people.

Indeed, with this philosophy one usually is pleasently surprised in almost anything :)

barrett
10-18-2008, 03:43 PM
it is undoubtibly my new philosophy for 08. after the game where we had more points than the dolphins despite 4 or 5 "virtual" turnovers, that's my new trick. i will be in the stands pleasantly surprised when we do well, but not all that disappointed when we don't.

CloakNNNdagger
10-18-2008, 03:50 PM
I have found in life that if you lower your expectations, you will not be disappointed. This philosophy has served me well, including everything from sports to people.

I have shared your philosophy in some aspects of life. Unfortunately, many times when you lower your expectation of players, they have a way of feeling more comfortable to playing to your expectations.

barrett
10-18-2008, 03:58 PM
well it's supposed to be a secret. we're not supposed to let on that we have low expectations...

3rd and Inches
10-18-2008, 04:05 PM
I have found in life that if you lower your expectations, you will not be disappointed. This philosophy has served me well, including everything from sports to people.

My wife shares the same philosophy.. hence why she married me.. LMAO

Runner
10-18-2008, 04:07 PM
Back before training camp, I remember the predictors looking at the strength of the opening schedule and saying 1 - 4, and maybe hoping for a break and taking 2 wins. Well, the breaks went to Indianapolis and we ended up losing a game which was in our grasp. But still, we are at 1 - 4, which many expected.


I'd say predicting 1-4 and/or being satisfied with 1-4 because the Texans were forced to play "good" teams is a sign expectations have already been lowered. The Texans are supposed to be in the same league as the big boys. They aren't "playing up" just to get better.

ObsiWan
10-18-2008, 04:23 PM
Back before training camp, I remember the predictors looking at the strength of the opening schedule and saying 1 - 4, and maybe hoping for a break and taking 2 wins. Well, the breaks went to Indianapolis and we ended up losing a game which was in our grasp. But still, we are at 1 - 4, which many expected.

Now, maybe, it is the way we lost our games - we expected more improvement, particularly in the pressure we are, or are not, getting from the defensive line.

But I'm going to look at the glass as half full rather than half empty.

During preseason, I figured we would beat the Ravens (no offense and an aging defense) and the Dolphins (they have no luck against us - who knows why) and be 2-4 going into this game.
If we were lucky, maybe we'd steal one in Jacksonville or Tennessee. We usually play the Jags tough - and we did, we just lost the OT coin toss. And I was counting on sucky QB play by Vince to keep the game close enough for us to maybe steal it; but Fisher outsmarted everyone by using the Titans' only real QB.

So while I'm still disappointed that we let two winnable games get away from us, I'm not totally surprised at what our record is.

Now if our D lets the Lions look like they have an offense, you'll see real disappointment. Make that outrage.

Tejas Bruja
10-18-2008, 04:42 PM
My wife shares the same philosophy.. hence why she married me.. LMAO

People go to Hell for telling lesser lies! :foottap:

Speedy
10-18-2008, 07:35 PM
I have found in life that if you lower your expectations, you will not be disappointed. This philosophy has served me well, including everything from sports to people.

Then it looks like I'm setting myself up for another classic meltdown in 547 because I expect the Texans to roll the Lions.

Seriously though, I don't think it's a question of where our expectations lie. I think we're all just ready for this team to start winning. This is year 7. Expectations, schmexpectations. It's time to start freaking winning.

mattieuk
10-18-2008, 08:00 PM
Then it looks like I'm setting myself up for another classic meltdown in 547 because I expect the Texans to roll the Lions.

Seriously though, I don't think it's a question of where our expectations lie. I think we're all just ready for this team to start winning. This is year 7. Expectations, schmexpectations. It's time to start freaking winning.

Phrase of the year. Easily.

Either way though, low expectations are for teams with no talent who can pull off a stunning win. We are a team with talent who can pull off a stunning win. Thats why I'm hoping for big things tomorrow!

CloakNNNdagger
10-18-2008, 09:25 PM
Phrase of the year. Easily.

Either way though, low expectations are for teams with no talent who can pull off a stunning win. We are a team with talent who can pull off a stunning win. Thats why I'm hoping for big things tomorrow!

We seem to be a team with talent, with stunningly poor direction.

Hervoyel
10-18-2008, 09:46 PM
For my part I am crushed every time the Texans lose. On a Sunday following a loss I am utterly destroyed and don't want any human contact for the rest of the day. I do yard work and think about how bad the team sucks and how angry I am about it. I live in world of bitter disappointment for about 24 hours.

A loss adds to the already crappy Monday morning routine of going back to work but by noon on Monday I'm starting to hate the world a little less. I might smile before the end of the day if something is really funny or the loss wasn't completely embarrassing. Burying myself in my job keeps me from thinking the bad thoughts and drowns out the worst parts of what the voices tell me to do.

I get up Tuesday and think that I might be able to get over the previous loss if I can just find some redeeming quality about the game. By the end of the day I'm feeling a little better after finding out that the Texans lead the NFL in yards per carry after the 3rd quarter following an opponents scoring drive while still holding all of their timeouts.

Wednesday I know I'm going to make it because that's the day I start looking around and noticing that despite the bad mood I've been in everyone else seems normal. The normalcy starts to rub off on me and I start thinking about the next game. I'd say by the end of the day on Wednesday I'm maybe 34.8% disappointed.

Thursday that drops to around 20% as I start looking at all the information that's appearing online about the upcoming game. I begin to rationalize the previous loss and come up with valid (in my mind) reasons why we're absolutely going to win the next one.

Friday I'm wearing my jersey to work again like the sucker I am and thinking about the game. Saturday I'm trying to get all my weekend stuff done so that I can kick back on Sunday and watch the Texans take the next step. Of course I leave a little something undone just in case I should find myself out in the yard after the next game hating the world and needing something to keep me busy following another Texans loss....

ObsiWan
10-19-2008, 04:39 AM
For my part I am crushed every time the Texans lose. On a Sunday following a loss I am utterly destroyed and don't want any human contact for the rest of the day. I do yard work and think about how bad the team sucks and how angry I am about it. I live in world of bitter disappointment for about 24 hours.

A loss adds to the already crappy Monday morning routine of going back to work but by noon on Monday I'm starting to hate the world a little less. I might smile before the end of the day if something is really funny or the loss wasn't completely embarrassing. Burying myself in my job keeps me from thinking the bad thoughts and drowns out the worst parts of what the voices tell me to do.

I get up Tuesday and think that I might be able to get over the previous loss if I can just find some redeeming quality about the game. By the end of the day I'm feeling a little better after finding out that the Texans lead the NFL in yards per carry after the 3rd quarter following an opponents scoring drive while still holding all of their timeouts.

Wednesday I know I'm going to make it because that's the day I start looking around and noticing that despite the bad mood I've been in everyone else seems normal. The normalcy starts to rub off on me and I start thinking about the next game. I'd say by the end of the day on Wednesday I'm maybe 34.8% disappointed.

Thursday that drops to around 20% as I start looking at all the information that's appearing online about the upcoming game. I begin to rationalize the previous loss and come up with valid (in my mind) reasons why we're absolutely going to win the next one.

Friday I'm wearing my jersey to work again like the sucker I am and thinking about the game. Saturday I'm trying to get all my weekend stuff done so that I can kick back on Sunday and watch the Texans take the next step. Of course I leave a little something undone just in case I should find myself out in the yard after the next game hating the world and needing something to keep me busy following another Texans loss....

well, at least you don't kick your dog...
:)

Malloy
10-19-2008, 04:45 AM
For my part I am crushed every time the Texans lose. On a Sunday following a loss I am utterly destroyed and don't want any human contact for the rest of the day. I do yard work and think about how bad the team sucks and how angry I am about it. I live in world of bitter disappointment for about 24 hours.


If I had a yard I would invite you over for every Texans game.

Think of all the yard work I would have gotten :)

TD
10-19-2008, 08:46 AM
For my part I am crushed every time the Texans lose. On a Sunday following a loss.....

Wow, other than I don't see breaking or punching things on Sunday, that was my EXACT life in the old Oiler days.

After Bud ripped my heart out, I'll NEVER get that old passion back. Sorta like my 2nd marriage, I won't let myself get that emotionally invested again. Now, I just get bummed Sunday and pretty much over it by Monday.

While I don't miss the lows, I do miss the highs. #$%& you Bud Adams!

Thorn
10-19-2008, 09:02 AM
I have found in life that if you lower your expectations, you will not be disappointed. This philosophy has served me well, including everything from sports to people.


Before footballs starts this Sunday, the combined record of our future opponets is 25-35, with the majority of the teams we play around .500 rocords. Those stats are lopsided because our next two games are against two teams with a combined 0-11 record. If the Texans are a middle of the road team, which I believe they are, then they should be able to beat "bad" teams and play other .500 teams to the finish.

But as you say, DB, by not expecting the full potential out of anything is a good trait to have as a Houston football fan. Our history in H-Town bears that out.

Number19
10-19-2008, 10:36 AM
I'm a little surprised at the direction this discussion took - this philosophical or personal direction. I was directing my original question from more of an evaluation of talent and a reasoned approach to expectations - like Vegas.

I'm in agreement with Thorn - the remaining schedule is looking favorable and I'm still "expecting" our first winning season.

ObsiWan
10-19-2008, 12:20 PM
I'm a little surprised at the direction this discussion took - this philosophical or personal direction. I was directing my original question from more of an evaluation of talent and a reasoned approach to expectations - like Vegas.

I'm in agreement with Thorn - the remaining schedule is looking favorable and I'm still "expecting" our first winning season.

hmmm for that to happen we need to win eight more games... are there really eight winnable games left considering our defense?

Lions --- win
BenGals - win
@ Vikes - win (maybe)
Ravens -- win (probably)
@ Colts - loss
@ Browns- loss (they have our number for some reason; who knows why)
Jags ---- win
@ Packers - loss (I'm not liking going to Green Bay in December)
Titans ---- loss
@ Raiders - win
Bears ----- win

I can see 8-8 but 9-7 is possible if we can steal one. I'd feel more confident if we stop the dang giveaways.

TheRealJoker
10-19-2008, 12:32 PM
If you look too far into the future you seem to forget about what's right in front of you. We've just gotta keep battling one game at a time, we've got a pretty hungry opponent in a few hours so we should just worry about beating them before plans are made about the rest of the season.

Thorn
10-19-2008, 01:03 PM
If you look too far into the future you seem to forget about what's right in front of you. We've just gotta keep battling one game at a time, we've got a pretty hungry opponent in a few hours so we should just worry about beating them before plans are made about the rest of the season.

Kubiak, is that you? LOL

ObsiWan
10-19-2008, 01:18 PM
Kubiak, is that you? LOL

if it ain't it ought to be

TheRealJoker
10-19-2008, 02:39 PM
Kubiak, is that you? LOL

Woops, sent the speech to the wrong spot.

Well I guess the cats out of the bag regarding "who writes Kubes' speeches"...

Livid13
10-19-2008, 02:45 PM
For my part I am crushed every time the Texans lose. On a Sunday following a loss I am utterly destroyed and don't want any human contact for the rest of the day. I do yard work and think about how bad the team sucks and how angry I am about it. I live in world of bitter disappointment for about 24 hours.

A loss adds to the already crappy Monday morning routine of going back to work but by noon on Monday I'm starting to hate the world a little less. I might smile before the end of the day if something is really funny or the loss wasn't completely embarrassing. Burying myself in my job keeps me from thinking the bad thoughts and drowns out the worst parts of what the voices tell me to do.

I get up Tuesday and think that I might be able to get over the previous loss if I can just find some redeeming quality about the game. By the end of the day I'm feeling a little better after finding out that the Texans lead the NFL in yards per carry after the 3rd quarter following an opponents scoring drive while still holding all of their timeouts.

Wednesday I know I'm going to make it because that's the day I start looking around and noticing that despite the bad mood I've been in everyone else seems normal. The normalcy starts to rub off on me and I start thinking about the next game. I'd say by the end of the day on Wednesday I'm maybe 34.8% disappointed.

Thursday that drops to around 20% as I start looking at all the information that's appearing online about the upcoming game. I begin to rationalize the previous loss and come up with valid (in my mind) reasons why we're absolutely going to win the next one.

Friday I'm wearing my jersey to work again like the sucker I am and thinking about the game. Saturday I'm trying to get all my weekend stuff done so that I can kick back on Sunday and watch the Texans take the next step. Of course I leave a little something undone just in case I should find myself out in the yard after the next game hating the world and needing something to keep me busy following another Texans loss....
I used to have to take a pass on all of the post game shows, print (believe it or not) and multi-media after a Texans loss. I am very disappointed with the season so far and yet I'm behind the team every weekend. That makes me either a fool, a loyal fan, or both.

The Pencil Neck
10-19-2008, 08:41 PM
I used to have to take a pass on all of the post game shows, print (believe it or not) and multi-media after a Texans loss. I am very disappointed with the season so far and yet I'm behind the team every weekend. That makes me either a fool, a loyal fan, or both.

Ah, well. Join the club.

Norg
10-19-2008, 09:56 PM
iam happy right now tho i did think going into the season we could hang with the elite teams


but now ill just say we are a middle of teh pack team

thunderkyss
10-19-2008, 10:16 PM
hmmm for that to happen we need to win eight more games... are there really eight winnable games left considering our defense?

Lions --- win
BenGals - win
@ Vikes - win (maybe)
Ravens -- win (probably)
@ Colts - loss
@ Browns- loss (they have our number for some reason; who knows why)
Jags ---- win
@ Packers - loss (I'm not liking going to Green Bay in December)
Titans ---- loss
@ Raiders - win
Bears ----- win

I can see 8-8 but 9-7 is possible if we can steal one. I'd feel more confident if we stop the dang giveaways.

I've seen improvement from this teams offense, and our ability to run the ball. Once we can run the ball at will, we will be able to control our own destiny.

We looked like $@#t against Pittsburgh, & The Titans are much better than I gave them credit for. We should have beat the jags, and we dominated the Colts......

I'm disappointed, that we didn't play a full game against the Lions..... (a coaching issue)..

I remember when the Patriots & Tom Brady won their first SuperBowl. When they got to the Play-offs, I picked them to lose every game. I kept saying, they haven't played a real team... they don't have any quality wins...

I'm not saying we're going to win the SB this year. Our coaches aren't in the same class as the team of coaches that took the Patriots to their first Championship. I'm just saying.

Our team needs to be focused on learning to play the game the way the coaches are teaching them to play the game(defensively they need to learn to play the way a good coach would teach them).

Wins are nice...... but the big picture is more important.

As long as we don't get embarrassed the way we did in Pittsburgh & Tennessee, I'm happy as long as we continue to improve.

Hervoyel
10-19-2008, 10:20 PM
iam happy right now tho i did think going into the season we could hang with the elite teams


but now ill just say we are a middle of teh pack team

I disagree on that. I think we're at the top of the lower end teams. We beat Detroit today like a drum and then let them right back into the game and by the fourth quarter we were right where we usually are hoping the other team wouldn't be able to pull it off and many of us thinking our defense was going to lose the game for us. Cincinnati might just roll into town next week and win if we aren't careful.

I am completely happy that we won today. It doesn't change the fact that we got up 21-3 and started playing like we were planning on sitting on the lead for nearly three quarters of a football game. Who didn't see the team just kind of shift-down into protect the 18 point lead mode? We should have broken 30 points and the Lions shouldn't have been anywhere near 20.

NBT
10-19-2008, 10:31 PM
Hervoyel, I love your sig line --too, too true. Fire Richard smith's ass NOW!!! Do that and it would improve this team by at least 2 wins this year.

Norg
10-20-2008, 12:29 AM
I disagree on that. I think we're at the top of the lower end teams. We beat Detroit today like a drum and then let them right back into the game and by the fourth quarter we were right where we usually are hoping the other team wouldn't be able to pull it off and many of us thinking our defense was going to lose the game for us. Cincinnati might just roll into town next week and win if we aren't careful.

I am completely happy that we won today. It doesn't change the fact that we got up 21-3 and started playing like we were planning on sitting on the lead for nearly three quarters of a football game. Who didn't see the team just kind of shift-down into protect the 18 point lead mode? We should have broken 30 points and the Lions shouldn't have been anywhere near 20.

Yeah thats what i was going to say we are the KINGS of the loser teams

its pretty much been that way for 6 years