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DiehardChris
10-17-2008, 02:32 PM
He'll be replaced on the roster by Dunta.

Crap. I thought Slaton/Taylor had potential as a combo once Green goes down.

Chris Taylor to IR, Dunta off PUP (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6064459.html)

Polo
10-17-2008, 02:35 PM
I think the RB competition next yr may be a little stiff...

gtexan02
10-17-2008, 02:37 PM
I'm guessing Taylor will be cut. He has never shown anything in the regular season, except for that one single game against Cleveland (meaningless game at the end of the season). He will have spent 2 consecutive year on IR with no or minimal game day experience.

Brandon420tx
10-17-2008, 02:45 PM
ah nuts

The Pencil Neck
10-17-2008, 02:53 PM
Wow.

Just.

Wow.

Nawzer
10-17-2008, 02:57 PM
Welcome back Darius Walker?

nero THE zero
10-17-2008, 02:57 PM
I'm guessing Taylor will be cut. He has never shown anything in the regular season, except for that one single game against Cleveland (meaningless game at the end of the season). He will have spent 2 consecutive year on IR with no or minimal game day experience.

I was thinking about that earlier today. I think he had his opporutnity and missed it. I'm sure the only reason he's hung on thus far is for lack of a better option.

Texecutioner
10-17-2008, 03:02 PM
Add him to the banged up RB bunch and can him after the season. He hasn't ever done anything as a Texan. All we've heard about is how much Kubiak likes the guy, but he sure as hell has never done anything but have like one good game.

TexanSam
10-17-2008, 03:04 PM
Add him to the banged up RB bunch and can him after the season. He hasn't ever done anything as a Texan. All we've heard about is how much Kubiak likes the guy, but he sure as hell has never done anything but have like one good game.

Yeah, there were a lot of Chris Taylor fans everywhere after that one game against the Browns. He was much overhyped

J-Russ
10-17-2008, 03:05 PM
And so the Ryan Moats era begins....

Texecutioner
10-17-2008, 03:05 PM
Yeah, there were a lot of Chris Taylor fans everywhere after that one game against the Browns. He was much overhyped

Why does that not suprise me?

Seņor Stan
10-17-2008, 03:05 PM
ah nuts

No, that was Kellen Winslow, Jr.

Taylor hurt his quad.

Thorn
10-17-2008, 03:18 PM
Does anyone here think we'll draft another RB next year? LOL

Texecutioner
10-17-2008, 03:20 PM
Does anyone here think we'll draft another RB next year? LOL

We need to. We probably won't until the laster rounds though. I strongly hope that they might try and get a good back up in free agency.

We might not have any other choice then to go after defense in the first few rounds if things continue to look they way they have.

DiehardChris
10-17-2008, 03:22 PM
I like Chris Taylor, so I guess I'm one of his fans... but yeah, it's not like he hasn't had a chance.

Thorn
10-17-2008, 03:26 PM
We need to. We probably won't until the laster rounds though. I strongly hope that they might try and get a good back up in free agency.

We might not have any other choice then to go after defense in the first few rounds if things continue to look they way they have.

Going for defense in the first couple of rounds makes a LOT of sense to me. I would like to see them get a DE, OLB, and a safety or corner in the first three rounds. The problem though, is there is help still needed on the O line and we need that RB.

mexican_texan
10-17-2008, 03:26 PM
And so the Ryan Moats era begins....
Sit back, enjoy the ride, and keep all limbs inside the couch.

barrett
10-17-2008, 03:26 PM
regardless of what his talent level may or may not have been, the fact is, he couldn't stay on the field and if you can't stay healthy, you're gonna get cut. i can promise you, if he isn't cut, he'll be at the very bottom of the depth chart. i was and am a taylor fan.

barrett
10-17-2008, 03:29 PM
Going for defense in the first couple of rounds makes a LOT of sense to me. I would like to see them get a DE, OLB, and a safety or corner in the first three rounds. The problem though, is there is help still needed on the O line and we need that RB.

i seriously doubt you'll see them drafting a corner. baring injury, all 3 of our current stable + dunta coming back suggest a real strength right now. if bennett develops and faggins continues to play well we've got a pretty deep secondary. Reeves is all over his guy all game. he has trouble playing the ball but he has great skills and would make a terrific 5 and dime.

ideally i'd love to see bennett develop into a solid 2 and faggins and reeves as nickle and dime!

texanhead08
10-17-2008, 04:46 PM
Best player available in 1st round after that look at needs.

Malloy
10-17-2008, 04:50 PM
Who knows, if Green stays healthy and grinds out yards for the remainder of the season, he might be back next year ;)

Carr Bombed
10-17-2008, 06:36 PM
Taylor's done........he most likely has already played his last down as a Houston Texan.

I like the future we have with Slaton, but we do need to find a banger in the draft.

Andrew6
10-17-2008, 08:43 PM
samkon or darius hmmmmm . . . welcome back klingon walker

Hervoyel
10-17-2008, 09:12 PM
Yeah, there were a lot of Chris Taylor fans everywhere after that one game against the Browns. He was much overhyped

There were a lot of Chris Taylor fans before that game against the Browns and there was a fairly common belief around here that Taylor might have been that out-of-nowhere steal that Kubiak and Smith were hopefully going to find.

The injury that put him on IR the first time could not have come at a worse time for Taylor. There was a window there where the Texans needed a young back to emerge in order to avoid the worst effects of the Ahman Green deal and Taylor was the back that I think the Texans thought could step up. Instead he stepped onto IR and missed 2007. This summer he didn't look like the same player to me. He looked like a guy who was a year removed from playing any football. He looked hesitant and a step slower. With Walker emerging as a workmanlike backup and Slaton showing that he has feature back potential I think the window may have indeed closed on Chris Taylor getting any traction here. He goes on IR now, maybe returns in camp but if the Texans add one more quality back then Taylor is done here.

BattleRedToro
10-17-2008, 09:39 PM
I would like to see the Texans draft a power back in next year's draft. By that I mean a guy that can really move the pile and excel in short yardage situations. A different kind of "change of pace" running back.

Malloy
10-18-2008, 04:28 AM
The injury that put him on IR the first time could not have come at a worse time for Taylor. There was a window there where the Texans needed a young back to emerge in order to avoid the worst effects of the Ahman Green deal and Taylor was the back that I think the Texans thought could step up.

Thank god for Dayne :)

I know people will probably call me insane, but I would like to see what Morency could do with our ZBS. All that backfield dancing could easily be coached into a one-cut and go :)

Scooter
10-18-2008, 04:49 AM
i think you had it right with your first line. slaton has 2 flaws in his professional game, he has ZERO leg drive and he's considered a fragile back that you dont want to hand off to 20+ times a game. i guess i'm a glutton for punishment but "ronnie" fills both bills. ron dayne IMO is absolutely perfect for our offense between the 30's and to finish games. those 5-10 carries per game are everything wrong with our offense ... for what it's worth i trust dayne more than green - fill the void, do the job. at 4.0 ypc with a lesser line on the texans i'm looking forward to the arguement (though i'm also a proponent of babin because he had results, so i'll take criticism).

see sig.

Malloy
10-18-2008, 05:12 AM
see sig.

I only trust people who drink :)

Scooter
10-18-2008, 05:39 AM
lol thanks.

GuerillaBlack
10-18-2008, 09:49 AM
Welcome back Darius Walker?

I hope. Darius wasn't half bad in the games he played last year.

I would like to see the Texans draft a power back in next year's draft. By that I mean a guy that can really move the pile and excel in short yardage situations. A different kind of "change of pace" running back.

Same. I want us to get a Marion Barber type back.

Vinny
10-18-2008, 10:40 AM
This franchise should have picked up S Alexander or C Benson when they were on the open market if you axe me.

ObsiWan
10-18-2008, 10:50 AM
This franchise should have picked up S Alexander or C Benson when they were on the open market if you axe me.

where's the sarcasm sign?

ChampionTexan
10-18-2008, 10:58 AM
Barring an injury to Slaton and/or Green (yeah - I know), why would anybody think that Walker is going to be a bigger part of the offense because of this?

He was waived at the end of the preseason, added to the practice squad because nobody else in the NFL wanted him either, and only added back to the active roster when Green got hurt in game 1. Since then, we've IR'd Taylor, but we've also added Cecil Sapp (who, as opposed to Walker, contributes on special teams). Walker's been on the roster for four out of five games, and he has yet to get a carry - even though in each one of those four games either Taylor or Green was inactive due to injury. I don't think he's even stepped on the field yet. And to top it all off, the fact that Kubes has cut him twice indicates that he might not have the highest opinion of Mr. Walker.

The Pencil Neck
10-18-2008, 01:22 PM
This franchise should have picked up S Alexander or C Benson when they were on the open market if you axe me.

I think both of those guys are toast. Alexander's done. Benson looked like crap in his first game back and I don't think it was rust.

ObsiWan
10-18-2008, 03:26 PM
I think both of those guys are toast. Alexander's done. Benson looked like crap in his first game back and I don't think it was rust.

Vinny wasn't serious....
...was he??

Vinny
10-18-2008, 04:19 PM
sure I was and I've mentioned this many times even though it isn't popular opinion (running with the pack/herd isn't my style anyhoo)...For instance a guy with Benson's bodytpye is Stephen Davis....Stephen Davis didn't make a mark till year 4 in the league and then he led the league in rushing for 3 or 4 years. Benson has an NFL body and backs don't need to be super braniac guy. I don't think it hurts to take shots at guys off the wire who have an NFL bodytype and enough of a skillset to be picked in the first round.

CloakNNNdagger
10-18-2008, 06:34 PM
sure I was and I've mentioned this many times even though it isn't popular opinion (running with the pack/herd isn't my style anyhoo)...For instance a guy with Benson's bodytpye is Stephen Davis....Stephen Davis didn't make a mark till year 4 in the league and then he led the league in rushing for 3 or 4 years. Benson has an NFL body and backs don't need to be super braniac guy. I don't think it hurts to take shots at guys off the wire who have an NFL bodytype and enough of a skillset to be picked in the first round.

I would have also taken a chance on Benson. He can at least push the middle with brute stength. He's virtually tackle-proof by a lone tackler. If he gets open space, he doesn't have great speed.............but a locomotive doesn't need that either getting where it needs to get. In college he always got stronger as the game went on, and he was a decent not great blocker who could also be called on to catch the ball.

ObsiWan
10-18-2008, 07:33 PM
Well, maybe you saw something in Benson I didn't. All I know was when the Bears gave him a chance to be "the man" he couldn't answer the bell. And no one around the league would take Shawn Alexander because the word on him is that he runs "soft". And I'm not sure how well either guy would adapt to this zone blocking scheme we're using. Add to that the fact that neither guy has ever been considered "outstanding" in pass protection - at least not that I've ever seen.

Back to topic, I was a Chris Taylor fan during the OTAs of '07. He just looked better than anyone else. Then he got hurt. Like others have said, he just didn't have the same explosiveness this year as he showed before the injury. I'm afraid this IR move might mean Kubiak has decided to move on. He may get a look next spring, but he better come up real strong.

Hervoyel
10-18-2008, 08:32 PM
The Texans are running the ball "Denver Style" now and I have heard nothing since Terrell Davis was tearing up the league except how any reasonably capable back can be plugged into this system and be effective. I have seen back, after back, after back do exactly that. I saw Ron Dayne who had never experienced 4 yards a carry or better before going to Denver average 5.1 yards a carry there and then 4.1 and 4 in two years in our red headed stepchild version of it.

But Alexander and Benson had nothing to offer us? Neither of them were capable of coming in here and playing at even a reasonably capable level?

Water under the bridge. I would have given Benson a shot. I'd have given Alexander a tryout too. Hell I'd have brought back Ron Dayne if he wanted to come back and I'm of the opinion that he'd be playing the best football of his career right now alongside Slaton.

As long as Ahman Green stays healthy it's all a moot point and I like what we have going on back there. The minute that Ahman Green goes down for the season I'm going to ***** loud and often about how stupid it was to keep him around while ignoring other options.

threetoedpete
10-18-2008, 11:17 PM
Best player available in 1st round after that look at needs.

Every year we get the WR in the first round and the RB in the first round projections . Not going to happen. They have to get someone who can bring pressure besides Mario. Now whether that's a will backer or another DE, first or second round..I dunno. What I do know is when they send five or six no one...and I mean no one, on the current roster can get there. Not some of the time. Not most of the time. All the time. And that has been going on for six years now. They need to slam dunk that need this off season.

The Pencil Neck
10-19-2008, 12:17 AM
Every year we get the WR in the first round and the RB in the first round projections . Not going to happen. They have to get someone who can bring pressure besides Mario. Now whether that's a will backer or another DE, first or second round..I dunno. What I do know is when they send five or six no one...and I mean no one, on the current roster can get there. Not some of the time. Not most of the time. All the time. And that has been going on for six years now. They need to slam dunk that need this off season.

I'm The Pencil Neck and I approve this message.

I'm hoping they put Dunta in as a nickle and blitz him. He's been successful with that in the past... but Smith hasn't blitzed Robinson much (or successfully) in his tenure.

But in the next draft, we need to get someone else coming off the edge. Preferably a Will LB. I was hoping that Adibi might be that man this year but he's been sick and injured the entire time and I'm afraid he's behind in his development.

ObsiWan
10-19-2008, 03:23 AM
Orakpo looks pretty good. He probably won't last past the top ten though. And I'm thinking we won't be drafting any higher than we did this past draft.

Of course, that will drive the RB-lovers crazy.

GP
10-19-2008, 09:11 AM
Going for defense in the first couple of rounds makes a LOT of sense to me. I would like to see them get a DE, OLB, and a safety or corner in the first three rounds. The problem though, is there is help still needed on the O line and we need that RB.

I agree with this post. 100%.

We need defensive players in the worst way, especially in the secondary and I'm split on DE or LB with the other pick.

We can go RB in round 3 and pick up a solid back-up who might even press for splitting carries or possibly push for the top role.

If we return all our guys on offense, it's looking good. But the defense is not there yet. Bulman, if he continues to produce, can nail down the other DE position. That makes our DL pretty OK--not great, but not bad, either. It at least allows us to focus on the LB and DB positions.

GP
10-19-2008, 09:17 AM
I would have also taken a chance on Benson. He can at least push the middle with brute stength. He's virtually tackle-proof by a lone tackler. If he gets open space, he doesn't have great speed.............but a locomotive doesn't need that either getting where it needs to get. In college he always got stronger as the game went on, and he was a decent not great blocker who could also be called on to catch the ball.

I would have taken a shot at Benson, too.

He's the perfect compliment to Slaton...a slightly smaller version of Ron Dayne. Ahman Green is not going to be standing at the end of the season, and it's just a matter of "when" and not a matter of "if."

I guess the decision-makers for the Texans just thought Benson was not worth the potential drama and headache(s). I can understand it, but I can also understand that we could sign him to a friendly number and cut him if he's being an arse too much.

But alas, the duct-tape and baling-wired RB system continues on...

Thorn
10-19-2008, 09:45 AM
Bulman, if he continues to produce, can nail down the other DE position. That makes our DL pretty OK--not great, but not bad, either.

When we talk about someone like Bulman improving our DE position, what we are really saying is how little we think of Weaver. LOL

GP
10-19-2008, 01:57 PM
When we talk about someone like Bulman improving our DE position, what we are really saying is how little we think of Weaver. LOL

Bulman is producing what we expected Weaver to produce at the very minimum. Bulman has pretty much reached Weaver's ceiling, and I think he'll go above it within this season.

Weaver has just been a huge let-down for what he was expected to provide.