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Ali4Real
10-16-2008, 11:03 PM
How many sacks do you think Mario Williams (or any other defensive player...please name in your response) will have against the Lions QB?

I predict 4.5 considering how horrible there offensive line is.

:fans:

Tedc
10-16-2008, 11:11 PM
5 sacks by the super one.

mexican_texan
10-16-2008, 11:11 PM
I'll put five bucks on under.

Double Barrel
10-16-2008, 11:16 PM
Since you asked how many do I think Mario will have, I voted 2+.

Obviously, I would have voted much higher if the question was how many do I hope he gets. :mario3:

disaacks3
10-16-2008, 11:18 PM
I'd have gone w/ 2....though I WANT 4. :marionaner::mario2::mario3:

Kaiser Toro
10-16-2008, 11:19 PM
Since you did not have too many to count plus infinity, I went with too many to count.

Vinnie
10-16-2008, 11:24 PM
I'm thinking two+ is a pretty safe bet.

TheRealJoker
10-16-2008, 11:37 PM
Thinking about it I think Mario will get 1-1.5. The suprise of this game will come from the interior DL's pressure which is why I think this is Amobi's breakout game:

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54573

Lions have a capable LT in Jeff Backus, Gosder Cherilus is a road grader at RT but falls short in pass protection especially when he'll be matched up with Mario.

Lions should shift their protections to whichever side Mario lines up to try and slow him down opening up opportunities for the rest of the DL. Without the RB/FB staying inside the interior, Amobi and friends should be able to blow right through the swiss cheese interior OL and make Orlovsky run to the tunnel.

threetoedpete
10-17-2008, 02:29 AM
What would be great is having a break out game From Okoye. He's been flushing the QB out for Mario to mop up. Be nice to see him dominate and take over a game.

I thought Erick Winston played an excellent game last week. I hope he gets some love when the pro bowl ballots come out.

CloakNNNdagger
10-17-2008, 08:37 AM
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Dan Orlovsky Grade: 3.46
Position: QB
Class: Sr
School: Connecticut
Conference: Big East
Ht., Wt.: 6-5, 225
40 Time: 5.02
Selected by: Detroit Lions
Round 5, pick 9 (145 overall) Grading System



BIO: Passing numbers included 63 percent/3,354/23/15 as a senior after 62.5 percent/3,485/33/14 the prior year. Totaled seven 300-yards games the past two seasons.

POSITIVES: Well-sized pocket passer with a big arm and solid intangibles. Sets up with solid footwork, displays good pocket stature and patiently waits for receivers to come open. Sells the ball fakes, possesses a quick release and zips the outs. Leads wideouts or hits them in stride over the middle and displays solid timing on the outs. Goes to the safety outlet if nothing is available downfield. Commands the offense and does not make poor choices. Senses the rush, stepping up to avoid defenders. Powers the ball over the middle and places it where only his receivers can make the reception.

NEGATIVES: Slow setting up in the pocket. Steps out of throws, which adversely affects his accuracy. Directs his passes and gets wild at times. Not always poised under pressure. Gathers before releasing the ball. Must improve his downfield accuracy. Performed poorly at the Senior Bowl and was worse at the Combine.

ANALYSIS: Productive throughout his college career, Orlovsky possesses the size, arm strength, and intangibles to develop into a starting quarterback at the next level. Needs to brush up the fundamentals and quickly get his game back on track. A solid late-round pick who can develop on a practice squad or in NFL Europe.

PROJECTION: Late Fifth Round

************************************************** ***

He showed his poise and "awareness".............without pressure. [See Video of his Safety last week, retitled "Dumbest QB Ever!"] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aifulCRgQEw)

Although this is his 2005 SI Draft Profile (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2005/draft/players/57595.html), last week did nothing to dispell any of the negatives. I would not be surprise to see Mario with 3 sacks, Okoye with 1........and some INTs sprinkled into the mix.

HJam72
10-17-2008, 08:41 AM
3.5

Big day.

Team sacks: 6.

PS-Don't expect THOSE kind of numbers to continue all season.

Malloy
10-17-2008, 09:07 AM
Pressed more than 4, but he'll 'only' get away with 4. :)

Buffi2
10-17-2008, 09:10 AM
I think Mario gets 3 sacks - I hope he gets at least 4 with Okoye chiming in with a few of his own.

If there is a time to shine this season - this be it for the defense. They have the opportunity to really dominate.

I'm hoping RS has a defensive stroke of genius moment or just gets out of the way.

Tedc
10-17-2008, 09:13 AM
Although this is his 2005 SI Draft Profile (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2005/draft/players/57595.html), last week did nothing to dispell any of the negatives. I would not be surprise to see Mario with 3 sacks, Okoye with 1........and some INTs sprinkled into the mix.

I wouldn't mind if the Texans sprinkled on the Lions.

TexanAddict
10-17-2008, 01:44 PM
Sorry, I don't want to jinx it, but it should be a few

bah007
10-17-2008, 01:46 PM
At least 18.

No doubt about it.

gtexan02
10-17-2008, 01:53 PM
If history this season is an indication. He'll get 2

IlliniJen
10-17-2008, 01:59 PM
Oh my goodness, I can't wait to watch Mario in this game. I guess 3.

buddyboy
10-17-2008, 02:38 PM
I have a feeling we're setting ourselves up for disappointment. With that said, 1 sack for MW, just to keep expectations low.

brakos82
10-17-2008, 03:29 PM
2.5 sacks for Mario, 1 for Okoye, 1.5 somewhere else...

Wolf
10-17-2008, 03:42 PM
one sack for mario is my guess

YellerLotYeller
10-17-2008, 04:08 PM
He needs to get atleast 2 to try and seperate himself from everyone else with 6.

Rk Player Team Pos Total Solo Ast Sck
1 John Abraham ATL DE 17 16 1 7.0
2 James Harrison PIT OLB 31 22 9 6.5
2 Joey Porter MIA OLB 19 12 7 6.5
4 Aaron Kampman GB DE 23 19 4 6.0
4 DeMarcus Ware DAL OLB 32 26 6 6.0
4 Kevin Williams MIN DT 29 22 7 6.0
4 Mario Williams HOU DE 20 15 5 6.0

texanhead08
10-17-2008, 05:47 PM
I just said more than 2 I dont want to be greedy. I would settle for one of those safeties though.

brakos82
10-17-2008, 06:00 PM
I just said more than 2 I dont want to be greedy. I would settle for one of those safeties though.
But who do we give the safety to on the stat sheet? :thinking:

CTWade
10-17-2008, 06:07 PM
My brain tells me Mario should have a good tell. But years of watching Texans football taught me to always expect the worse will happen. I picked zero.

imatexan
10-17-2008, 06:19 PM
My brain tells me Mario should have a good tell. But years of watching Texans football taught me to always expect the worse will. I picked zero.

You broke the 0 count!

Giant Tiger
10-17-2008, 10:04 PM
I say 3 :fireball: :d:

BattleRedToro
10-17-2008, 10:31 PM
Don't be surprised if Bulman or Cochran get some sacks as well.

TexansLucky13
10-17-2008, 10:47 PM
I'm guessing 4.5.... seriously.

Norg
10-17-2008, 11:28 PM
u know there going to double team him or maybe even triple

so there will be alot of open slots for the other guyz

Corrosion
10-18-2008, 12:25 AM
I think MW will get .... multiple sacks against that poor excuse for an NFL team .... Unless the QB runs out of the back of the endzone a few times.

ObsiWan
10-18-2008, 01:32 AM
I think MW will get .... multiple sacks against that poor excuse for an NFL team .... Unless the QB runs out of the back of the endzone a few times.

Slightly off-topic but I was wondering... when Mr. O ran out of the back of the endzone, was that a sack? If so, who got credit for it?

YellerLotYeller
10-18-2008, 02:10 AM
Slightly off-topic but I was wondering... when Mr. O ran out of the back of the endzone, was that a sack? If so, who got credit for it?

Unforced error....game-set-match

TexansLucky13
10-18-2008, 02:25 AM
Unforced error....game-set-match

Whereas when Mario pulls him to the ground 4 times on Sunday, it will be considered forced terror!!

:fireball:

Topher
10-18-2008, 02:38 AM
Slightly off-topic but I was wondering... when Mr. O ran out of the back of the endzone, was that a sack? If so, who got credit for it?

I think Jared Allen got credit for that sack.

BattleRedToro
10-18-2008, 07:26 AM
I think Jared Allen got credit for that sack.

I don't believe anyone got credit for a sack, but I know that Jared Allen got credit for a safety, so if anyone did get credit for a sack I'm sure it would have been Allen. I'm just not sure they award a sack whenever the QB was never downed.

CloakNNNdagger
10-18-2008, 10:52 AM
Just came across a very interesting stat:

In the last two years, Williams, who is coming off back-to-back multi-sack games, has 20 sacks. Williams has also accounted for 52.6% of his team's total sacks, the only player in the league to account for more than half of his team's sacks.

False Start
10-18-2008, 11:30 AM
I'll go with four. Two for Mario, and two for the rest of the team.

Ryan
10-18-2008, 11:32 AM
I say 2 or 3. I'm hoping for 8 or more though!:fans:

ObsiWan
10-18-2008, 11:38 AM
Actually, I hope he has a bunch of "hurries" so that Opps-lovsky throws a bunch of picks
:D
for the record though, I voted 2+

Corrosion
10-18-2008, 11:40 AM
Slightly off-topic but I was wondering... when Mr. O ran out of the back of the endzone, was that a sack? If so, who got credit for it?

I assume it would be and you would have to credit the closest defender ?

CloakNNNdagger
10-18-2008, 01:52 PM
I assume it would be and you would have to credit the closest defender ?

Exactly. Even though it was a "passive" sack because of the the self-inflicted safety, J. Allen, as the closest defender, was credited with the sack.

The Pencil Neck
10-18-2008, 02:39 PM
Slightly off-topic but I was wondering... when Mr. O ran out of the back of the endzone, was that a sack? If so, who got credit for it?

Yes. Jared Allen was the nearest Viking and got credited with the sack. Allen was actually unblocked on the play and was going to sack him if he didn't get rid of the ball quick.

ObsiWan
10-18-2008, 03:37 PM
Yes. Jared Allen was the nearest Viking and got credited with the sack. Allen was actually unblocked on the play and was going to sack him if he didn't get rid of the ball quick.

easiest sack in the history of football.
even easier than Strahan's "sack" of Brett Favre that time.

3rd and Inches
10-18-2008, 03:39 PM
My guess is.. *knocks on wood*.. that Mario will rack up 2 or 3 sacks against Detroit..

CTWade
10-19-2008, 07:09 PM
88 people voted. 1 got it right. Me. Yay me.

Pessimism wins again.

Malloy
10-19-2008, 07:13 PM
I came close. 4 is close to zero right ?

HJam72
10-19-2008, 08:50 PM
I came close. 4 is close to zero right ?

Close enough. Just a little difference there. :thisbig:

Ryan
10-19-2008, 09:33 PM
I don't think Mario was "right" today. He seemed mentally out of it, or it might be that he was a little down physically. It was strange though.

Norg
10-19-2008, 09:45 PM
ZERO sacks WOW

might i add the stadium was only half filled and the crowd was dead has always

Houston fans are so mellow ...LOL :texflag:

HJam72
10-19-2008, 09:53 PM
Houston fans are so mellow ...LOL :texflag:

It's the chemical plants. :mcnugget:

TheRealJoker
10-19-2008, 09:58 PM
I don't think Mario was "right" today. He seemed mentally out of it, or it might be that he was a little down physically. It was strange though.

Mario didn't play bad, he got pressure at some points and made some good plays in the run. Just didn't finish with a sack. On the plus side 2 guys not named Mario got sacks so that's a positive.

El Tejano
10-20-2008, 11:17 AM
Mario didn't play bad, he got pressure at some points and made some good plays in the run. Just didn't finish with a sack. On the plus side 2 guys not named Mario got sacks so that's a positive.

Just like Mario's two sacks last week vs. Miami, which were a result of Bulman's pressure, Bulman got a sack as a result of Mario's pressure. This is how pressuring the quarterback starts. When you opponent has to pick their poison when blocking us.

disaacks3
10-20-2008, 11:25 AM
ZERO sacks WOW

might i add the stadium was only half filled and the crowd was dead has always

Houston fans are so mellow ...LOL :texflag: Not sure which game YOU were at...

We had 40-45K+ there - we were OVER half capacity. The crowd wasn't even CLOSE to dead in the first half, though they were slugs in the 3rd quarter for certain...even in the Bull Pen.

Props to :awtysst, CTWade, New_Texans - Dead on w/ ZERO in their predictions.