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wags
12-27-2004, 12:18 AM
Just thought I would start a thread where we could announce word on underclassmen who are entering the draft or staying in school:

Some who are staying:

Orien Harris (DT) Miami
Winston Justice (LT) Miami
Gabe Watson (DT) Michigan
Verand Morency (RB) OSU

Leaving:

Troy Williamson (WR) SC
Ciatrick Fason (RB) UF
Rian Wallace (LB) Temple
Chris Henry (WR) WV
Pac Man Jones (CB) WV
T.A. McClendon (RB) NCST

ColdSteelBlue
12-27-2004, 01:28 AM
Just thought I would start a thread where we could announce word on underclassmen who are entering the draft or staying in school:

Some who are staying:

Orien Harris (DT) Miami
Winston Justice (LT) Miami
Gabe Watson (DT) Michigan
Verand Morency (RB) OSU

Leaving:

Troy Williamson (WR) SC
Ciatrick Fason (RB) UF
Rian Wallace (LB) Temple
Chris Henry (WR) WV
Pac Man Jones (CB) WV
T.A. McClendon (RB) NCST

Justice -LT plays for USC. You must mean Eric Winston- LT miami

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
12-27-2004, 03:12 AM
http://www.draftshowcase.com/underclassmen.htm

ArlingtonTexan
12-27-2004, 06:00 AM
Justice -LT plays for USC. You must mean Eric Winston- LT miami

Justice LT USC
Winston LT Miami

both can be on the list.

wags
12-27-2004, 01:44 PM
Looks like you can add Alex Smith (QB) Utah to the list of players leaving.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/nn05.html

ColdSteelBlue
12-27-2004, 11:14 PM
Justice LT USC
Winston LT Miami

both can be on the list.


I doubt E. Winston will leave. He is a STUD, but injured his knee earlier this year.

cj5776
12-27-2004, 11:29 PM
I can't think of his name but Longhorns have a stud Nose G, perfect pick to be groomed by S Payne. Anybody know if he is staying or going?

wags
12-27-2004, 11:29 PM
I doubt E. Winston will leave. He is a STUD, but injured his knee earlier this year.

E. Winston is staying.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
12-28-2004, 05:06 PM
12/28/04

*Utah QB Alex Smith hinted at the Fiesta Bowl press conference that he is leaning towards the draft. 3rd year sophomore WR Steve Savoy is apparently considering the draft as well.

*Rian Wallace is in and his teammate, QB Walter Washington apparently is leaning towards entering as well.

*Virginia OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson has made it pretty clear he plans to return. Teammates Daryl Blackstock and Ahmad Brooks are also expected to return.

*Tennessee coaches appear confident that FS/CB Jason Allen will be returning to the Vols next year.

*Oklahoma State RB Vernand Morency has decided he will return to the Cowboys next season.

http://www.draftshowcase.com/underclassmen.htm

ArlingtonTexan
12-29-2004, 05:08 PM
I doubt E. Winston will leave. He is a STUD, but injured his knee earlier this year.

i was talking about the staying list...think both have done so publicly, did not mean to confuse.

J-Man
12-29-2004, 08:27 PM
Does anyone know if Jaxson Appel is thinking of coming out as a JR? That kid is a tackling machine...he would be a good pick-up in the middle rounds. He might be better suited to SS in the long run but he would probably be an immediate positive impact on special teams and a solid back-up for Coleman.

ArlingtonTexan
12-29-2004, 08:43 PM
Does anyone know if Jaxson Appel is thinking of coming out as a JR? That kid is a tackling machine...he would be a good pick-up in the middle rounds. He might be better suited to SS in the long run but he would probably be an immediate positive impact on special teams and a solid back-up for Coleman.

Most likely not, the middle round good football players, but not great athlete types usually stay all 4 years.

Errant Hothy
12-29-2004, 08:46 PM
Marion Barber III said he was returning to Minn next year. Be warned this is a second hand source, but I trust it.

texasguy346
12-30-2004, 02:43 PM
Morency could still leave if his coach leaves to take the LSU job, but he alluded before the Alamo Bowl that he'd be staying.

texansfan88
12-30-2004, 03:27 PM
talked to mathias kiwanuka about a week ago and he's still waiting on his nfl evaluation back before he makes his decision, so don't buy into the boston globe just yet.

TexansCanes
12-30-2004, 06:23 PM
wags, whats the word on davis and thurman, have they made up their mind or are they waiting till after the outback?

wags
12-30-2004, 06:44 PM
wags, whats the word on davis and thurman, have they made up their mind or are they waiting till after the outback?

They haven't decided yet. I think their waiting till after the game. Richt probably doesn't want any distractions.

DC ROCK posted a link in the 3 A.M. thread, and in it Davis says he's more go than stay right now.

http://media.theinsiders.com/media/promo/mag/georgia.jpg

texasguy346
12-31-2004, 12:29 PM
For everyone interested in Ciatrick Fason the RB out of Florida you should definately watch him and the Gators face off against Miami tonight in the Peach Bowl. I believe it starts at around 6:30 or 7 tonight.

TexansCanes
01-02-2005, 02:36 AM
for miami, frank gore is almost certain to come out. i think his mother is quoted saying that he will probabaly leave. a surprise is that roscoe parrish is thinking of coming out. he said something about it before the peach bowl and was talking about it even more after. lb roger macintosh who was thinking of coming out has decided to stay for his sr. and to improve his draft status. he is a physical freak big, strong, and fast (4.5) i don't have a quote or link to confirm, but this is the word on the miami message board.

TexansCanes
01-02-2005, 02:57 AM
http://www.wqam.com/index.php?page=65&storyid=71

maybe we should forget what i said about gore, according to an atl radio sation he is going to stay. i think it also has to do with what the draft advisory board has to say (frank said he would go if he is a 1st or 2nd) and if he is able to get insured for next season. we will know by jan 15

Grid
01-02-2005, 03:17 AM
What about Ahmad Brooks out of Virginia?

hes a sophmore, but ive heard so much talk about him and how he might be out in this years draft, that Im assuming he is eligible to declare.

He could be an awesome grab for us at ILB.

Lucky
01-03-2005, 05:45 PM
OK State RB Vernand Morency is entering the NFL draft (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1958307).
Just hours after Miles was introduced as the new LSU head coach, star tailback Vernand Morency said he will forgo his senior season with the Cowboys to enter the NFL draft. The third-leading rusher in the Big 12 this season, Morency already has submitted his paperwork to the NFL and has signed a standard representation agreement with agents Drew and Jason Rosenhaus of Miami.
Thank you, Vernand. More Juniors, please.

wags
01-03-2005, 05:50 PM
OK State RB Vernand Morency is entering the NFL draft (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1958307).

Thank you, Vernand. More Juniors, please.

Wow, he changed his mind. I guess a new coach will do that to you. BTW, I think Max Jean-Gilles is going pro also. He plays G/T for Georgia.

D-ReK
01-03-2005, 06:08 PM
Anyone know if D'Brick is coming out? During one of the Virginia games, the commentators were saying that all of Virginia's underclassmen would be staying to make a run at a national championship...Not too sure if this is still the case though...

wags
01-03-2005, 06:45 PM
Aaron Rogers has declared for the draft. Fabain Washington(Nebraska CB) and Ryan Moats(RB LA Tech) declared also.

Huge
01-03-2005, 07:53 PM
Good. Get to see Rodgers get his butt kicked by NFL talent next year.

wags
01-04-2005, 04:06 PM
Thomas Davis has officially declared, and Matt Leinart is rumored to have entered also.

TexansCanes
01-04-2005, 04:14 PM
alex smith declared as well

texasguy346
01-05-2005, 04:58 AM
Here's the link to the Thomas Davis story. I'm sure many people are glad to hear he declared.

ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1959156)

texasguy346
01-05-2005, 05:21 AM
Speaking of Georgia players I had a question regarding their TE Leonard Pope. Wags you seem to be the Georgia expert so I'll direct the question to you. I know that Pope is only a sophmore this season, but I believe he's already eligible for the NFL Draft. Am I mistaken? Also, is he giving any real consideration to leaving early? I was pretty impressed with him, and I thought he could be a good pickup early in the second day or possibly late 3rd round.

texasguy346
01-05-2005, 05:27 AM
Here's a list of all those underclassmen that have declared for the 2005 NFL Draft courtesy of the Great Blue North Draft Report. Link (http://www.gbnreport.com/juniors.htm)


Aaron Rodgers QB 6-3, 220 California JR
Mike Williams WR 6-5, 230 Southern California JR
Thomas Davis FS 6-1, 220 Georgia JR
Fabian Washington CB 5-10, 180 Nebraska JR
Ciatrick Fason RB 6-1, 215 Florida JR
Vernand Morency RB 5-10, 215 Oklahoma State JR
Chris Henry WR 6-5, 210 West Virginia JR
Troy Williamson WR 6-1, 200 South Carolina JR
Ryan Moats RB 5-9, 205 Louisiana Tech JR
Rian Wallace LB 6-3, 245 Temple JR
T.A. McLendon RB 5-11, 225 North Carolina State JR
Maurice Clarett RB 5-10, 215 Ohio State Soph
Jovan Haye DE 6-3, 280 Vanderbilt JR
Larry Brackins WR 6-5, 220 Pearl River CC Soph
Matt Tant FB 5-11, 240 Vanderbilt JR
Peter Sands FS 6-2, 215 Central Florida JR

wags
01-05-2005, 11:27 AM
Speaking of Georgia players I had a question regarding their TE Leonard Pope.

He could come out because he went to a military school. I think he should stay in school though. He has really progressed throughout the season, but early on he looked bad. I still don't know if I can forgive him for a holding call against Tennessee that negated a kick return to the one yard line. We lost that game 19-14. :thud:

Eric Shelton(RB Louisville) has apparently decided to enter the draft.

wags
01-05-2005, 12:31 PM
Odell Thurman(ILB Georgia) has declared for the draft also.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1959484

wags
01-05-2005, 02:37 PM
Channing Crowder(ILB Florida) and Justin Miller(CB Clemson) have both declared for the draft.

wags
01-05-2005, 06:52 PM
Jonathan Scott(OT Texas) has said he's staying in school.

texasguy346
01-06-2005, 06:44 AM
Thanks for the info on Pope wags. I only got to see the Bulldogs play a few times this year, and most of the time I wasn't too concerned with the TE play. I noticed in their bowl game against Wisconsin that they left Pope all alone to block Erasmus James, and Pope did very well with that assignment. I know James wasn't 100%, but still it was impressive to see him handle one of the better college DEs.

Grid
01-06-2005, 07:14 AM
Eric Shelton.. the BIG rb out of Louisville declared. He could be available at our #2 pick.

Wolf
01-06-2005, 10:02 PM
What are some of the top Juniors thinking? Here's some dish.
1/7/05
*Brandon Browner finally made it official as he is leaving Oregon State for the NFL Draft. This adds more depth to an already great CB class. Browner currently is a late 1st-early 2nd Rounder, but could move up a little higher into the 1st Round after workouts.

1/6/05
*Miami WR Roscoe Parrish has made it official as he will enter the draft. This is a questionable move on his part, Parrish will likely be selected in the middle rounds, but should have immediate contributions as a return man.

*A new underclassman name has surfaced as Nebraska DT LeKevin Smith is considering following his teammate Fabian Washington to the pros. The 6'2, 310 lb junior would likely be a middle round selection.

*Oregon State's Brandon Browner was considered almost a sure thing to enter, but sources close to Browner say the recent rash of cornerbacks declaring may have pushed Browner towards coming back. But there are some conflicting reports floating that Browner may have alread decided to declare. No official word has been given yet though and this will be an interesting one to follow.

*Texas has already had Jonathan Scott stay, but sources close to Texas say they expect to lose at least one junior by the time this is all done. DT Rodrique Wright has made it pretty clear he's returning, so it looks as though the early defector could FS/CB Michael Huff.

1/5/05
*Texas OT Jonathan Scott was informed by the NFL office that he would be a 2nd Round selection. Thus, Scott has decided to remain at Texas for his senior season. He did not receive any details as to why he was graded as a 2nd Round pick. In a year where most of the top OTs are not left side candidates, Scott was generally preceived to be higher rated. He should be a top 10-15 player heading into next season.

*Michigan SS Ernest Shazor may have had some doubt creep in later in the year, but sources close to the Michigan program still say he is expected to leave. Teammate Marlin Jackson has been talking to Shazor about the benefits of coming back as has Leon Hall, but the feeling is that Shazor is still wanting to leave.

*Florida LB Channing Crowder has decided to enter the draft and ESPN is now reporting that another SEC LB, Georgia's Odell Thurman has as well.

*Some cornerbacks are apparently headed to the NFL, Clemson's Justin Miller has made it official as he has informed the Clemson coaches that he will be leaving. Two other highly regarded underclassmen, Virginia Tech's Jimmy Williams and Oregon State's Brandon Browner are both leaning towards entering the draft.

*We had previously reported that USC QB Matt Leinart had decided to leave. But reports out of California are now saying Leinart is leaning slightly towards staying for his senior season. I still believe that when it comes down to it, Leinart will ultimately choose the draft.

*Georgia FS Thomas Davis has finally made it official as he has declared for the draft. Teammate Max Jean-Giles is likely to follow Davis to the NFL, while LB Odell Thurman is still about 50/50.

*There have been several RBs declaring, now one more has decided as Louisville's Eric Shelton will enter the NFL Draft. This could scare off some RB prospects, although it is expected that DeAngelo Williams enter the draft and now according to the Miami Herald, Leon Washington may consider as well. However, Miami's Frank Gore says that unless he's a 1st Rounder, he's staying and it is unlikely the advisory committee will give him that evaluation. Gore's teammate Roscoe Parrish says he won't leave unless he's certain he'll go by the 4th Round.

*South Florida RB Andre Hall had applied to the advisory committee as well, but he has now stated that he will return to school.

*Maryland DE Shawne Merriman has long been reported to be leaning towards the draft and he has now made it official as he has declared for the draft.

*Expect an announcement either today or tomorrow that West Virginia CB PacMan Jones will enter the draft.

*A bit of a surprise as San Diego State WR Jeff Webb has applied to the advisory committee and he says he'll be leaving if there he is sure that he will be drafted.

*After winning the Orange Bowl, USC LB Lofa Tatupu is expected to enter the draft early. One junior who I am surprised has not been more interested in the draft in TE Dominique Byrd who could take advantage of a weaker TE class, but he apparently will return.


the rest of the page.
http://www.draftshowcase.com/underclassmen.htm

TexansCanes
01-07-2005, 01:07 AM
what do you guys think of roscoe? i think he could be a good pick in the 5th or 6th just because of what he can bring to this team as a returner. i like what jj moses can do but he doesn't have that second gear to take it to the house. he gets to the hole but gets caught from behind. moses isn't anything other than a returner, but roscoe, as he has showed this year, can be a decent wr. even if he isn't, i think he can be like a dante hall. he has 3 punts returned for td sharing time with devin hester.

wags
01-07-2005, 02:09 PM
Frank Gore has declared for the draft.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
01-07-2005, 02:12 PM
Name Position Year School HT WT 40 Round
Matthew Tant FB Junior Vanderbilt 6'0 240 4.70 4-6
Rian Wallace OLB Junior Temple 6'3 240 4.65 1-2
Jovan Haye DE Junior Vanderbilt 6'2 270 4.80 4-5
Larry Brackins WR Junior Peral River CC 6'4 221 4.46 5-6
Ciatrick Fason RB Junior Florida 6'0 220 4.50 2
Peter Sands FS Senior* Central Florida 6'3 230 4.65 FA
T.A. McLendon RB Junior NC State 5'11 215 4.45 3-4
Alex Smith QB Junior Utah 6'4 212 4.68 1-2
Chris Henry WR Junior West Virginia 6'5 205 4.47 3-4
Fabian Washington CB Junior Nebraska 5'10 190 4.40 2-3
Vernand Morency RB Junior Oklahoma State 5'11 215 4.38 2-3
Aaron Rodgers QB Junior California 6'2 220 4.72 1
Thomas Davis FS Junior Georgia 6'2 230 4.50 1
Shawne Merriman DE Junior Maryland 6'4 245 4.60 3
Ryan Moats RB Junior Louisiana Tech 5'9 205 4.55 4-5
Eric Shelton RB Junior Louisville 6'3 245 4.52 1-2
Justin Miller CB Junior Clemson 5'11 190 4.41 1
Channing Crowder ILB RS-Soph Florida 6'3 245 4.60 1
Odell Thurman ILB Junior Georgia 6'1 230 4.70 2-3
Adam Jones CB Junior West Virginia 5'10 185 4.45 1-2
Roscoe Parrish WR Junior Miami 5'9 172 4.35 4-5
Brandon Browner CB RS-Soph Oregon State 6'4 202 4.53 1-2
Damien Nash RB Junior Missouri 5'11 215 4.34 5-6
Jason Allen FS/CB Junior Tennessee 6'2 200 4.45 2
Frank Gore RB Junior Miami 5'10 220 4.50 5-6

texans
01-07-2005, 02:48 PM
Frank gore just entered the draft and i was thinking that he would be a great pick for us in the 4th or 5th and would be the brusier the dom wants.

(sorry about no like is on KFFL)

texans
01-07-2005, 04:58 PM
Just saw that declared on espn. He would be a steal in the fourth of 5th round. Do u think he could the brusier the dom wants?

Lucky
01-07-2005, 05:00 PM
Name Position Year School HT WT 40 Round
Shawne Merriman DE Junior Maryland 6'4 245 4.60 3

Not sure where you're getting the "round" information, but Merriman received a 1st or 2nd round recommendation from the NFL's underclassman evaluation committee. And they're usually pretty conservative with those recommendations.

Marcus
01-07-2005, 05:13 PM
Frank gore just entered the draft and i was thinking that he would be a great pick for us in the 4th or 5th and would be the brusier the dom wants.

The brusier that Dom wants? :rofl:

Think big. Like 6'3", around 250 big. Like Eric Shelton of Louisville

infantrycak
01-07-2005, 05:19 PM
The brusier that Dom wants? :rofl:

Think big. Like 6'3", around 250 big. Like Eric Shelton of Louisville

Or Kay Jay on the 2nd day--a classic Casserly move to get a RB low looking for a diamond in the rough.

texasguy346
01-07-2005, 05:31 PM
My only concerns with Kay Jay are his age (played minor league baseball for 4 years), his durability, and his blocking/recieving skills. The blocking and recieving isn't a huge deal since DD is an excellent reciever, and if we were to draft Kay Jay he'd likely be in on short yardage scenarios where everyone knows we'll be running for the first down or TD. Just about every RB has to work on picking up the blitz when they come to the NFL, and some pick it up quicker than others. As far as his age it is only a concern because of the relatively short careers that most RBs have. Once a RB hits 30 he is considered over the hill, and essientially done. Curtis Martin is the oldest player to lead the league in rushing, and he's 31.

infantrycak
01-07-2005, 05:33 PM
I wasn't saying Brown isn't the better prospect, more of a Kay Jay looks like a possibility for a bruiser back as well and it wouldn't be surprising if they filled other spots above and then went for him in the 4th.

Grid
01-07-2005, 05:34 PM
Kay Jay is definatly not a solution for our running game. If we draft an RB high, its going to be someone who we think could replace DD as the franchise back. Kay Jay is just too old.

Merriman could be a good choice for us if we trade down in the 1st.

texasguy346
01-07-2005, 05:41 PM
I wasn't saying Brown isn't the better prospect, more of a Kay Jay looks like a possibility for a bruiser back as well and it wouldn't be surprising if they filled other spots above and then went for him in the 4th.

I'd agree with that. RB, although a concern, isn't our most pressing need. I, too, would expect another 2nd day RB pick, but I'd prefer it not to be Kay Jay.

ColdSteelBlue
01-07-2005, 07:19 PM
Frank gore just entered the draft and i was thinking that he would be a great pick for us in the 4th or 5th and would be the brusier the dom wants.

(sorry about no like is on KFFL)

Gore is pretty strong but he is NOT a bruiser. in fact I think of him as a more injury prone version of Hollings. Shelton, Jacobs and Harris or the only true bruisers in this draft.

wags
01-07-2005, 08:00 PM
Mathias Kiwanuka said he is staying for his senior year.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1961970

texan279
01-07-2005, 08:53 PM
LINK (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1961970)

Boston College: Defensive end Mathias Kiwanuka said Friday that he will stay at the school for his final year of eligibility as the Eagles move into the Atlantic Coast Conference next season.

Kiwanuka, the Big East defensive player of the year, spent a few days discussing his options with his family and Don Horton, the assistant coach who originally recruited him, before coming to a decision.

"I felt like there's still some areas of my game that I could improve on and be 100 percent when I make the leap," Kiwanuka said in a conference call. "I was still hearing conflicting views. I was still hearing that I could still be drafted in the first round. It was just my college career and just not being satisfied with what I've done so far."

Kiwanuka, who led BC with 11 sacks and 24 tackles for losses this past season, said a big part of his decision was the chance to play in the ACC next year.

"I've enjoyed my time at Boston College," Kiwanuka said. "A part of it is college life, playing college football and now we get to go to the ACC, which I think, in my opinion, is the best conference in the country. Being in that spotlight before I take it to the NFL is important."

ledzeppelin229
01-07-2005, 09:05 PM
I think this is a good decision for him, barring injury if he can add on another 15 lbs or so and refine his game a little more he could be a top 5 pick next draft.

TexansCanes
01-07-2005, 09:47 PM
if gore wants to do anything is this league he has to get back down to his old playing weight. he put on a lot of lbs since his second knee and if he could lose 10 or 15 he might be able to return to his old form of 9.1 yards a carry. gore isn't the brusier that dom is looking for. is game is a cut back speed game.

Huge
01-07-2005, 10:04 PM
ESPN has a running list up. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1959762)

Wolf's post from draftshowcase...

*Texas has already had Jonathan Scott stay, but sources close to Texas say they expect to lose at least one junior by the time this is all done. DT Rodrique Wright has made it pretty clear he's returning, so it looks as though the early defector could FS/CB Michael Huff.

Huff has announced he's staying. Texas will keep their 3 junior prospects.

Errant Hothy
01-07-2005, 10:13 PM
This darft is getting uglier by the day for us. Trade down is now probaly a real possibilty in the minds of the FO crew.

Wolf
01-08-2005, 09:51 AM
1/7/05
*Two more names in the draft pool as Tennessee FS/CB Jason Allen has declared. I felt Allen would be at top 15 type guy in next year's draft, but he'll probably still have a shot at late 1st this year, although he'll probably end up as more of a 2nd Rounder. Missouri's RB Damien Nash, who left school about a month back has declared for the draft rather than transferring. He's a speedy back, but somewhat raw and will likely go in the 5-6 range.

http://www.draftshowcase.com/underclassmen.htm

TexansCanes
01-09-2005, 01:10 AM
ernest shazor, who was suppose to make a decision on jan 15, has been said that he might leave. i think Edwards leaked some info about the situation.

Nawzer
01-09-2005, 04:49 PM
Does anyone remember or know the name of the defensive tacke from Utah? The guy was just dominating all game long against Pittsburgh. I don't know if he's sophomore or junior, but that guy was just awesome. He's from Hawaii I think..

What do guys think about Vernand Morency? He was one of the best in the nation and maybe we can pick him up in the 3rd round if he's available. Also, Fabian Washington is a very good d-back.

wags
01-10-2005, 11:32 AM
Ahmad Brooks is staying in school.

Errant Hothy
01-10-2005, 11:40 AM
A trade down is becoming the most likley scenario at 13 now.

hou059
01-10-2005, 12:30 PM
Ahmad Brooks is not declaring as well as Mathius Kawanuka. Damn! Okay now I have to redo my draft!

F-minus67
01-10-2005, 01:15 PM
There still is time, I think the dead line for entering is the 15th.

hou059
01-10-2005, 01:28 PM
Not it's official, i read the article on NFL Draft Showcase.com

wags
01-10-2005, 08:40 PM
Heath Miller (TE, UVA) and Steve Savoy (WR, Utah) are entering the draft.

Errant Hothy
01-10-2005, 08:53 PM
Heath Miller (TE, UVA) and Steve Savoy (WR, Utah) are entering the draft.

Finally something good happens to us in this draft.

Blake
01-12-2005, 11:24 AM
It seems that LB Ahmad Brooks will be going back to Virgina for another year.
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/img/front/newsflash.jpg
This is my only source.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/

Blake
01-12-2005, 11:25 AM
Not good news for Texans fans, as this will allow all prospects to move up a spot.

El Tejano
01-12-2005, 11:27 AM
How is that so?

TexansCanes
01-12-2005, 09:50 PM
Shazor has declared

Link (http://www.detnews.com/2005/um/0501/10/d01-54509.htm)

wags
01-13-2005, 11:31 AM
Marcus McNeil(LT, AUB) and Jimmy Williams(CB, VT) said they are coming back to school.

Errant Hothy
01-13-2005, 12:29 PM
USC ILB Lofa Tatupu and Virginia OLB Daryl Blackstock are saying they are coming out.

And on a different nore, Jason Allen has changed his mind, and is returning to Tennesse. And add Andrew Whitworth to the list of those going back to school.

ComstockLode
01-14-2005, 02:31 PM
He began the press conference saying "I am going pro" and then said "Just Kidding" with a huge grin on his face.

Mack Brown players never want to leave...

wags
01-14-2005, 02:44 PM
Rod Wright and Haloti Ngata are both returning to school.

DeAngelo Williams also said he's returning to school.

wags
01-14-2005, 04:51 PM
Matt Leinart is staying in school.

ccdude730
01-14-2005, 05:04 PM
:hairpull: why is everyone staying?!? they are throwing off everything!

Errant Hothy
01-14-2005, 05:06 PM
Worse draft since, what most call one of the worst althought I don't remember it, 1991?

Leinart will be missing out on a lot of "stragith cash, homey."

ccdude730
01-14-2005, 05:32 PM
Leinart will be missing out on a lot of "stragith cash, homey."

:rofl:

no need to write checks....

texansfan88
01-14-2005, 09:16 PM
Ngata and Bing both declared their intentions to stay in school

Rod Wright and Deangelo Williams also will stay, and look for both to be top 10 picks next year

Errant Hothy
01-15-2005, 01:43 PM
Marion Barber III is back in the draft.

http://www.gophersports.com/sportsNews/press_release.asp?news_id=10036&sport_id=mfball

Errant Hothy
01-19-2005, 08:00 PM
Here is the offical list of the underclassmen granted permission to enter the 2005 Draft.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/8114732