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Big Lou
09-30-2008, 05:21 PM
What the heck is going on with AJ? I'm not quesstioning him per say, becasue he is one of the most talented WR's in the game in my opinion. However does anyone have any insight into what's going on?

Steelers: Numbers wise he had a good game, but if I recall correctly it was all late game crap, due too a big lead defensive scheme.

Titans: Targeted many times, with some throws that weren't great but were catchable for a top 5 type reciever.

Jags: Just 40 something yards. Really, just 40 yards!!!!! I didn't see the game, so I don't know the whole story.

Is he bieng triple covered or something, or is this just a freak string of games? Last year when Shaub was in one peice throwing the ball AJ was awesome. Is there more yet to come? I know there's a lot to digest in this post, but any thoughts?


Big Lou

BuffaloglennTX
10-01-2008, 07:33 AM
Against the Jags AJ was double-teamed most of the time, which is part of the reason Kevin Walter, who played in the slot most of the game, and Owen Daniels had such big games. The Jags stacked to take away the run, which they did succesfully, and not let AJ beat them deep. The Texans countered with the inside passes to Walter and Daniels, along with a TD pass to Slaton when the split him outside. AJ did have a key 20 yard pass in the fourth quarter drive that resulted in the tying field goal, so overall his presence helped the offense move the ball well. AJ will get his over the course of the season; it just depends on matchups and what the defense tries to take away.

TheRealJoker
10-01-2008, 08:29 AM
AJ just has to get in a groove. I think this 4 game home stretch is where he does it. There are some nice stat padding games for him against Detroit and Cincy in particular.

Marcus
10-01-2008, 06:47 PM
AJ was double-teamed most of the time . . .

I don't know whether to call that a reason, or an excuse. Andre Johnson is supposed to be an elite receiver, making elite receiver money, along the likes of Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, Rodney Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Larry Fitzgerald, Chad Johnson, etc. Those receivers beat double-teams.

He's a good receiver, though. Good enough to actually command a double-team, along the likes of other good receivers, like Plaxico Burress.

But beat a double-team? Or even actually get separation from the defender on a deep ball?

Haven't seen it yet.

Thorn
10-01-2008, 07:06 PM
I don't know whether to call that a reason, or an excuse. Andre Johnson is supposed to be an elite receiver, making elite receiver money, along the likes of Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, Rodney Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Larry Fitzgerald, Chad Johnson, etc. Those receivers beat double-teams.

He's a good receiver, though. Good enough to actually command a double-team, along the likes of other good receivers, like Plaxico Burress.

But beat a double-team? Or even actually get separation from the defender on a deep ball?

Haven't seen it yet.

I've seen him do that lots of times, just not so much this year.

beerlover
10-01-2008, 07:09 PM
time in the pocket has been an issue, unless they're looking @ him on quick slants or posts most his routes require time to develop. his straight ahead speed still seems there but I don't see alot of cuts or lateral movement so maybe teams just play off & then close as they react to the ball in flight. if he needs more time to get comfortable thats fine with me eventually he's going to break one then more should follow :)

nunusguy
10-01-2008, 08:07 PM
I think he's just too inconsistant ( I could say unreliable, but AJ is a nice guy, I'll cut him a break), to be considered among the elite receivers.
And there has been too many games, too many key or clutch opportunites where he's had a chance to make a play which would result in a positive outcome for the Texans in a game, and he just dropped the ball. Figuratively and literally. Like last week in Nashville.

WesmanTexanfan
10-01-2008, 08:16 PM
I think he's just too inconsistant ( I could say unreliable, but AJ is a nice guy, I'll cut him a break), to be considered among the elite receivers.
And there has been too many games, too many key or clutch opportunites where he's had a chance to make a play which would result in a positive outcome for the Texans in a game, and he just dropped the ball. Figuratively and literally. Like last week in Nashville.

Its because there is always more than one guy on him, Its because we are playing guys like David Anderson instead of Davis and Walter, this looks to be changing a bit, but Andre will get it together....

ATXtexanfan
10-01-2008, 09:19 PM
I think he's just too inconsistant ( I could say unreliable, but AJ is a nice guy, I'll cut him a break), to be considered among the elite receivers.
And there has been too many games, too many key or clutch opportunites where he's had a chance to make a play which would result in a positive outcome for the Texans in a game, and he just dropped the ball. Figuratively and literally. Like last week in Nashville.

inconsistent like T.O.? he's fine, he made it to the probowl with carr, doesn't that say enough

Marcus
10-01-2008, 09:48 PM
inconsistent like T.O.? he's fine, he made it to the probowl with carr, doesn't that say enough

Dwelling on the past, are we?

Lucky
10-01-2008, 10:00 PM
What the heck is going on with AJ? I'm not quesstioning him per say, becasue he is one of the most talented WR's in the game in my opinion. However does anyone have any insight into what's going on?
No insight here, but I would guess that Johnson isn't 100% back from his knee surgery. He missed all but a handful of plays in the preseason, and doesn't look as explosive as last season.

michaelm
10-01-2008, 11:31 PM
Yeah... y'all don't over analyze this one.
The answer is simple.
I drafted AJ as the #1 receiver on my fantasy team.

Mystery Solved.

beerlover
10-01-2008, 11:50 PM
Yeah... y'all don't over analyze this one.
The answer is simple.
I drafted AJ as the #1 receiver on my fantasy team.

Mystery Solved.

Switch him to your #2 receiver. The answer is simple :smiliedance:

WesmanTexanfan
10-02-2008, 12:10 AM
I bet if we all benched him he would have a big game..

Big Lou
10-02-2008, 06:52 PM
I bet if we all benched him he would have a big game..

Yeh, but what's worse in fantasy football when you have a guy start and he puts up 2 points, or when you bench them and they put up 30?

A quandry for the ages!!!!!!!:hairpull:

Dancerdog
10-02-2008, 07:46 PM
AJ could still be hampered somewhat by his knee injury. Like an earlier poster said, I haven't seen a lot of hard lateral movement out of him this season. I'm sure he's frustrated over not getting the ball more, but I think if other teams are going to double team him and that leaves someone else open, so be it. One thing I will say- towards the end of last season I was noticing that while Andre Davis would go up for a reception, he would fight tooth and nail with the defender to get the ball. I didn't see so much of that from AJ. I don't know if he has been on the losing end of games so long that he has lost some heart. I hope not. I think that the more we have luck going to our other receivers, the more other teams will have to take them into account and that should open up some more opportunities for AJ.

HOU-TEX
10-03-2008, 08:48 AM
Yeh, but what's worse in fantasy football when you have a guy start and he puts up 2 points, or when you bench them and they put up 30?

A quandry for the ages!!!!!!!:hairpull:

Ummm...sorta like me benching Walter last week in favor of Bowe. :gun: