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bah007
09-29-2008, 02:09 PM
This is my first top 25 of this season.

Warning: I rank teams based on their body of work, NOT on how good I think they are. I do not reward (or hurt) teams for their future schedule, only for the games that they have already played.

1. Oklahoma (4-0)
2. Alabama (5-0)
3. Penn St (5-0)
4. Missouri (4-0)
5. Texas (4-0)
6. LSU (4-0)
7. USF (5-0)
8. BYU (4-0)
9. Utah (5-0)
10. USC (2-1)
11. Oklahoma St (4-0)
12. Georgia (4-1)
13. Texas Tech (4-0)
14. Florida (3-1)
15. Vanderbilt (4-0)
16. Virgina Tech (4-1)
17. Ohio St (4-1)
18. Auburn (4-1)
19. Boise St (3-0)
20. Connecticut (5-0)
21. Kansas (3-1)
22. Michigan St (4-1)
23. Kentucky (4-0)
24. Oregon (4-1)
25. Ball St (5-0)

Just Out:
Wake Forest
North Carolina
Northwestern
Tulsa
Maryland

bah007
09-29-2008, 03:32 PM
Any thoughts?

texanhead08
09-29-2008, 10:10 PM
Tulsa-Rice should be interesting this weekend, the combined score could be over 100. Those arent the most defense oriented teams out there.

TexansLucky13
09-29-2008, 10:18 PM
I would have LSU in front of Texas.

Penn State in front of Missouri? Seriously?

Also, I am not sure why you have Auburn so low. I would have them at around 13. I am bias, so sue me.

bah007
09-29-2008, 10:44 PM
I would have LSU in front of Texas.

Penn State in front of Missouri? Seriously?

Also, I am not sure why you have Auburn so low. I would have them at around 13. I am bias, so sue me.

Texas over LSU may have been a knee-jerk reaction because of this past week. LSU wasn't too impressive against Miss St & Texas completely destroyed Arkansas. Other than that, I think they are pretty close.

It was almost a coin flip between Penn St & Mizzou. I have them really close, but I think the Nittany Lions have a way better defense so I gave them the edge.

Auburn has beaten nobody & they barely escaped against two bad teams (Tenn & Miss St).

TexansLucky13
09-29-2008, 11:21 PM
Texas over LSU may have been a knee-jerk reaction because of this past week. LSU wasn't too impressive against Miss St & Texas completely destroyed Arkansas. Other than that, I think they are pretty close.

It was almost a coin flip between Penn St & Mizzou. I have them really close, but I think the Nittany Lions have a way better defense so I gave them the edge.

Auburn has beaten nobody & they barely escaped against two bad teams (Tenn & Miss St).

I wouldn't consider Arkansas to be a "good" team. Beating three teams 52-10 is awfully consistent but I would wait to see them play Oklahoma before saying one way or the other. On the other hand, I know how talented LSU is.

If you are really surprised by those close games Auburn and LSU won, you don't really know SEC football. That's just how it goes in the toughest division in college football.

beerlover
09-29-2008, 11:23 PM
looks pretty good, but I have a feeling a couple of those ACC teams work their way into the top 20 by seasons end :)

kastofsna
09-29-2008, 11:28 PM
i worry about USF. looks like the same old team each year. stink up the joint and barely beat FIU, come out for a tough road game and demolish NC State the next week. i sense the same old Jim Leavitt philosophy of playing down to the competition is in play big time this year

bah007
09-29-2008, 11:31 PM
I wouldn't consider Arkansas to be a "good" team. Beating three teams 52-10 is awfully consistent but I would wait to see them play Oklahoma before saying one way or the other. On the other hand, I know how talented LSU is.

If you are really surprised by those close games Auburn and LSU won, you don't really know SEC football. That's just how it goes in the toughest division in college football.

I don't consider Ark to be a good team at all.

Texas has not played OU yet so that is not reflected in my rankings. I mentioned that I don't rank teams based on how talented they may or may not be, only on what they have done.

I'm not suprised by the close games in the SEC. But Tennessee & Mississippi St look like bad teams, regardless of their conference allegiance. And Auburn had trouble with both of them.

The SEC can hardly claim to be the far and away best conference in college football anymore. Those days are over. They are still the best, but the Big XII is right up there also.

kastofsna
09-29-2008, 11:40 PM
top to bottom there's no topping the SEC. even Vanderbilt looks like a team no one wants to play nowadays. Big XII has some big-hitters offensively at the top, sorta bleeds into mediocrity past that

TexansLucky13
09-29-2008, 11:42 PM
The SEC can hardly claim to be the far and away best conference in college football anymore. Those days are over. They are still the best, but the Big XII is right up there also.

I definitely agree. At the top, Alabama is doing some amazing stuff, but other than that the Big 12 takes the cake. The four offensive juggernauts in Oklahoma, Missouri, Texas and Tech will be hard to stop.

P.S. - I am looking forward to the Oklahoma and Texas game. Like I said, it will really gauge both teams, and very likely could end up being an ESPN Classic.

bah007
09-29-2008, 11:55 PM
I definitely agree. At the top, Alabama is doing some amazing stuff, but other than that the Big 12 takes the cake. The four offensive juggernauts in Oklahoma, Missouri, Texas and Tech will be hard to stop.

P.S. - I am looking forward to the Oklahoma and Texas game. Like I said, it will really gauge both teams, and very likely could end up being an ESPN Classic.

I really don't see how we can beat OU this year. They have looked nearly perfect so far.

YoungTexanFan
09-30-2008, 09:29 AM
I would consider Reesing and KU an offensive juggernaut. I don't think we are in the same class as that group, but our offense is for sure. If you want a picture of our schedule to round out the season, clip out the AP's top 7 teams - we play 4 of them still this year after losing by a last second field goal to the #10 team on the road after dominating much of the game.

texanhead08
09-30-2008, 10:37 AM
Miss St isnt very good on offense but their defense is good enough to keep them in most games. I wouldnt set off alarms for winning a close game against them.

bah007
09-30-2008, 01:49 PM
Miss St isnt very good on offense but their defense is good enough to keep them in most games. I wouldnt set off alarms for winning a close game against them.

Probably the only reason you think that is because Miss St is in the SEC. If that is not the case, then tell me and I will take it back, but it probably is.

They are giving up 4.6 yards per carry & 13.5 yards per completion. Not the worst numbers ever, but hardly worth consideration as a good defense.

Their d-line provides a good pass rush & their FS (Pegues, I think) makes a lot of plays. Beyond that, I'm not impressed.

TexansSeminole
09-30-2008, 04:45 PM
looks pretty good, but I have a feeling a couple of those ACC teams work their way into the top 20 by seasons end :)

I have to agree. North Carolina is a team that can suprise some people and break that top 20 this year. I also think Florida St will make it's way back in the top 20 this year. Miami may still have a year to go, but I could be completely wrong and the Hurricanes could beat FSU this weekend. Florida State at Miami games are always great games. Atleast this time we play in Dolphin Stadium. Better than the Orange Bowl.

I think it's a good top 25 bah. Everybody has a different one, and you don't have any way out there teams.

I'm not a big fan of Boise State, Kentucky, or Oregon. Kentucky and Boise State don't have any losses but I need to see more of them. Oregon is overrated IMO.

I really like Ball St. I'd put them in my top 20, but after Love got a career ending injury I need to see how they bounce back from that. That QB Nate Davis is a good football player. He will no doubt be an NFL QB. He's got "it". You can see it when you watch the team. No idea where he is considered round wise at this point but he looks like atleast a 2nd or 3rd rounder.

kastofsna
09-30-2008, 06:15 PM
Robert Marve (herein referred to as Robert Mavre) looks like the real deal at QB for Miami. didn't look that good against NC though, despite the good completion %

Ryan
09-30-2008, 07:37 PM
Texas is way too far up. 11 or 12 would be more suitable.

TexansLucky13
09-30-2008, 08:03 PM
Texas is way too far up. 11 or 12 would be more suitable.

I'm an Aggie and I can't even bring myself to put them that low. I'm not sure if they are top 5 quality, but definitely under 10 I think.

Ryan
09-30-2008, 08:33 PM
I'm an Aggie and I can't even bring myself to put them that low. I'm not sure if they are top 5 quality, but definitely under 10 I think.

Rice, Florida Atlantic, and UTEP are not considered admirable opponents. You can definitely argue also that Arkansas sucks. What on earth have they done to deserve a top 10 ranking?

kastofsna
09-30-2008, 08:53 PM
Texas and Texas Tech are going to get some good lol's out of this football fan this year. expecting some big losses there

bah007
09-30-2008, 08:57 PM
Rice, Florida Atlantic, and UTEP are not considered admirable opponents. You can definitely argue also that Arkansas sucks. What on earth have they done to deserve a top 10 ranking?

The players can't control who they play, but they can control the outcome.

UP TO THIS POINT, Texas has completely dominated everybody they have played.

If you schedule crap teams, you better beat the snot out of them. Texas has done that so far.

kiwitexansfan
09-30-2008, 09:47 PM
Whatever happened to Nebraska.

I don't get to see any college ball and don't follow it all that much, but I may end up living in Nebraska for my daugthers operation and was curious about them.

I seem to remember they were once a big deal?

TexansSeminole
09-30-2008, 10:49 PM
Robert Marve (herein referred to as Robert Mavre) looks like the real deal at QB for Miami. didn't look that good against NC though, despite the good completion %

Really? I thought Marve looked average in the games I saw him play. I thought Jacory Harris had what it takes. Too bad Marve is the starter because I think Harris could do some real good things over there. Only problem with him is that he is skinny as a rail.

I understand that Marve broke all of Tebow's high school records, but I just didn't see it. Maybe I am wrong.

We'll see this Saturday how he does against Florida State. :shades:

kastofsna
09-30-2008, 11:14 PM
someone's breaking records every year. Marve broke Tebow's, Harris broke Marve's, someone else is about to break Harris's...Marve is awesome, no doubt he's a better QB for the Hurricanes

bah007
10-01-2008, 09:38 AM
Whatever happened to Nebraska.

I don't get to see any college ball and don't follow it all that much, but I may end up living in Nebraska for my daugthers operation and was curious about them.

I seem to remember they were once a big deal?

Bill Calahan came in and ruined everything. They still recruit decently, but under Calahan, they were just bad.

I think Pelini can turn them around, as long as he keeps his attitude in check with the referees...

TexansSeminole
10-01-2008, 10:27 AM
Pelini was the D-Coordinator for LSU last year. Just FYI because you said you don't watch alot of college football.

kiwitexansfan
10-01-2008, 08:26 PM
Bill Calahan came in and ruined everything. They still recruit decently, but under Calahan, they were just bad.

I think Pelini can turn them around, as long as he keeps his attitude in check with the referees...

Callahan as in ex-Raiders HC??

That was a smart hire..... or not.

bah007
10-01-2008, 08:30 PM
Callahan as in ex-Raiders HC??

That was a smart higher..... or not.

Yes. Same guy.

bah007
10-04-2008, 02:18 PM
#16 Kansas is getting handled by Iowa St 20-0 at the half.

KU's lack of running game is finally catching up with them. They are gaining only 3.3 yards per play & have three turnovers already.

Austen Arnaud (ISU) is 15/18 for 126 & a TD. Who saw that coming?

bah007
10-04-2008, 02:49 PM
Mangino yelled at somebody.

Seven minutes into the 3rd & its already 20-14.

b0ng
10-04-2008, 03:20 PM
Mangino yelled at somebody.

Seven minutes into the 3rd & its already 20-14.

28 - 20 now with KU on top.

threetoedpete
10-04-2008, 03:26 PM
Whatever happened to Nebraska.

I don't get to see any college ball and don't follow it all that much, but I may end up living in Nebraska for my daugthers operation and was curious about them.

I seem to remember they were once a big deal?

No school was hurt more by the reduction of scholarships to 85 than Nebraska.
It basically killed their , "take twenty five big guys and let them fight it out for two years for pt on the OL", thing that they did. Once that base was taken away from them, it killed their rushing attack. Once that was gone, and they had to compete with the beef along with everyone else, they became very ordinary.

GL & prayers for your daughter's operation.

TexansLucky13
10-04-2008, 03:32 PM
No school was hurt more by the reduction of scholarships to 85 than Nebraska.
It basically killed their , "take twenty five big guys and let them fight it out for two years for pt on the OL", thing that they did. Once that base was taken away from them, it killed their rushing attack. Once that was gone, and they had to compete with the beef along with everyone else, they became very ordinary.

GL & prayers for your daughter's operation.

Also, Nebraska hasn't been the same since they moved away from smashmouth football. That was a terrible idea.

bah007
10-05-2008, 05:46 PM
Week 2:

1. Oklahoma (5-0)
2. Alabama (6-0)
3. Missouri (5-0)
4. Penn St (6-0)
5. Texas (5-0)
6. LSU (4-0)
7. Vanderbilt (5-0)
8. Oklahoma St (5-0)
9. Utah (6-0)
10. Texas Tech (5-0)
11. USC (3-1)
12. Florida (4-1)
13. Virginia Tech (5-1)
14. BYU (5-0)
15. Georgia (4-1)
16. Boise St (4-0)
17. Ohio St (5-1)
18. Michigan St (5-1)
19. Northwestern (5-0)
20. Florida St (4-1)
21. Ball St (6-0)
22. North Carolina (4-1)
23. Pittsburgh (4-1)
24. USF (5-1)
25. Georgia Tech (4-1)

Just Out:
Notre Dame
Tulsa
Cal
Wake Forest
Kansas

Dropped Out: Auburn, Connecticut, Kentucky, Oregon

bah007
10-12-2008, 03:12 PM
Texas and Texas Tech are going to get some good lol's out of this football fan this year. expecting some big losses there

Still waiting?

bah007
10-12-2008, 03:16 PM
Week 7:

1. Alabama (6-0)
2. Texas (6-0)
3. Penn St (7-0)
4. Oklahoma St (6-0)
5. Florida (5-1)
6. Oklahoma (5-1)
7. USC (4-1)
8. Georgia (5-1)
9. Texas Tech (6-0)
10. BYU (6-0)
11. Missouri (5-1)
12. Boise St (5-0)
13. Utah (7-0)
14. Michigan St (6-1)
15. Ball St (7-0)
16. Ohio St (6-1)
17. North Carolina (5-1)
18. Pittsburgh (4-1)
19. Wake Forest (4-1)
20. Virginia Tech (5-1)
21. LSU (4-1)
22. Vanderbilt (5-1)
23. Georgia Tech (5-1)
24. USF (5-1)
25. Cal (4-1)

Just Out:
South Carolina
Boston College
Minnesota
Florida St
Tulsa

Dropped Out: Northwestern
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.Thoughts?

kastofsna
10-12-2008, 05:33 PM
didn't pay attention at all to college ball yesterday, looks like i missed some good stuff

Corrosion
10-12-2008, 05:46 PM
Week 7:

1. Alabama (6-0)
2. Texas (6-0)
3. Penn St (7-0)
4. Oklahoma St (6-0)
5. Florida (5-1)
6. Oklahoma (5-1)
7. USC (4-1)
8. Georgia (5-1)
9. Texas Tech (6-0)
10. BYU (6-0)
11. Missouri (5-1)
12. Boise St (5-0)
13. Utah (7-0)
14. Michigan St (6-1)
15. Ball St (7-0)
16. Ohio St (6-1)
17. North Carolina (5-1)
18. Pittsburgh (4-1)
19. Wake Forest (4-1)
20. Virginia Tech (5-1)
21. LSU (4-1)
22. Vanderbilt (5-1)
23. Georgia Tech (5-1)
24. USF (5-1)
25. Cal (4-1)

Just Out:
South Carolina
Boston College
Minnesota
Florida St
Tulsa

Dropped Out: Northwestern
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.Thoughts?

Cant see Bama staying #1 after they struggled to beat a mediocre team.

TT being undefeated should be above those 1 loss teams. I'd put them at 5.

Also think OU is the best 1 loss team.

bah007
10-12-2008, 06:16 PM
Cant see Bama staying #1 after they struggled to beat a mediocre team.

TT being undefeated should be above those 1 loss teams. I'd put them at 5.

Also think OU is the best 1 loss team.

If Texas beats Mizzou, they easily jump Bama in my poll. But right now, Bama's big win over Georgia is still enough to keep them #1.

The only decent team Tech has played is Nebraska. And they needed overtime to win that one.

Florida looked pretty dominating against LSU. That's a quality win against a quality opponent. OU doesn't have one of those yet.

Remeber that my poll is based on resume, not on who I think is better. Ranking teams based on how good you think they are is flawed and leads to bias so I rank them on what HAS happened. Not what WILL or COULD.

LonerATO
10-14-2008, 03:15 AM
BYU needs some more love in there and need to be above Tech. Tech has a great offense but their D blows chunks, as BYU has a great D as well as who I feel is one of the best QB's in the nation in Max Hall.

TD
10-14-2008, 07:58 AM
Florida looked pretty dominating against LSU. That's a quality win against a quality opponent. OU doesn't have one of those yet.

I agree, but your poll doesn't seem to reflect that LSU was all that quality of an opponent. You dropped them way too far.

bah007
10-14-2008, 12:11 PM
I agree, but your poll doesn't seem to reflect that LSU was all that quality of an opponent. You dropped them way too far.

The loss really hurts LSU in my poll because they haven't beaten anybody.

Florida and Oklahoma are very close in my poll. Florida's loss was worse, but they have more quality wins than Oklahoma.

My poll is not linear. I don't move teams up and down from their previous spot each week.

Instead, after each week I completely redo the poll. This way I can avoid poll inertia keeping overrated teams too high just because they were ranked high at the beginning.

So in my poll you will see teams jump up high after big wins because it drastically improves their overall resume. You will also see teams with big drops for the same reason.

TD
10-14-2008, 02:01 PM
The loss really hurts LSU in my poll because they haven't beaten anybody.

At Auburn?

My poll is not linear. I don't move teams up and down from their previous spot each week.

Instead, after each week I completely redo the poll. This way I can avoid poll inertia keeping overrated teams too high just because they were ranked high at the beginning.

So in my poll you will see teams jump up high after big wins because it drastically improves their overall resume. You will also see teams with big drops for the same reason.

Then why is Georgia so high? Where's the "quality win"? They've played one ranked team and got their ass handed to them.

Hey, I'm a Georgia fan, but under your criteria you seem to have GA and LSU basackwards.

bah007
10-14-2008, 02:42 PM
At Auburn?



Then why is Georgia so high? Where's the "quality win"? They've played one ranked team and got their ass handed to them.

Hey, I'm a Georgia fan, but under your criteria you seem to have GA and LSU basackwards.

Auburn is hardly a quality opponent this season. All they are this year is a name. Their offense is averaging 1 yard more per game than Michigan's.

LSU's best win is at Auburn (4-3). They have also beaten Mississippi St (2-4) & North Texas (0-6).

Georgia's best win is at South Carolina (5-2). They have also beaten Central Michigan (4-2) and Tennessee & Arizona St (both 2-4).

They both got beaten by good teams.

Georgia clearly has a better resume.

bah007
10-20-2008, 12:55 AM
Week 8:

1. Texas (7-0)
2. Alabama (7-0)
3. Penn St (8-0)
4. Oklahoma St (7-0)
5. Florida (5-1)
6. Oklahoma (6-1)
7. Ball St (7-0)
8. Tulsa (7-0)
9. Texas Tech (7-0)
10. Utah (8-0)
11. USC (5-1)
12. Georgia (6-1)
13. TCU (7-1)
14. Ohio St (7-1)
15. Boise St (6-0)
16. Pittsburgh (5-1)
17. Minnestoa (6-1)
18. LSU (5-1)
19. Northwestern (6-1)
20. USF (6-1)
21. Missouri (5-2)
22. Cincinnati (5-1)
23. Boston College (5-1)
24. BYU (6-1)
25. Vanderbilt (5-2)

Dropped Out: Wake Forest, North Carolina, Virginia Tech, Cal



Any thoughts?

Goldensilence
10-20-2008, 01:00 AM
Week 8:

1. Texas (7-0)
2. Alabama (7-0)
3. Penn St (8-0)
4. Oklahoma St (7-0)
5. Florida (5-1)
6. Oklahoma (6-1)
7. Ball St (7-0)
8. Tulsa (7-0)
9. Texas Tech (7-0)
10. Utah (8-0)
11. USC (5-1)
12. Georgia (6-1)
13. TCU (7-1)
14. Ohio St (7-1)
15. Boise St (6-0)
16. Pittsburgh (5-1)
17. Minnestoa (6-1)
18. LSU (5-1)
19. Northwestern (6-1)
20. USF (6-1)
21. Missouri (5-2)
22. Cincinnati (5-1)
23. Boston College (5-1)
24. BYU (6-1)
25. Vanderbilt (5-2)

Dropped Out: Wake Forest, North Carolina, Virginia Tech, Cal



Any thoughts?

Tulsa and Ball State that high?

I'm don't know if i am sold on Alabama yet this year to be honest.Penn State has been impressive and has a BIG game next weekend. IF they beat OSU I would vault them into #2 myself.

beerlover
10-20-2008, 10:42 AM
I'm don't know if i am sold on Alabama yet this year to be honest.

Alabama held Ole Miss to 3 into the 3rd before Terrence Cody got hurt (torn MCL) then ripped off 17. hard to believe one player has that kind of impact but he does, without him Alabama is just another good SEC team.

bah007
10-20-2008, 01:08 PM
Tulsa and Ball State that high?

I'm don't know if i am sold on Alabama yet this year to be honest.Penn State has been impressive and has a BIG game next weekend. IF they beat OSU I would vault them into #2 myself.

Ball St & Tulsa get bonuses because they haven't played any FCS teams.

If Penn St beats Ohio St they could probably be #2. But they haven't yet, so they are #3.

TD
10-20-2008, 01:24 PM
Ball St & Tulsa get bonuses because they haven't played any FCS teams.

I know your "re-sort" every week but I've got know. Was it because USC only beat Washington State by 69 points or because Ball St whipped Western Kentucky by 17 that caused you to suddenly think Ball St is 5 spots better than USC instead of 8 spots worse.

Sorry dude, but you've crossed the line silliness here.

bah007
10-20-2008, 02:28 PM
I know your "re-sort" every week but I've got know. Was it because USC only beat Washington State by 69 points or because Ball St whipped Western Kentucky by 17 that caused you to suddenly think Ball St is 5 spots better than USC instead of 8 spots worse.

Sorry dude, but you've crossed the line silliness here.

To be honest, I'm not impressed with this week's results either.

I've been tinkering with a computer formula for a few weeks now and these were the results. I can't seem to implement strength of schedule into the results yet.

I was hoping I would have it ready by the time the first BCS standings came out & I just used it even though it wasn't ready. Hopefully I will have it figured out by next week. If not, then I may just scrap it & go back to what I've been doing.

TD
10-20-2008, 02:32 PM
To be honest, I'm not impressed with this week's results either.

I've been tinkering with a computer formula for a few weeks now and these were the results. I can't seem to implement strength of schedule into the results yet.

I was hoping I would have it ready by the time the first BCS standings came out & I just used it even though it wasn't ready. Hopefully I will have it figured out by next week. If not, then I may just scrap it & go back to what I've been doing.

Ahh.....I missed the part where you're using a computer formula. That's pretty interesting. I'd love to see how you're doing it.

bah007
10-20-2008, 02:46 PM
Ahh.....I missed the part where you're using a computer formula. That's pretty interesting. I'd love to see how you're doing it.

I'd love to tell you....if I could make the damn thing work.

Corrosion
10-26-2008, 02:21 AM
my questions for the week ....


How far does OSU drop after playing a close game Vs #1 UT.

Does USC fall some after struggling to beat an unranked Arizona .... after losing to an unranked opponent earlier in the season.

Does TT's trouncing of a good KU team move them ahead of any of those 1 loss teams ?


Here's my top 10


1) UT
2) Bama
3) PSU
4) OU
5) TT
6) Georgia
7) OSU
8) Florida
9) Utah
10) ...... anyone but USC

bah007
10-27-2008, 12:15 PM
1. Texas
2. Alabama
3. USC
4. Penn St
5. Georgia
6. Ohio St
7. Oklahoma St
8. Oklahoma
9. Virginia
10. Oregon St
11. Florida
12. Utah
13. North Carolina
14. Missoui
15. Duke
16. Texas Tech
17. Michigan St
18. Boise St
19. Virginia Tech
20. LSU
21. Wake Forest
22. Colorado
23. Minnesota
24. Connecticut
25. South Carolina


Still experiencing problems with my computer formula. I got strength of schedule involved but all it did was skew the results:

USC, Ohio St, Virginia, Oregon St, Duke, & Colorado all ranked too high because of inflated strength of schedule.

Texas Tech & Boise St kinda low because of weak schedules so far.

TexansSeminole
10-27-2008, 02:21 PM
:( You don't have FSU on there. We are #15 in the BCS rankings.

And you have VT there, who we just beat by 10 and they have more losses than we do. And you have Wake Forest there, who have a record of 4-3 with a terrible offense. Also Colorado just got DESTROYED by Missouri...not sure they should be in the top 25.

I'm dissapointed to see all these ACC teams ahead of the best team in the ACC (FSU). :(

Corrosion
10-27-2008, 02:42 PM
1. Texas
2. Alabama
3. USC
4. Penn St
5. Georgia
6. Ohio St
7. Oklahoma St
8. Oklahoma
9. Virginia
10. Oregon St
11. Florida
12. Utah
13. North Carolina
14. Missoui
15. Duke
16. Texas Tech
17. Michigan St
18. Boise St
19. Virginia Tech
20. LSU
21. Wake Forest
22. Colorado
23. Minnesota
24. Connecticut
25. South Carolina


Still experiencing problems with my computer formula. I got strength of schedule involved but all it did was skew the results:

USC, Ohio St, Virginia, Oregon St, Duke, & Colorado all ranked too high because of inflated strength of schedule.

Texas Tech & Boise St kinda low because of weak schedules so far.

Wow , what a jump by USC from 11 up to 3 after struggling to beat a team they should beat handily.

TT falling after kicking the snot out of a good team ....

PSU falling behind a 1 loss team after beating a very good Ohio St. team.

bah007
10-27-2008, 02:46 PM
:( You don't have FSU on there. We are #15 in the BCS rankings.

And you have VT there, who we just beat by 10 and they have more losses than we do. And you have Wake Forest there, who have a record of 4-3 with a terrible offense. Also Colorado just got DESTROYED by Missouri...not sure they should be in the top 25.

I'm dissapointed to see all these ACC teams ahead of the best team in the ACC (FSU). :(

If its any consolation....FSU was #27.

Then again, it shouldn't matter. My formula sucks right now.

I didn't think it would be that difficult but there is just so many college teams that it is hard to connect them in a formula.

TexansSeminole
10-27-2008, 02:50 PM
If its any consolation....FSU was #27.

Then again, it shouldn't matter. My formula sucks right now.

I didn't think it would be that difficult but there is just so many college teams that it is hard to connect them in a formula.

I'm very much a homer when it comes to FSU. Exponentially more than I am with the Texans.

eriadoc
10-27-2008, 03:12 PM
I haven't actually seen the new rankings for this week, so I'll go look after I post this. But I wanted to say that OU lost to Texas, Georgia has a single loss, and that was to Alabama. Texas Tech has been dismantling folks. OK St. put up a helluva fight against Texas.

Penn St. beat ..... who besides Ohio St.? And they tried to lose against Ohio St. I don't know; I am just not that impressed by PSU. Or by USC, for that matter.

bah007
10-27-2008, 04:05 PM
The BCS computers are about to start killing USC right now.

They have them at 6 right now, but only because their strength of schedule is #6 in the country.

They still have Washington, Stanford, & UCLA on their schedule when teams from other conference are about to play their toughest games.

They will continue to move up in the human polls, but I wouldn't be suprised to see them start falling in the computers.

Corrosion
10-27-2008, 04:41 PM
The BCS computers are about to start killing USC right now.

They have them at 6 right now, but only because their strength of schedule is #6 in the country.

They still have Washington, Stanford, & UCLA on their schedule when teams from other conference are about to play their toughest games.

They will continue to move up in the human polls, but I wouldn't be suprised to see them start falling in the computers.

Really , they have had the #6 schedule thus far in playing two ranked teams ? Coulda fooled me .... I thought that was a pansy schedule .... outside of Ohio St.

bah007
10-27-2008, 05:07 PM
Really , they have had the #6 schedule thus far in playing two ranked teams ? Coulda fooled me .... I thought that was a pansy schedule .... outside of Ohio St.

Virginia is really helping them out. They are near the front of the ACC race.

Ohio St is near the top of the Big Ten race.

Even Oregon St & Oregon are near the top of the Pac 10 race.

As I said, their SOS is inflated because they have already played their toughest games. I seriously doubt that they will have a really high SOS by the end of the season.

Corrosion
10-27-2008, 05:26 PM
Virginia is really helping them out. They are near the front of the ACC race.

Ohio St is near the top of the Big Ten race.

Even Oregon St & Oregon are near the top of the Pac 10 race.

As I said, their SOS is inflated because they have already played their toughest games. I seriously doubt that they will have a really high SOS by the end of the season.

Put any of the teams USC has played in the Big 12 or SEC and they would be lucky to win one game and thats if Baylor was on their schedule. (outside of OSU) Their schedule looks mighty questionable to be 6th most difficult in the country.

bah007
10-27-2008, 05:40 PM
Put any of the teams USC has played in the Big 12 or SEC and they would be lucky to win one game and thats if Baylor was on their schedule. (outside of OSU) Their schedule looks mighty questionable to be 6th most difficult in the country.

I'm not saying your wrong.

I'm just telling you where their schedule is ranked.

These are the top ten toughest schedules to date:
1. Washington
2. Virginia
3. Purdue
4. Oregon St
5. Duke
6. USC
7. Arizona St
8. Washington St
9. Arkansas
10. Colorado

bah007
10-27-2008, 05:41 PM
The reason the Pac 10 teams have such good SOS ratings is because they have to go out and play tough non-conference competition to make up for their weak conference.

Corrosion
10-27-2008, 07:56 PM
I'm not saying your wrong.

I'm just telling you where their schedule is ranked.

These are the top ten toughest schedules to date:
1. Washington
2. Virginia
3. Purdue
4. Oregon St
5. Duke
6. USC
7. Arizona St
8. Washington St
9. Arkansas
10. Colorado

All I can say to that is ..... :wow:

bah007
10-27-2008, 08:08 PM
All I can say to that is ..... :wow:

It seems weird, but I looked it up & there it is...

bah007
11-02-2008, 12:02 PM
Top 10 Strength of Schedule:

1. Washington
2. Duke
3. Virginia
4. Arkansas
5. Georgia
6. Wake Forest
7. Texas
8. Arizona St
9. Ole Miss
10. Florida


Just for you, Corrosion:
29. USC

bah007
11-02-2008, 12:10 PM
My New Top 25:

1. Texas Tech (9-0)
2. Alabama (9-0)
3. Texas (8-1)
4. Penn St (9-0)
5. Oklahoma (8-1)
6. Florida (7-1)
7. Boise St (8-0)
8. Oklahoma St (8-1)
9. Georiga (7-2)
10. Utah (9-0)
11. USC (7-1)
12. Ohio St (7-2)
13. TCU (9-1)
14. Missouri (7-2)
15. Ball St (8-0)
16. LSU (6-2)
17. North Carolina (6-2)
18. Miami (6-3)
19. Michigan St (8-2)
20. Florida St (6-2)
21. Georgia Tech (7-2)
22. Northwestern (7-2)
23. Wake Forest (5-3)
24. Oregon St (5-3)
25. BYU (8-1)


I have to say, I think this is the best results my formula has come up with all season.

TD
11-05-2008, 03:26 PM
I have to say, I think this is the best results my formula has come up with all season.

I agree.

bah007
11-10-2008, 03:44 AM
Week 11:

1. Texas Tech (10-0)
2. Texas (9-1)
3. Alabama (10-0)
4. Florida (8-1)
5. Oklahoma (9-1)
6. Utah (10-0)
7. USC (8-1)
8. Oklahoma St (8-2)
9. Penn St (9-1)
10. Boise St (9-0)
11. Georgia (8-2)
12. TCU (9-2)
13. Missouri (8-2)
14. Ohio St (8-2)
15. Ball St (9-0)
16. North Carolina (7-2)
17. Florida St (7-2)
18. LSU (6-3)
19. Miami (6-3)
20. Michigan St (9-2)
21. Wake Forest (6-3)
22. Oregon St (6-3)
23. Cincinnati (7-2)
24. Virginia Tech (6-3)
25. Georgia Tech (7-3)

Dropped Out:
Northwestern (22), BYU (25)

Scooter
11-10-2008, 06:13 AM
i almost completely agree, though i'm finding it hard to put USC in a position to move up. you also cant put an undefeated SEC team behind any 1-loss team, there's no opinion to justify it. as for USC, i know the talent and record and defense but i'd put them at around #10. they'd be lucky to escape as a 3 loss team in the big 12 south and a 2 loss team in the SEC. on paper/performance, could you imagine the brutality of a tech or texas vs USC matchup? while everyone else is having a respectable season, the big 12 and SEC elite are at an entirely different level.

bah007
11-10-2008, 01:43 PM
For those that care, the top ten in strength of schedule:

1. Washington
2. Virginia
3. Arkansas
4. Wake Forest
5. Duke
6. Georgia
7. Mississippi
8. Texas
9. Florida
10. Baylor
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26. USC
43. Oklahoma
45. Texas Tech
54. Penn St
58. Alabama
59. Utah

(These rankings include GAMES TO BE PLAYED, not just played to date).

DiehardChris
11-10-2008, 02:02 PM
For those that care, the top ten in strength of schedule:

1. Washington
2. Virginia
3. Arkansas
4. Wake Forest
5. Duke
6. Georgia
7. Mississippi
8. Texas
9. Florida
10. Baylor
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26. USC
43. Oklahoma
45. Texas Tech
54. Penn St
58. Alabama
59. Utah

(These rankings include GAMES TO BE PLAYED, not just played to date).

Hm, interesting. I do think Texas and Florida are the best two teams in the country. That would be a dream title game.

Ole Miss Texan
11-10-2008, 02:20 PM
For those that care, the top ten in strength of schedule:

1. Washington
2. Virginia
3. Arkansas
4. Wake Forest
5. Duke
6. Georgia
7. Mississippi
8. Texas
9. Florida
10. Baylor
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26. USC
43. Oklahoma
45. Texas Tech
54. Penn St
58. Alabama
59. Utah

(These rankings include GAMES TO BE PLAYED, not just played to date).

Hey I didn't realize that! Awesome! We're 5-4 right now but really are a lot better than that record. We lost on a last second FG at Wake Forest, shot ourselves in the foot the whole game against Vandy and lost by 6, shot ourselves in the foot against South Caroline and lost by 7, and were in position at mid field at the end of the game to go and beat Alabama but didn't and lost by 4. Lot of close games and I would put us really at 7-2 right now (loss to Bama and loss to Florida even though we won that game, the others we shoulda won). We've go UL Monroe, LSU, and Miss. St. left and I think we win out putting us at 8-4 and bowl game finally!

bah007
11-16-2008, 03:45 AM
Strength of Schedule:

1. Virginia
2. Washington
3. Duke
4. Arkansas
5. Wake Forest
6. Georgia
7. Texas
8. Florida
9. North Carolina St
10. North Carolina
.
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21. USC
43. Oklahoma
50. Texas Tech
62. Penn St
72. Alabama
76. Utah
116. Boise St
119. Ball St

bah007
11-16-2008, 03:48 AM
1. Texas Tech (10-0)
2. Texas (10-1)
3. Alabama (11-0)
4. Florida (9-1)
5. Oklahoma (9-1)
6. USC (9-1)
7. Utah (11-0)
8. Oklahoma St (9-2)
9. Penn St (10-1)
10. Georgia (9-2)
11. Ohio St (9-2)
12. Missouri (9-2)
13. TCU (9-2)
14. Boise St (10-0)
15. North Carolina (7-3)
16. LSU (7-3)
17. Oregon St (7-3)
18. BYU (10-1)
19. Miami (7-3)
20. Michigan St (9-2)
21. Boston College (7-3)
22. Cincinnati (8-2)
23. Georgia Tech (7-3)
24. Florida St (7-3)
25. Ball St (10-0)

Dropped Out:
Wake Forest (21), Virginia Tech (24)

Note: I have no clue why Ball St randomly fell 10 spots despite being undefeated. They have the easiest schedule among FBS teams, but that is pretty much where they were last week. I may have made a mistake in their calculation somewhere...