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Hook'er
09-15-2008, 11:53 PM
Do you think we stand a chance in this game. I sure hope Schaub has a good game, if not people are going to start calling for Sage.

KEYE SUX
09-16-2008, 12:08 AM
Well they will have their better QB in. Haynesworth will prob play so that's not good. With Kerry Collins at the helm they jumped all over us at home. We came back huge but unfortunately left 34 seconds on the clock

Leahmic223
09-16-2008, 12:11 AM
wow idk man if we stand a chance.

Titans look like the much better team honestly...not only that we'll be on the road for awhile...and the players may not have their minds on the game...

I hope we'll win, it would be very uplifting and personally would make the week a little better with all that has happened.

DiehardChris
09-16-2008, 12:19 AM
I thought we had a much better chance with Me-Y as the QB.

Allstar
09-16-2008, 12:38 AM
We usually play the Titans pretty close. It's not impossible. I'm hoping for pressure from the D-line and something that resembles a running game.

KEYE SUX
09-16-2008, 12:46 AM
I change my mind. We should KILL them since we are coming off a bye week, right?

HJam72
09-16-2008, 07:29 AM
I change my mind. We should KILL them since we are coming off a bye week, right?

Yeah, like that's gonna help.

At least you Austinites will actually get to see it.

Thorn
09-16-2008, 07:36 AM
there are far to many variables going into this game to predict, most of which are negative for the Texans though. The only way this game is won is if the Texans get some sort of mental "just win one for the Gipper" sort of attitude. Otherwise, we start the season 0-2.

But, here's to a 1-1 start for our season! :fans:

GP
09-16-2008, 08:16 AM
Do you think we stand a chance in this game. I sure hope Schaub has a good game, if not people are going to start calling for Sage.

I don't care if our QB is Billy Joe Tolliver as long as we win.

Schaub looked slow and hesitant in his first game, something he avoided until game 3 or 4 of last season.

Everybody said he'd be better after having a year under his belt, that he would be better conditioned.

I know it's one game, but he's already showing jittery nerves and bad decision-making. And if anybody wants to gripe and say "Well, we don't have a run game to help him out..." then I say "Well, our coach doesn't think a high-profile HEALTHY running back is a priority right now."

This team is s-c-r-e-w-e-d until Kubiak swallows his pride and abandons the "I can get an unknown diamond-in-the-rough running back and do just fine" mentality. Our lack of a running game is hurting our QB right now. The two positions are tied to each other, IMO, in terms of the success of each.

HJam72
09-16-2008, 08:32 AM
Once we got well behind, Schaub tried to force some rediculous passes. In a way, I don't really blame him for trying to force things, under the circumstances--although those were really boneheaded plays.

I don't think Rosenfels would have done any better overall, but, heck, they're like twins anyway. Flip a coin. My guess is Rosenfels would've had one more pick than Schaub, but had more positive yardage. I don't really care who starts. I just want to say that I wouldn't blame any QB for those mistakes considering how most of the rest of the team was playing. When your D allows 38 freaking points and you can't run the ball, you feel a lot of pressure to force scoring.

Fact is, we can't run on Pitt's D, we can't stop their run, and we have never had any answer at all to their blitz packages. They are our boogeyman.

TheRealJoker
09-16-2008, 08:39 AM
The Tacks are honestly the last team i'd like the Texans to play after that opening day nightmare and the Hurricane Ike mess.

Their defense is way too physical for our offense at this point in the season. KVB and Haynesworth should have a field day against our OL as always (unless we can land a well placed cut block on Haynesworth*). This is a big game for Schaub since he was knocked out of both Tacks games last year and has yet to prove he can shake off a big hit and continue to play at a high level for the rest of the game.

I have high hopes for Schaub and I have high hopes for our squad so here's to the Texans pulling one out of their asses this weekend!!! :chickendance:

* Please note that I normally dont wish injury on a player but Haynesworth is a low class individual who has earned it.

Bulluck53
09-16-2008, 08:45 AM
All you guys have to do to beat us is stop the run, that's easier said than done but that's basically it. Collins hasn't led a team with his arm to a win in who knows how many years. It will be a ball control game by both sides, I don't expect many big plays by either team. It will be hard-nosed football.... the Titans bread and butter. Get ready for a physical contest that really could go either way. Forget the line, forget the records. I really feel like this is getting into the rivalry of the Jags/Colts caliber for the Titans (we didn't much care about you guys before last season, hate to say it but its true.) As allstars said, this should be a close game.

Good luck and I hope everyone made it out of Ike alright.

Bulluck53
09-16-2008, 08:48 AM
The Tacks are honestly the last team i'd like the Texans to play after that opening day nightmare and the Hurricane Ike mess.

Their defense is way too physical for our offense at this point in the season. KVB and Haynesworth should have a field day against our OL as always (unless we can land a well placed cut block on Haynesworth*). This is a big game for Schaub since he was knocked out of both Tacks games last year and has yet to prove he can shake off a big hit and continue to play at a high level for the rest of the game.

I have high hopes for Schaub and I have high hopes for our squad so here's to the Texans pulling one out of their asses this weekend!!! :chickendance:



Good point I had forgotten about Schaub. Honestly, Schwartz and Fisher do such a bad job adjusting to a new QB mid-game that it may actually benefit you guys if Sage had to come in.

leebigeztx
09-16-2008, 11:08 AM
This is the one one time I'm rooting against the texans, but I would be happy if they won also. As well as the titans has looked, its a game the texans can win. Kubes has the team going right and as I've said before, just do denver.Pass to set up the run later. Pass on 1st down a lot with short,quick passes to set up 3rd and 3 or 4. Running the ball between Haynesworth and Brown is a lost cause. They can run at kearse, but they're fast to the edges. The texans should stack the box and run blitz with press coverage outside. If they can get up by 10, they can alter the titans game plan to run 40 times. I think its going to be a good game.

Back to "do denver", I just think the texans should get 50 yds a piece from 2 backs and 20-30 from the other. I don't know what walker has did not to earn a spot in the backfield. All he does is run effectively, block, and catch passes. I wouuld start him over a rookie who might get my qb killed. Denver has been effective running without the"franchise" back this season, why can't the texans and why are fans so possessed with that guy who might last 5 yrs or less anyway.

Norg
09-16-2008, 11:17 AM
We always play are divison games tough

we coming off a bye we are rested

and titans beat Cincy big woop

now its a divison game ITS GUT CHECK TIME !!!!!!!!

New_Texans
09-16-2008, 11:33 AM
im ready to see that steelers texans gameday thread fade into oblivion. bring on the tacks!

imatexan
09-16-2008, 01:50 PM
We not only have a chance but we will win!

Blazing Arrow
09-16-2008, 01:59 PM
Schaub needs to keep himself off the turf and not just when it comes to sacks. He sits like a deer in headlights getting rid of the ball just before getting crushed. If Haynsworth gets to him early I would be suprised if the Texans score more then 10 points.

Stop our run game and slow the pressure from the D and you might have a chance. I do not think you have the S to contain our run though.

El Tejano
09-16-2008, 02:34 PM
That whole Haynesworth vs. Meyer thing is kind of scary for me.

The Pencil Neck
09-16-2008, 02:40 PM
That whole Haynesworth vs. Meyer thing is kind of scary for me.

Haynesworth vs. Myers is going to be something to watch.

Chris Johnson in the open field scares me, too.

We're going to have to play hard and smart to win this one. I think it's a winnable game but it's going to be hard.

It kills me to say this but right now, the Titans are probably the cream of the division. They're the team to beat until Indy gets its o-line issues worked out.

toronto
09-16-2008, 02:44 PM
* Please note that I normally dont wish injury on a player but Haynesworth is a low class individual who has earned it.

He's come a long way since the Garude incident. No one, and I mean no one was angrier with him than me. Since then he has not only shown maturation, but he's become a genuine leader for the team.

So aside from the Schaub hit that IIRC was legal, what else makes him a lowlife? You know him personally?

Texan_Bill
09-16-2008, 02:47 PM
It kills me to say this but right now, the Titans are probably the cream of the division. They're the team to beat until Indy gets its o-line issues worked out.

Agree. They're strong in all 3 phases of the game. Their offense has a negative with the passing game, but their running game is more than enough.. (especially since our Defense can't stop a cold).

Norg
09-16-2008, 02:57 PM
Haynesworth vs. Myers is going to be something to watch.

Chris Johnson in the open field scares me, too.

We're going to have to play hard and smart to win this one. I think it's a winnable game but it's going to be hard.

It kills me to say this but right now, the Titans are probably the cream of the division. They're the team to beat until Indy gets its o-line issues worked out.

HAHAH we will see intill Tex TItans and Jags

Sweep the COlts in the RS IMO COlts are still king but that could all change this year

GP
09-16-2008, 03:11 PM
I think our defense, as a unit, is the worst it's EVER been.

Maybe that's an overstatement...but still, this is not a unit that looks good at all.

Anybody not named Mario or DeMeco is practically losing their individual battles on the field. Wouldn't it be fair to say that? Who else, on this defense, is going to match up OK with the guy lined up against them? Clock is ticking...but be rational in your reasoning (if you list someone else).

dalemurphy
09-16-2008, 03:21 PM
I think our defense, as a unit, is the worst it's EVER been.

Maybe that's an overstatement...but still, this is not a unit that looks good at all.

Anybody not named Mario or DeMeco is practically losing their individual battles on the field. Wouldn't it be fair to say that? Who else, on this defense, is going to match up OK with the guy lined up against them? Clock is ticking...but be rational in your reasoning (if you list someone else).

vs. pittsburgh, players that won individual battles:

Okoye
Reeves
Mario

losers:
Safeties
Greenwood
TJ
Bennett

Blazing Arrow
09-16-2008, 03:30 PM
So aside from the Schaub hit that IIRC was legal, what else makes him a lowlife? You know him personally?

This one?

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u13/BlazingArrow24/haynesworthdancingwithschaub.jpg

Texan_Bill
09-16-2008, 03:33 PM
vs. pittsburgh, players that won individual
battles:
Okoye
Reeves
Mario

wash: Okoye (I saw Okoye win some, but also lose some)

losers:
Safeties
Greenwood
TJ
Bennett

Pretty much how I saw it with my change being Okoye...

GP
09-16-2008, 03:33 PM
This one?

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u13/BlazingArrow24/haynesworthdancingwithschaub.jpg

Perfect "form tackle." IMO.

Doesn't get any more textbook than that. Well, maybe his head needs to be in Schaub's chest a little more.

awtysst
09-16-2008, 03:36 PM
This one?

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u13/BlazingArrow24/haynesworthdancingwithschaub.jpg

Awww, he is giving Schaub a hug. How cute!

Texan_Bill
09-16-2008, 03:42 PM
So aside from the Schaub hit that IIRC was legal, what else makes him a lowlife? You know him personally?

Well there was the incident where he kicked his own teamate in practice during camp and then the slamming of MJD where he was fined...

GuerillaBlack
09-16-2008, 03:46 PM
This won't be our gameday thread will it?

barrett
09-16-2008, 03:54 PM
my biggest concern will be containment on the outside. that will decide the game.

Señor Stan
09-16-2008, 04:14 PM
This one?

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u13/BlazingArrow24/haynesworthdancingwithschaub.jpg


Dang.

All this talk about Schaub being fragile yadayadayada....

I don't know of anyone that would not be injured with 350 lbs of Fat Albert being dropped on them.

With the placement of that helmet I can see why he injured his shoulder. If he would have caught him straight in the chest we could have been looking at a cracked sternum.

toronto
09-16-2008, 04:27 PM
I've been accused of many things on this board....

But an Albert apologist? Never. On the TOMB I skewered him after the Garude incident. I didn't want him back. I still can barely tolerate him and am fine with him leaving for a $40M signing bonus this off-season that some sucker is going to spend. In the meantime yeah, what can I do? He's on my favourite team and I want my team to win the Super Bowl, so on this one, I'll crawl into the mud and live with it....until January/Feb.

The Pencil Neck
09-16-2008, 04:47 PM
I've been accused of many things on this board....

But an Albert apologist? Never. On the TOMB I skewered him after the Garude incident. I didn't want him back. I still can barely tolerate him and am fine with him leaving for a $40M signing bonus this off-season that some sucker is going to spend. In the meantime yeah, what can I do? He's on my favourite team and I want my team to win the Super Bowl, so on this one, I'll crawl into the mud and live with it....until January/Feb.

Odd, I hadn't realized you were the enemy.

Texan_Bill
09-16-2008, 05:13 PM
I've been accused of many things on this board....

But an Albert apologist? Never. On the TOMB I skewered him after the Garude incident. I didn't want him back. I still can barely tolerate him and am fine with him leaving for a $40M signing bonus this off-season that some sucker is going to spend. In the meantime yeah, what can I do? He's on my favourite team and I want my team to win the Super Bowl, so on this one, I'll crawl into the mud and live with it....until January/Feb.
Dude, you've been in Canada waaaaaay too long...



Odd, I hadn't realized you were the enemy.
Lurk around the TOMB or GoTitans.com. You'll see him as Toronto Titan. But, he is an Astros fan... :)

Señor Stan
09-16-2008, 05:19 PM
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/senorstan/fatalbert.jpg

Hey, Hey, Haynesworth it's Fat Albert!

Dancerdog
09-16-2008, 05:56 PM
It's no doubt that the Titans are a physical team. However, I can see AJ, Walter & OD having a big day against them. Run a two TE set and keep Vonta close to Schaub and it could be a win. I don't think the Tacks are any more talented than we are. They have Haynesworth. We've got Mario. I see them as about equal talent wise. I expect a Texans upset. Stay tight in man coverage on their WR's. Stack 8 in the box.

brakos82
09-16-2008, 05:58 PM
It's no doubt that the Titans are a physical team. However, I can see AJ, Walter & OD having a big day against them. Run a two TE set and keep Vonta close to Schaub and it could be a win. I don't think the Tacks are any more talented than we are. They have Haynesworth. We've got Mario. I see them as about equal talent wise. I expect a Texans upset. Stay tight in man coverage on their WR's. Stack 8 in the box.

:spit:

Blazing Arrow
09-16-2008, 06:07 PM
Well there was the incident where he kicked his own teamate in practice during camp and then the slamming of MJD where he was fined...

The MJD thing was a BS witch hunt but the other incident is accurate. Justin Hartwig was the guy he stomped in practice BTW.

Blazing Arrow
09-16-2008, 06:12 PM
It's no doubt that the Titans are a physical team. However, I can see AJ, Walter & OD having a big day against them. Run a two TE set and keep Vonta close to Schaub and it could be a win. I don't think the Tacks are any more talented than we are. They have Haynesworth. We've got Mario. I see them as about equal talent wise. I expect a Texans upset. Stay tight in man coverage on their WR's. Stack 8 in the box.

AH and Mario are not even close to the same caliber. You have not watched many games or are a blind homer if you actually believe that. Hope/Griffin are A LOT better then the safeties on the Texans, w/out Dante you guys do not compare at CB, even at LB we still have a better set of three guys. Yes you have Ryans but we have Bulluck and Thornton.

We have a better run game better special teams. The only place you beat us is at QB/WR. And we proved last season we can break your line repeatedly. No time to pass you could have Rice and Carter out there and still not get a single pass off.

Blazing Arrow
09-16-2008, 06:14 PM
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/senorstan/fatalbert.jpg

Hey, Hey, Haynesworth it's Fat Albert!

The dark spot on the bottom of the jersey was actually caused by what was left of Shammy after the 1st game last season.

GP
09-16-2008, 06:23 PM
AH and Mario are not even close to the same caliber. You have not watched many games or are a blind homer if you actually believe that. Hope/Griffin are A LOT better then the safeties on the Texans, w/out Dante you guys do not compare at CB, even at LB we still have a better set of three guys. Yes you have Ryans but we have Bulluck and Thornton.

We have a better run game better special teams. The only place you beat us is at QB/WR. And we proved last season we can break your line repeatedly. No time to pass you could have Rice and Carter out there and still not get a single pass off.

Slow down a second.

Your team is 2-0 at the expense of two teams that resemble nothing of their previous years' glory.

You're starting to fluff your tail feathers out like a proud peacock. I imagine our guys are a little pissed off with the way we were hammered in week 1.

Throw in the emotions of not playing this past week, and the desire to let out some emotion(s)...and I think your Titans better squash us fast when the game begins.

Because if you don't rush out there and get a 21-point lead on us, our team is still capable of controlling the clock and methodically driving down the field and scoring points.

I expect some cockiness on your team, some expectations that are rolled over from last year's successes against us. And I think that'll be the undoing of your team.

So you might dial down the hype machine for a second here.

We used to beat the Jags all the time, too. It used to be "butter" for us...and last year was a situation where I think we expected to beat them going into the game. Without playing it first.

I think we beat your team this Sunday, in YOUR house, and that'll pour a little salt on the Vince Young wound that's become a national embarrassment to UT fans, and fans of "tough" football.

Besides, your logo is easily the most lame logo in the league (I mean, "what the hell IS that thing?), your owner is a quirky buffoon in a plaid leisure suit who drafted VY just to spite Houston, and outside of a blown call that landed you in a Super Bowl that you lost by a few feet...you haven't done crap in the post-season, rendering any of your regular season efforts useless. Let's not throw in the obvious "roll over and play dead" effort by the Colts last year that even LET you into the playoffs to begin with.

You've graced us enough with your presence, now go back to your home before your momma calls the cops to come looking for you. [/ass spanking]

gtexan02
09-16-2008, 07:08 PM
AH and Mario are not even close to the same caliber. You have not watched many games or are a blind homer if you actually believe that. Hope/Griffin are A LOT better then the safeties on the Texans, w/out Dante you guys do not compare at CB, even at LB we still have a better set of three guys. Yes you have Ryans but we have Bulluck and Thornton.

We have a better run game better special teams. The only place you beat us is at QB/WR. And we proved last season we can break your line repeatedly. No time to pass you could have Rice and Carter out there and still not get a single pass off.

Mario is at least a top 5 DE in the NFL. AH and MW being equal is definiately a fair comparison, if not favorable to Haynesworth

toronto
09-16-2008, 07:19 PM
Dude, you've been in Canada waaaaaay too long...




Lurk around the TOMB or GoTitans.com. You'll see him as Toronto Titan. But, he is an Astros fan... :)

NOPE...

On the TOMB I am madfantoronto....
I don't bother with any other board, don't have the time. Hell I spend almost as much time here arguing politics than I do talking football there. :bat:

and yes, I've spent too much time in Canada eh :)

Thorn
09-16-2008, 07:29 PM
and yes, I've spent too much time in Canada eh :)

If yall didn't have the phenomena known as real winters, I'd live up there myself. But I'll take my chances with the occasional hurricane as opposed to being snowed under every year. Snow is pretty to look at, not to live in. LOL

ReliantTexan
09-16-2008, 08:06 PM
AH and Mario are not even close to the same caliber. You have not watched many games or are a blind homer if you actually believe that. Hope/Griffin are A LOT better then the safeties on the Texans, w/out Dante you guys do not compare at CB, even at LB we still have a better set of three guys. Yes you have Ryans but we have Bulluck and Thornton.

Fat Al hasn't been considered a top DT until he had his best and only "Great" year which was last season, and that's a fact. Before that he was and still is an injury prone, dirty player with a bad work ethic. He's been a good player,but not even considered the best at his position until recently. Mario who's only 21,and entering his 3rd year, is already considered one of the best at his position, and has his best years still ahead of him.. I know it's hard to admit for titans fans, because of Young turning out to be a bust, you have to downplay Mario.

J-Russ
09-16-2008, 08:18 PM
Fat Al hasn't been considered a top DT until he had his best and only "Great" year which was last season, and that's a fact. Before that he was and still is an injury prone, dirty player with a bad work ethic. He's been a good player,but not even considered the best at his position until recently. Mario who's only 21,and entering his 3rd year, is already considered one of the best at his position, and has his best years still ahead of him.. I know it's hard to admit for titans fans, because of Young turning out to be a bust, you have to downplay Mario.

Yep, and don't forget he's already being mentioned as one of the top ten players in the NFL. With all that said, I find it quite ironic that you call us blind homers. absolutely comical.

ReliantTexan
09-16-2008, 08:33 PM
Yep, and don't forget he's already being mentioned as one of the top ten players in the NFL. With all that said, I find it quite ironic that you call us blind homers. absolutely comical.
I know, The Titans beat two teams (who are both 0-2 at ths point) and all of a sudden they're all that and a bag of chips. Not that I don't think they're a really good team, but it's not like they're some unbeatable juggernaut, last year we looked pretty good at this point to, so it's too early fro them to be so sure of themselves.

Texan JBZ
09-16-2008, 10:39 PM
I'm not calling any shots right now. Of course I want the Texans to win, but the Titans are the better team right now. Our o-line doesn't match up good at all against them except for Winston on Kearse. Brown is going to have his gameface glued on against Vanden Bosch. He never stops coming. Fat Al against Meyers is a mismatch. Rookie Jason Jones has looked good. Keith Bullock is the most underrated defensive player in the entire league and has been for about 5 years. He just always seems to make plays. Thornton is very athletic. Finnegan is a just a damn football player. Hope and Griffin are hawks and Harper is a vet. They have an aggressive playcaller in Jim Schwartz that will bring it all game against our line.

The key to success for our Texans will be to use their defensive aggressiveness against them. Hit em with screens and draws and quick passes to lighten their rush up, and then hit em deep with our speed at WR. It's going to be tough sledding against their front with the run game. Slaton does pose some matchup problems against their LBs with his speed and elusiveness. Kubes has to figure out a way to get him in the open field.

I don't even want to talk about our defense. We have Ryans and Williams, and that's about it. Bennett needs to play better, especially in run support. Okoye needs to do something, anything. After watching the way our defense played against the run in the Steelers game, I see the Titans having at least 35 rush attempts. If our front seven can't stop the run, it's going to be another ugly, frustrating game for us Texans fans.

In all, their defense is for real. We have to pass to step up the run. Schaub should have a solid game if the line can keep him clean, which will be difficult. Our defensive front seven has to play spectacular ball. They must find a way to contain Chris Johnson and eliminate the TEs from killing us in the middle of the field. This will definitely be a tough game for our Texans. If we can pull out a victory, it will go a long way a far as a confidence builder going into the next two games against the Jags and Colts (who both really are not playing well right now). :fans:

Bulluck53
09-16-2008, 10:40 PM
[/ass spanking]

You lost it when you brought out the logo smack... nice try though :goodpost:

The Jags probably were pissed about the way we ruined the start of their season last year and were probably emotional with the whole Richard Collier incident. Didn't work out too well for them, and they're a better team.

Everything BA has said is correct, it may seem a little bias, and it is, but its true. The breakdown he said is entirely correct, I don't see how anyone can dispute that. He was not bragging, he was stating what everyone who can look at it realistically would believe. That said, I personally think it will be a close game. What yall will have to do is slow down our rush and stop the run. Maybe a few screens here and there. Definitely a lot of three-step drops as they will try and protect Schaub. Our d-line is arguably deeper this year so don't expect that rush to slow down by itself.

Its going to be tough to stop that rush, though, because our run defense is so stout. Who ran the ball mostly in Pitt for you guys? Our corners are some of the best in the league when it comes to run D on the outside, not to mention a group of speedy linebackers. And you know what we have up the middle: Haynesworth, Tony Brown and Jason Jones (whom you should meet come Sunday), Stephen Tulloch (who had a good week 1 and struggled early on in Cincy) and Griffin and Hope.

Call it bragging, call it big-headed, call it over-confidence. I see those as facts that most should be able to agree with.

Is Slaton getting to play any?

Bulluck53
09-16-2008, 10:53 PM
The key to success for our Texans will be to use their defensive aggressiveness against them. Hit em with screens and draws and quick passes to lighten their rush up, and then hit em deep with our speed at WR. It's going to be tough sledding against their front with the run game. Slaton does pose some matchup problems against their LBs with his speed and elusiveness. Kubes has to figure out a way to get him in the open field.


I agree with everything you said except for the Slaton thing unless your talking through a screen. We have speed on the outside with Bulluck and Thornton, in the past we had a real problem with speedy backs of the Slaton type but I don't think that's been as much of a problem the last few years with the emergence of Finnegan and Harper providing contain on the outside. They have a knack for reading run, stepping up and forcing the guy inside where Thornton/Bulluck will have a beat on them. That said, I definitely won't rule out a big run or two because speed is a scary thing no matter who you have defending it.

You're 100% correct about going over the top and I think that's where we are most vulnerable on defense. Griffin hasn't played the long ball well at all this preseason or the first two weeks so we'll see how he does if Schaub has enough time to get the ball off. That's why it hasn't hurt us this far, the pass rush has been so dominant that they haven't had time to make an accurate throw. Harper is especially vulnerable with his speed deficiency and Schwartz doesn't rotate our corners so if Johnson lines up across from him I can definitely see the mismatch.

Blazing Arrow
09-16-2008, 11:38 PM
Slow down a second.

Your team is 2-0 at the expense of two teams that resemble nothing of their previous years' glory.

You're starting to fluff your tail feathers out like a proud peacock. I imagine our guys are a little pissed off with the way we were hammered in week 1.

Throw in the emotions of not playing this past week, and the desire to let out some emotion(s)...and I think your Titans better squash us fast when the game begins.

You respond to me then down rep me. Classy! :challenge

Either man up to the post or don't. In response to this post though:

Pissed off or not that does not make a mid line player better. I am not saying the Texans have not improved but I don't really think Schaub is the answer. Your D is not there and defiantly not there without Robinson in the secondary. Trust me as a Titan fan I have seen some poor S play and it kills every level of the D. Until the Texans get a legitimate S that can play the run and cover to support against the pass they will not be a playoff team IMO.


Because if you don't rush out there and get a 21-point lead on us, our team is still capable of controlling the clock and methodically driving down the field and scoring points.

:mcnugget:

I guess you think we are cocky because we can play Fisher Ball? As your D sits right now I think we put up 24 points through air and ground. I think Johnson will wear down your LBs chasing him down, L-Dub will pound a so far soft run D, and Collins will sprinkle in enough passes to keep the ball moving.

I expect some cockiness on your team, some expectations that are rolled over from last year's successes against us. And I think that'll be the undoing of your team.

So you might dial down the hype machine for a second here.

We used to beat the Jags all the time, too. It used to be "butter" for us...and last year was a situation where I think we expected to beat them going into the game. Without playing it first.

We were ranked 5th in D last season. We are ranked #1 going into this game. Jagaurs were ESPNs love child and we took the to the taxidermist The Bengles we gave to Sigrid and Roy. What do you think Omaha Steaks is going to do with you this week? :shades:


I think we beat your team this Sunday, in YOUR house, and that'll pour a little salt on the Vince Young wound that's become a national embarrassment to UT fans, and fans of "tough" football.

Based on what?

Besides, your logo is easily the most lame logo in the league (I mean, "what the hell IS that thing?), your owner is a quirky buffoon in a plaid leisure suit who drafted VY just to spite Houston, and outside of a blown call that landed you in a Super Bowl that you lost by a few feet...you haven't done crap in the post-season, rendering any of your regular season efforts useless. Let's not throw in the obvious "roll over and play dead" effort by the Colts last year that even LET you into the playoffs to begin with.

You've graced us enough with your presence, now go back to your home before your momma calls the cops to come looking for you. [/ass spanking]

How was the pick to 'spite Houston'? As I recall we drafted after you. Poor choice maybe but do you honestly think Young would have stayed in play until the Texans came back around to pick?

Better to be at the Super Bowl and see what it is like then sit on a team for 6 years that has not even broken the .500 barrier Yeah yeah yeah 40+ without a title. But a winning season and just the chance in the playoffs feels pretty good too.

Its all fun and games man, I am just offering a different opinion.

You want to bet your sig for a month on the game since you think you will win?

Blazing Arrow
09-16-2008, 11:43 PM
Mario is at least a top 5 DE in the NFL. AH and MW being equal is definiately a fair comparison, if not favorable to Haynesworth

I am not doubting Williams skill as a player. I don't think I have said that in any posts. I am just stating when AH is on his game he is unstoppable. This is a division game and he is getting paid by the play. :kingkong:

Blazing Arrow
09-16-2008, 11:48 PM
Fat Al hasn't been considered a top DT until he had his best and only "Great" year which was last season, and that's a fact. Before that he was and still is an injury prone, dirty player with a bad work ethic. He's been a good player,but not even considered the best at his position until recently. Mario who's only 21,and entering his 3rd year, is already considered one of the best at his position, and has his best years still ahead of him.. I know it's hard to admit for titans fans, because of Young turning out to be a bust, you have to downplay Mario.

I never down played the guy. Watch last years Carolina game and tell me you can not see what AH can do. Rewatch the 1st Texans Titans game last season. He went through your line like it was not even there. I agree with all the lazy comments but he is playing for money right now. I would love if we gave him some ridiculous incentive based contract. You would see the greatest DT that would even play.

LonerATO
09-17-2008, 01:27 AM
I cant even begin to explain on how much I hate your Titans and I mean words arent even enough. I mean call me crazy but I don't even get mad if the Texans lose to the Titans or vice a verse. The fact that the Titans even exist makes me sick and no matter how many years pass you are still playing in this league with a stolen team colors and all. I am sure the Browns fans feel the same way about the Ravens but at least the city was able to retain the name and records good ol Bud had to have everything. I despise anything and everything the Titans stand for and their crappy ass owner. Please feel free to tell your owner to keep using a slogan that isn't his aka "Luv ya blue" and oh its pretty cheap also. You can call me childish you can say I cant get over the fact that the Oilers are gone and hey some of that is true.

http://www.titansproshop.com/main_detail.cfm?nProductID=3254&sAuxTitle=Luv%20Ya%20Blue%20Note%20Pad

Blazing Arrow
09-17-2008, 01:30 AM
I am an Oilers fan ...

Wolf
09-17-2008, 02:01 AM
I am an Oilers fan ...

Edmonton had an awesome run in the '80's with that Gretsky fellow


on a serious note. I can't say this is make or break for our defensive coordinator but if we lay another goose egg on the defensive side of the ball .. the howling needs to get louder

AMMOTITAN
09-17-2008, 06:42 AM
Ahhh my poor poor Texan fans. While I feel for everything your going for with the Hurricane and all, I hope we smash your team into the Dirt. While reading this thread, I see lots of Stop the run, stop the run, ect ect. Vince isnt back there any more. Watch what Ole Kerry does to you this weekend.

Before I show any more homerism to my titans, let me pay your team the respect it deserves. You have TWO outstanding defensive players in Williams and Ryans. Absolute BEAST. I also think AJ is a top 5 WR and wish we had him (maybe a VY for AJ trade??? LOL)

With that being said....overall you guys are horrible. I thought this would be the year you bounced back and MAYBE took second place in the division. The colts are on a downward spiral, and the jags are following them. BUTTTT........it doesnt look like you aquired a RB, or a OLINE that can block. Without that....against the BEST DLINE in the league (AH, KVB, THE FREAK, and Tony Brown) your in for a LONG game on Defense and short one with the ball this Sunday. I will be upset if we dont get 5 Sacks and two turnovers.

Chris Johnson.....do I need to say more?? If you dont know who this guy is, look him up on Youtube, or look at the stat line.

Señor Stan
09-17-2008, 08:53 AM
Ahhh my poor poor Texan fans. While I feel for everything your going for with the Hurricane and all, I hope we smash your team into the Dirt. While reading this thread, I see lots of Stop the run, stop the run, ect ect. Vince isnt back there any more. Watch what Ole Kerry does to you this weekend.


Wait a minute.

Who posted this a while back?


http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=523288&postcount=6


Oh yeah...that was YOU!

Young is the REAL DEAL! He does make some bad throws, but he does make some good ones too!!!!

So, when Kerry Collins plays like, well, Kerry Collins are you going to come start the Chris Simms is the REAL DEAL thread?

AMMOTITAN
09-17-2008, 08:58 AM
My point was, that Vince was much more a Running Threat than Kerry, who throws a much more accurate ball.

Besides, that post was made before Vince Young went mental...I mean come on....who can predict something like that was going to happen.

So instead of worrying about what I posted a year ago, you should really worry about weather your team should even play this game.....

Señor Stan
09-17-2008, 09:05 AM
Besides, that post was made before Vince Young went mental...I mean come on....who can predict something like that was going to happen.


One clue is when your QBs jersey number is higher than his Wonderlic


So instead of worrying about what I posted a year ago, you should really worry about weather your team should even play this game.....

Hurricane smack? Really? There are plenty of threads that are talking about that very thing. This is the Texans vs. Tacks thread.


You are on a Texans message board running smack. Don't be surprised when people don't agree with you or call you out on something.

Runner
09-17-2008, 09:20 AM
There is a forum for smack talk everyone. Let's not pollute this one with puerile comments that belong there.

Runner
09-17-2008, 09:24 AM
Hurricane smack? Really? There are plenty of threads that are talking about that very thing. This is the Texans vs. Tacks thread.


I don't think the inability to spell whether was hurricane smack.

GP
09-17-2008, 10:09 AM
Its all fun and games man, I am just offering a different opinion.

No, you're just obsessed with our team. I wouldn't spend ONE FREAKING SECOND at "your" board. But here you are, loitering in our parking lot after midnight all the time.

Seems VY is gender-confused and it seems that you're team-confused.

You didn't even have a team until Bud Adams UPS'd his team to Tennessee. Bud will grow tired of Tennessee some day, and you won't have a team anymore. Think on that for a second or two.

All it will take is for the league to decide they want another team in California, such as L.A., and Bud will invent a list of offenses to throw at your city...and he'll be gone with the team, following that California money and larger market exposure.

I hope we smash the Titans because I am tired of you acting one way one second, and then turning around and acting like an ass the very next (and expecting us to welcome you back all the time). Don't take advantage of our Texas hospitality because it's a short lease once you try and get cute with us.

GP
09-17-2008, 10:16 AM
My point was, that Vince was much more a Running Threat than Kerry, who throws a much more accurate ball.

Besides, that post was made before Vince Young went mental...I mean come on....who can predict something like that was going to happen.

So instead of worrying about what I posted a year ago, you should really worry about weather your team should even play this game.....

Yeah, it was a real shocker. :spit:

Vince is a one-trick pony, and it's caught up with him. I think people saw that aspect of his game a long, long time ago. The guy used his one trick to beat a college team, and it doesn't translate to the Pro game.

Vince bought all the hype that was thrown at the NFL's fan base. He cashed a check he wasn't good for. This ends one way: He's done.

So much for your franchise QB. He had one highlight against a team he was supposedly going to "haunt" for the next 15 years: Running it into the end zone against us, and acting the fool with his celebration. Well, I guess that'll never happen again. I hope you have it DVR'd so you can watch it.

Time to start looking at Kiper's best-available QBs. Again.

Texans_Chick
09-17-2008, 10:42 AM
Interesting game.

Generally the teams have had a number of very close games.

We really do not know much about this Texans team. Clearly they struggled against Pittsburgh--a team with a good QB, good D, plays well at home.

Instead of getting their feet under them against the Ravens, they are playing in division on the road after a necessary break.

I guess based on what we know, the big matchups have to be:

Texans offensive line versus Titans defensive line.

Whether the Texans offense can hold onto the ball or give the Titans easy points.

Whether the Texans defense can be disciplined against a team that can run and has speed.

How the Texans respond to the hurricane. Fired up or messed up.

spurstexanstros
09-17-2008, 10:54 AM
There is a forum for smack talk everyone. Let's not pollute this one with puerile comments that belong there.
Ok where is that? it seems everywhere you go someone gets sensitive about something. Or maybe I am only one with thick skin since I took it hard for years for being a fan of our former QB. Smack is smack whenever you have opposing opinions. People shouldnt be so sensitive.
No, you're just obsessed with our team. I wouldn't spend ONE FREAKING SECOND at "your" board. But here you are, loitering in our parking lot after midnight all the time.
Seems VY is gender-confused and it seems that you're team-confused.

You didn't even have a team until Bud Adams UPS'd his team to Tennessee. Bud will grow tired of Tennessee some day, and you won't have a team anymore. Think on that for a second or two.

All it will take is for the league to decide they want another team in California, such as L.A., and Bud will invent a list of offenses to throw at your city...and he'll be gone with the team, following that California money and larger market exposure.

I hope we smash the Titans because I am tired of you acting one way one second, and then turning around and acting like an ass the very next (and expecting us to welcome you back all the time). Don't take advantage of our Texas hospitality because it's a short lease once you try and get cute with us.
This is Grade A quality smack and it is the point that myself and others have been trying to make for years. Visitors come in here insult team city and state and if anyone steps up and offers some smack in return, we get benched , posts yanked or even worse banned for life. I just dont understand.
Yeah, it was a real shocker. :spit:

Vince is a one-trick pony, and it's caught up with him. I think people saw that aspect of his game a long, long time ago. The guy used his one trick to beat a college team, and it doesn't translate to the Pro game.

Vince bought all the hype that was thrown at the NFL's fan base. He cashed a check he wasn't good for. This ends one way: He's done.

So much for your franchise QB. He had one highlight against a team he was supposedly going to "haunt" for the next 15 years: Running it into the end zone against us, and acting the fool with his celebration. Well, I guess that'll never happen again. I hope you have it DVR'd so you can watch it.

Time to start looking at Kiper's best-available QBs. Again.

And that is what we call a burn. the Titans are the one organization to run smack against.
However, since I dont want to get banned from any of the Texans sites. I will stick to the following lines:
The Titans organization is not as good as the Texans organization.
The Titans organization lacks moral terpitude.
The level of class that Titan fan displays provides my stomach some discomfort.

Thank you.... and have a nice day:fans:

Bulluck53
09-17-2008, 11:01 AM
No, you're just obsessed with our team. I wouldn't spend ONE FREAKING SECOND at "your" board. But here you are, loitering in our parking lot after midnight all the time.

Seems VY is gender-confused and it seems that you're team-confused.

You didn't even have a team until Bud Adams UPS'd his team to Tennessee. Bud will grow tired of Tennessee some day, and you won't have a team anymore. Think on that for a second or two.

All it will take is for the league to decide they want another team in California, such as L.A., and Bud will invent a list of offenses to throw at your city...and he'll be gone with the team, following that California money and larger market exposure.

I hope we smash the Titans because I am tired of you acting one way one second, and then turning around and acting like an ass the very next (and expecting us to welcome you back all the time). Don't take advantage of our Texas hospitality because it's a short lease once you try and get cute with us.


I know this wasn't directed at me but I'll try and tackle it anyway.

So because we come over here looking for discussion about a football game we are obsessed with the Texans? Now you'll say that BA and I, mostly BA, are here all the time. Well yea, that's because its a good message board. Its good for discussion, its good for a friendly smack talk between two rivals, and I see our presence here as a testament to that.

This board is a lot more welcoming than other teams because there aren't many poster like you who refuse to partake in a discussion because we root for a different team. Luckily, TexansTalk isn't infested with that kind of fan, only a few like you want to make it hard to get new members from other teams.

Tats why I frequent message boards that are simply for NFL fans rather than specific teams. It provides for better conversation instead of the normal bias that is spewed on teams sites. I feel like this is in the former's mold, an opposing fan can come here and talk football without being persecuted for being a rival.

If you don't like what we have to say then oppose it in a post, that's how discussions are started. Don't come in here and jump all over us for wanting to talk football.

Sorry to jump in there but that's annoying as hell.

HOU-TEX
09-17-2008, 11:02 AM
Interesting game.

Generally the teams have had a number of very close games.

We really do not know much about this Texans team. Clearly they struggled against Pittsburgh--a team with a good QB, good D, plays well at home.

Instead of getting their feet under them against the Ravens, they are playing in division on the road after a necessary break.

I guess based on what we know, the big matchups have to be:

Texans offensive line versus Titans defensive line.

Whether the Texans offense can hold onto the ball or give the Titans easy points.

Whether the Texans defense can be disciplined against a team that can run and has speed.

How the Texans respond to the hurricane. Fired up or messed up.

Yeah, you have to wonder if their heads will be in the game or not. I know I'm really not in mode right now, but getting back to this board is nice. :)

Dancerdog
09-17-2008, 11:25 AM
I would like to see Andre Davis and Jacoby Jones get some play in this game. I can't see any of the Tacks DB's staying with them on deep routes. Just don't match up as far as speed is concerned. Of course we probably won't see either of them play a single down. I could be wrong about that, but what a shame not to utilize that to our advantage.

AMMOTITAN
09-17-2008, 11:31 AM
So where is this Smack board so I dont offend anyone?

Señor Stan
09-17-2008, 11:35 AM
So where is this Smack board so I dont offend anyone?

Here, knock yourself out.

Rivalry Talk (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=52)

Titan/Texan smack thread (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53627)



No, really, I mean that literally. :whip:

AMMOTITAN
09-17-2008, 11:45 AM
One clue is when your QBs jersey number is higher than his Wonderlic




Hurricane smack? Really? There are plenty of threads that are talking about that very thing. This is the Texans vs. Tacks thread.


You are on a Texans message board running smack. Don't be surprised when people don't agree with you or call you out on something.

I would like to see Andre Davis and Jacoby Jones get some play in this game. I can't see any of the Tacks DB's staying with them on deep routes. Just don't match up as far as speed is concerned. Of course we probably won't see either of them play a single down. I could be wrong about that, but what a shame not to utilize that to our advantage.

While I dont think anyone can match up with AJ one on one, Finnegan will play him tough. As far as the other two.......Griff and Hope over the top help out quite a bit, cause Harper needs it. Harper is tough against the run, but not against the pass. If your QB gets time to throw he could pick us apart. But getting time...thats the problem.

Blazing Arrow
09-17-2008, 12:30 PM
No, you're just obsessed with our team. I wouldn't spend ONE FREAKING SECOND at "your" board. But here you are, loitering in our parking lot after midnight all the time.

Don't kid yourself; I visit all of the AFC South teams boards. This just happens to be Texans week.

Seems VY is gender-confused and it seems that you're team-confused.

Now you are running smack on a player that will not see the field. What bearing does he have on the outcome? I can see how my comments would have stung a bit but I do not think I really ran 'smack' about them in this thread. I gave an opinion which though most of you will not admit was pretty close to how you actually feel if you were to take an unbias look at both teams.

You didn't even have a team until Bud Adams UPS'd his team to Tennessee. Bud will grow tired of Tennessee some day, and you won't have a team anymore. Think on that for a second or two.

I was an Oilers fan before the move and a Titans fan after. I have made that pretty clear and have no issues hiding it. If this team moves to LA and become the Los Angels Dynamite, I will then be a LA Dynamite fan. I am not loyal to the city but loyal to the memories I have of the team growing up. A rose by any other name and all that.

All it will take is for the league to decide they want another team in California, such as L.A., and Bud will invent a list of offenses to throw at your city...and he'll be gone with the team, following that California money and larger market exposure.

Good I live in CA. Maybe I would get to see more games?

I hope we smash the Titans because I am tired of you acting one way one second, and then turning around and acting like an ass the very next (and expecting us to welcome you back all the time). Don't take advantage of our Texas hospitality because it's a short lease once you try and get cute with us.

Noticed you avoided everything close to football conversation, smart move. I added that last line to try and ease the tension you seem to be all up in arms about me daring to have a differing opinion on the game. I broke down what I feel the two teams have to offer. You have offered little more then 'cuz' as a response.

Texan_Bill
09-17-2008, 12:37 PM
The MJD thing was a BS witch hunt but the other incident is accurate. Justin Hartwig was the guy he stomped in practice BTW.

The MJD thing was iffy. I wouldn't say BS though.

Justin Hartwig. Thanks forgot who it was.

spurstexanstros
09-17-2008, 12:48 PM
The Titans are gonna loose because the Texans are gonna be fired up to bring some cheer to a devastated region. Kerry Collins is gonna feel two weeks of pent up frustration rain down on him in the form of Mario Williams. Steve Slaton is gonna keep your line honest and in run stop mode. Our vastly improved passing attack will take advantage of your blitzing schems with quick passes to our TE Owen Daniels, Kevin Walter and both ANDREs. You see the Texans have what are called Wide Receivers, your team may not be familiar with the term, but they are commonly used in the NFL.
If you do figure out to use yours and pass the ball, the Texans no longer have to fear the passing attack since they have perfected the "hide the Petey Faggins" game.
Texans 21- titans 10

As for my smack!!!!
The Titans organization is not as good as the Texans organization.
The Titans organization lacks moral terpitude.
The level of class that Titan fan displays provides my stomach some discomfort

GP
09-17-2008, 01:04 PM
Don't kid yourself; I visit all of the AFC South teams boards. This just happens to be Texans week.

You're here a lot more than just when it's Texans week. Give me a break with that one. Now you're distorting your visitation frequency on here, trying to shrug your shoulders and do the "What, me?" act.

And as far as your argument goes, on the "I was an Oilers fan..," maybe that's true. But I don't live in Houston, either. And when Bud decided to take the team from TEXAS...I freaking GAVE UP on NFL football. Period. I made a vow to remain "NFL celibate" until we got a team back. Bud Adams doesn't know anything about making vows or keeping his word, or being honorable. He's a bad suit with a lump of excrement inside it. And if you want to worship him and his team, then all I got to say is "Okey-dokey!" Have at it.

You apparently don't live in Texas, so you're right when you say that your allegiance to a team is not built on where they are at. But here's a news flash for you: The vast majority of Texans fans were loyal Oilers fans, inside Texas, who had their team ripped from them. Maybe you don't have the same feelings as us, but for you to basically minimize our feelings with your comments of how you "don't have an allegiance to a team because of memories or where it's located" is enough for me to flame your posts forever. Every chance I get.

This is our house. So quit pee'ing on the furniture, please.

Say what you want, reply what you want. I'm done with this particular thread. You'll continue to act passive-aggressive, as if you're just talking football talk and we're misunderstanding you, and I'll continue to smack right back at ya'.

Blazing Arrow
09-17-2008, 01:23 PM
As for my smack!!!!
The Titans organization is not as good as the Texans organization.
The Titans organization lacks moral terpitude.
The level of class that Titan fan displays provides my stomach some discomfort

It's not smack if you can back it.

The Titans organization has made multiple playoff appearances including a Super Bowl appearance. We are 10-2 against the Texans and have actually had a winning season. I disagree with your first comment based on these facts.

It's actually spelled "turpitude". Name a player on our current roster that that applies too? We have had trouble players in the past and we cut them. AH has had issues but has also served his suspension, taken classes on anger management and seems to have at least kept his anger in check on the field since the incindent. I fail to see who you are talking about on our team.

You are entitled to your own opinion about the fan base but I do not see and grounds for it. When the boards merged I was in the suggestions thread trying to give input to help the site get better.

Texan_Bill
09-17-2008, 01:25 PM
NOPE...

On the TOMB I am madfantoronto....
I don't bother with any other board, don't have the time. Hell I spend almost as much time here arguing politics than I do talking football there. :bat:

and yes, I've spent too much time in Canada eh :)

hmmm. There is a Toronto Titan for sure on gotits.com

ziggy29
09-17-2008, 01:57 PM
My point was, that Vince was much more a Running Threat than Kerry, who throws a much more accurate ball.

Besides, that post was made before Vince Young went mental...I mean come on....who can predict something like that was going to happen.
But from the standpoint of Texans fans in Austin, at least maybe VY's meltdown and benchwarming means KEYE might have to stop worshipping at the altar of Saint Vincent for a few weeks and actually show games featuring a Texas football team.

spurstexanstros
09-17-2008, 02:19 PM
It's not smack if you can back it.

The Titans organization has made multiple playoff appearances including a Super Bowl appearance. We are 10-2 against the Texans and have actually had a winning season. I disagree with your first comment based on these facts.

It's actually spelled "turpitude". Name a player on our current roster that that applies too? We have had trouble players in the past and we cut them. AH has had issues but has also served his suspension, taken classes on anger management and seems to have at least kept his anger in check on the field since the incindent. I fail to see who you are talking about on our team.

You are entitled to your own opinion about the fan base but I do not see and grounds for it. When the boards merged I was in the suggestions thread trying to give input to help the site get better.

Excuse the fact that my spell check is on the fritz(sheesh)........ as to for who it pertains to.......hmmmmmmmm Albert " likes to stomp" Haynesworth. Vince Young, LenDale White and most importantly........ Bud Adams. He is the example of the lack of moral TURPitude.

Hey I enjoy the smack when titan fans come here, I encourage a little running at each other, its fun. What I dont like is Titan fan coming here starting smack and then running and hiding behind the mods fearful of an offensive response. Remeber, its Titan fan that comes around and starts it, They run hurricane smack or we stole your team smack, or how do you like our hall of famer Warren Moon smack. I would love to get into it, but for here its football tqalk and the only smack I have for you here is.

The Titans organization is not as good as the Texans organization.
The Titans organization lacks moral tUrpitude.
The level of class that Titan fan displays provides my stomach some discomfort

Runner
09-17-2008, 02:30 PM
Ok where is that? it seems everywhere you go someone gets sensitive about something. Or maybe I am only one with thick skin since I took it hard for years for being a fan of our former QB. Smack is smack whenever you have opposing opinions. People shouldnt be so sensitive.
...

However, since I dont want to get banned from any of the Texans sites. I will stick to the following lines:



It has nothing to do with sensitivity or thick skin. We want to reserve this forum for intelligent football talk and put the more inane stuff in a separate area where those who don't care to see it can easily avoid it. It doesn't gain a poster anyting to put the trash in the main threads unless they are just looking for more attention anyway.

As for the second point, no one talked about banning anyone. I just asked for a little cooperation. We are trying to have a good on-line community here, and posting topics in appropriate threads doesn't seem to big a burden to someone "skilled" enough to talk trash.

Just for emphasis, here is the forum again:
Here, knock yourself out.

Rivalry Talk (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=52)

Titan/Texan smack thread (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53627)

Runner
09-17-2008, 02:35 PM
Hey I enjoy the smack when titan fans come here, I encourage a little running at each other, its fun. What I dont like is Titan fan coming here starting smack and then running and hiding behind the mods fearful of an offensive response.


Nobody came running to the mods for help. I found the posts to be juvenile and in the wrong place all by myself.

spurstexanstros
09-17-2008, 04:00 PM
It has nothing to do with sensitivity or thick skin. We want to reserve this forum for intelligent football talk and put the more inane stuff in a separate area where those who don't care to see it can easily avoid it. It doesn't gain a poster anyting to put the trash in the main threads unless they are just looking for more attention anyway.

As for the second point, no one talked about banning anyone. I just asked for a little cooperation. We are trying to have a good on-line community here, and posting topics in appropriate threads doesn't seem to big a burden to someone "skilled" enough to talk trash.

Just for emphasis, here is the forum again:

Nobody came running to the mods for help. I found the posts to be juvenile and in the wrong place all by myself.

No Problem, I think its great, yall do a great job but if titan fan comes running smack stirring things he may meet with resistance. Its great that there is smack talk section. Take everything with a grain of salt this week the football and the personal are merged this week. Smack will run in a non smack area and vice versa. The wounds between these two orgaizations runs deep. Its not that we are immature or less skilled, its due to the fact that this organization is the one the Texans are playing this week and it may overlap into digs into each other. This is an extra ordinary week for Team, cities and state. I was just making point that people shouldnt be so sensitive to what belongs in what area and be a little less sensitive. Some emotional responses to a thread is okay... as long as they are not a direct attack. I dont think there is a problem with a little trash talking outside of acceptable areas from time to time.

Blazing Arrow
09-17-2008, 04:06 PM
Excuse the fact that my spell check is on the fritz(sheesh)........ as to for who it pertains to.......hmmmmmmmm Albert " likes to stomp" Haynesworth. Vince Young, LenDale White and most importantly........ Bud Adams. He is the example of the lack of moral TURPitude.

AH can not server his time and get a second chance? As I stated he served his time, he went to anger management and the events have not happened again. Eventually you have to move on from it.

Young is nothing more then lost and cracking under the pressure. I am not sure how that fits in the mold of:

"extreme immorality or wickedness"

What has L-Dub done exactly or are you judging him on the way he looks and dresses?

Hey I enjoy the smack when titan fans come here, I encourage a little running at each other, its fun. What I dont like is Titan fan coming here starting smack and then running and hiding behind the mods fearful of an offensive response. Remeber, its Titan fan that comes around and starts it, They run hurricane smack or we stole your team smack, or how do you like our hall of famer Warren Moon smack. I would love to get into it, but for here its football talk and the only smack I have for you here is.

Who is hiding behind a mod? Last I checked both Bulluck53 and myself got our posts deleted in reply to GP. Neither of us slammed him but stated our case. I did not really see hurricane smack. Wishing that everyone is ok is not smack in my book. And I do not remember posting anything about 'stealing your team' ... it was my team then too. Don't put words in the mouths of posters. Not all Titans fans are alike as not all Texans fans are alike. Take the time to read the post and respond.

spurstexanstros
09-17-2008, 04:22 PM
AH can not server his time and get a second chance? As I stated he served his time, he went to anger management and the events have not happened again. Eventually you have to move on from it. [/B[B]]( which time?)
Young is nothing more then lost and cracking under the pressure. I am not sure how that fits in the mold of:(And this guy was supposed to be our Savior)
"extreme immorality or wickedness"(pulled out the webster huh?)

What has L-Dub done exactly or are you judging him on the way he looks and dresses? Really I know you are not going there..... I am refering to locker room problems.. but your right he or vince have not excercised the best of judgement and do not exhibit...."extreme immorality or wickedness"
Who is hiding behind a mod? Last I checked both Bulluck53 and myself got our posts deleted in reply to GP. ( i wasnt saying you specifically, but if I didnt communicate that well I apologize) Not all Titans fans are alike as not all Texans fans are alike. ( yup its our team vs yours a Titan fan is a Titans fan , all the same , but at least your not Cowboys fan) Take the time to read the post and respond.

i have a thick skin so... It doesnt bother me if we mix it up . I know its not personal.... Its this week so lets freaking enjoy it talking football and running smack. its great.... Actually I am supposed to be working!!!!:fans: oooh that talking within your quote didnt turn out as pretty as I expected.

El cabezon
09-17-2008, 04:50 PM
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/senorstan/fatalbert.jpg

Hey, Hey, Haynesworth it's Fat Albert!

As much as I dislike the Titans I wouldn't mind going after Mr. Haynesworth if he becomes a free agent, a defensive line of Mario and Haynesworth would be great.

Bulluck53
09-17-2008, 04:58 PM
Last I checked both Bulluck53 and myself got our posts deleted in reply to GP.

They delete our posts? Really? Oh well...

Anyways, lets talk football instead of politics here now that a certain someone has vowed not to grace this thread with his presence.

How much has Slaton been used in your game plan?

Double Barrel
09-17-2008, 05:03 PM
I'm a big Texans fanatic, and hope with all my heart and soul every week that they win.

But I'm not a blind homer (not that there's anything wrong with that). And after suffering through that Steelers game that our team failed to show up for, I don't have a lot to say in the way of believing that the Texans will win this next game.

The Titans look to be a good team right now, and could be the division winners when the dust settles. The Texans will have to play their hearts out to compete, and I'm just not sure where their hearts beat right now.

Thorn
09-17-2008, 05:18 PM
They delete our posts? Really? Oh well...

Anyways, lets talk football instead of politics here now that a certain someone has vowed not to grace this thread with his presence.

How much has Slaton been used in your game plan?

Slaton is getting a lot of time because we don't have anyone else any better than him that is healthy.

Personally, I think the Texans are in for an ass whoopin' this Sunday, but I hope they at least show up for the game. The Texans are not a good team yet, but they are also not a door mat like they used to be. We have a few really great players, some that are OK, and they rest of 'em aren't worth a crap.

But I love my Texans anyway. :fans:

The Pencil Neck
09-17-2008, 05:27 PM
How much has Slaton been used in your game plan?

They really wanted Green to be the feature back and then work Slaton in slowly primarily in 3rd down situations working the edges, getting him out in space, etc. But now he's going to be used like The Man. They'll try to get him 15-20 carries and it's going to be between the tackles as well as outside.

So far, he hasn't looked as good in the passing game as a receiver as expected.

Bulluck53
09-17-2008, 09:45 PM
Hmm... I think he would be most effective as a receiver out of the backfield. In don't know he could bust a few a la CJ. Speed is a dangerous thing.

Señor Stan
09-18-2008, 09:31 AM
It's actually spelled "turpitude".

Terpitude is a University of Maryland fan with an attitude.

Tarpitude is defined the level of support that the Jacksonville Jaguars receive from their fanbase that requires tarps placed on all the empty seats.


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b252/Amberlybutterfly/Texans%20Signatures%20and%20pics/jagstarp.gif

Dancerdog
09-18-2008, 11:15 AM
When Mario is all over Collins, then we'll see how accurate he is with his passes. I look for Amobe to have a big game. He's overdue to become a force against opposing defenses. AJ, Walter and Andre are gonna step up and have a great game against the Tacks. I can't wait until Sunday to see it. Don't underestimate the Texans. They are primed to surprise many around the league. Slaton may have a 100 yd. day.

spurstexanstros
09-18-2008, 12:01 PM
Terpitude is a University of Maryland fan with an attitude.

Tarpitude is defined the level of support that the Jacksonville Jaguars receive from their fanbase that requires tarps placed on all the empty seats.


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b252/Amberlybutterfly/Texans%20Signatures%20and%20pics/jagstarp.gif

Ok First, someone calls VY "Radio". Frost bank at UTSA is giving away Bill Millers BBQ and now this.... tarpitude.... this is a freaking awesome day. I am gonna get fired for laughing .... but still a good day.

Blazing Arrow
09-18-2008, 12:42 PM
i have a thick skin so... It doesnt bother me if we mix it up . I know its not personal.... Its this week so lets freaking enjoy it talking football and running smack. its great.... Actually I am supposed to be working!!!!:fans: oooh that talking within your quote didnt turn out as pretty as I expected.

AH is two years out of the stomp incident. In the NFL that is time.

What I fail to see in this thread is anyone giving a solid reason that they think the Texans might win. Yeah any given Sunday and all of that but really? All the arrows are pointing to a Titans win. I guess it could happen but I doubt it.

Who is the 3rd QB in case something happens to Shammy and Sage?

Polo
09-18-2008, 12:44 PM
Who is the 3rd QB in case something happens to Shammy and Sage?

Who is your second QB if something happens to Collins ?

Blazing Arrow
09-18-2008, 12:53 PM
As Texans fans are any of you upset with the amount of effort by the FO to obtain a quality RB in your back field. Slaton has not really proven to be a #1 back and Green is running on empty. Turner was available in the off season and I do not recall the Texans making any moves to try and get him.

gwallaia
09-18-2008, 12:55 PM
As Texans fans are any of you upset with the amount of effort by the FO to obtain a quality RB in your back field. Slaton has not really proven to be a #1 back and Green is running on empty. Turner was available in the off season and I do not recall the Texans making any moves to try and get him.

There are several threads dedicated to this topic. Yes, we are pissed that we don't have a solid running game.

Blazing Arrow
09-18-2008, 12:55 PM
Who is your second QB if something happens to Collins ?

Simms

Bipolar The Titan
09-18-2008, 12:59 PM
that kid might make something of himself at camp.

Blazing Arrow
09-18-2008, 01:00 PM
There are several threads dedicated to this topic. Yes, we are pissed that we don't have a solid running game.

The Texans seem to be a build through the draft team. Do you think they should continue to focus on the D or start looking at the O?

Polo
09-18-2008, 01:03 PM
Simms

LOL. exactly.

gwallaia
09-18-2008, 01:05 PM
The Texans seem to be a build through the draft team. Do you think they should continue to focus on the D or start looking at the O?

Yes.

Blazing Arrow
09-18-2008, 01:21 PM
LOL. exactly.

We were winning with Young. Obviously the QB is not a crucial position for this team.

Polo
09-18-2008, 01:24 PM
We were winning with Young. Obviously the QB is not a crucial position for this team.

I am still alive even though I continuosly have unprotected sex with random women. Obviously protection isn't important.

See how stupid that sounds ?

spurstexanstros
09-18-2008, 01:31 PM
I am still alive even though I continuosly have unprotected sex with random women. Obviously protection isn't important.

See how stupid that sounds ?

Ok thats it I am officiall laughing so loud I will get fired.

Blazing Arrow
09-18-2008, 02:05 PM
I am still alive even though I continuosly have unprotected sex with random women. Obviously protection isn't important.

See how stupid that sounds ?

You analogy does not make sense in reference to my comment. The Titans were 10-6 last season with a QB who had 17 INTs and only 9 TDs. Even though he was giving up the ball almost two to one when scoring we still managed to win 10 games. Our run game and D wins us games not the QB is what you can derive from that.

If your QB was so good how do you explain only going 8-8?

Polo
09-18-2008, 02:21 PM
You analogy does not make sense in reference to my comment. The Titans were 10-6 last season with a QB who had 17 INTs and only 9 TDs. Even though he was giving up the ball almost two to one when scoring we still managed to win 10 games. Our run game and D wins us games not the QB is what you can derive from that.


Actually the analogy fits perfectly.

You have unprotected sex enough, it'll eventually cost you....maybe your life...

You trot out terrible QB's week after week....you'll eventually lose....probably when it matters most...in the play-offs...


**Waits for the inevitable "well atleast we made the play-offs rant"**


So have 30 other NFL teams that have been around for longer than 6 years...

Meanwhile you guys are still goose egging it in the category that actually matters...

0000000000000000 superbowl wins......You are still losers any way you slice it...Keep on keeping track of those play-off appearances though...

Nawzer
09-18-2008, 02:35 PM
I'll be just happy to see the Texans playing again. It'll be a nice distraction for a bit. As for the game, it's always physical when we play the Titans, hopefully our guys will play inspired football and win one for us. Go Texans!!!

Blazing Arrow
09-18-2008, 02:46 PM
Actually the analogy fits perfectly.

You have unprotected sex enough, it'll eventually cost you....maybe your life...

You trot out terrible QB's week after week....you'll eventually lose....probably when it matters most...in the play-offs...


**Waits for the inevitable "well atleast we made the play-offs rant"**


So have 30 other NFL teams that have been around for longer than 6 years...

Meanwhile you guys are still goose egging it in the category that actually matters...

0000000000000000 superbowl wins......You are still losers any way you slice it...Keep on keeping track of those play-off appearances though...guess you guys do have that going for ya'....

You are not very good at this. We have already lost with him and have a winning record when he is at QB. So yes we win despite of him. We lost in the playoffs to a top ranked D. A team that would have taken you to the slaughter house. You should really try to use teams the Texans can actually beat when trying to bring smack against the Titans.

At least we have a winning season. 0/6 not for super bowls, not for playoffs, not for division title, but for more wins then losses. How much you get that number goes to 0/7 this season?

spurstexanstros
09-18-2008, 02:51 PM
You analogy does not make sense in reference to my comment. The Titans were 10-6 last season with a QB who had 17 INTs and only 9 TDs. Even though he was giving up the ball almost two to one when scoring we still managed to win 10 games. Our run game and D wins us games not the QB is what you can derive from that.

If your QB was so good how do you explain only going 8-8?

The Titans were 10-6 because Kerry Collins started a couple of games. Remeber our home game last year. There would have been no way vince(Radio)could have dropped a bomb that beat our best corner.

Well our organization took alot of heat over not drafting your 'unimportant" quarterback. So now our "mistake" of a draft pick is going to set your franchise back a couple of years when he destroys what is left of your backfield. Also yall had an easier schedule than we did.

Look,yall made a mistake in drafting VY admit it and move on. You are jealous because he would have looked even better along side the psycho fatman. Get over it he is with us and your short term gain of going 10-6 isnt gonna last. enjoy your 2-14 season because a world of pain is coming your way.
Mario and Demeco and the crew will take care of your mediocre passing attack and one good running back. The Texans are coming to adelhpia or lp or what ever you are calling that dumpster and make some noise. Get ready for a good game because they always are.

Titans suck errrrr Titans organization is not as good as the Texans organization.

Polo
09-18-2008, 03:24 PM
At least we have a winning season.

And yet another great accomplishment to hang your hats on.

I bet Titan mothers and fathers (who also double as auntie and uncle) are proud...

Your team is barely above the Texans...as evidence of your constant visits...

A smack thread with the Colts wouldn't have made it past the first page. Normally when you're so much better than someone there is no need to argue.

Texan_Bill
09-18-2008, 03:44 PM
At most we have a winning season.

Fixed.

Blazing Arrow
09-18-2008, 04:09 PM
And yet another great accomplishment to hang your hats on.

I bet you mothers and fathers (who also double as auntie and uncle) are proud...

Your team is barely above the Texans...as evidence of your constant visits...

A smack thread with the Colts wouldn't have made it past the first page. Normally when you're so much better than someone there is no need to argue.

Its actually going strong at 5 pages and counting.

http://www.coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8307&page=5

Your team is not even close to ours. You went 8-8 last season because the Jags gave you a win. If not it would have been another sub .500 season. Our D was ranked #5 was yours ranked in the top 10?

We have a better run game by a huge margin.

We have better special teams.

You could boast about WR and QB play but they can not stay on the field so that really holds no weight. Honestly the Texans are not much better then the Lions. As a franchise they kind of remind me of the Lions.

Bipolar The Titan
09-18-2008, 04:13 PM
this thread is ridiculous. Vince might pan out yet. McNair wasn't any good at this point in his career either. The boy needs to ripen. All this SB talk is craziness. I don't really give two $#!ts about anything Oilers prior to 1997. If you guys won everything the Cowboys did... well, the Oilers would still be in Houston, uhh... try to stay with me here... if the Oilers brought titles to Nashville... there we go... you would be cursing us for laying claim to that. Instead you charge us for forty years of obscurity like our team never did anything... I got news for you... as far as I'm concerned this team of mine is a spring chicken reborn. I don't need a Super Bowl back in '99,'00,'02,'03,or '07... sure, we weren't crowned prom queen but at least we got asked to the dance instead of staying home playing with polly pocket and gi joe puppeteering mythological sex acts hating on a long lost team that turned it's back on you ala Isray and the Colts style... our team was in relative shambles when we got it and it was built into a winner, torn down, rebuilt and in the post season again... The Titans and Steelers are among the hottest teams in the AFC right now. It isn't far fetched to predict that as the AFC Championship. The idea of the Texans making the playoffs is laughable. You just don't have anything legitimate. I mean, in the depths of our worst year since the team was in Houston the Texans managed to beat the Titans twice and that was in the same dismal year. As it stands the Titans have double-digit wins over the pathetic team that hails from Houston. Double digits. We are your co-owners. I would literally be shocked if Houston pulled an upset in Nashville Sunday. The Titans beat the Texans 87% of the time. Why is that? The Titans are better than they have been in the past but they aren't even really all that great. We have an obvious weakness at qb and wr yet inspite of that the Texans are our whipping boy. Only the Colts have a better inter-divisional head to head record at 11-1. And you guys say you lost because Vince Young wasn't playing... who knows what Vince would have done... he might have stuck it in your eye like he did the time before.

:gun: there is a reason this smilie is on your menu.

Honoring Earl 34
09-18-2008, 04:19 PM
this thread is ridiculous. Vince might pan out yet. McNair wasn't any good at this point in his career either. The boy needs to ripen. All this SB talk is craziness. I don't really give two $#!ts about anything Oilers prior to 1997. If you guys won everything the Cowboys did... well, the Oilers would still be in Houston, uhh... try to stay with me here... if the Oilers brought titles to Nashville... there we go... you would be cursing us for laying claim to that. Instead you charge us for forty years of obscurity like our team never did anything... I got news for you... as far as I'm concerned this team of mine is a spring chicken reborn. I don't need a Super Bowl back in '99,'00,'02,'03,or '07... sure, we weren't crowned prom queen but at least we got asked to the dance instead of staying home playing with polly pocket and gi joe puppeteering mythological sex acts hating on a long lost team that turned it's back on you ala Isray and the Colts style... our team was in relative shambles when we got it and it was built into a winner, torn down, rebuilt and in the post season again... The Titans and Steelers are among the hottest teams in the AFC right now. It isn't far fetched to predict that as the AFC Championship. The idea of the Texans making the playoffs is laughable. You just don't have anything legitimate. I mean, in the depths of our worst year since the team was in Houston the Texans managed to beat the Titans twice and that was in the same dismal year. As it stands the Titans have double-digit wins over the pathetic team that hails from Houston. Double digits. We are your co-owners. I would literally be shocked if Houston pulled an upset in Nashville Sunday. The Titans beat the Texans 87% of the time. Why is that? The Titans are better than they have been in the past but they aren't even really all that great. We have an obvious weakness at qb and wr yet inspite of that the Texans are our whipping boy. Only the Colts have a better inter-divisional head to head record at 11-1. And you guys say you lost because Vince Young wasn't playing... who knows what Vince would have done... he might have stuck it in your eye like he did the time before.

:gun: there is a reason this smilie is on your menu.

There's two things that seperate us right now ... Fisher and Fat Albert . A great coach and a dominant inside presence ... that's it .

Vinny
09-18-2008, 04:29 PM
Is this really week 3? I feel like unfrozen caveman lawyer after the hurricane

Texan_Bill
09-18-2008, 04:37 PM
Is this really week 3? I feel like unfrozen caveman lawyer after the hurricane

Word is out that you may smell like one too.....

J/K Vinny good to see you getting on board, if not just for a little while. Thoughts your way of course. Keep the texts coming. Thy've been hilarious...

*******************************************

Bipolar... Look at the comparisons of Young to McNair. McNair was light years ahead of Vince.

Blazing Arrow
09-18-2008, 04:46 PM
There's two things that seperate us right now ... Fisher and Fat Albert . A great coach and a dominant inside presence ... that's it .

Which one of your runners is better the CJ or White or even close to the level or play. And I am talking today not 10 years ago when Green was actually good.

Neither of your S could hold Hope or Griffens jock

Our O-line is better at every position then the Texans.

Our OLB are in a different class then the ones playing on the Texans

We have a much better K

How again are you close to us?

Bipolar The Titan
09-18-2008, 04:49 PM
what he said.:cool:

kiwitexansfan
09-18-2008, 04:58 PM
Which one of your runners is better the CJ or White or even close to the level or play. And I am talking today not 10 years ago when Green was actually good.

Neither of your S could hold Hope or Griffens jock

Our O-line is better at every position then the Texans.

Our OLB are in a different class then the ones playing on the Texans

We have a much better K

How again are you close to us?

Could you please reserve your logic for somewhere else?

The Titans have obvious advantages on the OL, RB, DL, LB and DB.

I would call it a push in terms of special teams.

Texans have an edge at receiver and at QB.

I would also reserve judgement on Fisher being far better than Kubiak, more established yes, but talent level helps a lot.

Given the above, Titans should win, but then again they still have to play the game and on any given Sunday.....

spurstexanstros
09-18-2008, 05:07 PM
this thread is ridiculous. Vince might pan out yet. McNair wasn't any good at this point in his career either. The boy needs to ripen. All this SB talk is craziness. I don't really give two $#!ts about anything Oilers prior to 1997. If you guys won everything the Cowboys did... well, the Oilers would still be in Houston, uhh... try to stay with me here... if the Oilers brought titles to Nashville... there we go... you would be cursing us for laying claim to that. Instead you charge us for forty years of obscurity like our team never did anything... I got news for you... as far as I'm concerned this team of mine is a spring chicken reborn. I don't need a Super Bowl back in '99,'00,'02,'03,or '07... sure, we weren't crowned prom queen but at least we got asked to the dance instead of staying home playing with polly pocket and gi joe puppeteering mythological sex acts hating on a long lost team that turned it's back on you ala Isray and the Colts style... our team was in relative shambles when we got it and it was built into a winner, torn down, rebuilt and in the post season again... The Titans and Steelers are among the hottest teams in the AFC right now. It isn't far fetched to predict that as the AFC Championship. The idea of the Texans making the playoffs is laughable. You just don't have anything legitimate. I mean, in the depths of our worst year since the team was in Houston the Texans managed to beat the Titans twice and that was in the same dismal year. As it stands the Titans have double-digit wins over the pathetic team that hails from Houston. Double digits. We are your co-owners. I would literally be shocked if Houston pulled an upset in Nashville Sunday. The Titans beat the Texans 87% of the time. Why is that? The Titans are better than they have been in the past but they aren't even really all that great. We have an obvious weakness at qb and wr yet inspite of that the Texans are our whipping boy. Only the Colts have a better inter-divisional head to head record at 11-1. And you guys say you lost because Vince Young wasn't playing... who knows what Vince would have done... he might have stuck it in your eye like he did the time before.

:gun: there is a reason this smilie is on your menu.

Relative shambles......Eddie George, Bruce Matthews, Steve McNair and a existing franchise with management intact. The reason we hate on the Titans is because we still do not see the logic of a madman who moves a team from the 4th largest city in the U.S. with a vibrant fanbase across the state of Texas to an economic wasteland of Memphis and then to Nashville. Bud is a madman who held the city of Houston hostage and pissed them off so much they showed him the door. Get ready for it... I have a feeling when LA comes aknockin Bud is gonna follow Jed and move to Beverly Hills that is....

I apologize if our high expectations are annoying you. You see we here in Texas are used to winning Championships. I know you guys have a community college that has a good womens program I get it. Please allow us some lofty expectations on TEXANSTALK.COM. I would understand if we were annoying you on your site and your rant would be justified. Until I leave you with this.

The Texans rule and the Titans suck. I dont care if you give a ..... nah its too good of a day to spoil it with profanity.

vy....radio...now thats funny.... tarpitude..... lovin it

Bipolar The Titan
09-18-2008, 05:23 PM
Relative shambles......Eddie George, Bruce Matthews, Steve McNair and a existing franchise with management intact. The reason we hate on the Titans is because we still do not see the logic of a madman who moves a team from the 4th largest city in the U.S. with a vibrant fanbase across the state of Texas to an economic wasteland of Memphis and then to Nashville. Bud is a madman who held the city of Houston hostage and pissed them off so much they showed him the door. Get ready for it... I have a feeling when LA comes aknockin Bud is gonna follow Jed and move to Beverly Hills that is....

I apologize if our high expectations are annoying you. You see we here in Texas are used to winning Championships. I know you guys have a community college that has a good womens program I get it. Please allow us some lofty expectations on TEXANSTALK.COM. I would understand if we were annoying you on your site and your rant would be justified. Until I leave you with this.

The Texans rule and the Titans suck. I dont care if you give a ..... nah its too good of a day to spoil it with profanity.

vy....radio...now thats funny.... tarpitude..... lovin it
I have no problem with high expectations for your team. I applaud that. It's just that a lot of these posts prior to mine attempt to detract from what Tennessee has accomplished since the move and somehow want to hold Tennessee fans responsible for everything the franchise ever did. The rationalizations about Collins beating the corner on the long bomb that set up the game winner like that's a knock on Vince... that's silly. Say what you want about Bud Adams. It's not my role to defend him. Business is business and he did what he did and the past is the past and Nashville will do what Indianapolis has done 20 years from now if need be to keep the team. It is not my intention to annoy anyone. I just want to hang and interact. I'm just saying... hey, live up to a few expectations. Accomplish a goal higher than a .500 season before you go dissing a Conference Championship.

and it's not too good of a day for profanity. It's unwarranted.

ps- radio is unoriginal. That has been applied to A. Wright for years.

Texan_Bill
09-18-2008, 05:28 PM
Which one of your runners is better the CJ or White or even close to the level or play. And I am talking today not 10 years ago when Green was actually good.

Neither of your S could hold Hope or Griffens jock

Our O-line is better at every position then the Texans.

Our OLB are in a different class then the ones playing on the Texans

We have a much better K

How again are you close to us?

what he said.:cool:

I guess we shouldn't even play the game than..... :rolleyes:


:user:
I guess David didn't beat Goliath
I guess Appalachian State didn't beat Michigan
I guess Boise State didn't upset OU.
I guess the Texans didn't go into Pittsburgh and beat them with 47 total yards offense.

Pfffft!!! Pleeeease!

spurstexanstros
09-18-2008, 05:43 PM
I have no problem with high expectations for your team. I applaud that. It's just that a lot of these posts prior to mine attempt to detract from what Tennessee has accomplished since the move and somehow want to hold Tennessee fans responsible for everything the franchise ever did. The rationalizations about Collins beating the corner on the long bomb that set up the game winner like that's a knock on Vince... that's silly. Say what you want about Bud Adams. It's not my role to defend him. Business is business and he did what he did and the past is the past and Nashville will do what Indianapolis has done 20 years from now if need be to keep the team. It is not my intention to annoy anyone. I just want to hang and interact. I'm just saying... hey, live up to a few expectations. Accomplish a goal higher than a .500 season before you go dissing a Conference Championship.

and it's not too good of a day for profanity. It's unwarranted.

ps- radio is unoriginal. That has been applied to A. Wright for years.


and they have accomplished?????????????? Dont tell me they have made it to the playoffs. Well when i was growing up I had a football team the perpetually made it to the playoffs... you may have heard of them the Houston Oilers????? oh I see yall have made it closer.. well closer only counts in horseshoes and handgrenades.. or in your case cowchip chunking( not an insult its under his name)
It dont mean a thing unless you got a ring

as for your crack on us spending our offseason playing polly pocket or what ever...Well um no.... I spend it watching the Spurs rack up rings or deep playoff runs. You may have heard of them because like the Oilers Nashville did lobby hard and tried to steal another of my beloved teams. Yes, Nashville did "bribe" Bud and lured him from Houston.. So dont try to say your franchise has accomplished anything or has a history. They do not.your history is 10 years .. no more ours is 6. You took our franchise and made a couple of playoff runs. 07 was the first year that yall didnt have houston drafted franchise players.

Now you guys can say your history begins....wait where did fishboy get his start....yeah Houston.

spurstexanstros
09-18-2008, 05:54 PM
Can someone please explane what the heck Titan has to do with Tennesee?

Double Barrel
09-18-2008, 06:03 PM
Can someone please explane what the heck Titan has to do with Tennesee?

Inbreeding.

HJam72
09-18-2008, 07:25 PM
Which one of your runners is better the CJ or White or even close to the level or play. And I am talking today not 10 years ago when Green was actually good.

Neither of your S could hold Hope or Griffens jock

Our O-line is better at every position then the Texans.

Our OLB are in a different class then the ones playing on the Texans

We have a much better K

How again are you close to us?

Hey, our kicker is good too! So there! :fans:

TheRealJoker
09-18-2008, 07:35 PM
Which one of your runners is better the CJ or White or even close to the level or play. And I am talking today not 10 years ago when Green was actually good.

Neither of your S could hold Hope or Griffens jock

Our O-line is better at every position then the Texans.

Our OLB are in a different class then the ones playing on the Texans

We have a much better K
How again are you close to us?


Listen here you dirty tackfan...

You can say whatever you want about the Texans but King Kong Kris is off limits. Just because our offense doesn't provide him the opportunity to boot in chipshot FGs 3-6 times a game doesn't mean he wouldn't work Bironas over in an old fashioned kickoff.

Kris Brown booted in 3 FGs over 54 yards in a single game, including the game winning 57 yarder. When has Bironas... or any kicker for that matter done anything that awesome?

Honoring Earl 34
09-18-2008, 07:36 PM
Which one of your runners is better the CJ or White or even close to the level or play. And I am talking today not 10 years ago when Green was actually good.

Neither of your S could hold Hope or Griffens jock

Our O-line is better at every position then the Texans.

Our OLB are in a different class then the ones playing on the Texans

We have a much better K

How again are you close to us?

Fat Albert would be a big plus in stopping your OK backs . Plus Fisher is a good defensive coach .

Ryans and Bulloch are a wash even though they play different positions . Fat Albert would make our backers better .

Your K is not that much better try looking at some stats .

Our young OTs are ask to do something yours are'nt ... pass block . Your center is much better than ours and I'm not sure who your guards are .

I don't think we play with safety's .

GP
09-18-2008, 07:37 PM
I see the lot lizards are still begging us for our attention.

I love how they try to pretend that they are here for "football" talk, but it's always laced with little jabs and digs against our team...to move it into a smack talk session.

Titans fan, you've had your fun. Now as I said before: You better get home before momma gets scared and calls the cops. You left your cell phone at home, and you're out on the town in your powder-blue and hot pink "drag queen" costume way past midnight. Jeff is going to ask you to come up to the office, and the cops are there, too. Oh, and your counselor wanted to speak with you about a few things. The sponsors are calling, as well. They say they are ready to pull the endorsement contract if any more of this erratic behavior keeps happening.

The fact that you think your special teams is better than ours is proof that you're just running your mouth and don't intend to really talk "football." While you ranked # 1 in FGs, we ranked # 2 in kick returns but you guys were 27th in that category...five spots from dead last.

ChrisG
09-18-2008, 08:14 PM
Inbreeding.

made my day :spit:

ReliantTexan
09-18-2008, 09:20 PM
Our O-line is better at every position then the Texans.



We have a much better K

I disagree with both statments, Eric Winston could start at right tackle for almost any team in the league including the titans IMO. And Bironas isn't way better than Kris Brown, he might be a little better but it's close. And earlier you said your Special teams are better. Do you have a better KR than Andre Davis, who returned 3 kickoffs for TDs last year (2 in one game), or even Jacoby Jones, (who currently has a fumbling problem but is still dangerous on returns)?

Blazing Arrow
09-18-2008, 09:47 PM
I disagree with both statments, Eric Winston could start at right tackle for almost any team in the league including the titans IMO. And Bironas isn't way better than Kris Brown, he might be a little better but it's close. And earlier you said your Special teams are better. Do you have a better KR than Andre Davis, who returned 3 kickoffs for TDs last year (2 in one game), or even Jacoby Jones, (who currently has a fumbling problem but is still dangerous on returns)?

David Stewart is regarded as on of the top tackles in the NFL. Probably our weakest O-Lineman is our LG Amano and he is pretty good.

Bironas has made several clutch kicks including nailing a 60 FG against the Colts for the win; a team that would eventually win the Super Bowl. The Guy is clutch and would have been booming them last week if Cinci was not in a wind storm. I think Brown is a good kicker, don't get me wrong but I think he missed one in the first game? Lets put it this way if I needed a 50+ yard FG to win the game I take Bironas 10/10 times. I never have a doubt when he walks on the field. He is clutch.

I don't doubt you probably have a better returner then we do. But our punt game with hentr. is also probably one of the best in the league. He dropped on inside the 4 last week!

spurstexanstros
09-18-2008, 10:05 PM
Again the titans do not have a special teams like the Texans. The Texans have always had the best or close to the best ST in the league for years. Coach Marciano is so respected I have a feeling he is here as long as he wants to be. He even cut his best returner last year (Mathis) and still had the best return game in NFL. devin hester is probably the only reason any team could be better in ST.

Dont forget about our WR core. I challenge you to compare yours to ours. No I will.

Andre Johnson
Andre Davis
Kevin Walter
David Anderson
Jacoby Jones
Owen Daniels


Notice there are no titans on there. That is because you guys dont have any. Its usually Vince to the left, Vince to the right or hey D score cause Vince just got picked off. Now that vince is out yall just sit back and hope Jonson hits a home run. Remember these names because they will be running around your secondary all day long.

Bipolar The Titan
09-18-2008, 10:36 PM
and they have accomplished?????????????? Dont tell me they have made it to the playoffs.
They beat the Texans 10 times... but it's not like no other team has managed that.
Well when i was growing up I had a football team the perpetually made it to the playoffs... you may have heard of them the Houston Oilers?????
then you guys should lay off on the 40 years w/o a SB crap. Which is it gonna be? The Oilers were awesome or the Titans 40 years is useless. Choose a theme.
oh I see yall have made it closer.. well closer only counts in horseshoes and handgrenades.. or in your case cowchip chunking( not an insult its under his name)
It dont mean a thing unless you got a ring
I've had a good decade of enjoyment being in the hunt. The Texans haven't made it to the woods let alone got out of them.
as for your crack on us spending our offseason playing polly pocket or what ever...Well um no....
do you watch youtube? or are you surfing on windows 98?
I spend it watching the Spurs rack up rings or deep playoff runs. You may have heard of them because like the Oilers Nashville did lobby hard and tried to steal another of my beloved teams. Who gives a f about the NBA? NBA players don't even respect the Star Spangled Banner. I read it on Yahoo the other day. I spent the summer riding motorcycles and making babies. Don't the Grizzlies suck? Guess what? I don't give a crap about the Grizzlies. So Nashville tried to take the Spurs from San Antonio? That's news to me... doesn't change the fact Bud Adams brought the Oilers to Nashville. Nashville didn't rip them away from Houston.
Yes, Nashville did "bribe" Bud and lured him from Houston.. So dont try to say your franchise has accomplished anything or has a history. They do not.your history is 10 years .. no more ours is 6. You took our franchise and made a couple of playoff runs. 07 was the first year that yall didnt have houston drafted franchise players.Then judge the Titans on 10 or 12 years... not 40. The Titans won the afc south. Can you say that about the Texans? Nashville offered no bribe as you allege. It happened just as I say it did. If you doubt me offer evidence to the contrary. I didn't take s#!t. Bud brought it to me. I'm simply a fan of his product. I don't care about where the team was when who was drafted. That's a really stupid non-issue. By the way, our "Houston free" squad qualified for the playoffs last year in '07.

Now you guys can say your history begins....wait where did fishboy get his start....yeah Houston.Fisher got his start with the Bears as a db.

honestly, it amuses me how bitter and hate filled many of you are here about all of this. Your vain attempts at agitation don't even ping on my first nerve. It's really laughable just how wrapped up many of you can be... all emotional... making racist white trash hillbilly references... all because you want to go back to to the eighties when the Astrodome was the place to be and everyone "Luv'ed Blue"... I kinda feel sorry for you. I honestly wish the Texans were good like the Colts. I'd much rather chase you guys. You guys deserve better.

BSofA04
09-18-2008, 11:02 PM
this thread is ridiculous. Vince might pan out yet. McNair wasn't any good at this point in his career either. The boy needs to ripen. All this SB talk is craziness. I don't really give two $#!ts about anything Oilers prior to 1997. If you guys won everything the Cowboys did... well, the Oilers would still be in Houston, uhh... try to stay with me here... if the Oilers brought titles to Nashville... there we go... you would be cursing us for laying claim to that. Instead you charge us for forty years of obscurity like our team never did anything... I got news for you... as far as I'm concerned this team of mine is a spring chicken reborn. I don't need a Super Bowl back in '99,'00,'02,'03,or '07... sure, we weren't crowned prom queen but at least we got asked to the dance instead of staying home playing with polly pocket and gi joe puppeteering mythological sex acts hating on a long lost team that turned it's back on you ala Isray and the Colts style... our team was in relative shambles when we got it and it was built into a winner, torn down, rebuilt and in the post season again... The Titans and Steelers are among the hottest teams in the AFC right now. It isn't far fetched to predict that as the AFC Championship. The idea of the Texans making the playoffs is laughable. You just don't have anything legitimate. I mean, in the depths of our worst year since the team was in Houston the Texans managed to beat the Titans twice and that was in the same dismal year. As it stands the Titans have double-digit wins over the pathetic team that hails from Houston. Double digits. We are your co-owners. I would literally be shocked if Houston pulled an upset in Nashville Sunday. The Titans beat the Texans 87% of the time. Why is that? The Titans are better than they have been in the past but they aren't even really all that great. We have an obvious weakness at qb and wr yet inspite of that the Texans are our whipping boy. Only the Colts have a better inter-divisional head to head record at 11-1. And you guys say you lost because Vince Young wasn't playing... who knows what Vince would have done... he might have stuck it in your eye like he did the time before.

:gun: there is a reason this smilie is on your menu.

We started 2-0 last year too! Guess how you'll end up when Bud demands VY to start?

BTW, Nashville did try to steal the Spurs from SA. Thank god they didn't taste sweet victory from a multi-championship team!! IMO, Nashville deserves a giant steamer. Again....JMO. Since you don't have a chance at jack $hit with your owner, this was your best opportunity. Sucks to be Nashville. Must be a huge chaulk(yeah...won't let me post ****) tease. (don't say that too loud around your boy, VY)

BSofA04
09-18-2008, 11:22 PM
I kinda feel sorry for you. I honestly wish the Texans were good like the Colts. I'd much rather chase you guys. You guys deserve better.

Blah blah blah...jibberish. Tell us how your really feel. Don't suger-coat it.

spurstexanstros
09-18-2008, 11:25 PM
They beat the Texans 10 times... but it's not like no other team has managed that.

then you guys should lay off on the 40 years w/o a SB crap. Which is it gonna be? The Oilers were awesome or the Titans 40 years is useless. Choose a theme.

I've had a good decade of enjoyment being in the hunt. The Texans haven't made it to the woods let alone got out of them.

do you watch youtube? or are you surfing on windows 98?
Who gives a f about the NBA? NBA players don't even respect the Star Spangled Banner. I read it on Yahoo the other day. I spent the summer riding motorcycles and making babies. Don't the Grizzlies suck? Guess what? I don't give a crap about the Grizzlies. So Nashville tried to take the Spurs from San Antonio? That's news to me... doesn't change the fact Bud Adams brought the Oilers to Nashville. Nashville didn't rip them away from Houston.
Then judge the Titans on 10 or 12 years... not 40. The Titans won the afc south. Can you say that about the Texans? Nashville offered no bribe as you allege. It happened just as I say it did. If you doubt me offer evidence to the contrary. I didn't take s#!t. Bud brought it to me. I'm simply a fan of his product. I don't care about where the team was when who was drafted. That's a really stupid non-issue. By the way, our "Houston free" squad qualified for the playoffs last year in '07.

Fisher got his start with the Bears as a db.

honestly, it amuses me how bitter and hate filled many of you are here about all of this. Your vain attempts at agitation don't even ping on my first nerve. It's really laughable just how wrapped up many of you can be... all emotional... making racist white trash hillbilly references... all because you want to go back to to the eighties when the Astrodome was the place to be and everyone "Luv'ed Blue"... I kinda feel sorry for you. I honestly wish the Texans were good like the Colts. I'd much rather chase you guys. You guys deserve better.

Wow.....and I mean wow..... you have just shown your complete lack of intelligence.

1. NBA players do not salute the flag? I guess you have never heard of David Robinson

2. Look up on yahoo the deal bringing the Oilers to Nashville and you will see the "incentives" (large amount of cash) it took for Bud Adams to leave the 4th largest city in the US.

3. no never called anyone racist. hillbilly well maybe... I have driven through Nashville on those dirt roads they try to pass off as highways. So yeah we may forget it is a medium sized town and mistake the residents for hill billies because we drive through on take your mule to work day. for that I am sorry. My mistake I should have stopped by Dollywood and seen the true cosmopolitan Tennesee.

Please dont feel sorry for me... even if yall win. I live in Texas, which is native American for freaking awesome. If I want to drown my sorrows, if yall beat us, I will pour some Koolaid (battle red flavored) and the world will be rosy. Sorry.... my friend dont waste your time. I have my battle red kool aid ... the best football team Houston has ever had... four championship DVDs a wife who loves me and a son who loves the Texans since the day he was born. Dont cry for me cry for Argentina...

BSofA04
09-18-2008, 11:28 PM
Wow.....and I mean wow..... you have just shown your complete lack of intelligence.

1. NBA players do not salute the flag? I guess you have never heard of David Robinson

2. Look up on yahoo the deal bringing the Oilers to Nashville and you will see the "incentives" (large amount of cash) it took for Bud Adams to leave the 4th largest city in the US.

3. no never called anyone racist. hillbilly well maybe... I have driven through Nashville on those dirt roads they try to pass off as highways. So yeah we may forget it is a medium sized town and mistake the residents for hill billies because we drive through on take your mule to work day. for that I am sorry. My mistake I should have stopped by Dollywood and seen the true cosmopolitan Tennesee.

Please dont feel sorry for me... even if yall win. I live in Texas, which is native American for freaking awesome. If I want to drown my sorrows, if yall beat us, I will pour some Koolaid (battle red flavored) and the world will be rosy. Sorry.... my friend dont waste your time. I have my battle red kool aid ... the best football team Houston has ever had... four championship DVDs a wife who loves me and a son who loves the Texans since the day he was born. Dont cry for me cry for Argentina...

Don't try to explain championships to a team owned by Bud Adams. They will only fall a few, well, they'll just fall short.....year after year. That's Houston's ultimate F-you to Nashville! False hope is a mother!

leebigeztx
09-19-2008, 12:05 AM
I think conversation and trash talk is cool as long as its not personal. The difference between the titans and texans isn't that great. In 06, both teams needed a talent infusion. The titans had structure and cap space while texans were cap strapped, but had a vision. The titans have also been very god at plucking select fre agents and had some low rd picks really step up. Roos,Stewart, Finnegan and Brown to name a few. Vince still has growing to do, but thy can and or wil trade for a top flight rceiver like roy wilims. 8-8 and 10-6 isn't that big of a gap.

Leahmic223
09-19-2008, 12:18 AM
I think conversation and trash talk is cool as long as its not personal. The difference between the titans and texans isn't that great. In 06, both teams needed a talent infusion. The titans had structure and cap space while texans were cap strapped, but had a vision. The titans have also been very god at plucking select fre agents and had some low rd picks really step up. Roos,Stewart, Finnegan and Brown to name a few. Vince still has growing to do, but thy can and or wil trade for a top flight rceiver like roy wilims. 8-8 and 10-6 isn't that big of a gap.

Not only that, I see Titans fans braggin about 10-2...Yet 10 of those games have been decided by 10 points or less.

It's not like the Colts...All of these games with the tacks are close. While the Titans are 2-0 (congrats on that) they beat two winless teams at the moment. The Texans lost to the Steelers who are 2-0.

I expect the Titans to win. (Because it looks they have a better team right now) but I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Texans won because anything can happen between these two teams when they play.

Bipolar The Titan
09-19-2008, 06:33 AM
Wow.....and I mean wow..... you have just shown your complete lack of intelligence.
complete lack of intelligence? that's kind of unnecessary. I don't understand your need to personally insult another poster. It reeks of insecurity. Consult a psychiatric resource online if you doubt me.
1. NBA players do not salute the flag? I guess you have never heard of David Robinson
First and foremost, Robinson is a throwback to my adolescence. I remember him on the Spurs and his Mr Robinson's Neighborhood commercials... He was a class act... from a bygone era... but I'm talking about Josh Howard. (of the Dallas Mavericks) I really shouldn't generalize NBA guys... It's just that NBA has bit by bit, year by year lost it's appeal to me through the Dennis Rodman's of the Leauge, Artest and The Malice at the Palace incident, things of that nature... NBA is not what it was when Jordon was running with the unstoppable Bulls. For that matter greed and drugs have ruined baseball to a degree. The NBA's state of affairs is a bit sorry in my opinion. Maybe my opinion of NBA is a bit ignorant as I really don't watch anymore because all the negativity surrounding it.
2. Look up on yahoo the deal bringing the Oilers to Nashville and you will see the "incentives" (large amount of cash) it took for Bud Adams to leave the 4th largest city in the US.
Dude, I said offer evidence to the contrary, not allude to. The fact remains that Bud initiated talks. Of course there are supposed to be incentives. That's business. Bud more or less asked for an incentive package. He got one. Without one there could be no deal. The initial contact happened exactly as I said it did.

3. no never called anyone racist. hillbilly well maybe... I have driven through Nashville on those dirt roads they try to pass off as highways. So yeah we may forget it is a medium sized town and mistake the residents for hill billies because we drive through on take your mule to work day. for that I am sorry. My mistake I should have stopped by Dollywood and seen the true cosmopolitan Tennesee.
I am not saying that anyone called anyone a racist. I am saying that remarks that I have read here are racist in nature. White trash hillbilly stuff is racism. Persons do not have to be black, foreign, Irish or what have you to be a target of nationalist, regional or cultural bigotry... does not matter what color you are... a black man can make racist remarks in regards to another black man..

Please dont feel sorry for me... even if yall win. I live in Texas, which is native American for freaking awesome. If I want to drown my sorrows, if yall beat us, I will pour some Koolaid (battle red flavored) and the world will be rosy. Sorry.... my friend dont waste your time. I have my battle red kool aid ... the best football team Houston has ever had... four championship DVDs a wife who loves me and a son who loves the Texans since the day he was born. Dont cry for me cry for Argentina...

I'm not going to sit here and do as you do. I will not attempt to belittle a guy's home and make him feel bad about the team he loves as you do. I'm not trying to make you feel bad about anything but I do feel sorry for you. What have you got in the way of DVD's anyways? That's a bit confusing to me. Spurs I suppose? Or Longhorns? That's great partner. :whip: I ain't crying for you so much as I hope Jacksonville and the Colts fall and that the Texans and Titans become the cream of the division. It's such a natural rivalry and Houston is a mega huge market... It would make great Monday Night Football... Houston just needs to go 11-5 and make a Wild Card. I don't care how much pride you have... I have it to. I am Southern by the grace of God as well... I love these hills I call home. You are no different than I in that respect. I know how frustrating losing can be/feel. Titans were 9-23 during 2004-05... that sucks. Multiply that by a factor of 2 or almost 3.. I can only imagine... So, look... you may not want sympathy, but that's just the kind of guy I am.:tiphat:

Texan_Bill
09-19-2008, 07:17 AM
........including nailing a 60 FG against the Colts for the win;

:foottap: You fickle Tinnbred fans.... I thought Vince Young won that game all by himself...

Bipolar The Titan
09-19-2008, 07:27 AM
Hey, our kicker is good too! So there! :fans:
our kicker blew yours away with an nfl record 8 fg's...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=251211010

within this link is the most memorable thing I recall Kris Brown doing in the series... and that kick wasn't even wide really... it was a complete duck hook... and I characterize it that way because the ball's path was reminiscent of a duck diving beneath the surface of the water after a minnow. To make matters worse it was a mere 31 yard attempt. It was 2005... and two of the Titans 5 victories that year were served by the Texans.

Bironas is a pro bowler with his cleats in the Pro Football Hall Of Fame.

your guy is good though.. and Bironas has had a tough offseason with a slight injury issue... but still... Brown is not on par with Bironas.

Bipolar The Titan
09-19-2008, 07:40 AM
Don't try to explain championships to a team owned by Bud Adams. They will only fall a few, well, they'll just fall short.....year after year. That's Houston's ultimate F-you to Nashville! False hope is a mother!

Before you and I were born the Oilers were a force in the AFL. Not that it's super relevant but I think the young "Jedi Anakin Skywalker" version of Bud Adams knows a little something about a League Championship... I don't know whether the "Sith Darth Vader" version of Bud Adams that you have grown to despise does... however, if episode VI can offer us any insight perhaps he can come around and "fulfill his destiny"... :victory:

Bipolar The Titan
09-19-2008, 07:41 AM
Not only that, I see Titans fans braggin about 10-2...Yet 10 of those games have been decided by 10 points or less.

It's not like the Colts...All of these games with the tacks are close. While the Titans are 2-0 (congrats on that) they beat two winless teams at the moment. The Texans lost to the Steelers who are 2-0.

I expect the Titans to win. (Because it looks they have a better team right now) but I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Texans won because anything can happen between these two teams when they play.

:goodpost: anything can happen.

Bipolar The Titan
09-19-2008, 07:45 AM
I think conversation and trash talk is cool as long as its not personal. The difference between the titans and texans isn't that great. In 06, both teams needed a talent infusion. The titans had structure and cap space while texans were cap strapped, but had a vision. The titans have also been very god at plucking select free agents and had some low rd picks really step up. Roos,Stewart, Finnegan and Brown to name a few. Vince still has growing to do, but thy can and or wil trade for a top flight rceiver like roy wilims. 8-8 and 10-6 isn't that big of a gap.

:goodpost: I agree about Vince. I'm really liking Collins as a vet leader and a game manager. My expectations from Collins have grown tremendously. He has earned my respect where Vince has eroded mine over time with his performance, actions, and words... but he's 25 and I think watching Collins will help him in the long run.

Thorn
09-19-2008, 07:49 AM
You guys are a better team with Collins than with Young, that's for sure.

gwallaia
09-19-2008, 07:53 AM
Bironas is a pro bowler with his cleats in the Pro Football Hall Of Fame.

your guy is good though.. and Bironas has had a tough offseason with a slight injury issue... but still... Brown is not on par with Bironas.

NFL Careers:

Kris Brown 1999-2008
203/262 FG ----- 77.5%
269/275 XP ------97.8%

Rob Bironas 2005-2008
82/98 FG -------- 83.7%
95/97 XP -------- 97.9%

And of course 8 FG's in a game. Bet Fisher would rather have TD's than FG's.

stiff
09-19-2008, 07:53 AM
our kicker blew yours away with an nfl record 8 fg's...

Bironas is a pro bowler with his cleats in the Pro Football Hall Of Fame.

your guy is good though.. and Bironas has had a tough offseason with a slight injury issue... but still... Brown is not on par with Bironas.

If it wasnt for that one day last year NO ONE would have heard of him outside of Nashville. I wouldn't necessarily brag on the fact that my team needed 8 field goals to beat a team that was banged up. Yes i know vy was out so you were down your "starting" QB but the better one was playing.

Bironas is young and nursing injury already. Based on that he wont last long enough in the league to make the hall of fame.

BTW he and Brown have the exact FG percentage this year. Yes Bironas has double the field goals of Brown, but that is a whopping 2!

Bipolar The Titan
09-19-2008, 08:03 AM
Can someone please explane what the heck Titan has to do with Tennesee?
I'll "explane" it to you with sources and citations. :thisbig:

By the 1850’s, Nashville had already earned the nickname of the “Athens of the South” by having established numerous higher education institutions as well as being the first Southern City to establish a public school system. By the end of the century, Nashville would see Fisk University, Montgomery Bell Academy, Meharry Medical College, and Vanderbilt University all open it doors..


http://nashville.about.com/od/historyandsites/a/NashHistXline2.htm

Nashville's moniker the Athens of the South influenced the choice of the building as the centerpiece of the 1897 fair. A number of buildings at the Exposition were based on ancient originals. However, the Parthenon was the only one to have been conceived as an exact reproduction. It was also the only one to have been preserved by the city. (The Knights of Pythias building was purchased and moved to nearby Franklin, TN.)

Originally built of plaster, wood, and brick, the Parthenon was rebuilt in the 1920s on the same foundations, but with concrete.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenon_(Nashville)

In Greek mythology, the Titans (Greek: Τῑτάν Tītā́n; plural: Τῑτᾶνες Tītânes) were a race of powerful deities that ruled during the legendary Golden Age. Their role as Elder Gods being overthrown by a present race of younger gods, the Olympians, effected a mythological paradigm shift that the Greeks borrowed from the Ancient Near East.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_(mythology)

Say what you want about the myth but note that the Titans were some bad dudes that would kill you and eat your children. It's just a story.. and it's worthy of lampooning I suppose but so is any NFL moniker.
Alliteration is the repetition of the first consonant sound in a phrase. A common example in English is "Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers" or "Tigers took Title Today". Alliteration can take the form of assonance, the repetition of a vowel, or consonance, the repetition of a consonant; however, unlike a strict definition of alliteration, both assonance and consonance can regularly occur within words as opposed to being limited to the word's initial sound.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliteration

hope that helps

Texan_Bill
09-19-2008, 08:08 AM
Can someone please explane what the heck Titan has to do with Tennesee?

They just stole the name from the Jets, the way they stole the team... :whip:

Señor Stan
09-19-2008, 08:09 AM
Alliteration is the repetition of the first consonant sound in a phrase. A common example in English is "Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers" or "Tigers took Title Today". Alliteration can take the form of assonance, the repetition of a vowel, or consonance, the repetition of a consonant; however, unlike a strict definition of alliteration, both assonance and consonance can regularly occur within words as opposed to being limited to the word's initial sound.

Illiteration - The misspelling of two consecutive words on a message board post.

stiff
09-19-2008, 08:09 AM
I'll "explane" it to you with sources and citations. :thisbig:



http://nashville.about.com/od/historyandsites/a/NashHistXline2.htm



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenon_(Nashville)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_(mythology)

Say what you want about the myth but note that the Titans were some bad dudes that would kill you and eat your children. It's just a story.. and it's worthy of lampooning I suppose but so is any NFL moniker.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliteration

hope that helps

So the fact that they are the Imbred children of Uranus has no irony here? I know its been said a million times couldnt resist

The Titans produced other offspring, mating with either other Titans or other creatures. These offspring are also called Titans.

the Titans of Greek mythology are the twelve children of Gaia and Uranus:
http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/religionmyth/g/Titans.htm

Texan_Bill
09-19-2008, 08:14 AM
the word Titan (Τιτησι) seemed to be means "Strainer"

Shaft75
09-19-2008, 08:17 AM
Titan only responds to positive comments about the Tennbreds. He's always been a complete homer. He says nothing bothers him, yet his posts have such a condescending tone..

I thing his little Reebok NFL Apparel Titan panties get all bunched up.

And thank god my only memories about the Oilers was my dad throwing stuff at the tv because he was "done with that f'ing team."

Ahhhh... How things change. They went to a Super Bowl in TN, what a great franchise blah blah blah.

Well now its week 3 of the 2008 season, and the organization still doesn't have any Lombardi trophies.

Silver lining alert: at least the NFL championship was WITHIN REACH!

Texan_Bill
09-19-2008, 08:23 AM
Hey cousin, aren't those purdy???

http://nflstore.net/products/ttlec3.jpg

Mr teX
09-19-2008, 08:56 AM
I'm rooting for my home town boys, but make no mistake about it, the titan defense will sure as hell not make it easy for them.

every time i think of the haynesworth vs. meyers match up, i flashback to the steelers game when Hampton pushed meyers all the way in the backfield & then pancaked him something terrible.....in other words, that match up is grossly uneven for the texans....& assuredly will cause problems for us in some form.

Other than that i just think that if we can give schaub some time (something he really didn't have against the steelers), we'll be ok. The name of the game is pressure for the titans & if they can't generate that they turn into a mediocore defense pretty quick. I think Brown will look better than he did in the steelers game & against KVB just b/c he's already seen pretty much the best DE's in the league already....not saying he'll win the matchup, but that KVB will hardly be a factor.

Defensively.... hey, it's not remotely possible to look worse than we did against the steelers, at least I don't think it is, but i doubt we'll find that out this week b/c the titans don't have nearly the caliber of weapons that the steelers did. Having said that they have 1 really fast weapon in CJ & if we can somewhat contain him & get them in some 3rd & long situations with the statue that is Kerry Collins.....Mario & Meco & hopefully someone else on the defensive side can make a play or two.

I won't predict b/c this is the NFL & anything can happen...but the only people who wouldn't pick the titans at this point are homers & people who just don't know the sport........ with all that has gone on with our boys i just hope for a reasonably competitve & exciting game.....& win!! go texans!!

Tedc
09-19-2008, 09:19 AM
I think the Titans are coming in too cocky and the Texans are ready to step up. The Titans SHOULD win but the Texans steal this game.

Yes, I am a homer and proud of it.

Bipolar The Titan
09-19-2008, 09:21 AM
If it wasnt for that one day last year NO ONE would have heard of him outside of Nashville. I wouldn't necessarily brag on the fact that my team needed 8 field goals to beat a team that was banged up. Yes i know vy was out so you were down your "starting" QB but the better one was playing.

Bironas is young and nursing injury already. Based on that he wont last long enough in the league to make the hall of fame.

BTW he and Brown have the exact FG percentage this year. Yes Bironas has double the field goals of Brown, but that is a whopping 2!

which day and which record?
8 field goals is an NFL record. Bironas' successful kicks from 52, 25, 21, 30, 28, 43, and 29 yards (twice) -- plus two extra points -- also set an NFL single-game record of 26 points by a kicker. That eclipsed the 4-year-old record of 23 points set by Billy Cundiff of the Dallas Cowboys against the New York Giants.

Rob Bironas also drilled a 60-yard field goal with seven seconds remaining to lift the Tennessee Titans to a 20-17 victory over the Indianapolis Colts at LP Field that set a franchise record and gained nationwide recognition.


Bironas is not nursing injury. He just was not active in preseason due to a groin issue. He's fine best I can tell. Bironas has has already made his mark on the Hall Of Fame. I don't expect them to give him a bust in 2038 or anything. I'm just saying that his shoes and a ball he kicked are there next to his name. That's something.

Vince may have been our best qb last year. I don't know. It's difficult to judge as Collins only had one start. I believe that Collins in better than he was last year and that Young has not grown enough, if at all. At this time Collins is the starter and the better qb in my opinion. That not to say that Vince won't grow into a dominate mvp as McNair did.

It's just that Vince is not very good right now. Still has potential but it's a maturation process. Besides, he's injured so it really doesn't matter. Collins looked terrific in absolutely terrible conditions in Cincinnati last week so I have few worries about the comfortable confines of LP Field and the fair weather expected there.

I don't know what the deal is with the Texans, they may be soft, unlucky or the victim of bad conditioning... I'm sorry if they were banged up. Sage is a beast. It baffles me as to why he is not the starter apart from the money game. Big Matt... I just don't know about him... he reminds me of this guy...

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4974/196/320/Mister_Salty_B.jpg

meanwhile Rosenfels finished 22 of 35 for 290 yards, with four touchdowns and three interceptions. That tied an NFL record for 4th quarter TD's... It begs the question, "Why is Matt Schaub the starter?"

on your lame injury card excuse...

Tennessee Inactives/Did not play*
WR 11 P.Williams, RB 29 C.Brown, CB 41 K.Herndon, FB 48
C.Cramer, G/C 64 L.Harris, DE 77 S.Conover, WR 81 B.Jones, DT 96 C.Simon

QB 10 V.Young* did not play

Houston Inactives
CB 25 D.Wynn, RB 35 S.Gado, DE 53 S.Orr, G 64 K.Studdard, T 78
R.Butler, WR 80 A.Johnson, WR 86 H.Williams, TE 87 M.Bruener

http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamecenter/29287/HST_Gamebook.pdf

you really think it would be that different?
well, maybe it was... I hunted hard for an injury report.

Stanley McClover DE, Chester Pitts G, Ephraim Salaam T, Eric Winston T, Antwaun Molden CB, Jacoby Jones WR, Travis Johnson NT, Ahman Green RB, Mark Bruener TE, Chris Brown RB, Scott Jackson G, Harry Williams WR, Fred Weary G, Jimmy Williams CB, Chukky Okobi C


I have no status. Here is the link.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/preview?gid=20071021034
A. Green carried the ball 11 times for 39 yards. He was "injured". It was only week 7. I don't know... could'a/would'a/should'a... one yard short... whatever.

Regardless
It was killer game... I know that A.Johnson is a difference maker... but Collins had to hastily prepare with a crappy coordinator with a bad scheme and pos targets. (yes, by my own admission I am hard pressed to point to a worse set of receivers in the NFL at this time)... It's all red zone stuff. Bironas' kicks were relatively short. In all honesty I don't know the Texans roster well enough to blame your loss on injuries. It takes 53.

moving on.. Check the 3rd down efficiency in the gamebook.

Ten 4-10-40%
Hou 1-5-20%

That's terrible on both Texans and Titans alike.
Titans had an edge in defense. Check the scoring summary.

Titans 6 / 16 / 10 / 6 -- 38
Texans 7/ 0 / 0 / 29 -- 36

29 4th quarter points! The defense... somehow let the Texans back in the game. We are talking about 32-7 at the beginning of the 4th quarter. Or either Sage is some form of a god... tying records...

but people say Sage who? They know Bironas... You want to know why? History is written by the victors.

Texan_Bill
http://nflstore.net/products/ttlec3.jpg

I'd love to get some of these for the wifey.

Bipolar The Titan
09-19-2008, 09:27 AM
NFL Careers:

Kris Brown 1999-2008
203/262 FG ----- 77.5%
269/275 XP ------97.8%

Rob Bironas 2005-2008
82/98 FG -------- 83.7%
95/97 XP -------- 97.9%

And of course 8 FG's in a game. Bet Fisher would rather have TD's than FG's.

do you have any "clutch" kicking stats to offer me? I said your guy was good but I've never seen Bironas blow a game that I can recall.

gwallaia
09-19-2008, 09:30 AM
do you have any "clutch" kicking stats to offer me? I said your guy was good but I've never seen Bironas blow a game that I can recall.

Without looking up all the clutch stats, I do recall screaming very loudly at Reliant when Brown drilled a 57 yarder to beat the Colts. I know, I know, Bironas nailed a 60 yarder to beat them as well.

Bipolar The Titan
09-19-2008, 09:34 AM
I think the Titans are coming in too cocky and the Texans are ready to step up.

I'm sorry, did the Titans recently sign Anthony Smith or Matt Hasselbeck? What are you talking about? I'd love to see a link of some Titans players showing disrespect or arrogance... offer me some evidence that the Tacks are looking past the Cows... are you just making this up? I seriously want to know what you are talking about.:tedc:

gwallaia
09-19-2008, 09:40 AM
Wait, here's another.

Kris Brown kicked five field goals on October 7, 2007, against the Miami Dolphins at home, including the game-winner on a career-long 57-yarder with a second remaining, to lead the Texans to a 22-19 victory over Miami. Brown set an NFL single-game record with three field goals of 54 yards or more. He hit two 54-yarders earlier in the game. Neil Rackers and Morten Andersen are the only other kickers to kick 3 field goals of 50+ yards in a single game.

I think Brown and Bironas are on par with each other, to borrow your clich'e. I don't think one or the other is that much better than the other right now.

Bipolar The Titan
09-19-2008, 09:40 AM
Without looking up all the clutch stats, I do recall screaming very loudly at Reliant when Brown drilled a 57 yarder to beat the Colts. I know, I know, Bironas nailed a 60 yarder to beat them as well.

I remember that. Cool. But what in the wild world of sports is this?

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f95/bipolartitan/krissy.jpg

CloakNNNdagger
09-19-2008, 09:48 AM
The potential bright side of this upcoming game is Collins history of minimalistic long bomb threat.

In 164 games and 5,277 passing attempts, only 439 have gone for more than 20 yds and 65 for more than 40 yds.

Of course, if the Tacks RBs can't be stopped, and no QB pressure can be had, then Collins can plink and plunk us to death.:gun:

Bipolar The Titan
09-19-2008, 09:48 AM
Wait, here's another.



I think Brown and Bironas are on par with each other, to borrow your clich'e. I don't think one or the other is that much better than the other right now.

I'll act like that other guy... hang on..

*Bipolar puts on ridiculous bull-pen mask*

uhh... you guys needed five fg to beat the Dolphins! You stink-a! :loser

no really..

Impressive.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f95/bipolartitan/Vader.jpg

but does your guy have a groovy theme song?

YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-jIxIPb_6E)

Bipolar The Titan
09-19-2008, 10:07 AM
you know, I've gone around the web, looking at stats, rankings, reading summaries and the best I can surmise is that Brown is a guy who has improved since that choke job that he allegedly missed on purpose. It seems there was a turning point in November 2006 when Texans Coach Kubiak made this comment about his kicking game. “Well, it’s a concern because Kris has missed a few kicks in the past few weeks, and they have been some big kicks, and we have got to get that better. We’ve got to get that done. And nobody knows that more than Kris.”

so maybe he's not the joker I remember three years ago. http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=2996

it seems he's turned it around. The worst of what I could find was too old to seem relevant in light of recent performance.

CloakNNNdagger
09-19-2008, 10:30 AM
Some interesting numbers. The Tacks have won the last 6 games in this series. In the last 5 games, the Tacks have not won by more than 8..........two of the five games were won by 6, two others were won by just 3.

dalemurphy
09-19-2008, 10:50 AM
I can't believe there is an actual pissing contest centered around who has the best kicker. Times like this is proof that I spend too much time on these message boards!

Bipolar The Titan
09-19-2008, 11:20 AM
Some interesting numbers. The Tacks have won the last 6 games in this series. In the last 5 games, the Tacks have not won by more than 8..........two of the five games were won by 6, two others were won by just 3.
That's good relevant history there. I really enjoyed that other post you dropped last hour. You seem to abound with insight. However, I am going to go out on a limb and call this one as not being all that close. I expect the Titans to play as champions and completely obliterate the Texans. Well, not obliterate. Dismantle the Texans in a fashion similar to that in the way the Bengals were caged last week.

I can't believe there is an actual pissing contest centered around who has the best kicker. Times like this is proof that I spend too much time on these message boards!

a pissing contest? I don't really think that's quite the word for it. I'm over here making references to Blazing Saddles and posting theme songs with instrumentation by The Knack. So, no, this is not an ACTUAL pissing contest by any stretch of the imagination. I find it as humorous as you do it seems.

spurstexanstros
09-19-2008, 11:22 AM
Some interesting numbers. The Tacks have won the last 6 games in this series. In the last 5 games, the Tacks have not won by more than 8..........two of the five games were won by 6, two others were won by just 3.

exactly right!!! The only reason the titans were 10-6 was because of us and two plays in those games. They say the league is a one possesion game well it happened to us twice. At home Dunta got beat and in Tenn when Jacoby fumbled. that is how close yall were to being 8-8. Thats in the past. The games have always been close. I am done talking anything with this dude. i just cant see the merit of someone coming to an opposing fan site and insulting their fans. great you like your team... great you think they are better than ours great.... relax broham.... we ragg on the titans and tennesee because its fun and easy and well its our site. i can only speak for myself but.. I dont go to other team sites and looking for it. I will mix it up. if its presented. So yes, her you may see a few posts regarding inbred children of uranus and yes you may hear a few moonshine cracks. Its here only...not on your site. If there are Texan fans that go to other sites and start trouble.. then they deserve to get some grief. Your not gonna convince us. Titans suck end of story.


Athens of the South? really? I thought the Athens of the south would be the actual Athens, you know Athens , Georgia.........
I think texans bill is right.. they stole it from the jets just like they stole team and colors. Personally, I think they named it Titans was be cause it rhymed. I still prefer the tackling elvi or the Algores

Blazing Arrow
09-19-2008, 11:45 AM
:foottap: You fickle Tinnbred fans.... I thought Vince Young won that game all by himself...

The exulted one allowed him a moment of glory knowing that there would be plenty more for him in the future ... you know?

stiff
09-19-2008, 11:50 AM
on your lame injury card excuse...


http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamecenter/29287/HST_Gamebook.pdf

you really think it would be that different?
well, maybe it was... I hunted hard for an injury report.


I have no status. Here is the link.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/preview?gid=20071021034
A. Green carried the ball 11 times for 39 yards. He was "injured". It was only week 7. I don't know... could'a/would'a/should'a... one yard short... whatever.


The Texans led the league in injuries last year. Inactives do not take into account those placed on injured reserve. Of course that leads the question as to why the Texans keep having so many players on IR? not saying it would have changed much. The games tend to be competitive and Tennessee usually the victor. Kind of like when the Texans play the Jaguars.

Bipolar The Titan
09-19-2008, 11:53 AM
Illiteration - The misspelling of two consecutive words on a message board post.

yeah, I'm familiar with the Urban and UnWord Dictionaries...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=illiteration
http://www.unwords.com/unword/illiteration.html

I'm not following... sorry... must be TennHead-itis...

what? did I make some type of typographical or grammatical error?

Alliteration is spelled with an A.

I guess your post is illiteration?

spurstexanstros
09-19-2008, 11:59 AM
yeah, I'm familiar with the Urban and UnWord Dictionaries...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=illiteration
http://www.unwords.com/unword/illiteration.html

I'm not following... sorry... must be TennHead-itis...

what? did I make some type of typographical or grammatical error?

Alliteration is spelled with an A.

I guess your post is illiteration?

What are we Canadian? correcting grammar? just let er rip.... grammar be damned.......

hey hey hey Fat Albert is coming this way........ can some one alert the guys in white jackets.

Bipolar The Titan
09-19-2008, 12:14 PM
So the fact that they are the Imbred children of Uranus has no irony here? I know its been said a million times couldnt resist

The Titans produced other offspring, mating with either other Titans or other creatures. These offspring are also called Titans.

the Titans of Greek mythology are the twelve children of Gaia and Uranus:
http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/religionmyth/g/Titans.htm

I suppose it does. I said it was worth of lampooning. What do you want from me? You want me to cop to butt sex? I don't have a sisiter and if I did I certainly wouldn't **** her. I'm an intelligent, civilized southern gentleman. I was taught well by my parents. I treat people well. I go to church. I vote. I've got a family. So, I like the local NFL team. Sue me.

Your logo is a cow. Although it's sacred and revered in India we eat them for lunch in America. I'm not over here wearing out the livestock routine. What are you go to do? Give me a lecture about the culture of the cowboy and the cattle drive at which point I suppose I could point to the team from Dallas and imply that they are your master.. then you all chant 19-10 and then I respond 23-22...

do we really want to do that?

Bipolar The Titan
09-19-2008, 12:21 PM
Titan only responds to positive comments about the Tennbreds. He's always been a complete homer. He says nothing bothers him, yet his posts have such a condescending tone..

I thing his little Reebok NFL Apparel Titan panties get all bunched up.

And thank god my only memories about the Oilers was my dad throwing stuff at the tv because he was "done with that f'ing team."

Ahhhh... How things change. They went to a Super Bowl in TN, what a great franchise blah blah blah.

Well now its week 3 of the 2008 season, and the organization still doesn't have any Lombardi trophies.

Silver lining alert: at least the NFL championship was WITHIN REACH!
well, I'm trying to foster positive relations here... I try to respond to all posts it's just that I have a criteria that dictates that I respond to them according to worthiness... not necessarily the order of their submission. Last year we parted ways amicably, Shaft... so run the mouth. I'd like to cook you some crow pie.

Bipolar The Titan
09-19-2008, 12:45 PM
exactly right!!! The only reason the titans were 10-6 was because of us and two plays in those games. They say the league is a one possesion game well it happened to us twice. At home Dunta got beat and in Tenn when Jacoby fumbled. that is how close yall were to being 8-8. Thats in the past. The games have always been close. I am done talking anything with this dude.I have a feeling you're just getting started. You got to play 60 minutes. You sound like Norv Turner crying. :violin It's a game of inches... for sixty minutes.. I hear so much would'a/should'a here... It's amazing.
i just cant see the merit of someone coming to an opposing fan site and insulting their fans.
When, where and how... I've been down right cordial. I haven't been insulting anyone. Actually, I don't even feel offended... I think the white trash stuff is in poor taste but I'll take the 10-2 all-time to keep me warm at night. So you're insulted huh? Did I hurt your feelings ripping on your kicker blowing the 2005 game in Nashville? :violin aww... call an WAAAAmbulance.
great you like your team... great you think they are better than ours great.... relax broham.... we ragg on the titans and tennesee because its fun and easy and well its our site.
that's fine... rag on... and I'll defend.
i can only speak for myself but.. I dont go to other team sites and looking for it. I will mix it up. if its presented. So yes, her you may see a few posts regarding inbred children of uranus and yes you may hear a few moonshine cracks. Its here only...not on your site. If there are Texan fans that go to other sites and start trouble.. then they deserve to get some grief. Your not gonna convince us. Titans suck end of story.
well, the SUCK Titans win over the AWESOME Texans 83% of the time. And a few Tex-types wander out of the pasture to goTitans... hell, the website here displays a link there.. you ever look at the front page? Believe it or not buddy the admins of this site and others like it encourage what you can not see the "merit" in... I welcome well meaning fans of another feather to the site from which I hail. Sitting around with nothing but a bunch of homer buddies isn't any fun. It's good to inject some objectivity and partial predjudice. It makes for great debate. I don't live in a cookie cutter world.

Athens of the South? really? I thought the Athens of the south would be the actual Athens, you know Athens , Georgia.........
I think texans bill is right.. they stole it from the jets just like they stole team and colors. Personally, I think they named it Titans was be cause it rhymed. I still prefer the tackling elvi or the Algores
It's not rhyme. Hells Bells is rhyme. I guess it is a "found" name. For what it's worth the Jets organization had to approve of it's usage... what of your own name? Does Kansas City take issue with that? Do I have to explain that one to you?:potkettle:

Texan_Bill
09-19-2008, 01:06 PM
Does Kansas City take issue with that? Do I have to explain that one to you?:potkettle:

The Houston Texans didn't have to ask or let the Chefs approve it. The Texans (now Chefs) was an AFL team. The Dallas Texans moved to Kansas City as an AFL team... But guess what an owner with class does like Bob McNair??

Picks up the phone and personally asks Lamar Hunt (RIP) for permission to use the name anyway.....

Bipolar The Titan
09-19-2008, 01:11 PM
The Houston Texans didn't have to ask or let the Chefs approve it. The Texans (now Chefs) was an AFL team. The Dallas Texans moved to Kansas City as an AFL team... But guess what an owner with class does like Bob McNair??

Picks up the phone and personally asks Lamar Hunt (RIP) for permission to use the name anyway.....

I didn't imply that they had to ask permission. The New York Titans were an AFL team as well... educate me oh wise one.. for real, I'm asking a respectful question here... what did my scumbag pos owner do?

was there a lawsuit or something? I imagine that permission was sought. Seriously... your post seems to imply Bud did something wrong...

tell me what and how. please. :tiphat:

Texan_Bill
09-19-2008, 01:14 PM
... what did my scumbag pos owner do?


Seriously, is that a rhetorical question??

Vinny
09-19-2008, 01:15 PM
When, where and how... I've been down right cordial. I haven't been insulting anyone. Actually, I don't even feel offended... I think the white trash stuff is in poor taste but I'll take the 10-2 all-time to keep me warm at night. So you're insulted huh? Did I hurt your feelings ripping on your kicker blowing the 2005 game in Nashville? :violin aww... call an WAAAAmbulance.

that's fine... rag on... and I'll defend.

well, the SUCK Titans win over the AWESOME Texans 83% of the time. And a few Tex-types wander out of the pasture to goTitans... hell, the website here displays a link there.. you ever look at the front page? Believe it or not buddy the admins of this site and others like it encourage what you can not see the "merit" in.
I've told him I don't want that white trash stuff but he doesn't listen too well....don't think our community really cares for the racist stuff or the mean spirited generalizations.

On the second point...this website participates in the fan2fan alliance (http://www.f2fa.com/) and we encourage rival fans to come over and participate.

Bipolar The Titan
09-19-2008, 01:22 PM
Seriously, is that a rhetorical question??

no, it's not. I thought I was clear. There isn't even a hint of sarcasm in the query. :tiphat: In regards to contacting the Jets about the shelved name? Did he not act in a similar fashion?

Bipolar The Titan
09-19-2008, 01:23 PM
I've told him I don't want that white trash stuff but he doesn't listen too well....don't think our community really cares for the racist stuff or the mean spirited generalizations.

On the second point...this website participates in the fan2fan alliance (http://www.f2fa.com/) and we encourage rival fans to come over and participate.
thanks. +rep

Honoring Earl 34
09-19-2008, 01:26 PM
I didn't imply that they had to ask permission. The New York Titans were an AFL team as well... educate me oh wise one.. for real, I'm asking a respectful question here... what did my scumbag pos owner do?

was there a lawsuit or something? I imagine that permission was sought. Seriously... your post seems to imply Bud did something wrong...

tell me what and how. please. :tiphat:

I think truth be told ... Bud felt betrayed just as much by the city as the city did by Bud . The city really got mad when the Titans made it to the SB cause that was supposed to be ours .

Then we freaken got Charlie Casserly who set us back years but when I open up the paper and bypass what Justice wrote ... I see things about the Texans ... so I'm good .

HOU-TEX
09-19-2008, 01:26 PM
Seriously, is that a rhetorical question??

I was thinking the same thing. To me, things like this is just more reason the Oilers history should've been left in Houston. I reckon at least half their fans are clueless of what went on prior to moving to the Backwoods.

Texan_Bill
09-19-2008, 01:27 PM
no, it's not. I thought I was clear. There isn't even a hint of sarcasm in the query. :tiphat: In regards to contacting the Jets about the shelved name? Did he not act in a similar fashion?

Dud hasn't acted, in any scenario, with the least bit of class. Who knows if he contacted the Owner of the Jets or not personally... My guess is that he had attorneys contact the Jets for him rather than make a personal phone call..

Bipolar The Titan
09-19-2008, 01:30 PM
I think truth be told ... Bud felt betrayed just as much by the city as the city did by Bud . The city really got mad when the Titans made it to the SB cause that was supposed to be ours .

Then we freaken got Charlie Casserly who set us back years but when I open up the paper and bypass what Justice wrote ... I see things about the Texans ... so I'm good .

this has to be the most honest, genuine post I have ever read from a Houston fan on the matter. Excuse my ignorance. Who is Justice and what did he write? Is he a columist for The Chronicle ?

Texan_Bill
09-19-2008, 01:32 PM
I was thinking the same thing. To me, things like this is just more reason the Oilers history should've been left in Houston. I reckon at least half their fans are clueless of what went on prior to moving to the Backwoods.

I doubt they remember that Pud prostituted himself to Jacksonville a few years earlier, like a child throwing a temper tantrum to get his extra seats and ruin our scoreboard / light show... Titans fan may ask why he approached Jacksonville?? Because that's who that loser, jabba the hut lookin', drunk, finger flipping, carpet baggin POS is...

Bipolar The Titan
09-19-2008, 01:33 PM
Dud hasn't acted, in any scenario, with the least bit of class. Who knows if he contacted the Owner of the Jets or not personally... My guess is that he had attorneys contact the Jets for him rather than make a personal phone call..

You're guess is probably right. You have peaked my curiosity though. I know for a fact that Bud called then Mayor Bredesen on the phone. So he may have called The Jets owner. I don't know much about the Jets. I'd like to look that up later. I'll report my findings, if any, to you.

Bipolar The Titan
09-19-2008, 01:36 PM
I doubt they remember that Pud prostituted himself to Jacksonville a few years earlier, like a child throwing a temper tantrum to get his extra seats and ruin our scoreboard / light show... Titans fan may ask why he approached Jacksonville?? Because that's who that loser, jabba the hut lookin', drunk, finger flipping, carpet baggin POS is...
Didn't Jacksonville just lose a bid to Charlotte at the time?

lol at the jabba thing... He does look a bit hutt-ish.

I thought he really wanted a stadium but was willing to settle for renovations. That's not the case?

Texan_Bill
09-19-2008, 01:44 PM
You're guess is probably right. You have peaked my curiosity though. I know for a fact that Bud called then Mayor Bredesen on the phone. So he may have called The Jets owner. I don't know much about the Jets. I'd like to look that up later. I'll report my findings, if any, to you.

Bredesen had a fist full of cash for Dud... There was no financial gain in calling the Jets organization.

Texan_Bill
09-19-2008, 01:45 PM
Didn't Jacksonville just lose a bid to Charlotte at the time?

lol at the jabba thing... He does look a bit hutt-ish.

I thought he really wanted a stadium but was willing to settle for renovations. That's not the case?

I liken him to what Kelly LaBrock turned Chet into, in the movie Weird Science:

http://msp86.photobucket.com/albums/k108/countryrickrocks/weird_science_large_02.jpg

Brando
09-19-2008, 01:56 PM
Didn't Jacksonville just lose a bid to Charlotte at the time?

lol at the jabba thing... He does look a bit hutt-ish.

I thought he really wanted a stadium but was willing to settle for renovations. That's not the case?

No. The Jacksonville thing dates all the way back to 1987. That's when Bud had a temper tantrum and held the city of Houston ransom to make renovations to the Dome. Then after giving in to his demands Bud takes the Tennessee offer 8 years later anyway because he couldn't get a new stadium. Jacksonville was awarded an NFL team on November 30, 1993. Bud is a POS and an organization is what the owner is. Shit runs down hill.

Texecutioner
09-19-2008, 01:57 PM
I have a feeling you're just getting started. You got to play 60 minutes. You sound like Norv Turner crying. :violin It's a game of inches... for sixty minutes.. I hear so much would'a/should'a here... It's amazing.

When, where and how... I've been down right cordial. I haven't been insulting anyone. Actually, I don't even feel offended... I think the white trash stuff is in poor taste but I'll take the 10-2 all-time to keep me warm at night. So you're insulted huh? Did I hurt your feelings ripping on your kicker blowing the 2005 game in Nashville? :violin aww... call an WAAAAmbulance.

that's fine... rag on... and I'll defend.

well, the SUCK Titans win over the AWESOME Texans 83% of the time. And a few Tex-types wander out of the pasture to goTitans... hell, the website here displays a link there.. you ever look at the front page? Believe it or not buddy the admins of this site and others like it encourage what you can not see the "merit" in... I welcome well meaning fans of another feather to the site from which I hail. Sitting around with nothing but a bunch of homer buddies isn't any fun. It's good to inject some objectivity and partial predjudice. It makes for great debate. I don't live in a cookie cutter world.


It's not rhyme. Hells Bells is rhyme. I guess it is a "found" name. For what it's worth the Jets organization had to approve of it's usage... what of your own name? Does Kansas City take issue with that? Do I have to explain that one to you?:potkettle:


Well after reading through the threads, I'm not going to sit here and go back and forth with a bunch of petty insults with you Bi-Polar The Titan. I actually think you've displayed pretty good manners considering how many times you've been blasted in here. Going back and forth about the past is a waste of time, and as a Texans fan I don't think I'm in a position to be blasting off any other teams other than the Lions or Raiders at this point.

I would like to ask you a question though. As an opposing fan playing the Texans this week, what do you think will give the Titans a really tough match up? What sort of game plan would do you think would work against the Titans in order to get a victory?

Do you think that the Texans will be able to have success throwing the ball a lot on the Titans secondary, or do you think the Texans will have a better chance at running the ball up the gut and testing Albert?

Who do you think will win the battle? The crumby WR's on the Titans, or the crumby secondary of the Texans?

DO you think your secondary will be able to stop AJ or hold him under 100 yards? I doubt that, but I'd like to hear your opinion and why?

And where is Crumpler? I thought he was supposed to be the go to guy in Tennessee? Scaife will not be consistent.

And where do you honestly see this Texans team at the end of 16 games? What do you think their record will be and why?

HOU-TEX
09-19-2008, 02:04 PM
No. The Jacksonville thing dates all the way back to 1987. That's when Bud had a temper tantrum and held the city of Houston ransom to make renovations to the Dome. Then after giving in to his demands Bud takes the Tennessee offer 8 years later anyway because he couldn't get a new stadium. Jacksonville was awarded an NFL team on November 30, 1993. Bud is a POS and an organiztaion is what the owner is. Shit runs down hill.

*ahem* Aren't we still paying for those renovations? LWPO! (Laughing While Pissed Off) :gun:

Texan_Bill
09-19-2008, 02:09 PM
*ahem* Aren't we still paying for those renovations? LWPO! (Laughing While Pissed Off) :gun:

YES!!! Thus, much of the lingering animosity....

leebigeztx
09-19-2008, 02:11 PM
I still don't see the anger people have for nashville or bud. We shoud blame the former mayor lanier. He took a business prop and mde it personal. The old soul singer had a song, "its cheaper to keep her." I can ask anyone with any sense, if we had to give bud a 350m stadium vs a 350m stadium plus 600m franchise fee. which do u want? Not only that, if La wouldn't have fumbled, houston wouldn't even have a team now. Top that off, they gave Drayton, te most undeserving owner in houston a stadium 1st. If it would have been put up for a vote, I guesing the oilers would stil be in houston.

Honoring Earl 34
09-19-2008, 02:16 PM
this has to be the most honest, genuine post I have ever read from a Houston fan on the matter. Excuse my ignorance. Who is Justice and what did he write? Is he a columist for The Chronicle ?

Richard Justice writes for The Chronicle . He wrote an article on how Alex Gibbs yelled at his players to much . Texan Chick questioned him on the article ( HOF OL coach vs sports writer ) and the guy started insulting her .

Texan_Bill
09-19-2008, 02:18 PM
Richard Justice writes for The Chronicle . He wrote an article on how Alex Gibbs yelled at his players to much . Texan Chick questioned him on the article ( HOF OL coach vs hack) and the guy started stalking her .

Fixed for accuracy.....

Mr teX
09-19-2008, 02:19 PM
I still don't see the anger people have for nashville or bud. We shoud blame the former mayor lanier. He took a business prop and mde it personal. The old soul singer had a song, "its cheaper to keep her." I can ask anyone with any sense, if we had to give bud a 350m stadium vs a 350m stadium plus 600m franchise fee. which do u want? Not only that, if La wouldn't have fumbled, houston wouldn't even have a team now. Top that off, they gave Drayton, te most undeserving owner in houston a stadium 1st. If it would have been put up for a vote, I guesing the oilers would stil be in houston.

we only had to pay what we did for the texans b/c that turd left......... direct cause & effect. & LA as in the city doesn't want a team; that much is obvious. The NFL just wants so badly to put one there b/c it's a top TV market. Bud just wanted to leave all along... I think TB mentioned his failed attempt in J-ville years before. No consideration of the fans & city's connection to the team, the history that franchise developed here. As far as i'm concerned, the only thing worse in terms of franchise's switching cities is the Baltimore colts packing up in the middle of the night going to Indy. Only concern he had was of his pocket book. Thinking about that whole ordeal just makes me want to snatch that toupe off his dome & stuff it down his throat....

Honoring Earl 34
09-19-2008, 02:23 PM
Fixed for accuracy.....

You know this storm and all has my memory clouded .

Brando
09-19-2008, 02:29 PM
I want to see the Texans hit Albert Haynesworth hard, I mean knock the living shit out of him. He likes to play dirty so we should give him some of his own medicine. I want to see grass stains on his helmet and jersey.:thisbig:

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/football/bob_blog/haynesworth.jpg




I'm ready for the game! I hope the Texans control the line of scrimmage.........

Mr teX
09-19-2008, 02:32 PM
I want to see the Texans hit Albert Haynesworth hard, I mean knock the living shit out of him. He likes to play dirty so we should give him some of his own medicine. I want to see grass stains on his helmet and jersey.:thisbig:

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/football/bob_blog/haynesworth.jpg




I'm ready for the game! I hope the Texans control the line of scrimmage.........

not likely...

Texan_Bill
09-19-2008, 02:49 PM
You know this storm and all has my memory clouded .

Understood... Just doing my neighborly part to help pick you up.

Honoring Earl 34
09-19-2008, 03:24 PM
I want to see the Texans hit Albert Haynesworth hard, I mean knock the living shit out of him. He likes to play dirty so we should give him some of his own medicine. I want to see grass stains on his helmet and jersey.:thisbig:

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/football/bob_blog/haynesworth.jpg




I'm ready for the game! I hope the Texans control the line of scrimmage.........

Fat Albert had a concusion in week one so how about a false start on the first play ... hmmm .... it may be dirty but soooooooooooo .

Do we have a guard that fires out hard enough to ring someone's bell ?

Blazing Arrow
09-19-2008, 04:16 PM
I want to see the Texans hit Albert Haynesworth hard, I mean knock the living shit out of him. He likes to play dirty so we should give him some of his own medicine. I want to see grass stains on his helmet and jersey.:thisbig:

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/football/bob_blog/haynesworth.jpg




I'm ready for the game! I hope the Texans control the line of scrimmage.........

Other then the Head stomp incedent what has be done as a dirty play?

Texan_Bill
09-19-2008, 04:18 PM
Other then the Head stomp incedent what has be done as a dirty play?

Kicked his Hartwig in the chest and thrown MJD to the ground for which he was penalized and fined for.....

Texecutioner
09-19-2008, 04:20 PM
Kicked another team ate in the chest at practice during a drill. You must have missed that one.

What are you waiting for Albert to do, shank a guy in the trenches to finally call him dirty? After he stomped on a guy's head during a game, the verdict on Albert was out. No deliberation, no consulting, no discussion. He is dirty as hell.

Brando
09-19-2008, 04:21 PM
Other then the Head stomp incedent what has be done as a dirty play?




Kicked his Hartwig in the chest and thrown MJD to the ground for which he was penalized and fined for.....


Thanks Bill:tiphat:


He's a good player but I don't like him and I can only hope the Texans punch him in the mouth.

Blazing Arrow
09-19-2008, 04:31 PM
Kicked his Hartwig in the chest and thrown MJD to the ground for which he was penalized and fined for.....

Hartwig was in practice and to his own teammate.

MJD was very questionable and the entire bench for the Titans were calling fowl when the flag was thrown.

From the statement I quoted it seems as if he has a habitual pattern of fines and penalties for his play which is not accurate.

I personally have been pretty vocal about AH's issues but allot of them seem to boil to a head when the stomp happened. He was out of line and I really think he thought his career was on the line. He did what was necessary to grow up and mature which I don't think anyone can fault him on. We are not 2 years past that incident and while he still deserves heat for it I do not think it defines who he is as a player.

Now if you called him a lazy slug who sits out plays and fakes injury because he needs a breather ... well I cannot really argue that one.

Blazing Arrow
09-19-2008, 04:36 PM
Kicked another team ate in the chest at practice during a drill. You must have missed that one.

What are you waiting for Albert to do, shank a guy in the trenches to finally call him dirty? After he stomped on a guy's head during a game, the verdict on Albert was out. No deliberation, no consulting, no discussion. He is dirty as hell.

I actually told TB who the other player was in practice ... so yeah I recall it well.

No I am not waiting for him to do that but if he was hacking a guy at the knee or hitting a QB late the fines would increase. The guy was in the wrong, he admits that. He went to anger management classes, did not fight the fine or the suspension. He took it like a man and fesses up to his mistake and on top of that did his time. In the end how much more can he do to prove he is not that same player anymore? In your eyes he is dirty because of one incident in 5 seasons of play. About time to forgive and see what he has to offer after rehab.

kcdoubleeagle
09-19-2008, 04:59 PM
I am afraid that we are playing the best team in the league this weekend.........now that the WORST QB TO EVER PLAY IN THE NFL....is not starting they are almost unstoppable....I hate to say it...but I am afraid our o-line is going to get their teeth smashed in. I even hate to say this...but I truly believe if they stay healthy they will win the Superbowl.

HOU-TEX
09-19-2008, 05:04 PM
FYI, It sounds like TJ will be out of Sundays game. It also appears Okam will be activated.

Sixteenth-year veteran Jeff Zgonina will start in Johnson’s place alongside Amobi Okoye. Zgonina played in all 16 games for the Texans last season, starting one. Behind Zgonina, rookie defensive tackle Frank Okam will see his first game action since being drafted in the fifth round from the University of Texas. He was inactive against the Steelers in Week 1.

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=4651

HJam72
09-19-2008, 05:08 PM
I am afraid that we are playing the best team in the league this weekend.........now that the WORST QB TO EVER PLAY IN THE NFL....is not starting they are almost unstoppable....I hate to say it...but I am afraid our o-line is going to get their teeth smashed in. I even hate to say this...but I truly believe if they stay healthy they will win the Superbowl.

Meh, it's a problem, but they're not THAT good.

Blazing Arrow
09-19-2008, 05:19 PM
If it helps our best WR will be out for the game. I would tell you his name but no one would know who he is.

Bipolar The Titan
09-19-2008, 05:32 PM
Well after reading through the threads, I'm not going to sit here and go back and forth with a bunch of petty insults with you Bi-Polar The Titan. I actually think you've displayed pretty good manners considering how many times you've been blasted in here. Going back and forth about the past is a waste of time, and as a Texans fan I don't think I'm in a position to be blasting off any other teams other than the Lions or Raiders at this point.This is just the post I've been looking for. I believe a sincere thank you is in order. :tiphat: I appreciate that. I'm really am not one to favor stupid, petty insults either. Speaking of past really isn't completely useless though. It's all a matter of how it's being done. I know that I've learned things posting here. So there is some measure of profit in it.

I would like to ask you a question though. As an opposing fan playing the Texans this week, what do you think will give the Titans a really tough match up? What sort of game plan would do you think would work against the Titans in order to get a victory? Run the ball. Run the ball. Run the ball. You absolutely must be able to run the ball. Being able to convert short yardage through the air is a good key but the whole pass defense scheme of the Titans begins with pressuring the qb. Run the ball until you see an opening to take a shot. Absolutely must run effectively right at Albert and right over Tulloch. Pass enough to keep them honest. Don't throw at Cortland Finnegan. Pick on Harper.

Do you think that the Texans will be able to have success throwing the ball a lot on the Titans secondary, or do you think the Texans will have a better chance at running the ball up the gut and testing Albert?
I think I answered this in my previous answer but to clarify... they may have success passing if they can establish the run early. If they want to pass first without a seriously awesome qb, o-line, and wr set... eh... good luck with that. Their chances begin with the run what they do in that way should, at least in my opinion, dictate what they can do through the air.

Who do you think will win the battle? The crumby WR's on the Titans, or the crumby secondary of the Texans? That's a bit of an unknown to me. I don't know how poor the db's are and I'm not sure what kind of wr set my team has now since the team has essentially become Kerry Collins'. (that is if last week vs. Cinci is any indication) I do know that I like my chances a lot better with out that crumby Longhorn under center. He should improve in time. I'm just thankful we've got Collins. I really had no idea he still "had it". (I concede that's debatable)

DO you think your secondary will be able to stop AJ or hold him under 100 yards? I doubt that, but I'd like to hear your opinion and why?
no. I expect AJ to go off. The guy wants to play us bad. He's a top flight receiver and he's bound to catch a deep ball or two... or five. He will probably be defensed quite well by Finnegan and I have a lot of confidence in Hope and Griffin as safeties. It's a key match-up for sure. I expect him to get his 100 yards with relative ease. He should catch at least one td pass. Finnegan might even pick the quarterback... especially if M.S. is replaced S.R. I think it will be a score card decision on AJ vs. TEN db's though. Very close. I don't look for Finnegan or Johnson to be totally dominate.
And where is Crumpler? I thought he was supposed to be the go to guy in Tennessee? Scaife will not be consistent. Scaife isn't that bad. Have you some great OLB that will have his way or something? Mario? Crumpler is a bit of a mystery to me. I expected him to make some noise receiving but he does block very well. He may help spring Burner Johnson on the sweep... I'm not really sure why his receiving production hasn't materialized. Maybe Sunday will be his coming out party.

And where do you honestly see this Texans team at the end of 16 games? What do you think their record will be and why?(7-9) for the simple fact that they haven't ever done anything to make me think otherwise. Entering week 3 winless doesn't help... but you never know... look at the Saints... their town and stadium was tore up by a hurricane and they nearly went to the Super Bowl. Anything can happen. I do think that Jacksonville is going to be in the $#!tter after it is all said and done so for what it's worth I see the Texans with a third place finish and possibly two wins over the Jags. I see the Colts as a 5th seed. I really feel like Tennessee has got it together this year. Tennessee could just as easily be that 5th seed.

kiwitexansfan
09-19-2008, 06:11 PM
If running the ball is the key to beating the Titans, I don't give us much hope. I truly believe we can move the ball through the air on anyone, our pass blocking is solid and our QB and WR are above average. Where it breaks down is that with no ground game, opponents can just pin their ears back and go after an admittedly fragile Schaub.

I look forward to seeing Kearse/VDB vs Winston and Brown in pass protection, I like our young tackles and the Titans bookends should be a good litmus test.

CloakNNNdagger
09-19-2008, 06:13 PM
Collins is not a TD machine.

Career TD------173/Int............172 % compl----55.6/QB rate.......73.5

Tacks career:
2006 TD------1 /Int............6 % compl----46.7/QB rate.......42.3
2007 TD------0 /Int............0 % compl----61.0/QB rate.......79.9
2008 TD------1 /Int............0 % compl----69.6/QB rate.......109.5

Again, if our running game can't get going and no QB pressure is had, look for Collins to plink and plunk us to death.

Vinny
09-19-2008, 06:16 PM
If running the ball is the key to beating the Titans, I don't give us much hope. I truly believe we can move the ball through the air on anyone, our pass blocking is solid and our QB and WR are above average. Where it breaks down is that with no ground game, opponents can just pin their ears back and go after an admittedly fragile Schaub.

I look forward to seeing Kearse/VDB vs Winston and Brown in pass protection, I like our young tackles and the Titans bookends should be a good litmus test.The Titans are second in the NFL against the run and 7th vs the pass...so they will be tough to move the ball on period - especially if we can't run the ball and are always in 2nd and 3rd and long all day.

ESAD2-14
09-19-2008, 06:18 PM
This is just the post I've been looking for. I believe a sincere thank you is in order. :tiphat: I appreciate that. I'm really am not one to favor stupid, petty insults either. Speaking of past really isn't completely useless though. It's all a matter of how it's being done. I know that I've learned things posting here. So there is some measure of profit in it.

Not here to throw smack at you dude. But from what I have seen with in this thread you did your part of throwing around petty insults. If your going to do it at least own up to it.

I do believe it was Blazing Arrow that turned this thread on it's head anyway. He was good up until post #41. Then it was like the light went on, or was it off, upstairs.

Anyway, hopefully the Texans pull this one out. Although I have a feeling the D is going to continue getting schooled until DC Smith can afford to buy a clue or 10.

New_Texans
09-19-2008, 06:36 PM
If it helps our best WR will be out for the game. I would tell you his name but no one would know who he is.


ooo Ooooo, ill guess


Gage?



Wade?




:hmmm:

CloakNNNdagger
09-19-2008, 06:44 PM
ooo Ooooo, ill guess


Gage?



Wade?




:hmmm:

I would suspect that no one has heard of Brandon Jones...........and hopefully following the game, he will remain deep in anonimity.

New_Texans
09-19-2008, 06:51 PM
I would suspect that no one has heard of Brandon Jones...........and hopefully following the game, he will remain deep in anonimity.

Hmm, I'd hope so too. We have had Fitzgerald's come out of no where :gun:

Texans_Chick
09-19-2008, 07:04 PM
The Titans are second in the NFL against the run and 7th vs the pass...so they will be tough to move the ball on period - especially if we can't run the ball and are always in 2nd and 3rd and long all day.

That plus if the Titans can run all day could make this ugly.

The Texans have to figure some stuff out on offense. The Titans D is tough on a lot of teams and seem to have the Texans' number. (except in the 4th Q of that weirdo game).

Texecutioner
09-19-2008, 07:14 PM
This is just the post I've been looking for. I believe a sincere thank you is in order. :tiphat: I appreciate that. I'm really am not one to favor stupid, petty insults either. Speaking of past really isn't completely useless though. It's all a matter of how it's being done. I know that I've learned things posting here. So there is some measure of profit in it.
Run the ball. Run the ball. Run the ball. You absolutely must be able to run the ball. Being able to convert short yardage through the air is a good key but the whole pass defense scheme of the Titans begins with pressuring the qb. Run the ball until you see an opening to take a shot. Absolutely must run effectively right at Albert and right over Tulloch. Pass enough to keep them honest. Don't throw at Cortland Finnegan. Pick on Harper.


I think I answered this in my previous answer but to clarify... they may have success passing if they can establish the run early. If they want to pass first without a seriously awesome qb, o-line, and wr set... eh... good luck with that. Their chances begin with the run what they do in that way should, at least in my opinion, dictate what they can do through the air.

That's a bit of an unknown to me. I don't know how poor the db's are and I'm not sure what kind of wr set my team has now since the team has essentially become Kerry Collins'. (that is if last week vs. Cinci is any indication) I do know that I like my chances a lot better with out that crumby Longhorn under center. He should improve in time. I'm just thankful we've got Collins. I really had no idea he still "had it". (I concede that's debatable)


no. I expect AJ to go off. The guy wants to play us bad. He's a top flight receiver and he's bound to catch a deep ball or two... or five. He will probably be defensed quite well by Finnegan and I have a lot of confidence in Hope and Griffin as safeties. It's a key match-up for sure. I expect him to get his 100 yards with relative ease. He should catch at least one td pass. Finnegan might even pick the quarterback... especially if M.S. is replaced S.R. I think it will be a score card decision on AJ vs. TEN db's though. Very close. I don't look for Finnegan or Johnson to be totally dominate.
Scaife isn't that bad. Have you some great OLB that will have his way or something? Mario? Crumpler is a bit of a mystery to me. I expected him to make some noise receiving but he does block very well. He may help spring Burner Johnson on the sweep... I'm not really sure why his receiving production hasn't materialized. Maybe Sunday will be his coming out party.

(7-9) for the simple fact that they haven't ever done anything to make me think otherwise. Entering week 3 winless doesn't help... but you never know... look at the Saints... their town and stadium was tore up by a hurricane and they nearly went to the Super Bowl. Anything can happen. I do think that Jacksonville is going to be in the $#!tter after it is all said and done so for what it's worth I see the Texans with a third place finish and possibly two wins over the Jags. I see the Colts as a 5th seed. I really feel like Tennessee has got it together this year. Tennessee could just as easily be that 5th seed.


Well not much that I can really argue with here. You say that we need to run the ball, well that is always the game plan of Kubiak but we don't have good RB's to run the ball or a great O line to open up the holes. Plus, the Titans have the best run stopper in the league, so I'm not to confident about being able to run the ball against the Titans.

I'd rather see the Texans try and work a lot of short slant passes and screens to run the ball. That always seems to be affective against the blitz, and also when you're playing a good run stopping team. It also helps to set up the actual run.

It should be interesting to see the battle of AJ and the secondary. Hopefully Walter can make some plays as well. He's not going to out speed any one, but if he can run some quick routes when the Titans D is blitzing I think he can make some plays.

How do the Titans play against TE's? I expect to see Daniels get a lot of looks.

I always look forward to watching Michael Griffin though. He's really exciting to watch. I just hope he isn't popping Daniels to much from behind when they throw to Daniels up the middle.

What I'm really worried about is Chris Johnson making plays on us. The guy is a freaking stud speedy scat back that was a GREAT pick. Personally I think the Texans should have Demeco watching this guy's every move, since Demeco is so fast and athletic. Someone needs to keep an eye on Johnson on every play, because the Titans don't really have nothing else on offense. Who better than our most athletic LB to handle the job.

leebigeztx
09-20-2008, 12:29 AM
I would like to see the texans come out in 3wr,1te,1 rb shotgun. Start the game with quick passes to set up 2nd and 4,3rd and 2. Maybe coming out regular, but flexing daniels out opposite of johnson and walters to loosen the defense up. If they think theyre going to line up and run the ball between the tackles or attack with stretch zone runs, they will be sadly mistaken.

Bipolar The Titan
09-20-2008, 08:19 AM
Not here to throw smack at you dude. But from what I have seen with in this thread you did your part of throwing around petty insults. If your going to do it at least own up to it.

I do believe it was Blazing Arrow that turned this thread on it's head anyway. He was good up until post #41. Then it was like the light went on, or was it off, upstairs.


feel free to post or send me some links via/pm as to where... my posting hasn't even approached being offensive especially in light of what I was responding to. For what it's worth this forum is a kindergarten in terms of gentleness as compared to that of other teams such as the Steelers, Redskins or Raiders... so despite what has been said by anyone on either side of the the divide this thread is more akin to a pillow fight than say... The Battle of Antietam.

To term something "petty insult" is rather harsh. I don't believe that I made even one personal attack. Anything I ever said that was negative in nature regarded a player or an instance of past team failure. For what it's worth I don't believe that I've been the victim of "petty insults" either. No one called me a straight to my face a white trash, inbred hillbilly. There was some regional smack jokes tossed around... funny thing is they were directed more at Arrow's posts than mine... I actually live in a wooded area in the hills of Tennessee and if I am not mistaken he lives in Orange County, California... so go figure.

Also, I'd like to emphasize if not clarify one thing to you. You highlighted, bolded, rather my statement that read "I'm really am not one to favor stupid, petty insults either." All that means is that I am not looking for a fight. I do not favor it, but, if you are feeling froggy, jump... Also, I don't fight dirty... I didn't go after anyone's heritage... If I want to get ugly with a fanbase I can just hop over to the Jacksonville Official MB and get all I want and then some. (I seldom bother with that crowd) However, that board can not offer me an intellectual dialog about NFL football. At least I just haven't enough patience... I really think it's impossible... if MuddMonster TT has managed (that's Overalls btw) I'd love to hear about it Tim, but... honestly, I should be commending TexansTalk as a forum for being warm hosts for the most part. It's obvious to me when I am dealing with a kid that's just barely old enough to buy beer and when I am dealing with someone in middle age... I act accordingly. Being bipolar I am prone to shift in mood so my personality is very reflective. Although I do try to do unto others as I would have done unto me I often times do fall into the trap of doing unto others as was done unto me. If you care to protract this any further and post the links contained in the post numbers and copy and paste offensive remarks below the link I will be more than glad to apologize for anything that you can convince me is offensive, petty, and/or insulting. I will own up to anything you show me. The ball is in your court on that one friend.


Anyway, hopefully the Texans pull this one out. Although I have a feeling the D is going to continue getting schooled until DC Smith can afford to buy a clue or 10.
I think that it's entirely possible for the Texans to pull it out. It's a division game of familiar foes. I am actually unsure of how wide the talent gap is or even if it exists at all. I base that on our weakness in the passing game and my relative unfamiliarity with the Texans. Although I am high on Collins and have a lot of hope for him the whole thing could crumple. Collins isn't tested... but if he plays as well or better than last week and the wr's pick it up my confidence will grow. I am extremely optimistic. It's just that I am open to the idea of it disintegrating.

Bipolar The Titan
09-20-2008, 08:21 AM
ooo Ooooo, ill guess


Gage?



Wade?




:hmmm:
http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2007/11/19/sp_raiders502.jpg

this is Bobby Wade these days...

Bipolar The Titan
09-20-2008, 08:29 AM
If running the ball is the key to beating the Titans, I don't give us much hope. I truly believe we can move the ball through the air on anyone, our pass blocking is solid and our QB and WR are above average. Where it breaks down is that with no ground game, opponents can just pin their ears back and go after an admittedly fragile Schaub.

I look forward to seeing Kearse/VDB vs Winston and Brown in pass protection, I like our young tackles and the Titans bookends should be a good litmus test.

One of the Titans biggest strengths is stopping the run. I think it's important to attack a team's strengths initially. Then the weaknesses can be exploited. Your hope is stopping our run. The Titans passing shouldn't be that hard to stop. Your db's will end up getting a pick off a ball a Titan should have caught. I mean one will pop up after hitting Gage or someone in the shoulder pad, or "bounce" off someone's hands. The Titans have been lucky with the interceptions so far... Well, Collins has been... not so much Young. The possibility of a turnover should inspire hope.

Bipolar The Titan
09-20-2008, 09:26 AM
I'd rather see the Texans try and work a lot of short slant passes and screens to run the ball. That always seems to be affective against the blitz, and also when you're playing a good run stopping team. It also helps to set up the actual run.
I don't think that will work against our corners. Finnegan is an attack dog and Harper is a good tackler. I suppose something out of a bunch formation would be good... but I don't know... The kind of defense that Tennessee plays can only really be tamed by smash mouth running with an effective back or dynamic down field passing. Screens, gimmicks and gadgets won't hold up. Too many plays will go for minimal gain... that's just my opinion.

It should be interesting to see the battle of AJ and the secondary. Hopefully Walter can make some plays as well. He's not going to out speed any one, but if he can run some quick routes when the Titans D is blitzing I think he can make some plays.
I agree.
How do the Titans play against TE's? I expect to see Daniels get a lot of looks.
Bulluck is real good in coverage. The defense on a whole is top 5 so I guess it would stand to reason that they play against TE's well. I haven't really thought about it before.

I always look forward to watching Michael Griffin though. He's really exciting to watch. I just hope he isn't popping Daniels to much from behind when they throw to Daniels up the middle. I think "Griff" was a solid pick from an outstanding program. I think he's going to grow into a pro bowler eventually. Finnegan is on pace to make a pro bowl one day. Hope isn't a slouch and Harper isn't exactly a pushover. I think our secondary is tight.

What I'm really worried about is Chris Johnson making plays on us. The guy is a freaking stud speedy scat back that was a GREAT pick. Personally I think the Texans should have Demeco watching this guy's every move, since Demeco is so fast and athletic. Someone needs to keep an eye on Johnson on every play, because the Titans don't really have nothing else on offense. Who better than our most athletic LB to handle the job.

I want to see "Burner" Johnson in the slot. As for the rest of the offense... you might not think Len"whale" is anything special but 'ole "Moby Dick" is a freight train once he gets rolling. He is a punisher. I don't think he's special like LaDainian Tomlinson but he's an Eddie George type of guy in terms of running the ball consistently in short yardage and running hard and often. He isn't a complete back like Eddie though. His hands seem to be coated with fried chicken grease because it seems to me that he can't catch a cold... but that may improve by working with Collins.

The Vince Young situation seems to me to be a huge instance of addition by subtraction... the offense could become a real passing threat under Collins' leadership. I stress leadership... I think the guy is working harder than Vince was and that he's just more accurate, period. So, I'm kinda banking on the wr's to pick it up majorly. In other words I'm putting passing game troubles on Vince... is it fair? I don't know. Tennessee kicked the dogshit out of Cincinnati. I seriously doubt Vince would have been as effective as Collins was in those windy conditions. I was very proud of Collins last week.

CloakNNNdagger
09-20-2008, 10:56 AM
Run the ball. Run the ball. Run the ball. You absolutely must be able to run the ball. Being able to convert short yardage through the air is a good key but the whole pass defense scheme of the Titans begins with pressuring the qb. Run the ball until you see an opening to take a shot. Absolutely must run effectively right at Albert and right over Tulloch. Pass enough to keep them honest. Don't throw at Cortland Finnegan. Pick on Harper.




Albert Einstein once said that the definition of insanity was repeating the same behavior over and over while expecting different results. Well, run, run, run has unfortunately been what the Texans in the past have made their resounding theme. It has consistently resulted in 4 plays of run-run-pass-punt. The run mentality has more so than not led to the RB having his nose stuffed up our center’s butt, with no time to “visualize” the field and find the hole (except the center’s ahole)........and all of this usually occurring around the LOS. With this approach we have been forced to pass the ball at the end of the game to try to catch up. And as you know, too many forced passes=a strong recipe for interceptions. This run at all cost “disease” has almost destroyed this team. What is the cure?.....................Im’ not sure that at this point anyone has the definitive answer. But what I do know is that the doctor cannot continue to feed a medicine to a dying patient....................a medicine that doesn’t work.

Blazing Arrow
09-20-2008, 11:27 AM
Albert Einstein once said that the definition of insanity was repeating the same behavior over and over while expecting different results. Well, run, run, run has unfortunately been what the Texans in the past have made their resounding theme. It has consistently resulted in 4 plays of run-run-pass-punt. The run mentality has more so than not led to the RB having his nose stuffed up our center’s butt, with no time to “visualize” the field and find the hole (except the center’s ahole)........and all of this usually occurring around the LOS. With this approach we have been forced to pass the ball at the end of the game to try to catch up. And as you know, too many forced passes=a strong recipe for interceptions. This run at all cost “disease” has almost destroyed this team. What is the cure?.....................Im’ not sure that at this point anyone has the definitive answer. But what I do know is that the doctor cannot continue to feed a medicine to a dying patient....................a medicine that doesn’t work.

The answer is pretty easy. You need a quality RB who can make space when there is none. Your current O does not run a West Coast enough style to make Ds respect your pass enough to cover for it. Carr has put this stigma on your team that if you put enough pressure on the QB you will get to him, and with the added pressure you get a RB who has to make the first guy miss 9 out of 10 times even before starting down field.

Guys like Dayne, Green, Brown ... you are never going to compete. Almost every playoff team has a solid RB. For some it is all they have.

Joe Texan
09-20-2008, 12:00 PM
I am in Tennessee and will bring the Texans to Victory.

CloakNNNdagger
09-20-2008, 12:08 PM
The answer is pretty easy. You need a quality RB who can make space when there is none. Your current O does not run a West Coast enough style to make Ds respect your pass enough to cover for it. Carr has put this stigma on your team that if you put enough pressure on the QB you will get to him, and with the added pressure you get a RB who has to make the first guy miss 9 out of 10 times even before starting down field.

Guys like Dayne, Green, Brown ... you are never going to compete. Almost every playoff team has a solid RB. For some it is all they have.

I don't remember who said this, though it goes something like this: a wise person does at once, what a fool does at last. Both do the same thing; only at different times. The Texans, at least to this point in time, have been playing the hapless fool.

Honoring Earl 34
09-20-2008, 12:08 PM
I am in Tennessee and will bring the Texans to Victory.

I have an Albert Haynesworth voodoo doll that I'm about to run over with my lawnmower .

spurstexanstros
09-20-2008, 01:47 PM
Not here to throw smack at you dude. But from what I have seen with in this thread you did your part of throwing around petty insults. If your going to do it at least own up to it.

I do believe it was Blazing Arrow that turned this thread on it's head anyway. He was good up until post #41. Then it was like the light went on, or was it off, upstairs.

Anyway, hopefully the Texans pull this one out. Although I have a feeling the D is going to continue getting schooled until DC Smith can afford to buy a clue or 10.

Exactly, I dont recall calling anyone white trash either. Titans fans are good at lobbing bombs and then overreacting when someone takes offense to it. As i have said my company line of smack is gonna be.


TheTitans organization is not as good as the Texans.
Some of the Titans lack moral turpitude.
Titans fans make my stomach feel queasy.
Texans rule Titans drool etc etc.....

Im sure that will offend someone here.

spurstexanstros
09-20-2008, 01:55 PM
Anyways can we freaking play the game already....

I want to hear from those affected by Ike.... What does this game mean to you on the overall scheme of things?

GP
09-20-2008, 02:35 PM
Albert Einstein once said that the definition of insanity was repeating the same behavior over and over while expecting different results. Well, run, run, run has unfortunately been what the Texans in the past have made their resounding theme. It has consistently resulted in 4 plays of run-run-pass-punt. The run mentality has more so than not led to the RB having his nose stuffed up our center’s butt, with no time to “visualize” the field and find the hole (except the center’s ahole)........and all of this usually occurring around the LOS. With this approach we have been forced to pass the ball at the end of the game to try to catch up. And as you know, too many forced passes=a strong recipe for interceptions. This run at all cost “disease” has almost destroyed this team. What is the cure?.....................Im’ not sure that at this point anyone has the definitive answer. But what I do know is that the doctor cannot continue to feed a medicine to a dying patient....................a medicine that doesn’t work.

I can't bold portions of this post because it is ALL so important, and true.

Last season, Kubiak ended the year by saying (and I try to quote it as well as I can)..."You know, I think we just might be a good enough passing team to play as a passing team that sets up the run..."

And then he was quoted as saying that he might start carrying THREE QBs on the active roster, (again, trying to quote it as accurately as I can): "I don't want to go through that again...I know that we usually carry 2, but I am starting to think seriously about carrying a third QB..."

So here we have Kubiak, out-and-out letting people know that he thinks we have a pretty good passing game, that it might be good enough to pas a lot and let the run be a supplement. He even says he thinks he needs to carry an extra QB, which DUH! wouldn't be too bad of an idea.

Yet, here we are: Trying to act like Gibbs has installed this beautiful running attack that is going to start clicking immediately.

We need to get AJ, Walter, Davis, Anderson, and Jones on the field at the same time, or at least a 4-WR set and Daniels at TE, and pas, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass until we are stopped. This loosens the LBs up and they are a bit split between looking for the slants and crossing routes OR looking for the run out of the backfield that might be coming at some point.

We do NOT have a running game that can open up the pass. And the quicker Kubiak absorbs it (FULLY) the better.

spurstexanstros
09-20-2008, 02:38 PM
I've told him I don't want that white trash stuff but he doesn't listen too well....don't think our community really cares for the racist stuff or the mean spirited generalizations.

On the second point...this website participates in the fan2fan alliance (http://www.f2fa.com/) and we encourage rival fans to come over and participate.

Who is being racist?

Runner
09-20-2008, 02:39 PM
Some of the Titans lack moral turpitude.


Im sure that will offend someone here.

I know how hard you are trying to offend people while acting innocent of such devious design, so let me give you some help:

Saying someone lacks moral turpitude isn't an insult.

tur·pi·tude [tur-pi-tood, -tyood]
–noun
1.
vile, shameful, or base character; depravity.
2.
a vile or depraved act.

www.dictionary.com - Try it sometime.

spurstexanstros
09-20-2008, 02:43 PM
I know how hard you are trying to offend people while acting innocent of such devious design, so let me give you some help:

Saying someone lacks moral turpitude isn't an insult.

tur·pi·tude [tur-pi-tood, -tyood]
–noun
1.
vile, shameful, or base character; depravity.
2.
a vile or depraved act.

www.dictionary.com - Try it sometime.

no I am not trying to offend anyone, but it feels like you can only say canned stuff like that in order not to offend anyone. It seems like we have to bend over and just let opposing fans run over us.

Runner
09-20-2008, 02:51 PM
You seem to be as offended as anyone. I think you're also the one that said some trash talk is OK when I tried to cut it off a couple of days ago.

If you want to talk it, man up and take it too and quit whining about how sensitive everyone else is.

spurstexanstros
09-20-2008, 02:58 PM
You seem to be as offended as anyone. I think you're also the one that said some trash talk is OK when I tried to cut it off a couple of days ago.

If you want to talk it, man up and take it too and quit whining about how sensitive everyone else is.

Trust me I am not... I am to the point ... I just want the game to be over with. I have never said I was offended. I just question why come here to insult our team?

spurstexanstros
09-20-2008, 03:03 PM
We need to get AJ, Walter, Davis, Anderson, and Jones on the field at the same time, or at least a 4-WR set and Daniels at TE, and pas, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass until we are stopped. This loosens the LBs up and they are a bit split between looking for the slants and crossing routes OR looking for the run out of the backfield that might be coming at some point.

We do NOT have a running game that can open up the pass. And the quicker Kubiak absorbs it (FULLY) the better.

Owen Daniels was one of the bright spots from Pitt, he made some huge plays. If Schaub can use him as his safety , maybe he wont throw bad pics.

AMMOTITAN
09-20-2008, 05:47 PM
Well Good luck Texan fans. I hope for a good game, where there are no serious injuries on either side.............and I hope the titans look like the team us titans fans think they are.