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DiehardChris
09-12-2008, 01:07 PM
Not that it will do much good, but it's worth a shot:

EMAIL ESPN w/ COMPLAINTS (http://espn.go.com/sitetools/s/contact/espntv.html)

This is such BS. ESPN is taking a game away from fans that they would have had on Sunday - IF A HURRICANE hadn't come through to blast Houston!

I mean - literally - ESPN is victimizing Texans fans outside of primary and secondary markets - because of a natural disaster! They should at the VERY LEAST relax their exclusive hold over MNF this one time (or whenever a natural disaster is involved) so that Sunday Ticket can show the game allowing it to be shown at LEAST in sports bars in TX who have Sunday Ticket. Really, what's it going to hurt? People who were going to watch the Cowboys are going to watch the Cowboys anyway.

We're not talking about millions and millions of viewers here - we're talking about fans scattered in Austin, the RGV, etc. It's not like we're asking them for the world.

Errant Hothy
09-12-2008, 01:09 PM
Ok I'm confussed. I thought ESPN2 was broadcasting the game on Monday night...is that not the case? Or is the ESPN2 broadcast just in the primary/secondary markets?

Where is ESPN8 "the ocho!" when you need them?

jaayteetx
09-12-2008, 01:12 PM
Not that it will do much good, but it's worth a shot:

EMAIL ESPN w/ COMPLAINTS (http://espn.go.com/sitetools/s/contact/espntv.html)

This is such BS. ESPN is taking a game away from fans that they would have had on Sunday - IF A HURRICANE hadn't come through to blast Houston!

I mean - literally - ESPN is victimizing Texans fans outside of primary and secondary markets - because of a natural disaster! They should at the VERY LEAST relax their exclusive hold over MNF this one time (or whenever a natural disaster is involved) so that Sunday Ticket can show the game allowing it to be shown at LEAST in sports bars in TX who have Sunday Ticket. Really, what's it going to hurt? People who were going to watch the Cowboys are going to watch the Cowboys anyway.

We're not talking about millions and millions of viewers here - we're talking about fans scattered in Austin, the RGV, etc. It's not like we're asking them for the world.

I'm confused. I thought ESPN2 would be televising the game. Are they not making it available to certain areas? I was going to the game but with this hurricane and all, I figured I would just stay here in New Mexico and watch it on ESPN2. If it ain't available, I just may have to find my way to H-town somehow.

DiehardChris
09-12-2008, 01:16 PM
NO - as stated in many places - ESPN2 is not showing the game. That was a mistake made by the Texans when they made a press release.

They made that statement assuming that ESPN2 would send out their announce team and make it an ESPN2 MNF game. That is NOT the case.

DiehardChris
09-12-2008, 01:19 PM
Check out post #65 (and this guy works for the Texans)

http://boards.houstontexans.com/showthread.php?t=8344&page=7

Errant Hothy
09-12-2008, 01:22 PM
Is it just ESPN's decision or is the NFL offices involved as well?

Because of the NFL ain't known for changing it's mind too often.

valleytexfan
09-12-2008, 01:25 PM
Complaint sent! It only makes sense for ESPN! Maybe that's the problem.

jaayteetx
09-12-2008, 01:26 PM
this is f-ing BS! I thought the same thing when the dolphins game got moved because of a hurricane a few years back. I purchased the Sunday ticket to watch TEXANS games and just because some Hurricane moves to game from SUNDAY to MONDAY I don't get to watch it? Chicken spit! This needs to be addressed and fixed!

jaayteetx
09-12-2008, 01:27 PM
Looks like I'll be trying to get a flight out to Houston either Sunday/Monday now. Ike, be gentle!!!!

DiehardChris
09-12-2008, 01:33 PM
Is it just ESPN's decision or is the NFL offices involved as well?

Because of the NFL ain't known for changing it's mind too often.

It's on both ESPN and NFL:

ESPN
They have exclusive rights to Monday night games, regardless of circumstances. They could relax those rights so that Sunday Ticket buyers can see the game - which would also allow sports bars to show the games in the non-primary/secondary markets.

NFL
They are in charge of which markets are secondary and primary. They could allow markets like Austin and other non-primary/secondary to show the game on the local CBS affiliates - but thus far they have not allowed it. I know that our CBS guy in Austin has already lobbied them, and they turned him down.

Errant Hothy
09-12-2008, 01:34 PM
It's on both ESPN and NFL:

ESPN
They have exclusive rights to Monday night games, regardless of circumstances. They could relax those rights so that Sunday Ticket buyers can see the game - which would also allow sports bars to show the games in the non-primary/secondary markets.

NFL
They are in charge of which markets are secondary and primary. They could allow markets like Austin and other non-primary/secondary to show the game on the local CBS affiliates - but thus far they have not allowed it. I know that our CBS guy in Austin has already lobbied them, and they turned him down.

Then I think we are all screwed, as the NFL will more then likely not change it's mind (because they never do).

TheIronDuke
09-12-2008, 01:36 PM
I would if I thought that I would have electricity to watch the game. I really don't think the game will be played Monday night in Houston.

Mailman
09-12-2008, 01:40 PM
Maybe I should take a road trip to Bryan.

Showtime100
09-12-2008, 01:43 PM
Sent. I just spit in the ocean and the sea level didn't rise. But I will do everything I can as always. Thanks for providing the link Chris.

DiehardChris
09-12-2008, 01:53 PM
Maybe I should take a road trip to Bryan.

You know, I thought about doing that - but I was afraid the city would be full of people fleeing the storm, so there would be no motel rooms available.
...and you know seeing it at a sports bar in Bryan wouldn't work. All the TVs will be tuned to the Cowboys game.

TexanBorn51
09-12-2008, 01:53 PM
I sent the following email to ESPN, Houstontexans.com, DirecTV, CBS, and nfl.com(which does not relate to the NFL itself)

"As of 1:29pm today I realized that being one of many Texan fans and not only in San Antonio and in parts of Texas that we will not be able to watch the Texan game because of paid Sunday Ticket Directv, ESPN2, and CBSin most parts of Texas. Also because of this no sports bars either because they can't get it.Then I just found out from Houston Sports Texan radio that we can't even listen to it on live stream. I would not only be glad to pay for it but also add a humanitarian contribution to the hurricane efforts too.
Houston is still in Texas, right...???"
Sincerely
Bob E. McClain
TexanBorn51 (houstontexans.com and texanstalk.com forum member)

Errant Hothy
09-12-2008, 01:55 PM
Never mind, the storm is jacking my brain.

Mailman
09-12-2008, 01:57 PM
You know, I thought about doing that - but I was afraid the city would be full of people fleeing the storm, so there would be no motel rooms available.
...and you know seeing it at a sports bar in Bryan wouldn't work. All the TVs will be tuned to the Cowboys game.

The storm will have passed by then. If I can find a power plug for my laptop, I should be able to pick up the game with my HD antenna and TV tuner card.

jaayteetx
09-12-2008, 02:02 PM
I would if I thought that I would have electricity to watch the game. I really don't think the game will be played Monday night in Houston.

Ya, I'm in agreement on this as well but I went ahead and changed my flight just in case. You know, this might impact the Dallas/Philly game as well. Has anybody thought of that?

GP
09-12-2008, 02:18 PM
IMO, ESPN doesn't want to pay for the cost of staffing the Texans' game.

LOL. As much as we stink right now, I wouldn't either.

Everyone gripes that "we get no love," and you know what? That's how it works. If we want love, we got to be a good team. And we're not worth the extra effort for ESPN to send an entire crew down here for game # 2 of the season.

Won't there be a local radio station streaming the audio, as usual, or was that a pre-season thang?

DiehardChris
09-12-2008, 02:26 PM
IMO, ESPN doesn't want to pay for the cost of staffing the Texans' game.

LOL. As much as we stink right now, I wouldn't either.

Everyone gripes that "we get no love," and you know what? That's how it works. If we want love, we got to be a good team. And we're not worth the extra effort for ESPN to send an entire crew down here for game # 2 of the season.

Won't there be a local radio station streaming the audio, as usual, or was that a pre-season thang?

That's not at all what I'm saying.

I can't sit here and say they should broadcast the game.

The complaint here is that they relax their exclusivity right and allow the Sunday Ticket subscribers to see the game in their homes, which would also allow sports bars who have the ticket to show the game as well.

This is a totally different issue than anyone being pissed that ESPN isn't going to staff and shoot the game.

powerfuldragon
09-12-2008, 02:30 PM
i sent espn a complaint a month or two ago regarding the fact that they gypped us with the NFL Yearbook program, i got this in my inbox today:
(copied and pasted)

Thank you for contacting ESPN.

Due to the importance of allowing the Houston area to focus on its recovery from the expected arrival of Hurricane Ike on Friday, the Houston Texans' home game Sunday against the Baltimore Ravens has been re-scheduled for Monday night at Reliant Stadium at 7:30 PM Houston time (8:30 PM ET).

The game originally was scheduled to be played on Sunday, September 14 at 3:15 PM Houston Time (4:15 PM ET).


The Texans-Ravens Monday night game will be televised on local CBS stations in the primary and secondary markets of the Texans (Houston, Beaumont-Port Arthur, and Bryan, Texas) and the Ravens (Baltimore; Washington, DC; Salisbury, MD; and Harrisburg, PA).

ESPN has exclusive primetime rights for Monday Night Football. We aplogize for any inconvience this may have caused to DIRECTV subscribers.

sincerely,
ESPN Viewer Response Team

Malloy
09-12-2008, 02:38 PM
It looks as if I'll be able to watch the game via my NFL Gamepass thingie (foreigner). It's fairly patethic that I'll be able to (I hope so!) watch the game online live, yet people in the state of Texas arnt. Shame on you ESPN...

If anyone of you guys are in Copenhagen Monday, let me know :)

TexanBorn51
09-12-2008, 02:48 PM
IMO, ESPN doesn't want to pay for the cost of staffing the Texans' game.

LOL. As much as we stink right now, I wouldn't either.

Everyone gripes that "we get no love," and you know what? That's how it works. If we want love, we got to be a good team. And we're not worth the extra effort for ESPN to send an entire crew down here for game # 2 of the season.

Won't there be a local radio station streaming the audio, as usual, or was that a pre-season thang?
That's partly right. But here in San Antonio 13 Texans games were all to be scheduled on CBS Sunday just like last week and was this sunday too. CBS will air it monday but only in selected markets which the NFL determine I believe. I'm looking into radio live but I do know that Texans Houston Sports Radio 610 will not stream live on net they are allowed four games this season

rockabilly
09-12-2008, 02:49 PM
I wonder if there is a way to discuise an IP as coming from the UK, enabling me to be able to watch the game on my PC with the gamepass.

powerfuldragon
09-12-2008, 02:51 PM
I wonder if there is a way to discuise an IP as coming from the UK, enabling me to be able to watch the game on my PC with the gamepass.
there are ways.

J-Russ
09-12-2008, 02:52 PM
Game is going to be shown on NFLN and CBS.

If you don't have NFLN then oh well.

DiehardChris
09-12-2008, 02:55 PM
Game is going to be shown on NFLN and CBS.

If you don't have NFLN then oh well.

We're talking about the non-primary and secondary Texans markets.

TexanBorn51
09-12-2008, 02:57 PM
Game is going to be shown on NFLN and CBS.

If you don't have NFLN then oh well.
Post a link about NFLN showing it monday night.

J-Russ
09-12-2008, 02:58 PM
We're talking about the non-primary and secondary Texans markets.
I'm just putting it out there since I haven't seen it post around.

But since it's not being shown on ESPN/2, then does the exclusive right still applies for the NFLN? For the sunday tickets viewers.

grinch1134
09-12-2008, 03:00 PM
Email sent. I took the angle as there will be a good deal of evacuees still will not be back in Houston/Galveston. I asked them to suspend their rights for the day in respect of those viewers away from their homes.

GP
09-12-2008, 03:02 PM
That's not at all what I'm saying.

I can't sit here and say they should broadcast the game.

The complaint here is that they relax their exclusivity right and allow the Sunday Ticket subscribers to see the game in their homes, which would also allow sports bars who have the ticket to show the game as well.

This is a totally different issue than anyone being pissed that ESPN isn't going to staff and shoot the game.

I am responding to those who compare this to the Saints & Hurricane Katrina, acting as if there is a double-standard: Houston will be right in the middle of monsoon rains and higher-than-normal winds...it makes no sense for ESPN to say "Well, we gotta' get down there and do it...Texans fans are expecting it from us..."

My comments were written to temper the feelings of those who say that we are getting shafted somehow by ESPN. It's F-R-I-D-A-Y and ESPN is expected to just race a team down there and set up shop? In a hurricane environment? I'm not saying. I'm just saying...

awtysst
09-12-2008, 03:07 PM
My comments were written to temper the feelings of those who say that we are getting shafted somehow by ESPN. It's F-R-I-D-A-Y and ESPN is expected to just race a team down there and set up shop? In a hurricane environment? I'm not saying. I'm just saying...

I think based on previous ESPN actions there is a perceived heirarchy in terms of the teams. Some have questioned if this would have been ESPN's response of the Cowboys were the ones that were having weather problems. Would ESPN race down here for the Cowboys and not the Texans? Thats the question people are wondering.

Personally, i think they would.

GP
09-12-2008, 03:09 PM
I'm just putting it out there since I haven't seen it post around.

But since it's not being shown on ESPN/2, then does the exclusive right still applies for the NFLN? For the sunday tickets viewers.

You know how NFLN replays the best games during the week? I don't even recall a MNF game being re-aired on NFLN replay(s)...which lends a lot of credibility to Diehard Chris' posts.

MNF just got through producing two MNF games simultaneously...I doubt they desire to go through that THIS week. In horrible weather.

This is like that old saying, "If a tree falls in the woods..."

Except it should be "If an NFL team plays a game, but nobody watches it, was it ever really played?"

LOL. :splits:

GP
09-12-2008, 03:14 PM
I think based on previous ESPN actions there is a perceived heirarchy in terms of the teams. Some have questioned if this would have been ESPN's response of the Cowboys were the ones that were having weather problems. Would ESPN race down here for the Cowboys and not the Texans? Thats the question people are wondering.

Personally, i think they would.

I just think the overall logistics, and financial ramifications, for ESPN is what is driving this decision. And then there's legitimate concern for their employees.

I don't "like" ESPN any more than the next guy, but I can't sit here and convince myself that the powers-that-be at ESPN are bwahaha-bwahaha'ing over how the Texans fans are getting screwed.

We're all upset. But the brakes need to be applied a little bit, IMO.

I don't get to see my team this week. But I am safe, and there'll be another game next week. No problemo.

rockabilly
09-12-2008, 03:16 PM
I just think the overall logistics, and financial ramifications, for ESPN is what is driving this decision. And then there's legitimate concern for their employees.

I don't "like" ESPN any more than the next guy, but I can't sit here and convince myself that the powers-that-be at ESPN are bwahaha-bwahaha'ing over how the Texans fans are getting screwed.

We're all upset. But the brakes need to be applied a little bit, IMO.

I don't get to see my team this week. But I am safe, and there'll be another game next week. No problemo.

They don't have to produce the game. They can suck it up for the situation ad relax their exclusivity of monday primetime to let Sunday Ticket show the game.

GP
09-12-2008, 03:18 PM
They don't have to produce the game. They can suck it up for the situation ad relax their exclusivity of monday primetime to let Sunday Ticket show the game.

This would work ONLY if ESPN could say "You have to run the advertisers who are also airing on the Cowboys-Eagles game."

This is all about the $. Don't forget that.

DiehardChris
09-12-2008, 03:23 PM
They don't have to produce the game. They can suck it up for the situation ad relax their exclusivity of monday primetime to let Sunday Ticket show the game.

Bingo. The "should they or shouldn't they broadcast it with an ESPN crew" is a totally different issue for another thread.

It would make no sense for ESPN to send a crew to shoot the game.

1 - they don't just show up at gametime. They need tons of prep and setup time, facilities, hotels, accommodations, etc. There isn't enough time.

2 - it's the Texans - which GP was getting at. There aren't enough potential viewers to justify the cost of shooting and bcasting TWO games simultaneously. If it was a west coast game or an east coast game - it would make a lot more financial sense for them to shoot it... it's not a favoritism thing - it's a business thing.

BUT - there's NO REASON they shouldn't relax the exclusivity issue for DirecTV Sunday Ticket. THAT is flat-out greed.

hollywood_texan
09-12-2008, 03:41 PM
Probably blaming this on the NFL may not be appropriate because the broadcasting contracts may not give them the authority to make these type of decisions.

It does seem ridiculous that this game is not broadcasted nationally if a station wants to carry it.

I live in LA and listen to the game online using NFL Field Pass. I prefer listenting to Vandemeer and Ware than watching it at a sports bar. Then I get to listen to the ranting online on from 610 after the game.

DiehardChris
09-12-2008, 03:45 PM
Probably blaming this on the NFL may not be appropriate because the broadcasting contracts may not give them the authority to make these type of decisions.

That was my initial thought too - but come to find out - the NFL has relaxed the constrictions created by those contracts TO BENEFIT THE COWBOYS, by allowing BOTH games to be shown in the Houston area.

The Texans have a contract with the NFL stating NO OTHER NFL GAMES can be shown at the same time as Texans game in Houston... the NFL stepped in - benefiting ONLY the Dallas Cowboys organization - and allowed both games to be shown.

But Austin gets the middle finger. They could step in and allow CBS to show the game Monday night, but so far have not.

DiehardChris
09-12-2008, 03:55 PM
Alright, good job everyone who emailed!

Our emails and NFL league pressure worked... at least, we'll say our emails made a difference, right?

Check the other thread I started - ESPN relaxed their exclusivity policy to allow DirecTV to pick it up.

BigBull17
09-12-2008, 04:36 PM
IMO, ESPN doesn't want to pay for the cost of staffing the Texans' game.

LOL. As much as we stink right now, I wouldn't either.

Everyone gripes that "we get no love," and you know what? That's how it works. If we want love, we got to be a good team. And we're not worth the extra effort for ESPN to send an entire crew down here for game # 2 of the season.

Won't there be a local radio station streaming the audio, as usual, or was that a pre-season thang?

Except Oakland gets love and all they do is get their teeth kicked down their damn throats.

DiehardChris
09-12-2008, 04:37 PM
Except Oakland gets love and all they do is get their teeth kicked down their damn throats.


LOLOLOLOL so, so true

awtysst
09-12-2008, 05:25 PM
Alright, good job everyone who emailed!

Our emails and NFL league pressure worked... at least, we'll say our emails made a difference, right?

Check the other thread I started - ESPN relaxed their exclusivity policy to allow DirecTV to pick it up.

Yeah I sent a few emails from Denver too!