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badboy
09-04-2008, 01:38 PM
Set scenario of where Texans will be on field and what is your call for first play. Mine would be fake a hand off to Slaton between LT & LG, Schaub bootlegs to right and fakes a reverse to Jacoby Jones and then he delivers a pass to Walters as AJ and Davis pull DBs deep. Ok, tear it apart.

I want to see a very aggressive plan of attack against Steelers. I do not think we can win by "hoping to hang on to ball" and grind it out. We need quick surgical strikes through the air and work the TEs Breuner and OD with some plays to slot. I also believe our kicker will be a huge factor.

powerfuldragon
09-04-2008, 01:39 PM
1st call? 1st play?

kickoff/return. i win.

Ole Miss Texan
09-04-2008, 01:41 PM
1st offensive play: Bootleg, Schaub completes pass to Kevin Walter for a 1st down.

Ole Miss Texan
09-04-2008, 01:42 PM
1st call? 1st play?

kickoff/return. i win.

I hope Shanahan is smarter than to call that on our first offensive play. :)

Seņor Stan
09-04-2008, 01:42 PM
1st call? 1st play?

kickoff/return. i win.

1st call?


Heads.

powerfuldragon
09-04-2008, 01:44 PM
I hope Shanahan is smarter than to call that on our first offensive play. :)
yeah, i checked the thread title.....





first offensive play will be a hybrid play action to the FB/fleaflicker. i called it now.

Brando
09-04-2008, 01:46 PM
Screen pass or handoff to Ahman Green.

Specnatz
09-04-2008, 01:47 PM
run to the left side of the line for 7 yards and Green is not injured.

hobie
09-04-2008, 01:48 PM
46 slant, option right, on 3....

swtbound07
09-04-2008, 02:00 PM
first offensive play

Schaub hands off to steve slaton, stretch left, gain of 5 yards.

stiff
09-04-2008, 02:02 PM
Andre Davis End Around
or
WR Screen to AJ

El Tejano
09-04-2008, 02:05 PM
1st offensive play: Bootleg, Schaub completes pass to Kevin Walter for a 1st down.

You beat me to it.

ObsiWan
09-04-2008, 02:27 PM
7 yd out to O.D. He eludes the first defender and gains 46 yds because Pittsburgh blitzed their safeties.
Chris Taylor earned half his game check when he picked up Polomalu on the blitz.

Polo
09-04-2008, 02:31 PM
Play action, Completion to Walter.

Cjeremy635
09-04-2008, 02:33 PM
I think it's a pass to Andre Johnson on a post pattern that picks up about 14 yards. It's either that or a Hail Mary......my dream wasn't fully vivid to me this morning.

HOU-TEX
09-04-2008, 02:37 PM
I decided to take a little break and go back and check each game. Each play listed is per game. 1-16

1. Pass short to AJ for 5 yds

2. Pass short to Leach for no gain

3. Pass short to Green for 2 yds

4. Dayne up the gut for 2 yds

5. Deep pass to Walter incomplete

6. Schaub scrambles for 6 yds

7. Pass short to Jones for a loss of 1

8. Pass short to Jones for 5 yds

9. Rosenfels scramble for 14 yds

10. Pass short to Leach for 2 yds

11. Schaub around end for 7 yds

12. Dayne runs for 5 yds

13. Pass short to AJ for 7yds

14. Pass short to Walker for 2 yds

15. Pass short to AJ for 18 yds

16. Pass short to AJ for 17 yds

Sooo....I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it'll be a short pass. I suppose a short pass to AJ for 5 yds.

Cjeremy635
09-04-2008, 02:40 PM
I decided to take a little break and go back and check each game. Each play listed is per game. 1-16

1. Pass short to AJ for 5 yds

2. Pass short to Leach for no gain

3. Pass short to Green for 2 yds

4. Dayne up the gut for 2 yds

5. Deep pass to Walter incomplete

6. Schaub scrambles for 6 yds

7. Pass short to Jones for a loss of 1

8. Pass short to Jones for 5 yds

9. Rosenfels scramble for 14 yds

10. Pass short to Leach for 2 yds

11. Schaub around end for 7 yds

12. Dayne runs for 5 yds

13. Pass short to AJ for 7yds

14. Pass short to Walker for 2 yds

15. Pass short to AJ for 18 yds

16. Pass short to AJ for 17 yds

Sooo....I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it'll be a short pass. I suppose a short pass to AJ for 5 yds.


Nice work Hou-Tex, rep your way. On a side note, that's a little disturbing that we aren't more aggressive on the first play of the game to set the tempo. We seem pretty predictable by going off of those results.

barrett
09-04-2008, 02:45 PM
i don't care about predictable. i care about 2nd and 5 or 2nd and 3. that looks good to me.

Brando
09-04-2008, 02:49 PM
I decided to take a little break and go back and check each game. Each play listed is per game. 1-16

1. Pass short to AJ for 5 yds

2. Pass short to Leach for no gain

3. Pass short to Green for 2 yds

4. Dayne up the gut for 2 yds

5. Deep pass to Walter incomplete

6. Schaub scrambles for 6 yds

7. Pass short to Jones for a loss of 1

8. Pass short to Jones for 5 yds

9. Rosenfels scramble for 14 yds

10. Pass short to Leach for 2 yds

11. Schaub around end for 7 yds

12. Dayne runs for 5 yds

13. Pass short to AJ for 7yds

14. Pass short to Walker for 2 yds

15. Pass short to AJ for 18 yds

16. Pass short to AJ for 17 yds

Sooo....I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it'll be a short pass. I suppose a short pass to AJ for 5 yds.

Nice work! Must spread rep before....yada yada yada.

Polo
09-04-2008, 02:51 PM
So....

Slaton is starting...?

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
09-04-2008, 02:52 PM
80 yard bomb off a flea flicker to AJ. :texflag:

Malloy
09-04-2008, 02:59 PM
Bootleg, pass to Owen Daniels.

HOU-TEX
09-04-2008, 02:59 PM
So....

Slaton is starting...?

Polo, this is from Kubiak......FWIW. It sounds as if Green will start with Slaton being the first coming off the bench. Sounds ok to me. :cool:

(on if RB Ahman Green will start) “I don’t see any reason why he won’t. He looked good in practice, today. I plan on playing them all, to be honest with you. I could say right down the middle, but it usually doesn’t end up that way. I plan on all of them playing. We’ll be smart. He’s not going to be ready to go in there and carry the ball an abundant amount of times but he’s ready to play.”

(on what he thinks of RB Steve Slaton over all) “Eventually this kid has a chance to be a heck of a player. How quick he gets to that point this year may have a lot to do with how far we go. But we’re going to count on him. He’ll get a bulk of work along with (RB) Ahman (Green) right now. We’ll see where he’s at but this football team is counting on him growing up pretty quick.”

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=4592

Texan_Bill
09-04-2008, 03:07 PM
Nice work Hou-Tex, rep your way. On a side note, that's a little disturbing that we aren't more aggressive on the first play of the game to set the tempo. We seem pretty predictable by going off of those results.

We tried that once... Fortunately it resulted in a 38 yard pass interception penalty on their D... Unfortunately that was David Carr to Corey Bradford v. Dallas September 8, 2002...

Vinny
09-04-2008, 03:08 PM
I want to see us run the ball...we have come out passing in our exibition games and haven't really established any sort of early running game.

Texan_Bill
09-04-2008, 03:10 PM
I want to see us run the ball...we have come out passing in our exibition games and haven't really established any sort of early running game.

But if we ran the ball on the first play of the game, Green would immediately go on IR. :mcnugget:

Cjeremy635
09-04-2008, 03:11 PM
I want to see us run the ball...we have come out passing in our exibition games and haven't really established any sort of early running game.

I agree with that assesment. It's not flashy, but it will help establish what we want to do for that game. I really don't care what we do, as long as it's successful and not a turn over on the first play.

Cjeremy635
09-04-2008, 03:13 PM
But if we ran the ball on the first play of the game, Green would immediately go on IR. :mcnugget:

Saves us money and makes way for the new guys.... Even if he doesn't go down on the "1st play", I feel all we are doing is post poning the inevitable. The guy will end up unable to play for a significant amount of time this year, jusy my gut feeling.

drewmar74
09-04-2008, 03:15 PM
We come out in a single back set. Weakside toss to Green. Harrison penetrates so quickly that he's able to disrupt the toss. Ball hits the ground and is scooped up by Polomalu and returned for a TD.

Green hurts his knee while falling down.

Gibbs is so furious that his head explodes and disappears into a fine red mist.

badboy
09-04-2008, 03:16 PM
I think it's a pass to Andre Johnson on a post pattern that picks up about 14 yards. It's either that or a Hail Mary......my dream wasn't fully vivid to me this morning.At least no one on field or watching will expect a pass to Andre Johnson.:smiliedance:

Brandon420tx
09-04-2008, 03:17 PM
.... Sack :francis::tomato:

Cjeremy635
09-04-2008, 03:18 PM
We come out in a single back set. Weakside toss to Green. Harrison penetrates so quickly that he's able to disrupt the toss. Ball hits the ground and is scooped up by Polomalu and returned for a TD.

Green hurts his knee while falling down.

Gibbs is so furious that his head explodes and disappears into a fine red mist.

Good thing I'm going to record it on my DVR while I watch it. I'm gonna have to watch that one over & over & over again. I'll burn all of you guys copies as well. :cool:

HOU-TEX
09-04-2008, 03:21 PM
I want to see us run the ball...we have come out passing in our exibition games and haven't really established any sort of early running game.

I agree with establishing the running game early. I reckon we Old Schooler's always like to see the running game going early and often.

BUT, that's why I went back to take a gander at last season's plays. To me, it has become Kubiaks M.O. to open with the passing game. Heck, there were a few games last season I was wondering when I was going to see the run.

Seņor Stan
09-04-2008, 03:24 PM
I want to see us run the ball...we have come out passing in our exibition games and haven't really established any sort of early running game.

That's the vibe I get listening to the video on HT.com.

I hear a the players talking about keeping "on schedule."

Winston said it in his quotes

I think the big thing with our receivers and our passing attack is we have to stay on track, on schedule. One or two yard runs in this game are going to be fine. We can’t expect that we’re going to go in there and gash them for seven or eight yards at a time. We have to go in there and stay on schedule, keep those third downs to third and five or less. I think we’ll be fine because with our receivers and the way we go, we can convert a lot of those. Those are high percentage plays for us. Staying out of those long down situations are also going to keep us away from the crazy blitzes that they’ll throw. So, a lot of it is just going to be staying on schedule, running the ball effectively, and getting in there and staying tough and hopefully late in the game we can break the big one.”



and later Schaub said close to the same thing.

[Being able to execute our game plan and not try to outthink ourselves and be fundamentally sound with the football and what we are trying to do. And being on schedule, you know, you don’t want to get behind the eight ball on third down too often. You want to stay at third and six or less and you can do a lot of different things

I take this as the Texans really trying to establish the run early and often, and not get into 3rd and longs.


My prediction...

Ahman Green to the left side for 4 yards.

Texan_Bill
09-04-2008, 03:25 PM
Saves us money and makes way for the new guys.... Even if he doesn't go down on the "1st play", I feel all we are doing is post poning the inevitable. The guy will end up unable to play for a significant amount of time this year, jusy my gut feeling.

You're always the 'optimist'!! ;)

badboy
09-04-2008, 03:33 PM
i don't care about predictable. i care about 2nd and 5 or 2nd and 3. that looks good to me.Sorry to disagree, but that is what Steeler are hoping that we try to "grind it out" with them. Don't see that working this year. Just my two cents. Think coach K is on your side.

badboy
09-04-2008, 03:37 PM
Saves us money and makes way for the new guys.... Even if he doesn't go down on the "1st play", I feel all we are doing is post poning the inevitable. The guy will end up unable to play for a significant amount of time this year, jusy my gut feeling.Is post poning anything like corn pone a type of corn bread that ihave read about in western books? Sorry, I am just really hungry.

texanfreak
09-04-2008, 03:49 PM
saves us money and makes way for the new guys.... Even if he doesn't go down on the "1st play", i feel all we are doing is post poning the inevitable. The guy will end up unable to play for a significant amount of time this year, jusy my gut feeling.

i hate your gut.

Scooter
09-04-2008, 03:55 PM
slant right to AJ for 6 yards.

Hardcore Texan
09-04-2008, 03:55 PM
Play action, inside slant pass to AJ, 17 yard gain.

The Pencil Neck
09-04-2008, 04:02 PM
But if we ran the ball on the first play of the game, Green would immediately go on IR. :mcnugget:

When we tried PASSING on the first play of the game, Green went down without being touched and missed the next three games.

So...

Really...

Does it matter?

Hervoyel
09-04-2008, 04:42 PM
But if we ran the ball on the first play of the game, Green would immediately go on IR. :mcnugget:

Green will not get hurt this year. His money is tied to his playing every week. He's going to run "softer" than anybody you've ever seen and average 2 yards a carry but he's not going to get hurt. No way he's going to risk those $200,000 bonuses just to gain the extra 3 yards we need for the first down.

gwallaia
09-04-2008, 04:52 PM
Green will not get hurt this year. His money is tied to his playing every week. He's going to run "softer" than anybody you've ever seen and average 2 yards a carry but he's not going to get hurt. No way he's going to risk those $200,000 bonuses just to gain the extra 3 yards we need for the first down.

I don't like the way you think. :(

kiwitexansfan
09-04-2008, 04:54 PM
It will be a handoff to Green up behind Pitts, for a yard or two, just to get Green into the game again after being out for a while.

Ahman Green, two yards and a cloud of bandages.

DBCooper
09-04-2008, 05:01 PM
Green will take it to the house every time he touches the ball.

Which house is the question.

whiskeyrbl
09-04-2008, 05:36 PM
After a 65 yard return by Davis to the Pittsburgh 27 yard line, Schaub pitches right to Green who steps and throws a strike to AJ for a TD.

Texan_Bill
09-04-2008, 05:59 PM
Green will not get hurt this year. His money is tied to his playing every week. He's going to run "softer" than anybody you've ever seen and average 2 yards a carry but he's not going to get hurt. No way he's going to risk those $200,000 bonuses just to gain the extra 3 yards we need for the first down.

Ya know, that actually crossed my mind whenever he re-structured his deal... [insert Bob Bummer smiley]

Nawzer
09-04-2008, 06:03 PM
Matt Schaub throws a 80 yard touchdown strike to Andre Johnson to open up the game. On a side note, the unfortunate corner responsible for covering AJ on that play will retire from the NFL after that play and it will continue to haunt him for the rest of his natural life.

markn
09-04-2008, 07:43 PM
Green will not get hurt this year. His money is tied to his playing every week. He's going to run "softer" than anybody you've ever seen and average 2 yards a carry but he's not going to get hurt. No way he's going to risk those $200,000 bonuses just to gain the extra 3 yards we need for the first down.

Crossed my mind too. They should have restructured his contract so he gets paid per yard.

cuppacoffee
09-04-2008, 07:45 PM
Play action fake to Green, Schaub hits a wide open Jacoby steaking down the sideline..:throwball:

Now things get fuzzy. Does JJ catch it or drop it? :play:

Your guess is as good as mine.

JJ catches it and the team gets fired up and wins the game.:gotexans1

JJ drops it and the team goes into a deep funk and folds up like a lawn chair..:thud:

Thats my guess and I'm sticking to it.

Ohh..and Travis gets two sacks.


:coffee:

ObsiWan
09-04-2008, 08:03 PM
We come out in a single back set. Weakside toss to Green. Harrison penetrates so quickly that he's able to disrupt the toss. Ball hits the ground and is scooped up by Polomalu and returned for a TD.

Green hurts his knee while falling down.

Gibbs is so furious that his head explodes and disappears into a fine red mist.

M. Night Shaymalan ....is that you?

....maybe Stephen King...?

ObsiWan
09-04-2008, 08:05 PM
Green will not get hurt this year. His money is tied to his playing every week. He's going to run "softer" than anybody you've ever seen and average 2 yards a carry but he's not going to get hurt. No way he's going to risk those $200,000 bonuses just to gain the extra 3 yards we need for the first down.

even Shaun Alexander?

ObsiWan
09-04-2008, 08:17 PM
After a 65 yard return by Davis to the Pittsburgh 27 yard line, Schaub pitches right to Green who steps and throws a strike to AJ for a TD.

Now that would be something to see!
:kingkong:

TEXANRED
09-04-2008, 08:18 PM
Set scenario of where Texans will be on field and what is your call for first play. Mine would be fake a hand off to Slaton between LT & LG, Schaub bootlegs to right and fakes a reverse to Jacoby Jones and then he delivers a pass to Walters as AJ and Davis pull DBs deep. Ok, tear it apart.

I want to see a very aggressive plan of attack against Steelers. I do not think we can win by "hoping to hang on to ball" and grind it out. We need quick surgical strikes through the air and work the TEs Breuner and OD with some plays to slot. I also believe our kicker will be a huge factor.

Hand off to green for a run to the LT side. Green breaks out for a four yard run and pulls his right hamstring.

For the rest of the season we here he is close and its day to day but he's real close.

TEXANRED
09-04-2008, 08:21 PM
Green will take it to the house every time he touches the ball.

Which house is the question.

The only thing Green is taking to the house this year is his pay check.

YellerLotYeller
09-04-2008, 08:25 PM
Slant right to Jacoby. Polamalu lights him up so hard his helmet rolls to the sideline but.......he hangs onto the ball for 9 yards and gets up celebrating like he just won the lottery.

Maddict5
09-04-2008, 08:41 PM
Green will not get hurt this year. His money is tied to his playing every week. He's going to run "softer" than anybody you've ever seen and average 2 yards a carry but he's not going to get hurt. No way he's going to risk those $200,000 bonuses just to gain the extra 3 yards we need for the first down.


you're a real cynic.. i suppose you have nothing to backup this claim that ahman is a money-grabbing mercenary :foottap:

beerlover
09-04-2008, 08:48 PM
reverse to Andre Davis

Ax2
09-04-2008, 08:51 PM
off tackle right with Slaton, but realistically it will be a run with Green

False Start
09-04-2008, 09:14 PM
A slant route over the middle to OD for an 11 yard gain! I guess? :thinking:

kiwitexansfan
09-04-2008, 09:20 PM
The only thing Green is taking to the house this year is his pay check.

A greatly reduced pay check though!!

Kudos to Mr Smith.

cuppacoffee
09-04-2008, 09:26 PM
A slant route over the middle to OD for an 11 yard gain! I guess? :thinking:

Not a false start on #69?

Just had to ask.:D


:coffee:

False Start
09-04-2008, 09:28 PM
Not a false start on #69?

Just had to ask.:D


:coffee:

That would suck, but be kind of funny at the same time. I would have flashbacks. :heh:

buddyboy
09-05-2008, 01:07 AM
Dump off pass to Slaton or Green for less than 4 yards.

Malloy
09-05-2008, 03:39 AM
Matt Schaub throws a 80 yard touchdown strike to Andre Johnson to open up the game. On a side note, the unfortunate corner responsible for covering AJ on that play will retire from the NFL after that play and it will continue to haunt him for the rest of his natural life.

Laces out - kinda trauma ? :)

Arh, a Fellow NIN fan, sweet!

gtexan02
09-05-2008, 09:44 AM
I hope we see a conservative short pass, so we get Schaub and AJ going. I don't want to see a bomb or a fancy play that could end up with us going backwards. Lets get some of the kinks out before we go crazy

ObsiWan
09-05-2008, 10:37 AM
I hope we see a conservative short pass, so we get Schaub and AJ going. I don't want to see a bomb or a fancy play that could end up with us going backwards. Lets get some of the kinks out before we go crazy

dink and dunk again?
that guy doesn't work here any more.
:D

False Start
09-05-2008, 11:47 AM
dink and dunk again?
that guy doesn't work here any more.
:D

Yeah, no more David Carr like 5 yard bombs. :gun::cool:

Texan Asylum
09-05-2008, 11:51 AM
Nice work! Must spread rep before....yada yada yada.

Got him Brandon. :texflag:

drewmar74
09-05-2008, 12:06 PM
We come out in a two TE I formation. Leach and Green in the backfield. Ball is hiked and the line flows left. Beautiful play action by our QB. Protection is good as Pitt tries to determine if this is run or pass.....

one one-thousand

QB starts his reads

two one-thousand

QB locks onto one receiver

three one-thousand

protection falling apart

four one-thousand

QB falls down and assumes fetal position

Thorn
09-05-2008, 12:10 PM
We come out in a two TE I formation. Leach and Green in the backfield. Ball is hiked and the line flows left. Beautiful play action by our QB. Protection is good as Pitt tries to determine if this is run or pass.....

one one-thousand

QB starts his reads

two one-thousand

QB locks onto one receiver

three one-thousand

protection falling apart

four one-thousand

QB falls down and assumes fetal position

LOL

I like this version better.

Hand off to Green who stumbles, hurts his hammy again, and then fumbles. The fumble is picked up by Leach who runs for ten yards then laterals to AJ who runs it in for a TD! We go on to win 97 to 3. Afterwards the Steelers move to LA.

ObsiWan
09-05-2008, 12:13 PM
We come out in a two TE I formation. Leach and Green in the backfield. Ball is hiked and the line flows left. Beautiful play action by our QB. Protection is good as Pitt tries to determine if this is run or pass.....

one one-thousand

QB starts his reads

two one-thousand

QB locks onto one receiver

three one-thousand

protection falling apart

four one-thousand

QB falls down and assumes fetal position

I keep tellin' y'all, that guy no longer works here.

drewmar74
09-05-2008, 12:23 PM
LOL

I like this version better.

Hand off to Green who stumbles, hurts his hammy again, and then fumbles. The fumble is picked up by Leach who runs for ten yards then laterals to AJ who runs it in for a TD! We go on to win 97 to 3. Afterwards the Steelers move to LA.

I like your final score.

How about this:

We trot out in a single back set and run at the left side of the line. As Green jump cuts to hit a crease, his knee explodes and he falls into the back of Duane Brown's legs. Brown has to be taken off the field on a cart and ends up being released by the Texans two years later after his injuries fail to heal.

Thorn
09-05-2008, 12:29 PM
I like your final score.

How about this:

We trot out in a single back set and run at the left side of the line. As Green jump cuts to hit a crease, his knee explodes and he falls into the back of Duane Brown's legs. Brown has to be taken off the field on a cart and ends up being released by the Texans two years later after his injuries fail to heal.

Q. If Green and Dayne go to a buffet togeather, how much do they eat?

A. No one knows, the buffet had to close down afterwards.

Big Lou
09-05-2008, 04:52 PM
Double Z Slant Crack Back, Zoom Jet Right, X Hatchet, Jumbo Special 32 Firefly, Hot 27 Magnum, on 2, ready.... break!

TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!

cuppacoffee
09-06-2008, 11:49 AM
Double Z Slant Crack Back, Zoom Jet Right, X Hatchet, Jumbo Special 32 Firefly, Hot 27 Magnum, on 2, ready.... break!

TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!


Must be related to Pendry....

The Double Z Slant can't work when running the Hot 27 Magnum. The Magnum play calls for two tight ends. I guess it could work if you expect Bruener to be able to run the end around, fake the handoff to Daniels coming around from the other side, then complete the fly pattern to AJ, but it sounds like a real clusterfudge waiting to happen if you ask me. :shades:

Which you didn't.

I've been watching too many NFL network commercials..:mcnugget:

gary
09-06-2008, 12:22 PM
A long pass down the middle of the field to AJ for a 40 or 50 gain right after AD brings the football out to the 30 yard line on the kickoff return.

Txn_in_Oki
09-06-2008, 12:33 PM
THe first offensive play will be when a fat, half-naked, out of shape fan decides to paint Steelers on his jello-like gut.

threetoedpete
09-06-2008, 12:47 PM
run to the left side of the line for 7 yards and Green is not injured.

From your fingers to God's brain. I'll hop on Old Miss' band wagon, Pass on first down set up a second and short. It's what they do best. Throw the ball. If Kubes' aggie neck isn't bowed up...they pick the play that extenuates our positives and their negatives best.

threetoedpete
09-06-2008, 12:50 PM
A long pass down the middle of the field to AJ for a 40 or 50 gain right after AD brings the football out to the 30 yard line on the kickoff return.

That'll be a Sunday for sure.

That's the way they should open every half of every game. Will they do it? nut uh.

Brando
09-06-2008, 12:54 PM
THe first offensive play will be when a fat, half-naked, out of shape fan decides to paint Steelers on his jello-like gut.

He's practicing today......
http://www.dawgpoundmike.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/webassets/stillerfans2.jpg

gary
09-06-2008, 12:56 PM
They just may.